Santo Domingo

<<That is like that paradox in particle physics where doing the observation in itself affects the result.

Who woulda thunk this came from a monger site? Love it!

Truly there is very little difference between my non and semi chicas. I pay for their travel and buy something they want as a gift. I usually spend at least two days with them and have sex about 4 times a day when possible jajaaaj. The gift vary from a refurbished phone or a cheap tablet. Once they have their dream gift they try to drain every drop a leche in your body. The gift is never more then 150 dollars and I always give some traveling money 80 to 100 dollars, However I spend 2 or three days wifed up and getting GFE all day longl I have never not gotten my monies worth.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451; 1496109]Santo Domingo?

What do you pay to semi pros and non pros for overnight?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1496403]Truly there is very little difference between my non and semi chicas. I pay for their travel and buy something they want as a gift. I usually spend at least two days with them and have sex about 4 times a day when possible jajaaaj. The gift vary from a refurbished phone or a cheap tablet. Once they have their dream gift they try to drain every drop a leche in your body. The gift is never more then 150 dollars and I always give some traveling money 80 to 100 dollars, However I spend 2 or three days wifed up and getting GFE all day longl I have never not gotten my monies worth.[/QUOTE]You never had a girl pull the "Sick Mother in the Hospital" trick after you gave her the present? I am surprised that non and semi chicas don't try to pull the same scam that the pros do. Or do you wait until the end of the 2 days to give her the present to make sure she doesn't run on you?

I cultivate my girls really well. We skype and talk every now and then so I show they go all out. Plus they are living a dream hot water great food and dancing all night. They are tryig to get more days not less. I go all out to have fun. No Igive them their gifts up front but sprinkle inexpensive surprises every now and then. These girls are proven champa who ring all my bells

QUOTE=Bravo; 1496686]You never had a girl pull the "Sick Mother in the Hospital" trick after you gave her the present? I am surprised that non and semi chicas don't try to pull the same scam that the pros do. Or do you wait until the end of the 2 days to give her the present to make sure she doesn't run on you?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1496306]That is like that paradox in particle physics where doing the observation in itself affects the result. If you pay a non-pro she is no longer a non-pro. Does the changeover happen when cash changes hands? Or when the prospect of accepting money first enters her mind?

Send US15 by PayPal for my book "The Metaphysics of Mongering".[/QUOTE]I think Heisenberg discovered this principle of mongering in the 1930's. You can either know the price or whether she is a nonpro, but never both at the same time.

[QUOTE=Marc Anthony;1496765]I think Heisenberg discovered this principle of mongering in the 1930's. You can either know the price or whether she is a nonpro, but never both at the same time.[/QUOTE]. Good one!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1496686]You never had a girl pull the "Sick Mother in the Hospital" trick after you gave her the present? I am surprised that non and semi chicas don't try to pull the same scam that the pros do. Or do you wait until the end of the 2 days to give her the present to make sure she doesn't run on you?[/QUOTE]I hate to admit this here, but I have made arrangements with non / semi pros to the point of sending small amounts of money by Western Union (for example to buy a cheap cell phone so we could talk) and / or giving them cash intended as the present for an entire weekend on day 1, only to have them disappear a few hours later. Yes, I have been scammed. And yes, it has been more than once (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).

Money up front is often part of the gamble. Many guys refuse to give a chica money / support in all of its forms. Believe me, I am always reluctant to do so, even though I give in on occasion. Most of the girls actually have appreciated the up front money. These ladies have not only stayed on, but paid me back many times over in passionate sex. Overall, I really haven't lost much money, and I really have had some incredible sexual experiences that I probably would not have had if I hadn't taken a risk. I am certain I will be scammed again, but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1497678]I hate to admit this here, but I have made arrangements with non / semi pros to the point of sending small amounts of money by Western Union (for example to buy a cheap cell phone so we could talk) and / or giving them cash intended as the present for an entire weekend on day 1, only to have them disappear a few hours later. Yes, I have been scammed. And yes, it has been more than once (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).

Money up front is often part of the gamble. Many guys refuse to give a chica money / support in all of its forms. Believe me, I am always reluctant to do so, even though I give in on occasion. Most of the girls actually have appreciated the up front money. These ladies have not only stayed on, but paid me back many times over in passionate sex. Overall, I really haven't lost much money, and I really have had some incredible sexual experiences that I probably would not have had if I hadn't taken a risk. I am certain I will be scammed again, but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.[/QUOTE]Easy going out look on the situation. We all are different. Doing what works for you is what it is all about

You can refuse and send a message at the same time. Tell them "no because I have to buy medicine for a sick relative and I need to pay for Spanish lessons so I can get a job and support you when I move to the Dominican Republic." Most girls will recognize the stories.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1497678]I hate to admit this here, but I have made arrangements with non / semi pros to the point of sending small amounts of money by Western Union (for example to buy a cheap cell phone so we could talk) and / or giving them cash intended as the present for an entire weekend on day 1, only to have them disappear a few hours later. Yes, I have been scammed. And yes, it has been more than once (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).

Money up front is often part of the gamble. Many guys refuse to give a chica money / support in all of its forms. Believe me, I am always reluctant to do so, even though I give in on occasion. Most of the girls actually have appreciated the up front money. These ladies have not only stayed on, but paid me back many times over in passionate sex. Overall, I really haven't lost much money, and I really have had some incredible sexual experiences that I probably would not have had if I hadn't taken a risk. I am certain I will be scammed again, but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Forest;1497678]. (I would guess I have averaged being scammed about once a year over the last 12 years).but I make every effort to limit my losses in the certainty that a fair percentage of the chicas who ask for money up front will prove to be gems.[/QUOTE]

If you have been scammed once a year you are doing well. When I travel to DR I never ask myself if I will be scammed or not, but rather how I will be scammed and by how much. I do not live in DR but do speak the language and have been going there for over a decade. There has not been a trip where someone, somewhere, did not try to scam me. Anywhere from overcharging me for a drink in a restaurant, to miscalculating the tax (always in the restaurant's favor) , to a taxi asking for a ludicrous amount to take me from point A to point B, to immigration at Santo Domingo asking for $10 to let me through (this happened to several tourists when they used to have the overstay tax) ; to the hotel asking me to pay the tab on a seafood dinner that I never ordered (had to tell the manager at El Candil, in Boca Chica [when it was open], that I never had a tab but always paid in cash [the secretary Christopher ordered it for himself, used my name, but did not realize that I never opened a tab! He just saw me sitting in the restaurant every day and assumed that I had one open.]) ; to not being given back the proper change, to making sure I receive the proper exchange rate when I go to a cashier. I can go on and on. With my language skills I can lessen, but not eliminate, the scams. Many mongers that I encounter simply do not see the scams since everything costs so much less in the DR as compared to the States.

I remember a chica on the beach trying to get me to buy a drink. When she quoted me the price I did a double take. She added that the price is what I would pay in New York, for the same drink. I had to remind her that we were not in New York. Usually, if it is not too much money I let them get away with it (do not want any trouble with the Politur, or with other locals, since I have seen occasions where situations have really gotten out of hand to the point that it would have just been simpler to pay up. This reminds me of my friend, who was by himself driving when he was stopped by the Politur. He could not understand why the officer was so angry when they gave him a ticket for not having his seat belt on. I explained that the officer wanted a bribe. A 500 DOP would have been more than enough. My friend did not know so he ended up with a ticket for 2500 DOP, that he had to go to the bank to have paid off). When I see a scam I never let it happen to me twice and I do my best to avoid certain scenarios.

Chicas scamming me are not my only concern and the number of scams pulled are only limited by the scammers' imagination. Unless someone lives in DR, and speaks the language (or knows someone on the island) it is hard not to be overcharged for something. There are good people in the DR and they are obviously not all scammers. Scamming is common in many parts of the world but I am guessing that in Developing countries this type of behavior is more prevalent. Even with all this the DR is still the cheapest bang for the buck.

[QUOTE=Boriman;1498041]When I travel to DR I never ask myself if I will be scammed or not, but rather how I will be scammed and by how much. I do not live in DR but do speak the language and have been going there for over a decade. There has not been a trip where someone, somewhere, did not try to scam me. etc.[/QUOTE]When I referred to scammers, I was only referring to chicas who ask for money in advance of the performance. Its absolutely true that cab drivers (definitely the worst in Sto Domingo) , bar tenders, waiters, even medical doctors constantly try to add a propina to my bills in the DR. Incidentally, even when they are scamming, semi pros and non pros are ALWAYS a lot cheaper than the girls in the casas, but they take more effort, and are much more complicated to schedule.

Which brings me to the real point of this post (my last post was completely tangential due to a little too much time with my friend Johnny Walker Black). I am on my way back to Sto Domingo for four days of work and fun. In the past, I have always gone to the casas once or twice a day when things are slow, generally between my tagged. Com and hi5. Com girls. These girls are easy to line up, of course, but they are always late and they often do not show up. I have a novia there as well (unbelievable body and willing to do anything I ask as long as I help her out with her education). As she works in a papeleria until 10 pm, I can generally get in three or four girls a day (ie, the novia, a semi / non pro and one or two visits to a casa daily). Thanks to the miracle of viagra, my approach has worked like a charm for the last 8 years, but with the casas apparently under attack by the moral establishment, I am worried. I would hate to have to totally depend on my charms with the non / semi pros to get laid in Sto Domingo. I am simply not that charming.

Can someone ON THE GROUND tell me which casas, if any, are still open? My favorite casa, by the way, is Casa Teresa.

Arrived here after two nights in BC, see that area for my report. I was hoping to do more, but got a little tired and in the event decided to take it easy. I stayed in a hotel at the foot of Conde, and was expecting to find good hunting on the street scene. However, that did not work out as expected.

During the day, there are some street walkers, but fairly few and far between. In the evening there is a window, from about dark until maybe 11 PM when there are a few more women working the street. But I found there to be way more men than women, which is not a recipe for success.

So after watching from a park bench for several hours, I was ready to throw in the towel. All of the women were, frankly, not going to get close to my body, sorry. Either they were too young, too dirty, too ugly, too fat, or a hideous combination for my taste. When from out of no where a very short young woman, with appearance of a European sits next to me and starts a conversation. She starts talking about local real estate, which is exactly the best topic for me, and then we segue into a general conversation about her living in Holland and Europe for ten years. So this goes on for about a half hour, and she has aroused my curiosity. What in the world is this fairly sophisticated person doing talking to a stranger?

So I ask her if she wants to get a drink and a snack because I was wanting same anyway. Of course she agrees! We head down the road to one of the tonier bars for a snack and some Sangria. Conversation is really going well, and we are laughing, etc. Enjoying a chance encounter. Well, I'm a little suspicious by now, aren't you? Why would this young woman less than half my age by so enchanted by an old man like me?

So I test her about her motives, and she professes totally to be on the prowl, not a professional. Okay, I'm game. Let's head to my room. Yes sir, she wants to go. So there we head.

We go through the hotel security drill, and start to take off the clothes. Tada! It comes."Papi, I am broke, I have to pay my utilities, etc. Can you help me out with 5,000 Pesos?" This is what I was waiting for, and so I don't get mad, but I pretend to be mad."What, you have been lying to me all this time? I would never have asked you up here for 2,000 Pesos, much less 5,000. You have to leave now."

She goes down on the floor, half naked, begging me not to throw her out. She is crying, but not screaming. She begs for forgiveness. I don't need to give her anything, just don't throw her out. Etc. Etc. It was a great soap opera. After about 15 minutes of this I tell her okay, she can stay for awhile, and I will give her 2,000 Pesos if I am happy with her later. She agrees she was a bad girl and tries to make it up. Fun ensues. But I know I am in danger, and never let my guard down for a second with this woman.

She wants to stay overnight, but that is never going to happen. So after some wild times, I gently let her know it's time for her to go. She wants the money, so she agrees to leave quietly. We dress, I am making double sure nothing has been stolen from the room that I will have to pay for later, etc. She begs me to take her numbers, so I do. Then I pay her and take her to the street. No tip, no present for this woman. But strangely enough, a satisfying experience.

We go through the hotel security drill, and start to take off the clothes. Tada! It comes."Papi, I am broke, I have to pay my utilities, etc. Can you help me out with 5, 000 Pesos?" This is what I was waiting for, and so I don't get mad, but I pretend to be mad."What, you have been lying to me all this time? I would never have asked you up here for 2, 000 Pesos, much less 5, 000. You have to leave now."

She goes down on the floor, half naked, begging me not to throw her out. She is crying, but not screaming. She begs for forgiveness. I don't need to give her anything, just don't throw her out. Etc. Etc. It was a great soap opera. After about 15 minutes of this I tell her okay, she can stay for awhile, and I will give her 2, 000 Pesos if I am happy with her later. She agrees she was a bad girl and tries to make it up. Fun ensues. But I know I am in danger, and never let my guard down for a second with this woman.

She wants to stay overnight, but that is never going to happen. So after some wild times, I gently let her know it's time for her to go. She wants the money, so she agrees to leave quietly. We dress, I am making double sure nothing has been stolen from the room that I will have to pay for later, etc. She begs me to take her numbers, so I do. Then I pay her and take her to the street. No tip, no present for this woman. But strangely enough, a satisfying experience.[/QUOTE]Damn good read on both your parts. She read you and fed you the great conversation worth commanding your attention! 5000 pesos is a slap in the face and insulting but she in smart. Too guile. So you take control, drop her price, (she know that would happen) fuck her, enjoy sex, now walk her ass to the door! No need to sleep with one I open. SD chicas think they are the smartest! Good Job

[QUOTE=El Lobo Solo;1498235]Arrived here after two nights in BC. . . .[/QUOTE]Can you tell me which casas are still open? I am guessing that the places near the zona colonial are the focus of the current shutdown, but I cannot find any real information here or on the internet.

Real time information from someone who is actually in the capitol would be very helpful to those of us planning a trip to the DR! Señor Lobo Solo, please inform us!

[QUOTE=Forest; 1498452]Can you tell me which casas are still open? I am guessing that the places near the zona colonial are the focus of the current shutdown, but I cannot find any real information here or on the internet.

Real time information from someone who is actually in the capitol would be very helpful to those of us planning a trip to the DR! Señor Lobo Solo, please inform us![/QUOTE]They are all open except for venecia night club. 305, skyhouse, casa theresa are all open. You need to get out and walk around and take a look for yourself.