Jakarta

I concur with Hilo. Wow there are some argumentative people on here. I'd thought there would be better things to do in Jakarta than bicker online. Maybe you are doing it in traffic in yet another jam to fill in time and take out your anguish. Myself, I just get a feeling like a kid heading off to the candy shop, but each to their own.

For sure, some things have deteriorated in recent years, with the exception of price which has massively escalated! Funnily enough, only in areas that use English as the main language. Perhaps it is because of the argumentative types dropping by now. Local areas, pricing has seemingly barely moved over a long time. Regardless, I always seem to find a happy medium between price, service, inflation and Forex effects when there. It's just not like shooting fish in a barrel anymore. They've just upped the difficulty to a small pond.

It is easy on here to pick the residents. Strangely they seem to be the ones being argued at. And never around posting on a Friday or Saturday night Jakarta time. Why, it's like you guys have something better to do. What on earth could it be?

BTW my experience in waiting for bags in Jakarta is skewed heavily towards Hihister's in recent years. If you see them on the carousel within half an hour of touchdown, you're doing extremely well.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1803026]One of the great pleasures of this board in previous years was the great wealth of information that was freely traded back and forth in an easygoing, frequently very humourous manner.[/QUOTE]The long time members such as yourself are a great asset to the board and why it's been so excellent for so many years. I'm not sure Rev ever made it to this site, but his site was great fun for a while and I think more conducive to humorous banter. Do you know whatever happened to him?

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;1803120]It is easy on here to pick the residents. Strangely they seem to be the ones being argued at. And never around posting on a Friday or Saturday night Jakarta time. Why, it's like you guys have something better to do. What on earth could it be?[/QUOTE]To the extent you are referring to the recent exchange between me and Hihister, who apparently is a resident, I take offense at your comment. My initial post #10473 was not argumentative at all, it was meant to be helpful and indeed I got a private mail thanking me for it. If someone wanted to respectfully disagree with what I stated in that post, that would have been fine and could have generated a reasonable discussion. Or people could have just taken my post as one's opinion. But that is not how things proceeded although given Hihisster and I made peace in the end, I am not so comfortable with this thing continuing and question why you felt compelled to raise the issue in the manner you did.

As to Hilo77's comment about how things have gotten rather bad in the Jakarta forum I could not agree more although with one caveat. It seems to me Hilo77 is idealizing things from the past a bit. The recent flame war that had to be removed by Jackson was a virtual repeat of one that occurred in early to mid-October 2014 involving most of the same people and content (although I was a bystander then). And from what I can glean that one was a repeat of earlier exchanges of ridiculous flames by many of the same people.

Perhaps Hilo77 is correct that if this sort of thing doesn't stop, the Jakarta board should just be shut down. It's not worth contributing in this environment.

[QUOTE=LuigiScore;1803055]
Whats a Stunner? Everybody taste is different, but I paid 1 juta for a stunner and had a good ST (Bats) and paid between 500-700 plus taxi in Top Gun for slender young and sometimes very near stunner. Keep in mind I rather go home with a good looking lady with a nice attitude, than a ***** stunner that will not give you a good time. If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.
[/QUOTE]This is a straw man argument. No one wants to go home with a good looking girl with a bad attitude. My goal is to find really good looking girls (stunners) with good attitudes that want to show me a good time. To that end I have found many smoking hot young girls at Malioboro and CJ's, my two favorite places in Jakarta, that provide great service and give me what I want. Of course I would also prefer not to spend more than I have to in order to achieve my stated goals. LOL. The FL's at CJ's were asking 2,000,000 for LT when I was last there in March. Not cheap by any means, but there is a large selection of very good looking girls to choose from especially on Wednesday (ladies night) through Saturday night. Check it out.

[QUOTE=LuigiScore;1803055]Yes, I got laid!

If you don't mind me asking, what do you usually pay? How much are the girls at Mulia for ST / LT.

Cheers Lad![/QUOTE]Good on you mate. IMHO the prices around the popular clubs are in the range of 2 million IDR. Classic is the only place I know where prices are still in the 1 million (or less) range. I have never paid less than 2 million at CJ.

Cheers to you too, have fun!

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;1803120][B]price [/B]which has massively [B]escalated[/B]! Funnily enough, only in areas that use English as the main language. Perhaps it is because of the argumentative types dropping by now[/QUOTE]The only "English" places I am aware of where price has escalated in the last year are King's Cross and CJ's.

If you've been to King's Cross, you'll note the clientele is mostly local. The price hike may be due to other factors (they are owned by Malioboro group).

The prices at CJ's are set by the ladies themselves, and thus generally obey the market laws of supply and demand. A couple years ago you could be assured a companion from CJ's for no more than 1 Million overnight. Now that figure has raised to 2 Million because of the "demand" (I. E. Pooner overpayment). We have only ourselves to blame for inflating this amount as it seems many guys are happy to pay 2 Million. In my 3 times at CJ's, I've never paid over 1 Million, and have only seen perhaps 2-3 ladies I consider worthy of the 2 Million standard asking price.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1803171]This is a straw man argument. No one wants to go home with a good looking girl with a bad attitude. My goal is to find really good looking girls (stunners) with good attitudes that want to show me a good time. To that end I have found many smoking hot young girls at Malioboro and CJ's, my two favorite places in Jakarta, that provide great service and give me what I want. Of course I would also prefer not to spend more than I have to in order to achieve my stated goals. LOL. The FL's at CJ's were asking 2,000,000 for LT when I was last there in March. Not cheap by any means, but there is a large selection of very good looking girls to choose from especially on Wednesday (ladies night) through Saturday night. Check it out.[/QUOTE]Not cheap, but compared to an all nighter in USA, not bad. At least it's not ST like a couple girls wanted at bats. All that matters that you had a good time.

I will check it out Thanks!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;1803247]Good on you mate. IMHO the prices around the popular clubs are in the range of 2 million IDR. Classic is the only place I know where prices are still in the 1 million (or less) range. I have never paid less than 2 million at CJ.

Cheers to you too, have fun![/QUOTE]Cheap sex can be found in brothels pretty much all over Jakarta. There are hundreds of places with prices similar to Classic that are brothels. Classic just happens to be the biggest and nicest place like that where they actually have a very cheap price and very nice clean rooms. I think Classic is still only 350 k, so it's far less than 1 million. Hotel Travel is another huge place with over 100 girls at 350 k per hour, but the rooms are not as nice as the ones at Classic. There are so many other smaller places around town that offer the exact same sex in a less nice room for the same price (or even less).

The price difference comes into play when you are dealing with "free lancers". Especially free lancers who speak some English. You can get free lancers from the streets just driving around at night if you want. I think they are 500 k, but I've never taken one. You can still get a free lancer from Blok M for 500 k, but the standard price is 700 k there. 1 million in Blok M is a stretch, but I've paid it for a girl that really stood out and there wasn't any girl even close to that one that night. The standard price at CJs and BATS (all free lancers) is 1. 5 million. You can get them for 1 million if they aren't a high demand girl or at closing time. I've never paid any girl from those places 2 million rupiah, but I have stood near guys and overheard their negotiations where they agree to 2 or even 3 million, so I know it is happening. I did see a girl in CJs recently who stood out like a sore thumb. In all my years of going to those bars, she is the best I have ever seen. She was as close to a 10 as anything I have ever seen in Jakarta, but I only saw her that one night. She was already accompanied for the night, so I am not sure how much the guy was paying her, but I would have gladly given that one particular stunner 2 million. The average CJs or BATS girl over 30 years old is not worth more than 1 million. There are normally from 3 to 7 young hotties that will be there any given night I would consider worth 1. 5. And that one chick was worth 2 million. Haha. (I would not be surprised if that guy was paying her more than that.).

That being said, if I negotiate 1 million and the girl absolutely rocks my world, I will be inclined to give her more as a tip. I gave a girl a 1. 5 million rupiah tip once because she was the most awesome thing in bed I'd ever taken home. She was very good looking and up for anything including dressing up in sexy outfits, photos, videos, anal, whatever, and she could give a blowjob and rim job that was amazing. We shagged the entire night. I still look back on that night fondly. I just hate being locked into giving them more than that due to initial negotiations then they are a star fish in bed. Unfortunately that girl was taken off the market very quickly and married some Korean guy.

By the way, I went to King's Cross last night. They seem to have dropped their prices again. (either that, or they were just lying to me the last time) The last time I was there, they told me all girls were 1 million rupiah. This time, they told me all the girls are 600 k. I paid 600 k for the same girl I wanted last time who wanted a million so I had refused. Stunning 19 year old with huge tits. Well worth 600 k for an hour with her. Rooms are nice there as well. There was one sexy dancer there with such a fantastically nice pussy. I could have stared at that all week.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1803145]. I'm not sure Rev ever made it to this site, but his site was great fun for a while and I think more conducive to humorous banter. Do you know whatever happened to him?[/QUOTE]He always tried to ensure his blog was not viewed as simply a sex information site and as such regular posters like you, me and Menteng sometimes had to adopt a more convivial, less of a "How much? How long" approach, which often led to the more easygoing, witty attitude that was displayed here, when knowledgeable posters like Bulai69 (now we're showing our age) also gave very considerate and helpful advice.

The last I heard of him he had come into a bit of money and had retired into a life of comfort and respectability and left behind his slightly indiscreet and disreputable past.

Anyway now that there doesn't seem to be anything other than endless backbiting going on here, it's time for the experienced posters to walk away and leave the place to the sex tourists to argue over.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1803413]

By the way, I went to King's Cross last night. They seem to have dropped their prices again. (either that, or they were just lying to me the last time) The last time I was there, they told me all girls were 1 million rupiah. This time, they told me all the girls are 600 k. I paid 600 k for the same girl I wanted last time who wanted a million so I had refused. Stunning 19 year old with huge tits. Well worth 600 k for an hour with her. Rooms are nice there as well. There was one sexy dancer there with such a fantastically nice pussy. I could have stared at that all week.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Grand Whiz in Kelapa Gading a few times, and just looked up Kings Cross on a map, seems walking distance. I've always brought in girls from dating sites when I stay up there (the girls always seem to live in Bekasi for some reason) but next time I think I will wander down the street and pay a visit to Kings Cross.

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Your inbox was full again, so now via the forum. I' m in Jakarta now. If you're here in the next two weeks, I'd like to meet for a drink.

Ko.

Tried out some new talent at Maribaya and D. Also re-aquainted Mellisa. Pictures tomorrow. Going out now.

Ko.

The internet giveth, and the internet taketh away.

Had an 18 year old virgin lined up to come over and be deflowered. She claimed to be a virgin, she lives a long way from Jakarta but was in town, my BS detector usually sniffs them out and I think she is the real deal. However, like her sisters, absolutely hopeless at keeping schedules. I had a several hour window of opportunity, and she suddenly went silent on the instant messenger we were using. A couple of hours went by, I called in plan be, and of course then she popped up late ready to meet. Sorry darling, too late, my dick is already tickling some tonsils. For those of you into rating scales, from the pics and cam we have done, I would only rate it about a 6/10, but I was / am willing to take one for the team in order to deflower her, so let's see what the next few days can deliver. She does not want any money, seems to come from a wealthy family.

Then heading back to the hotel today, get a hit on Badoo. Being able to see how far away you are from the girl is gold given the Jakarta traffic. This one is in it for the money. Claims to be 19, about to turn 20. Just got a message that she is in the lobby of my hotel, got to run fellas.

Slightly irritating. I'm in the Century Park hotel in Jakarta which has cabled internet with good speed in the rooms. Unfortunately this faithfully blocks sites like ISG and Hookers.nl. However, there is also wifi in the entire hotel which does not block anything. Indonesian logic or the hotel being client friendly?

I am thus able to report. See Picture thread and Jakarta thread. Happy reading.

Regards,

Ko.

So the 'hit in Badoo' I mentioned yesterday turned out to be an interesting story. Went down to the lobby to pick her up and surprise, surprise it is a different girl to the pictures. I did not want to cause a scene in the lobby so I brought her up to my room and was going to tell her she could go home empty handed for running a bait and switch on me. However once in the room, her body language and demeanor screamed newbie or non-professional.

So I started asking her a few questions, and it became clear that she was not the person I was messaging, she was quite honest with her answers, but she was unaware of the conversation I had had with "her boss". She claimed that she worked in marketing for a big name bank, but I don't believe that at all. Based on how shy she was I decided to take the plunge and go ahead with the booking. Well she turned out to be a tiger in the sack and seemed to really get into it. I've come across lots of fake moaning and pretending to be into it, and she was the opposite of that.

We had a really good shag and then she gave me a great massage. Was two hours well spent given the bait and switch at the beginning, and I might even repeat her. Got her number to cut out the middle man who she told me earns 30%. Made me wonder if it was actually one of those vitality massage services Smoothy was talking about.