General Reports

[QUOTE=IAmKaran;1783395]Hi,

I have gone through the forum posts and HK does look like a promising place. The only problem is that I will be there only for a day and that too starting a Monday -means I will miss the Sunday fun.

Given the less time, I am looking for an easy way out. Can someone let me know if there are reputed agencies that I can go with? I am looking for someone young and GFE. Are there sites where trusted independents advertise? Are BP and CL / locanto safe to go with?

Thanks a lot for the help.[/QUOTE]Look at Chantik's posts. She seems to be a professional escort, and knows lots. And if I were in your shoes, with only one day to play, I would take her out.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=CharlieShine;1782233]Unless you are dating them and in a mutually gratifying (gift giving) relationship you should give them money. Its as simple as that.[/QUOTE]I got to say that I don't agree with you. If you are in Angeles or Pattaya, and you pick up a girl in a bar. Dancer, GRO, cashier or janitor. Of course you pay. The girls came to those cities to be sex-workers and expect to be paid for doing that. If you make them work but don't pay, you are shoplifting. But that is not Hong Kong.

If you meet a girl online before you come to HK, she will let you know in clear terms if she expects to be paid. If it is the case, mostly you can see that in their profiles. I think this is a minority of girls you will meet online, but it happens to me from time-to-time.

If you are in LKF or Wanchai on a week night and meet a girl in a bar, there is a greater than 50/50 chance she is not working (except the street-level bars where they are all working). Pretty much any girl with her whits about her will let you know before leaving the bar that she wants to be paid; she does not want to waste her time either.

On a weekend the odds the girl you meet is working drops to about 10%, so many girls are just on their off-day. To be sure, some girls on the off days also want to earn. This is especially common with Indonesians in Neptune III, Players and Bar 109. But they too will tell you straight up "how much you pay".

So it pays to be a gentleman. Be nice to them. Give them a "BF-experience. " Bring gifts from home to surprise them: t-shirts, teddy bears, perfume? Give them nice dinners, buy treats. All these are good. But, in HK, paying a non-working girl reflects badly on you and can be insulting to her.

As Chantik says, there are times you want P4P. Maybe you are in a hurry. Maybe there is a particular girl you want and she is a pro. Maybe you want the confidence that it is a commercial transaction and she will leave quietly when done.

But the odds are that you will meet lots of non-working girls in HK, so treat them well.

Good summary, Brown Rail. "To be sure, some girls on the off days also want to earn. This is especially common with Indonesians in Neptune III, Players and Bar 109. But they too will tell you straight up 'how much you pay' ". This matches my (very limited) experience. Two years ago I met an Indo DH hottie in New Makati on a Sunday (yes, before all the mess last year). Good vibes on the dance floor and chatting over drinks. When I popped the question she was game but said "you understand I can't go for free". I offered 700 HKD for 3 hours, went to the Eden (recommend!) and had a top, top tier GFE. Five minutes in the room and she had already nearly sucked my tongue out of my mouth. In the downtime told me all about her "sir" (elderly, handicapped employer) but no sob story. All in all, a good time.

[QUOTE=UglyOne;1784461]Good summary, Brown Rail. "To be sure, some girls on the off days also want to earn. This is especially common with Indonesians in Neptune III, Players and Bar 109. But they too will tell you straight up 'how much you pay' ". This matches my (very limited) experience. Two years ago I met an Indo DH hottie in New Makati on a Sunday (yes, before all the mess last year). Good vibes on the dance floor and chatting over drinks. When I popped the question she was game but said "you understand I can't go for free". I offered 700 HKD for 3 hours, went to the Eden (recommend!) and had a top, top tier GFE. Five minutes in the room and she had already nearly sucked my tongue out of my mouth. In the downtime told me all about her "sir" (elderly, handicapped employer) but no sob story. All in all, a good time.[/QUOTE]Sounds great. Yes Makati varies a lot. On Saturday night and Sunday it is probably 50% not working 35% go either way and 15% pure working. They want to see a bar girl drink upfront. On these days the pure working girls must be a bit frustrated. But when the not working girls are slow to move and teasing, the workers can be quick to offer a solution to a now horny guy. The other days it is probably 50% working 25% either way. I get sad when I see the working girls who get really hard. They look so board and unhappy, then they see a prospect and begin the act. This is a minority though. Most seem really to enjoy the freedom their job provides.

HKD700 sounds like quite a good price. She sounds like one who is not a pro. Just in need of a "top up".

I have never been to Eden. I heard it is quite good. Did you stay there over night or short time? How was it?

[QUOTE=BrownRail;1784892] I have never been to Eden. I heard it is quite good. Did you stay there over night or short time? How was it? [/QUOTE]BrownRail,

I stayed only short time, recall there were 2-hour and 3-hour options. It is my only experience with a short time hotel, but having RTFF it seems to be on the nicer end of the spectrum. Very simple but clean, and at least a chair and also room to walk around the bed. I also like the idea of taking a short taxi ride. Waiting in line for the taxi is like waiting in line at Disneyland, holding an "E" ticket (yes, this shows my age) {translation for some. Rides with E tickets are (were) the wildest, worth waiting in line}. Build some anticipation. Back to the Eden, do note I booked a Superior Room and not a Deluxe room; was scared of a Deluxe (bottom tier) room because I once stayed for a week at Mingle on the Wing in either a Lite or Single room and it was bad really bad. Would like to try the VIP or Super-VIP at Eden sometime don't know price because need to call for price of those rooms (were booked when I was at Eden, and did not think to ask about price).

Am looking forward to Halloween and some days after, will be my fourth trip to HK so still a newb by most standards.

Ugly One.

Nights are working girl time in Wanchai. Has been this way for a hundred years. You can get the odd lady (and I mean odd) who is not working as such, though this doesn't last for long. Friday night and Saturday night you get the party girls (usually have partners and partners are normally there) who like to have a good time with their friends. Though I've bumped into a a couple at Victoria Hotel. Ouch!

Makati is lucky to have 50 people from Mon to Thur night and sometimes gets around a hundred on Fri and Sat night. Like most bars in Wanchai it is quiet. The only bar that consistently gets good crowds is Escape and probably Amazonia. My guess is that business in the bars is down by 40 to 50% compared to 2010.

500 is the still the standard DH price on a Sat or Sun if guys shop around, though some DH ask for more.

Back in 2013 Chantik reported on a Makati Halloween party that was invitation only. Is this a trend with the Wan Chai clubs for Halloween, or simply a one-off at Makati? Just doing some planning.

As a regular traveller to HK knowing the WC and DHs scene I always try to fly in on Saturdays with a plan to party not too much that night😉 However this time came already Friday.

NM my favorite old Place still ok but only cause I Know the Girls and waitresses somehow. Good fun with my regular from last time. We headed later to HKC, met other Friends, partied all Night in the Bar, bed, bathroom, Front of the Window, almost everywhere. Totally drunk. She and me. Same story next day, so that was it with my initial Plan. Nevertheless managed to get up on Sunday at least at 1 pm, headed straight to Bar109. Instantly got girl hands on my balls, but girls not of my taste this time. Went back and forth between 109 and P's. Finally at 6. 30 pm went to Nept3, saw a cutie at the Bar. Bought a drink and a Shot- as return got deep kisses. The rest Remains Secret. Sunday still works great. And she will be my new number one DH here. BTW: Damage for the girl the nights before 100 USD per Night. Cause I know her👍.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;1781634]As stated the price was 850 HKD for 90 minutes. Everything was covered. Did not ask for BBBJ.

You should allow for another 20 HKD. You are expected to put this in the box in the changing room as a tip for the staff.[/QUOTE]I visited the Island Sauna last night. I was assigned QQ (or number 99). She was tall, thin and had implants. Not what I would have chosen but not unpleasant. You take the lift up to the first floor and are immediately at reception. They direct you to the all male locker room (you pay upon leaving) and have you strip down. The man will then give you a towel and shower shoes. There's also a sauna but I didn't use it. After the shower the same person who gave you the towel will give you a robe and direct you to the host. He leads you to the massage room where your girl will shortly join you. QQ gave a passable 40 minute massage and then left (to wash up, I assume). When she came back she stripped and started to get into it. She started by licking and sucking very nicely (BBBJ) and then put on the cover. There was a little DATY (OK, a lot) and then mish followed by doggy (curiously enough she produced a stool that she knelt on for this). I followed WarmStone25's advice and tipped 20 to the towel guys and paid $866 for the service. I'm not sure why I paid the $16 more but it wasn't an issue. I had asked if this was for 90 minutes and was told it was. I don't know if I could have chosen a shorter time as I was interested in the 90 minutes. Good Luck.

I am surprised that Gents purchase a service without choosing the lady. Strange.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1710901]Two general and polite comments:

1. Most hotels are GF, as long as they don't dress like a WG.

2. Why HK for 100% mongering trip? Better venues: Bkk / Thailand, Philippines, even Indonesia.

For more in depth FR, look at Natty Bumpo's numerous posts on his escapades to HK and the above three countries.[/QUOTE]Kinda of late reply but hey I only got the chance to visit Manila and Indonesia recently. I'm especially impressed by the beauty of Indo girls. They might as well be the prettiest girls in Asia. I thought they'd be conservative but boy was I wrong. Angels with Devil's eyes and devils souls. Pinays are pinays. Totally random girls, living by the day, but I like them usually. AC is WanChai on steroids.

Also easier to go BBFS (including CIP) if that's your thing.

Must say however than it is way easier to plan and execute a business trip with benefits in HK than in Jakarta or Manila / AC.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1787495]I am surprised that Gents purchase a service without choosing the lady. Strange.[/QUOTE]I think that this is because I was new to the place. Each of the girls made a point of giving me their name and number so that I could ask for them next time. On my first visit the girl to whom I was assigned was taken away because a regular customer requested her. So it appears that you can get to know who your favourites are and request them.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1785105]Nights are working girl time in Wanchai. Has been this way for a hundred years. You can get the odd lady (and I mean odd) who is not working as such, though this doesn't last for long. Friday night and Saturday night you get the party girls (usually have partners and partners are normally there) who like to have a good time with their friends. Though I've bumped into a a couple at Victoria Hotel. Ouch!

Makati is lucky to have 50 people from Mon to Thur night and sometimes gets around a hundred on Fri and Sat night. Like most bars in Wanchai it is quiet. The only bar that consistently gets good crowds is Escape and probably Amazonia. My guess is that business in the bars is down by 40 to 50% compared to 2010.

500 is the still the standard DH price on a Sat or Sun if guys shop around, though some DH ask for more.[/QUOTE]I don't get to HK often enough to really see the trends, but what you are saying fits my few experiences the past few years. Why is business in WC down so much? Is it the supply or the demand? Visa problems on the supply end? I've been midweek to Escape, and while there were still a lot of people, the quality of girls was not what it used to be.

[QUOTE=UglyOne;1785344]Back in 2013 Chantik reported on a Makati Halloween party that was invitation only. Is this a trend with the Wan Chai clubs for Halloween, or simply a one-off at Makati? Just doing some planning.[/QUOTE]Just go into the club and ask the manager nicely for an invitation. He will give it to you.

[QUOTE=FiftyShades;1788021]I don't get to HK often enough to really see the trends, but what you are saying fits my few experiences the past few years. Why is business in WC down so much? Is it the supply or the demand? Visa problems on the supply end? I've been midweek to Escape, and while there were still a lot of people, the quality of girls was not what it used to be.[/QUOTE]Two main reasons.

1) Harder for Phillipine ladies to get visas to HK and to renew their visa's.

2) Indonesian refugee ladies had their applications rejected and have left HK.

Apparently Immigration and the Indonesian Consulate will have a combined sweep of Wanchai bars searching for overstaying Indonesian's in the next few weeks.