Manila

my lovely gf wanted to try hobbitt house this evening so we hopped in a taxi to culturally rich, safe and clean del pilar for a drink. it was literally for a drink as she also wanted to stop by another place that we had both remarked on before but had never been to. an sml and vodka & 7 later i ask for the tab and get a bill for 810php! $20. 00 frigging usd! the place was half filled with people and i told the gf "wait until they see their bills, there'll be a melee."

better to vote with one's wallet and feet than to be the victim of mob action by dwarfs, an attack i could never live down whether i could escape the fracas or not either physically or criminally, i politely paid the bill and left. who wants to go to jail for beating up a bunch of midgets anyway? upon getting out of bed at 3:30 a. m. this morning to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] my $20. 00 away i remembered i'd been there before many years ago and swore i'd never return due to the prices. its now indelibly etched in my wallet. bring plenty of money with you if you go there and leave any sense of realistic pricing at home.

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler;1406138]I apologize guys and Red Kilt is right. Check before you depart. And I did write at the bottom of my message (which some of you may have missed) to check with your hotel and never assume anything, and as Red suggests, check your tickets, and as someone else suggested, check online.[/QUOTE]Big high 5 and kudos to CT for his post here.

Rarely do guys on ISG admit a mistake.

More often they attack the messenger in some childish way.

Well done Cool T. It's all cool.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1406522]I replied you before you were banned and was a bit supportive to you as well. But for 8000PHP operating in a 3 world country with all your limitation seems a bit off track. I have to say your price could be ok but then you should offer something extra to make you stand out from the crowd of girls in your country not only offer limitation (covered. 2 pops. 3 hrs if I remember correctly) to punters. No one cares if some adds through various escortpages claims higher prices. Except from the top top top girls (hi so models / moviestar class) one should coordinate pricesettings as from which country you operate in. I would not say I would even blink my eye if you quoted. 10000PHP, no limitation as in A+ service (not common in Phils and makes you stand out from the crowd) , CIM / COF / COB, BBBJ, BBFS but then ofcourse you had to put out a nice set of pics of you (and NOT some photoshopped pics of someone does not look like you at all). And don't be picky about the time. Just a friendly piece of advice. You have I must say strong competition from your thousands of fellow phil sisters (some real stunners) charging next to nothing and can easily be found in various datingsites and / or just walking a mall / nightclub. And me been dealing with buying and selling for years. If the market isn`t nice to you change your strategy (try get rid of your regulations, pics and eventually lower price). If this does not work you allways have Havana Cafe or MBC, hehe.[/QUOTE]In other words, GeishaoKomoto, you have to be realistic, if you want to survive in the pussy selling world. Its a hard, hard life, only the tough survive, in the Philippines that is. Your approach was too structured, too formal, especially for the Philippines, where the people are friendly and relaxed. Just say your willing to meet for drinks, and if guy hits it off with you, and you likewise hit it off with him, explain to him what your offering and the compensation you expect.

You have made it too complicated and too business like. So long as you have patience, you will learn the trade, and make the money you want to make, but its always step by step. Learn the profession first, ask for big money second. Persistence pays. Filipinos and Filipinas give up to easy. Hang in, keep communicating with the lads and in time you will learn and earn.

I disagree! But a person on a message board who calls everyone else asshole, is probably an ashwhole.

Never mind. X.

[QUOTE=Dante2; 1406631]Let me give you some free advice.

People on message boards are assholes.

SNIP.[/QUOTE]

there often is a door charge when there is live music. was there a live band? the hh that closed in malate was relatively small and comfortable so i didn't mind the door charge too much. the music was good. 810 does seem like a lot for only one round of drinks.

[quote=slippery; 1406557]my lovely gf wanted to try hobbitt house this evening so we hopped in a taxi to culturally rich, safe and clean del pilar for a drink. it was literally for a drink as she also wanted to stop by another place that we had both remarked on before but had never been to. an sml and vodka & 7 later i ask for the tab and get a bill for 810php! $20. 00 frigging usd! the place was half filled with people and i told the gf "wait until they see their bills, there'll be a melee."

better to vote with one's wallet and feet than to be the victim of mob action by dwarfs, an attack i could never live down whether i could escape the fracas or not either physically or criminally, i politely paid the bill and left. who wants to go to jail for beating up a bunch of midgets anyway? upon getting out of bed at 3:30 am this morning to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] my $20. 00 away i remembered i'd been there before many years ago and swore i'd never return due to the prices. its now indelibly etched in my wallet. bring plenty of money with you if you go there and leave any sense of realistic pricing at home.[/quote]

I arrived late last night (4/4). By the way, Delta still uses Terminal 1 for those wondering. I changed money, took a taxi to the Hyatt in Ermita (paid 400 pesos) and checked in. Went upstairs, partially unpacked and took a shower. Went back downstairs at 11:30 pm and stepped out onto the street right in front of the hotel. Directly across the street sat a cute 23-year-old, Jane, who asked me if I wanted a massage. I asked how much? She said 1500 for all night. Holy cow! Sold! We walked right back across the street and went up to my room. No hassle from the hotel at all. Two shots so far with this beautiful creature, and she's asleep in the bed as I type this. Wow, why did I wait so long to come here? This beats even Thailand (based on half a day's experience, anyway).

I'm tempted to just keep Jane with me for my whole trip. She's so perfect and accommodating. But then I'd miss out on so many others. Anyway, a fantastic first-time experience so far.

Still hoping to meet other ISGers who might be around. Send a PM if you want to get together.

Bruce

[QUOTE=GeishaoKomoto; 1406299]Hi guys,

Its me, sofiaydonna, to those who asking me for my photo, I upload but I receive an email that il be banned forever. So I make a new account. I want to justify my self. In my pimp my price was 500usd but he only give 200usd. When my client tell me how my pimp negotiating with them I decided to become independent so my client helping me to make my own website. So when I try to search a forum for escort, I saw this and I try to post my ads here. I know that the chances to get a client is 50/50. But guys please don't make me feel down. If you check to other internet escort der price is higher than me. Aside from that I am not only giving a sex service, I also offer companionship and a tour. Please don't get mad regarding my post and stop judging me, know me first.

And thanks to those people who could understand me and defending me thanks thanks a lot.

Please admin allow my post here thanks.[/QUOTE]Since you're apologizing and explaining, you should explain why you're charging locals 4000P and foreigners 8000P.

[QUOTE=X Man;1406857]There often is a door charge when there is live music. Was there a live band? The HH that closed in Malate was relatively small and comfortable so I didn't mind the door charge too much. The music was good. 810 does seem like a lot for only one round of drinks.[/QUOTE]There was no door charge X. There was entertainment which consisted of one solo performer during the 30 minutes we were there. Yes, it was 810.

So, I'm now ready to embark on my Manila adventure. In anticipation of it, I've worked hard on DIA. To supplement my usual activities with some semblance of non-pro GFE. Well, I must say that I'm cautiosly optiministic.

I've found 2 ladies of a true beauty on DIA. Both are young, slim, gorgeious fresh face, chirpy and lough at my every sentence. It took me few weeks of intensive communication with many, but I finally isolated 2 that are top-notch and know what I'm looking for. All were vetted on Skype. One of them, I'm flying into Manila from Cebu. She asked 3000p for that. But, after seeing her on Skype, I've concluded that she's worth every penny of it. Both give me a hard on by just looking at them. One of them initially bailed out, when she heard of my desire to have "fun first". She wanted only serious relationship. But, I convinced her that if chemistry is right. Anythying may happen (which is true in theory). So, slowly but surely, they all got used to the idea of some fun in my hotel.

In addition to 2 top beauties (that can easily light up a front page of any magazine) , I have about 15 ladies that also seem to be ready for a fun in the room, but are a bit more of a girl next door type. All were vetted with Skype and gave their mobiles. All are pretty, but much simpler than the first two.

Now, the question arises as to how to get the cat in the sac on the first day. As I don't have many days to spend, this is the key objective now. I've dropped heavy hints to the ladies as to what I'm expecting on the first date. Hints that left little to the imagination. While none of the ladies seemed to be the brightest bulb, so to speak, I hope they fully understood what is being planned. I'm a bit rusty with a normal dating ritual that I'm not sure, if I'll succeed to get them in bed on day one. From what I hear on this forum, Pinays seem fairly easy to lay, but me being a sceptic, I'm still unsure how all this would transpire. Any experience of esteemed members of this forum on "closing the deal" on a DIA girls that declar that they are looking for a "serious relationship" will be certainly helpful here!

To sum up. DIA can be a great resourse, but only if one enjoys (as I do) the internet chase for the cuties. If I lay the 2 beauties I've selected for my top choice. The few weeks of DIA preparation has certainly paid off for me.

Good hunting to all! If someone is in Manila in mid-month and wants to join for high-end soapies / clubs. PM me.

A

[QUOTE=Chris Peterson;1406224]I RTF, but didn't find anything. Anyone any experience with this hotel? Is it close to the action? Will they mind if I bring a few girlfriends up to my room?[/QUOTE]I stayed here about a yr ago.

Its a bit out of the way of the main road, Not many taxis to be found there, There are "hotel" taxis or what you call them who will take you to MOA for a inflated price. If you have the time, walk to the main entry to the complex on the main road and you can find what transport you need.

The hotel is "dark" in the corridoors, Checkin was a nightmare as in it took 30mins+, The bed was broken and the room was very dimmly lit.

I had a aqua room with the fishtank running the width of the back wall. The rooms are small, No outside window on these rooms.

Had to keep reminding the cleaning staff to replenish the toiletries etc.

I never saw many "gf" coming and going. Its more of a family hotel.

Nothing to pickup in the hotel bar next to the swimming pool that closes quite early (around 1030pm IIRC)

The entry to the hotel is on the Left side of the Oceanarium. Only divided by a clear glass wall and you pass through a metal detector gate, Then you need to catch a lift up and walk past the reception desk, Then it becomes a T with rooms left and right (if you are on that floor)

Pick another hotel closer to the action.

[QUOTE=Aibolit;1407130]Now, the question arises as to how to get the cat in the sac on the first day. As I don't have many days to spend, this is the key objective now. I've dropped heavy hints to the ladies as to what I'm expecting on the first date. Hints that left little to the imagination. While none of the ladies seemed to be the brightest bulb, so to speak, I hope they fully understood what is being planned. I'm a bit rusty with a normal dating ritual that I'm not sure, if I'll succeed to get them in bed on day one. From what I hear on this forum, Pinays seem fairly easy to lay, but me being a sceptic, I'm still unsure how all this would transpire. Any experience of esteemed members of this forum on "closing the deal" on a DIA girls that declar that they are looking for a "serious relationship" will be certainly helpful here![/QUOTE]Firstly I'm glad that things took an upswing and you've found the girls you're looking for. Patience and persistence pay. I'll assume the girls aren't as dim as you suspect, but if you're uncertain then it behooves you to be direct so you don't waste your time later. With the girls you meet be a take-charge type of guy. Not bossy or commanding, but just naturally confident in telling her the things that will be done. Fewer "What do you want to do?" questions, more "We'll do this" directives. I don't know what activities you've promised (dinner, clubbing, gallivanting to and fro) ; you'll better set yourself up for success if they meet you at your hotel rather than outside. Meet her in the lobby, bring her up to the room, offer her a drink and snack, have a friendly chat (not about sex) for 30 min or so to establish you're safe, sane, and kind. Tell her you want to kiss her, move in, heat her up a bit, and tell her "Let's take a shower now." If you find hesitancy it's likely she's a bit modest, so tell her to shower alone. Once you seal the deal then do those dating-type activities if you're so inclined.

If the girl adamantly refuses to meet at your hotel then you've likely got one who's still undecided. Up to you if you want to invest further time wooing her in a mall, coffee shop, or restaurant. IMO eagerness to meet me on my terms trumps looks.

The Hutsori, as disagreeable as he sometimes is, does have some good adivce here. I am a bit more flexible with the modus operandi, but I also have more hours in country. The only thing I would add for Mr Aiboit is that THE FIRST choice, the one you want the most, is the one that most often doesn't work out. Sometimes the 3rd or 4th down the list is the one who surprises you. Good luck. X.

[QUOTE=Hutsori; 1407241]Firstly I'm glad that things took an upswing and you've found the girls you're looking for. Patience and persistence pay. I'll assume the girls aren't as dim as you suspect, but if you're uncertain then it behooves you to be direct so you don't waste your time later. With the girls you meet be a take-charge type of guy. Not bossy or commanding, but just naturally confident in telling her the things that will be done. Fewer "What do you want to do?" questions, more "We'll do this" directives. I don't know what activities you've promised (dinner, clubbing, gallivanting to and fro) ; you'll better set yourself up for success if they meet you at your hotel rather than outside. Meet her in the lobby, bring her up to the room, offer her a drink and snack, have a friendly chat (not about sex) for 30 min or so to establish you're safe, sane, and kind. Tell her you want to kiss her, move in, heat her up a bit, and tell her "Let's take a shower now." If you find hesitancy it's likely she's a bit modest, so tell her to shower alone. Once you seal the deal then do those dating-type activities if you're so inclined.

If the girl adamantly refuses to meet at your hotel then you've likely got one who's still undecided. Up to you if you want to invest further time wooing her in a mall, coffee shop, or restaurant. IMO eagerness to meet me on my terms trumps looks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1407130]So, I'm now ready to embark on my Manila adventure. In anticipation of it, I've worked hard on DIA. To supplement my usual activities with some semblance of non-pro GFE. Well, I must say that I'm cautiosly optiministic.

I've found 2 ladies of a true beauty on DIA. Both are young, slim, gorgeious fresh face, chirpy and lough at my every sentence. It took me few weeks of intensive communication with many, but I finally isolated 2 that are top-notch and know what I'm looking for. All were vetted on Skype. One of them, I'm flying into Manila from Cebu. She asked 3000p for that. But, after seeing her on Skype, I've concluded that she's worth every penny of it. Both give me a hard on by just looking at them. One of them initially bailed out, when she heard of my desire to have "fun first". She wanted only serious relationship. But, I convinced her that if chemistry is right. Anythying may happen (which is true in theory). So, slowly but surely, they all got used to the idea of some fun in my hotel.

In addition to 2 top beauties (that can easily light up a front page of any magazine) , I have about 15 ladies that also seem to be ready for a fun in the room, but are a bit more of a girl next door type. All were vetted with Skype and gave their mobiles. All are pretty, but much simpler than the first two.

Now, the question arises as to how to get the cat in the sac on the first day. As I don't have many days to spend, this is the key objective now. I've dropped heavy hints to the ladies as to what I'm expecting on the first date. Hints that left little to the imagination. While none of the ladies seemed to be the brightest bulb, so to speak, I hope they fully understood what is being planned. I'm a bit rusty with a normal dating ritual that I'm not sure, if I'll succeed to get them in bed on day one. From what I hear on this forum, Pinays seem fairly easy to lay, but me being a sceptic, I'm still unsure how all this would transpire. Any experience of esteemed members of this forum on "closing the deal" on a DIA girls that declar that they are looking for a "serious relationship" will be certainly helpful here!

To sum up. DIA can be a great resourse, but only if one enjoys (as I do) the internet chase for the cuties. If I lay the 2 beauties I've selected for my top choice. The few weeks of DIA preparation has certainly paid off for me.

Good hunting to all! IF SOMEONE IS IN MANILA IN MID-MONTH AND WANTS TO JOIN FOR HIGH-END SOAPIES / CLUBS. PM ME.

A[/QUOTE]You will get all girls to say yes all the time to anything you ask. All girls ask for money for travel. Just book the ticket-not send money. All the girls I hit stayed with me and no problem about sex.

Generally staying together means sex. Some will say I need to get you know you. You need to ditch them. Very few beautiful girls want to have fun with you, so beware of scams.

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1407130]So, I'm now ready to embark on my Manila adventure. In anticipation of it, I've worked hard on DIA. To supplement my usual activities with some semblance of non-pro GFE. Well, I must say that I'm cautiosly optiministic.

A[/QUOTE]I hope it works out A but by the sound of it (and your rather OTT FR) it could easily be a train wreck waiting to happen. Have a plan B, C, D etc and never send money, you can book Cebu Pacific online (and book it one way) using a credit card. You can book the other leg after she arrives so you are flexible. If she turns out to be a well made up he she can get the next plane home (thats if you are generous. I know few mongers who would just walk!)

Really wish this works out but all I can see at this moment is a doe eyed monger on his first Manila visit and a possible scam victim.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1407395]You can book Cebu Pacific online (and book it one way) using a credit card. You can book the other leg after she arrives so you are flexible. If she turns out to be a well made up he she can get the next plane home (that's if you are generous. I know few mongers who would just walk!)

Really wish this works out but all I can see at this moment is a doe eyed monger on his first Manila visit and a possible scam victim.[/QUOTE]

I agree with WR. Buy a one way ticket on your credit card. That way she/he won't be cashing it in at the other end. I have been lucky with travel arrangements as the ladies I have met from out of town have paid their own way to meet me and I reimbursed them on arrival. They are in the Philippines and can keep an eye out for decent seat sale prices.

I have to tell you that I am very cautious about the ladies who are real stunners online. There are a lot who are hes and I defy you to tell the reality visually, even in person. Some of the ladies you see in person are hes and you may not know the truth until you find a package where there shouldn't be one. Be careful and good luck.