General Reports

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2324993]I have done a simple price comparison on several so-called duty-free items in HK, Incheon and Guam in trips over the past 3 months, and I can state with certainty that I can buy the same items in the SM liquor stores in Manila at the same or cheaper prices in Manila.[/QUOTE]Brother that is anywhere. I don't know why people are still falling for the duty free rip off. In the Dominican Republic I took my coworker to the grocery store to buy some liquor. When we left and were going through duty free at the airport I pointed out to her that the price was double what we paid at the grocery store.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2325457]Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.

Amazing sex or curiosity about what's it like with an old guy?

Maybe she likes discussing western values, culture, art, literature. Perhaps it's been taken to good restaurants bars and clubs, trips abroad or to the beach but most posts don't mention this as part of the arrangement and often in fact boast about it costing them nothing.

I keep coming back to it being that the girls see something in it for them whether short term and immediate or more long term where money is not discussed in the early stages. Here they roll the dice, hope for the best and take their chances it will work out eventually.

What am I missing?[/QUOTE]In my case, the times where a 20 year old cutie met me under totally non P4P circumstances and had sex with me without any discussion or (apparently) expectation of money have been rare. Three times in the past few years while I was in my 60's for sure. Maybe another 1-2 times that I've forgotten due to sheer numbers of other girls I've been with both directly P4P and not. The times when the cutie has been in her late 20's or early 30's has been much more often. I'd say a dozen times or more at least.

With the 20 year olds (let's say 18 to 23 years old), I can only say we met either on a dating site or with her working in a restaurant or mall, a sort of friendship was struck, we had a date and by the end of that first or second date max we were naked in my bed and having sex. I cannot say what their "real" motive was other than what they said about it; that they liked/loved me and wanted to have sex with me. In no case have I taken a girl to expensive restaurants except perhaps once out of curiosity to check it out (mine, not there's). There were no luxury hotels, no whirlwind trips domestically or abroad, no shopping sprees or anything like that. Of course, as it is with virtually ALL women, I am sure they were/are looking for "something in it for them" other than profit-free rolls in the sack.

With the late 20's and early 30's girls it is easy to assume they are looking to play the long game with ongoing security being the goal, just like women everywhere. They have seen their value to local Thai men plummet due to their advanced age (LOL), due to their having a baby or both. And that is what I do assume.

But there is another group of young cute girls I sometimes meet on the dating sites who are delving in what I would call "P4P Curious" behavior. They are toying with the idea of making much easier, faster and bigger money than their education and business networking or connections levels could ever produce by earning money for having sex with relative strangers. They meet me, feel safe or relaxed with me, like me enough to give it away for free once or twice, come to believe the part of P4P life where they have sex with men who they would not ordinarily choose for a romp just for the pleasure of it is ok with them after all and then they hit me up for money to pay for it one way or another later. Maybe they don't want to admit openly or to themselves that they are in fact hooking.

For the most part, that last category of girls saw it as P4P all along (and so did I really) but were willing to get the Pay a few days After in order to give that arrangement a test drive with someone they felt ok about being with. And, let's face it, they were testing it with a man for whom they assumed they would not "fall in love" in the way they might with a much younger, more age-appropriate man. I am sure it was like, "Hey, this guy seems like a good test subject. Let's see if I am ok with having sex with older men for money." And it goes like that once or twice until I get the Line message about the sick or dying grandma.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2325457]Can somebody explain to me why a 20 year old cutie in any country would sleep with a sixty something year old if not for monetary reward. Posts about spending sex filled days with contacts from social media where money is never discussed baffle me.

I am not casting aspirations on the validity of the posters but what is it be about.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you should. Remember what one poster said? If there are no pics, it just did not happen. LOL.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2326205]Perhaps you should. Remember what one poster said? If there are no pics, it just did not happen. LOL.[/QUOTE]In that case, there are only 2-3 posters here who have ever had sex with anyone. And that many isn't even a certainty. How often do we see pics in these threads of people engaging in actual sex acts? On the rare occasions we do, how do we know the guy in the pic is really the poster or that the girl is the one he is reporting on?

You're not counting Line screen shots or pics of girls sitting next to a guy, smiling at the camera as proof that actual sex occurred at any time between them are you?

It's possible to have a permanent visa if I buy a property in Thailand? Do I own 100% of property land? I hesitate buying a property between Brazil and Thailand. I know if I buy in Brazil, I own 100% of property land I buy. Can I stay 3 months in Thailand if I get a Brazilian permanent visa?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2326168]But there is another group of young cute girls I sometimes meet on the dating sites who are delving in what I would call "P4P Curious" behavior. They are toying with the idea of making much easier, faster and bigger money than their education and business networking or connections levels could ever produce by earning money for having sex with relative strangers. They meet me, feel safe or relaxed with me, like me enough to give it away for free once or twice, come to believe the part of P4P life where they have sex with men who they would not ordinarily choose for a romp just for the pleasure of it is ok with them after all and then they hit me up for money to pay for it one way or another later. Maybe they don't want to admit openly or to themselves that they are in fact hooking.[/QUOTE]Actually ET whether she is 20 or 28 doesn't make a lot of difference in my failing to understand why they sleep with a sixty year old unless it is for the money.

I sometimes with nothing better to do peruse genuine international dating sites and I have rarely if ever seen a girl in her twenties or indeed thirties indicate she is happy meeting up with men 30 to 40 years older than her.

I am also for the sake of the conversation talking about attractive girls who are not short of possibilities with guys closer to their own age. Those challenged by the figures of beauty may decide a shag with jolly old Jim is better than staying at home with her 6 inch dildo.

I totally get explanations summarized under playing the long game. "How long you stay " is a box checked early on by the girls.

As to curiosity about what's it like with an old geezer, possible I suppose but I imagine rare particularly with Thai girls.

I get it that some working prefer older guys, less wear and tear and possibly more satisfying but only if they are being paid.

Your explanation that it's possibly a novice intending on entering the P4P business deciding on checking it out first with an old guy of her choice before going all in I find a stretch.

To finish I find paying for it less complicated, more satisfying and I would feel more than guilty if there was even a hint that she was playing the long game and I had no intention of ever helping her with the vet bills for the sick buffalo.

I'm no where close to 60 and I feel self conscious with some of the younger looking girls. I don't care if a girl is 18,19, or 20. It's fine if they look it but a couple of the girls I really like are 19 and 20 now but definitely look like little kids to me still. One keeps asking me to go to Hollywood on her days off but I keep turning her down.

I'd like to bring up a point that most girls who say they are 18 or 19 are really older, They figure most Farang tourists have no clue on their age. Even I have been very wrong on age before, I guessed a girl to be 19 and she was 25, another I guessed 26 and she was 37. Asian girls can really fool you so next time you think you're with a young Asian girl she may mot be as young as you think.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2326309]I'd like to bring up a point that most girls who say they are 18 or 19 are really older[/QUOTE]I think that's true in the USA, but it's definitely not true in Jakarta. If a girl in Jakarta tells you she is 18 or 19, she is likely 14 or 15. So it's best to check their ID first.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2326339]If a girl in Jakarta tells you she is 18 or 19, she is likely 14 or 15. So it's best to check their ID first.[/QUOTE]Same in PH. If she says she's 18, it normally means she's turning 18 this year or next.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2326356]Same in PH. If she says she's 18, it normally means she's turning 18 this year or next.[/QUOTE]Same story in Cambodia. On my recent trip last month I met a girl at a bar near the Pontoon area. In the bar she said 22. I barfined her and took her to my hotel. At the hotel reception the guy checked her ID and told me she is not even 17 yet. I gave her $10 and sent her on her way. This is why I prefer a hotel which enforces a strict ID check policy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2326213]In that case, there are only 2-3 posters here who have ever had sex with anyone. And that many isn't even a certainty. How often do we see pics in these threads of people engaging in actual sex acts? On the rare occasions we do, how do we know the guy in the pic is really the poster or that the girl is the one he is reporting on?

You're not counting Line screen shots or pics of girls sitting next to a guy, smiling at the camera as proof that actual sex occurred at any time between them are you?[/QUOTE]Hey, I was not the guy who made that preposterous statement. 5555.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2326213]In that case, there are only 2-3 posters here who have ever had sex with anyone. And that many isn't even a certainty. How often do we see pics in these threads of people engaging in actual sex acts? On the rare occasions we do, how do we know the guy in the pic is really the poster or that the girl is the one he is reporting on?

You're not counting Line screen shots or pics of girls sitting next to a guy, smiling at the camera as proof that actual sex occurred at any time between them are you?[/QUOTE]Nobody said they didn't have sex with "anyone". They just likely had sex with a girl far less attractive than they claim. A photo tells the story. They don't have to post themselves having sex with the girl or even a photo of them with the girl, they can simply post a photo that is obviously not a glamour shot and we can take them for their word. At least it gives more perspective than a claim in text.

I've posted hundreds of pics on this forum over the years. It's not difficult. Some guys like some of the girls and others don't. But the photos speak volumes. Syzgies is still drooling over that one photo I posted of Ice from Crazy House a while ago. Had I not posted the photo, the post wouldn't even have gotten a notice.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2326560]Nobody said they didn't have sex with "anyone". They just likely had sex with a girl far less attractive than they claim. A photo tells the story. They don't have to post themselves having sex with the girl or even a photo of them with the girl, they can simply post a photo that is obviously not a glamour shot and we can take them for their word. At least it gives more perspective than a claim in text.

I've posted hundreds of pics on this forum over the years. It's not difficult. Some guys like some of the girls and others don't. But the photos speak volumes. Syzgies is still drooling over that one photo I posted of Ice from Crazy House a while ago. Had I not posted the photo, the post wouldn't even have gotten a notice.[/QUOTE]And what happens if a poster has sex with someone far less attractive than the reader imagined? Nothing, imo. I think you found that out with regard to Ice. For you and perhaps for 1,000 other guys, sitting in the presence of Ice turned you on in ways her photo could never in a million years convey, right?

By contrast, I might sit next to someone 2-3 posters here claim is their very high and never to accept a compromise standard/spec for 30 minutes with my hand on her bare thigh and not sprout so much as half a woody. Yet their photos might make them appear to be super hot. Photos often mean near to nothing when it comes to sex. So I don't see the point in providing that kind of perspective. Maybe as a way to identify someone in a bar search I suppose.

Imo, barring extremes of age, weight or physical deformity that take a girl off the list, photos have very little to do with telling the story when it comes to fuckable, doable or even damned sexy girls I and perhaps many, many others might be willing to pay money to be with when out mongering.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2326572]Yet their photos might make them appear to be super hot. Photos often mean near to nothing when it comes to sex. So I don't see the point in providing that kind of perspective.[/QUOTE]I remember the sausages they push around on that cart look so good to me. Finally I could not resist and had to try one. I am sure you guys do not believe I ate the sausage because I am not posting a picture of it. But what I can tell you is that it tasted horrible. Not even sure it was sausage. Anyone have any idea what it really is?

Okay. I did decide to post the glamour shot of the sausage, but I promise you I did try one. Why would you have any doubt that I bought the sausage?

The validity of posts on the forum has always existed. Personally I couldn't give a rat's ass whether somebody's post about an encounter is true or not especially if they are well written and entertaining as some of them are.

Why would I care whether it happened or not. If a member's posts are irritating simply use the ignore button and the problem goes away. Why continue reading and taking issue with the poster. I don't get it.

I do however take exception to shilling and misleading posts if they are intended to entice readers into visiting particular establishments or girls they are in some way associated with.