Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Talkyes;2608878]I think he's saying you can expect to pay more for not being able to communicate. So basically you're going to take a girl up without agreeing on anything specific, maybe a price that will already be higher than average, and then once you get up and have to use the translator to explain what you want, then she's going to again charge more than she usually would because she already has you as a customer. I don't know the scene very well but maybe your best bet is to bust out the translator after you get out of the street but before you pay for the room or anything else. You'll still pay more, but not as much more.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I am advised by some in Medellin forum that I should use a throw away phone to communicate and try to minimize bad experiences and outregeous upselling. I have done this successfully using google translate in Tijuana, Mexico. In Bogota, I just have to be lot more careful not to get robbed as I will be using my phone out in open to solicit SWs.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2608848]...

If I need to memorize something or print something or buy something, I still have a week time to take care of it before I land in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Learn to say and understand the numbers. Use google translator to learn some simple words like "how much". The girls will understand even if the sentence is not complete.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2608832]My God, you guys and your MSNBC. How would you go about "checking the immune system"?

[/QUOTE]How would I go? I can think of several ways. They're listed here by real medical professionals for your viewing convenience.

[URL]https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/immunology/diagnostic-tests/immunodeficiency.aspx[/URL]

Could you do everyone a huge favor and keep your multiple fallacies, from "useless condoms" to "harmful vaccines," in American Politics? Every single one of your "arguments" have been thoroughly debunked there, but you just keep slinging the same old shit against the same wall over and over and over again. You as an [B]expert[/B] witness? My goodness, you'd be laughed out of a real courtroom 30 seconds after opening your mouth. Come to think of it, I'd pay good money to see that.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2609082]How would I go? I can think of several ways. They're listed here by real medical professionals for your viewing convenience.[/QUOTE]You MSNBC lovers do not even read your own links. "Our most common test is monitoring the number of CD4T cells in HIV patients, as well as measuring T cells, be cells and NK cells in babies and children with a suspected immunodeficiency, such as Severe Combined Immune Deficiency (SCID)."

So which one do you think he has, SCID found in children, or HIV? Have you even heard of SCID? Of course not. Yeah, that is how often your "testing the immune system" is done.

What happened with Woodman is common. 73% of people with Covid in 2020 had repeated + tests in a 2 month period in 2021. You just did not know that so you assumed it was not normal. Yeah I know MSNBC did not cover it, and you watch it and think you know everything.

As for Woodman's immune system, the most important thing is he said it was fine and given he was sick with covid multiple times and did not end up in a hospital, why would you think otherwise?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2609082]Could you do everyone a huge favor and keep your multiple fallacies, from "useless condoms" to "harmful vaccines," in American Politics?[/QUOTE]I will be happy to when you and your MSNBC watching fools quit recommending treatments and testing when you have no clue what you are talking about.

Great Report Dr. So many Dumbsses buying BigPharma propaganda!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2608859]Yeah, there is a problem with the data. All the countries right now that have 100,000 cases per million right now (save for tiny Georgia) are heavily vaccinated. In real life, though, I am seeing more infections among the unvaccinated than vaccinated. So I am like WTF is really going on?

Before I said that asymptomatic spread was bullshit, but now it would seem that it is what has to be going on. In fact, the only thing that fits the data in Israel is that the vaccinated are carrying the virus not having any or very mild symptoms and passing it onto those that are not vaccinated.

The interesting thing is where Covid numbers are fading: India, Colombia, Peru. There is a lot of natural immunity there, and that fits the Israeli data as well: [URL]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf[/URL].

This article is a long read, but it is the best I have read. I will say that this article changed my mind about vaccinations, and it confirmed what I deduced from the numbers: [URL]https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html[/URL].

Here are some of the highlights:

This never-ending conveyor belt of mutations means that everyone's immunity to COVID was always only going to be temporary and only offer partial cross-reactive protection against future re-infections. Thus, from day one, COVID vaccination was always doomed to the same fate as the flu vaccine a lifelong regimen of annual booster shots to try to keep pace with "variants" for those unwilling to expose themselves to the risk of a natural infection. And the hope that by the time the vaccines (and their booster shots) roll off the production line, they won't already be out of date when confronted by the current generation of virus mutations..[/QUOTE]

Just study some elementary Spanish.

[QUOTE=Kerty9;2608737]I am not a spanish speaker. So what is the best way to communicate with SW in Santa Fe?

Is it advisable to use Google Translate with SW? It means I have to carry my phone with me and use it on street to communicate with SW. Is it safe?

Having a phone and using Google translate would work in Casa or club, but the same can pose a robbery / theft risk in Sante Fe.

I am thinking of having few flash cards with pre-translated spanish text, so I can communicate with SW without phone translator.

Need advice and recommedations from other mongers who have tackled the communication issue with Santa Fe SW.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2609104]You MSNBC lovers do not even read your own links. "Our most common test is monitoring the number of CD4T cells in HIV patients, as well as measuring T cells, be cells and NK cells in babies and children with a suspected immunodeficiency, such as Severe Combined Immune Deficiency (SCID)."

So which one do you think he has, SCID found in children, or HIV? Have you even heard of SCID? Of course not. Yeah, that is how often your "testing the immune system" is done.

What happened with Woodman is common. 73% of people with Covid in 2020 had repeated + tests in a 2 month period in 2021. You just did not know that so you assumed it was not normal. Yeah I know MSNBC did not cover it, and you watch it and think you know everything.

As for Woodman's immune system, the most important thing is he said it was fine and given he was sick with covid multiple times and did not end up in a hospital, why would you think otherwise?

I will be happy to when you and your MSNBC watching fools quit recommending treatments and testing when you have no clue what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]1. You previously uttered this:

[QUOTE]My God, you guys and your MSNBC. How would you go about "checking the immune system"?[/QUOTE]I was surprised you didn't know the answer to this question. Nevertheless, I told you how. The link in my post contained 11 (that's eleven) immunodeficiency tests.

And then you did what all propagandists do. You picked two tests -- 2 out of 11 that suited your ideological needs, fully ignoring all others.

Now, most of those tests probably wouldn't apply to Woodman, but I did answer your question. And you could've found it on your own in 5 seconds if you hadn't been devoured with an all-encompassing mission to "own a lib. " That's what it's all about to you, isn't it?

2. Based on your multiple comments, it seems you have deep-seated issues with MSNBC. May I suggest you voice your grievance with them directly? I assure you, I have no influence over what MSNBC is broadcasting.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2609228]1. You previously uttered this:

I was surprised you didn't know the answer to this question. Nevertheless, I told you how. The link in my post contained 11 (that's eleven) immunodeficiency tests.[/QUOTE]The correct answer to the question is you do not do testing on someone who has gotten better. But if I wanted to test Woodman's immune system, I would get a CBC and check for Covid antibodies.

Among your 11 tests was one for tetanus. How you came up with that is beyond me.

Yeah, you really showed me up, lib.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2609041]Learn to say and understand the numbers. Use google translator to learn some simple words like "how much". The girls will understand even if the sentence is not complete.[/QUOTE]I remember seeing in the forum by someone preparing a list of Spanish phrases that could be useful when communicating. Can't find it anymore.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/hermosa-flaca-ardiente-dispuesta-a-complacerte/21436318/[/URL]

Late one night at a Bogota hotel in Fontibon I had the urge and went looking for chicas who advertised 24 horas. Danna came up in the search and answered the WA message and arrived at the hotel surprisingly quickly. After giving her the hotel name and address she still had some confusion about the location but we eventually worked it out. The hotel had no problem letting me have a guest but she needed some ID for the front desk, but since she didn't carry any it took a little while for them to let her in. She is the girl in the ad, gentle and discreet. I'm into foreplay and massaging and she was ok with it but I could tell she was tolerating it and would rather get things moving and go home. No DFK with her and all with condom. Maybe if I weren't 40 years older than her she might get into it a little more. She is no kidding flaca and has a pretty smile.

I'll be back in Bogota in a couple of weeks and at the same hotel on El Dorado near the Bogota Corporate Center. I'd appreciate any recommendations for girls which are nearby or arrive at the hotel dressed so as not to draw too much attention. DFK too.

Just adding some recent reports. If these are helpful to you please post your own.

Karo.

Starting with the facts. Outcall, full hour. DFK, CBJ, 69, cowgirl, k9, missionary, side (idk what that's even called). Damage was 220, overpaid but at least she came to me and so far she's been my favorite. She's the girl from the pics, very pretty with a bubbly attitude. A total trooper, I take a long while to finish and she didn't complain at all. Not a clock watcher, she genuinely seemed to enjoy herself and it seemed like she wasn't faking the Os. Everything was very comfortable, can't understate how affectionate she was. I'd consider this a true GFE, YMMV. Would rate experience 8 out of 10, which is VERY good on my scale.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/hola-amor-soy-karo-3112595463-ven-a-pasarla-delicioso/18996076/[/URL]

Katalina (Kata).

Outcall, full hour, 170 was damage. CBJ, Cowgirl, K9. She's 19 and from Venezuela. She was nice, but noticeably young and inexperienced. If you like young girls then she may be for you but I'm probably just getting too old to enjoy these girls in their late teens / early 20's FWIW. She expected multi pop, because she mentioned she only brought on cover and asked if I had more. Fortunately it's not necessary with me. And what I really liked is that she's a FULL HOUR kind of girl. She set her timer when we started and even after we finished she laid there with me and chatted for a bit until the alarm went off rather than that "OK business done, time to clean and go" kind of experience. If I'm remembering right she offered BBBJ as an extra but I turned it down since I don't finish from it anyway.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/chapinero/linda-joven-con-las-mejores-promociones-id-bzuss[/URL]

If I'm remembering right.

Greetings all,

I am looking for the higher end options of girls. Where can I find the top notch ones? Websites or place recommendations would be much appreciated. And is it possible to go to the high end strip clubs and not drink at all? Just take the girl home?

[QUOTE=TiguereAbroad;2609458]Katalina (Kata). Outcall, full hour, 170 was damage.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/chapinero/linda-joven-con-las-mejores-promociones-id-bzuss[/URL][/QUOTE]Her ad says 110,000 for 1 hour, so I take it there was a 60,000 charge for her to come to you.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2608832]Hell, Fauci did not know what to say with regards to vaccinating previously infected people in light of the recent Israeli data on how much better natural immunity was in comparison to vaccine induced immunity, but you do. Oh right, that Israeli study has not been peer reviewed.
[/QUOTE]You either do not read what you cite, or you do not fully comprehend what you read. Let me help you out, my man.

In case you did read that pre-print, it should not have escaped your notice that this is an observational study. With that, you have to be extremely careful to make sure your groups are comparable, in the sense that differences you see between the groups are not due to design issues and how the subjects were ascertained. So people in the field usually have a fine antenna out for potential problems. This pre-print stands out in the sense that you can see right away (on the abstract page!) that there is a humdinger of a flaw.

"SARS-CoV-2-nave vaccines had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8. 08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021."

Vaccination in Israel started December 19, 2020. Who were the people who got vaccinated in January and February of 2021? The most ill, frail, in general, the people at the highest risk. It is almost comical that Gazit et al thought that by matching age, sex, and geographical area (and adjusting occasionally for an ICD code, which they said didn't make a difference anyways) they can generate an appropriate comparison group (and if there is a variable you want to match on, it is comorbidity, which only highlights their utter quantitative ignorance). To the day we do not fully understand what all the CoViD risk factors are, but according to these guys, one only needs age, sex, zip code, an ICD code (maybe), bam, done. What a bunch of clowns.

There are other issues too. People who get vaccinated tend to have a different exposure than the unvaccinated, which they acknowledge in the Discussion but throw the hands in the air about ("although we controlled for age, sex, and region of residence, our results might be affected by differences between the groups in terms of health behaviors (such as social distancing and mask wearing), a possible confounder that was not assessed" It is easy to see many other potential problems. There is a reason randomized clinical trials are the gold standard, since by definition, the difference you see must be due to the treatment (or is the result of some very unlikely outcome, with a likelihood that itself can be quantified). Yes, there is an entire field trying to draw causal inference from observational studies, but it surely requires more diligence and skills than these yahoos appear to have.

All the technical study design mambo jambo aside, the most important question in science is "does this make sense"? Quite often, when we analyze the data from a study, the results do support what we believed a priori. But sometimes they don't. Then the question is 'How come'? And we start to ask ourselves whether there could be explanations we have not considered before. And if we cannot come up with an explanation, that means we either observed something that still escapes us, or something went awry. Case in point: when it comes to CoViD-19, we consistently see that vaccination produces greater amounts of circulating antibodies than natural infection. So on a molecular level, how is it possible that higher antibody levels lead to poorer health outcomes? I have no idea. Do you?

I'll keep an eye out, but I won't hold my breath that this manuscript will make it into a decent journal.

You are welcome.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2609528]Her ad says 110,000 for 1 hour, so I take it there was a 60,000 charge for her to come to you.[/QUOTE]That is correct. It would have been less if I travelled but I'm not comfortable going to houses or w / e she was at while at night.