Thank you, G Haribo for the very informative report.
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Thank you, G Haribo for the very informative report.
[QUOTE=Johnia32;1946550]I was at the intersection of Shaanxi and. Rd. And Changping Road near where the Budha massage was. There is a massage place at the same location or a few doors down called Min Massage (in English on the sign). Is this the same place as the Budha Massage? Has anyone been there recently for massage plus services.[/QUOTE]
This is from my ISG notes so I am unable to credit the original poster. Sorry poster.
[QUOTE]Update: Buddha place now called Min massage.
Update. I went during daylight and found that the Buddha place has changed names and now has the sign from Min Massage above the door. The buddha wall art has been replaced with a different piece of art. The stairs have been remodeled to give better visibility from the front counter. Service by a somewhat older and heavier girl was OK, not great. Shower, meager massage, slurpy water, cat bath with fake tongue, flip, BJ and HY ending. Damage 268.
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I had the opportunity to come to Shanghai for two weeks in early July for the first time in several years. I apologize for taking so long to post my experiences but I have been pretty busy these past couple of months and lazy as well. But anyway, I decided to try out some places I've never been to before because I'm all about having new experiences. I was a little hesitant after RTFF and coming upon Changelelu's bad weather experience in March, but this hobby comes with calculated risks and as there weren't any other warning signs at the time I decided to visit the following places:
SIYUAN.
Based on Carage's very positive report in #10371, I decided to visit SiYuan. I figured out where it was located based on previous reports and was surprised by its location and the mainstreamness of the brand it is hidden underneath. I went in the early afternoon and I tried to time it so I could have the elevator to myself. However, a family rushed into the elevator at the last second and it was kind of awkward getting off on a darkened floor with a family on board. In this sense, the setup at Bodi with the side entrance is more preferable.
The greeter asked me if I was there for anyone in particular and I said no. He then mentioned that they had a recent change in their pricing and girls would be split into three levels with Blue badge going for 780, Black badge going for 1080, and Red badge going for 1380. After putting my stuff into the locker and changing into the sauna PJ's I made my way to the fish bowl where the floor manager also mentioned the change of pricing as well. Waited a couple of minutes before a lineup of girls showed up. I picked a black badge girl about 5'5 with long black hair who led me to a room, gave me a long kiss, undressed me before undressing herself, and told me to hang out while she got the soapy massage room set up. After washing me clean, she told me to lie down on the soapy table and gave me an excellent soapy massage and BBBJ. As I had been out of action for awhile I could feel myself getting ready to pop and she could sense the same. She stopped the BBBJ and asked if I wanted to move to the other room. I asked if I could pop then and then get a second pop in the other room. She readily agreed and continued and I BBBJCIM.
After getting cleaned up, we went to other room and chatted while she gave me a massage while I recovered. I told her that I would like to see her again next time I was in town. She grabbed her phone out of her bag and added me on WeChat. She said to message her ahead of time next time so she could let the staff know and get credit for it. She said that she normally only gets 500 per customer, but if the customer is a repeat and notifies her ahead of time, she can get 200 more for a total of 700. I asked her if I could just let the staff know upon arrival for her to get the bonus and she said that that wasn't the case anymore. So if you guys find a girl you like at SiYuan, make sure you add on WeChat and let her know when you go again so she can get the bonus that she works hard for. The girl I picked also explained a little more about the levels at SiYuan. Girls that are tall (forgot the exact cutoff for height) automatically get the red badge designation regardless of their looks, attitude, and service. Everyone else starts out as a blue badge and can work their way to a black badge designation. Shorter girls, regardless of how awesome they are, will never be able to get the red badge designation.
As the conversation died down, she playfully tugged below and asked if I was ready for a second pop. I nodded and she began BBBJ again before I pulled her tail up to 69. She then put on the cover and we proceeded through cowgirl, doggy, before finishing in mish. As time was almost up, we got washed up and I promised to see her next time I was in town.
As I was headed back towards the locker room, an attractive girl asked if I wanted an ear cleaning. I agreed and she led me to a room with lounge chairs and straddled me and giggled and made conversation as she plucked my ears clean.
If you're in town for a short stay, I can highly recommend this place as its easy to find and conveniently located while providing high quality service.
XIANYUAN.
Seeing Arizona123's post #10302 about red rope service got me excited as I had fond memories of red rope service at Sea Waves. I sent a PM to him for info and he gave me the rough location and threw in some recommendations for girls. To get there, I took Metro Line 8 to Huangxing Road station, walked east on Kongjiang Road, turned north on Shuangyang Road, and then turned west on Yanji Middle Road. You'll know it's the right road because of the CCB on the southwest corner of the intersection. On Yanji Middle Road past the CCB, there will be two saunas. It's the door to the right.
Going inside and up the staircase to the lobby, the lobby people asked if I had an appointment as they took my shoes. I said no and they sent me up another flight to the changing room. The changing room and the shower room facilities were extremely run down so I decided to skip the shower and change into the sauna PJs and headed off into a hallway to the rest of the facility. There was no one there to lead me as I wandered around until after a second pass, a girl sitting a table asked me what I wanted. I asked her what they had and she said 498 RMB for 60 minutes of FS without soapy, 598 RMB for 90 minutes with soapy, and 850 RMB for red rope. I asked for red rope service and she said I would have to wait as the red rope room was currently occupied. I then asked about the 90 minute soapy and she said the soapy rooms were occupied as well and that I should just go do the regular service as rooms for those were readily available. I asked how long the wait would be for the red rope and the soapy and she said that each would be over half an hour and that I really should get the regular room. I told her I was going to wait for the 90 minute soapy and so she led me to a typical waiting room with the lounge chairs and television and left me there. There was no remote control for the TV, the air conditioning wasn't working and the room was stuffy and sweltering reeking of cigarettes so after ten minutes or so I got fed up and went to go find the lady to see if they could turn on the air conditioning in the room.
The lady apologized profusely for she had no way to change the temperature and asked if I would like to go for regular service instead of waiting and I said no so she led me to the regular massage area and told me to wait there. It wasn't much better there except for one small area which had a working vent and was slightly more tolerable. The room clearly had seen better days as the wallpaper was peeling, the chairs were sagging, and light fixtures were broken.
After another 30 minutes of waiting, I went to go find the lady again to see what was going on and she said that I would have to wait a bit longer but I could go for regular service now if I wanted to. I decided to continue to wait and after another hour, she came back to fetch me and led me to a room with a large soapy area, larger than all the more expensive places. However, repeating the theme of the rest of the place, the room was in pretty awful condition with both the regular bed and soapy bed being concave in the middle and discolored, stuff growing on the walls, and the water fixture constantly running.
The woman left me there and shortly returned with a lineup of almost two dozen girls, all of which were between a 3 and a 6 in looks. Definitely a drop in quality in looks from the more expensive places, which should be expected. I selected one of the ones I thought was better looking and after the other girls had left the room, she undressed me and herself and then led me to the soapy room to give me a cleaning. After I got cleaned, she sprayed down the massive queen sized soapy bed and had me lie down in the middle. Unlike the other places that would place a sheet of plastic on top of the bed for hygienic purposes, there were no sheets of plastic to be had here. After lying in the puddle in the middle of the bed, the girl proceeded to give me the most amazing soapy I ever had in China for the next hour going into multiple positions that were completely new to me. In the middle of it, I joked with her that her future husband was going to be super lucky and she groaned and said that there was no way that she would ever work so hard again. After about an hour, we moved to the regular room where she gave me a catbath, AR, BBBJ, and then on came the rubber and progressed through several positions before I popped. We lay next to each other afterwards and chatted for a bit as I rubbed her back before time was up.
While the place was super rundown and the girls were not very attractive, especially compared to the more well reviewed places on this forum, if you're a fan of soapy massage and don't mind looks over service as much, this place is tough to beat in the soapy game and to me represents a super value. One thing though, this place is even more local than many others reviewed so it might help if you learn some Mandarin before going.
LIANMING DANCE HALL.
Intrigued by the dance halls in Suzhou, I wanted to see if there were similar venues in Shanghai and discovered that there were after RTFF. I decided to visit one in Minhang District based on Arizona123's post in #10054 and ShanghaiNong's post in #9998. I took Metro Line 9 to Zhongchun Road station. I walked east on Husong Highway and turned south on Zhongchun Road. I walked for awhile on Zhongchun Road before going east on Lianming Road. You'll know its Lianming Road because of the giant Porsche facility on the southeast corner. After walking for awhile on Lianming Road, you'll see a shopping center on the north side with an adjacent parking lot on the left side of the shopping center. In the middle of the parking lot side of the building, you'll see a staircase with two giant yellow stars on top. This is the staircase to go up into the dance hall. It's about a 20-30 minute walk from the subway station so you may want to take a taxi instead. After paying 20 RMB at the ticket booth to the left of the staircase, I walked upstairs and dropped off my bag at the counter directly straight in front from the entrance. I also exchanged 120 RMB for 6 cards that you give to the girls for each song they hang out with you instead of cash like you would in Suzhou.
This place is pretty massive, somewhere between Mei Mei and Guanqianda / Jingqiwangzuo of Suzhou in size. For a weekday afternoon, this place was completely packed with both guys and girls. There were dozens upon dozens of girls of all shapes and sizes and of all different age groups. Most of the girls were below a 5 in looks and there roamed about the seated men several older creatures who were begging for a dance. There were maybe a handful of girls that I would rank a 6 or even a 7 and most of the time they were in the company of other guys there. Girls were also constantly coming and going from the dance hall so if you didn't like what you saw, an hour later the lineup could be completely different.
If you're too lazy to look up the other dance hall posts, the way these places work is based on the song tempo and the lighting as the lights alternate between on and off with each song. When the lights are on, the songs are generally faster in tempo and the dance floor is relatively empty as serious dancers take the stage to dance. Towards the end of the faster tempo songs, girls start lining up along the length of the dance floor and guys will walk up and down the line checking girls out to select a girl that they want to dance with and move onto the dance floor. As the faster tempo song switches to a slower tempo song, the lights fade to dark, this dance hall being the darkest one I've been in, and as you dance, you can chat with the girl and feel her up if she so permits. As the song ends, you can pay her with a card and say goodbye or prolong your time with her by finding an area to sit with her for the subsequent faster tempo lights on song as you seek to build rapport with her hoping for more later on.
I sat around by the main entrance for the first couple of songs just observing and also because only really ugly girls were available before a cuter one finally came in from outside during one of the faster songs. I quickly grabbed her hand towards the end of a faster song and led her towards the dance floor. I chatted with her as my hands roamed around her butt but she didn't really allow me to roam anywhere else. After the slow song was over, she asked if I would like to sit so we sat down at a table next to the dance floor and chatted a bit more but the conversation was dull so I gave her two cards and let her go when the song came to an end. A couple more songs passed before another cutie came in from outside. This one's personality was a lot more bubbly than the other one and she also allowed more roaming. I hung out with her alternating between the dance floor and the table area until all my cards were used up and even afterwards she stayed with me for several songs without charging before I had to go. We exchanged WeChat info and I promised to see her next time I was in town. She said that she alternates between several dance halls in the city and that there were better ones closer to the heart of the city and that she would take me to go check out one of those next time I was there.
I wouldn't recommend this place if you're on a short trip but if you're in Shanghai for a longer stay and want to try something lighthearted and different and don't mind traveling a bit, you can go check it out. I think I would actually rather go to one of these places than the hostess KTVs as I found these girls to be a bit more entertaining.
Thanks for the detailed report, From what I understand, XianYuan, the second sauna you reviewed, is closed for "renovation" since September. Maybe the new facility, if the place is actually being renovated and nor closed for good, will upgrade the experience.
[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1947339]Thanks for the detailed report, From what I understand, XianYuan, the second sauna you reviewed, is closed for "renovation" since September. Maybe the new facility, if the place is actually being renovated and nor closed for good, will upgrade the experience.[/QUOTE]I had commented on the general rundown condition of the facilities to the girl that I saw and she said that the place would be undergoing renovations soon so hopefully its the former rather than the latter.
[QUOTE=GHaribo;1946745]
Second day: Elite Sauna.
This one is also an old time Sauna, and one of the best in terms of service and price. But the choice of girls and look have considerably decreased due to competition.
The price is 750 RMB for 90 min and it starts at 10:30 am for those who want an early FS, closing at 1 am. For this, you get the cat massage back and front, BJ, 2 shots. Most of the girls do 69, FK. This place is quite popular due to the price, and waiting time can be long, it is best to go either early in the morning, or during lunch / dinner time.
I went there 2 days ago at around 6:30 pm. Took a shower, went to the waiting room, and was surprised to wait for only 5 min, maybe due to the National holiday where everyone is out of the city. There were around 20 girls in the room, all ranging from 5 to 7 in terms of look, and you just stand in front of them when selecting the girl. I chose one from Harbin that looked reasonably OK and we went straight to the room. As soon as in the room, I lay down on the bed and the service started immediately, with cat massage, BJ, 69, FS, FK..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post. Where is located Elite sauna?
I wrote previously about lousy experience in storefront window places. I said I would not do those places again. So I did not listen to myself and got screwed more ways than one.
I was meeting friends early this evening for dinner near Line 4 Linping Road station. I saw this new (and clean) "foot massage" place with no foot massage couch and a couple of girls in tight dresses sitting on a sofa. The place was on Gongpin Road, heading South towards Zhōujiāzuǐ Road. It was the last one on the left (east) just before Zhōujiāzuǐ Road.
That one girl there looked like a proper OL or your neighborhood MILF. Anyway I finished dinner with my friends. I took some money out of the ATM for gifts for a birthday party I would go to tomorrow. I decided to check the foot massage place out.
I asked that woman if there was FS and she said yes. For 200 rmbs. I thought what the hell. She led me to a room, had me lie down without taking my clothes off. She said she would take care of everything. She proceeded to lower my pants and brief down to my knees. She had her back towards me, and her body leaning across my belly. She then started giving me a BBBJ and a HJ. Less than 10 minutes later, she said how come I had not finished. I said let start the FS. She said FS was BJ and HJ, and the time was up. She never unbuttoned one button, and she wore multiple layers below the waist, girdle, thick pantyhose etc. I did not even had the chance to cop a feel. The whole thing was a rip off. 200 rmb for a 10 minutes fully clothed lousily done BJ and HJ.
But this was not why I am writing this. I doubt if you guys would venture out to that so local area (If you do, don't go to that joint). But this is a thieving trick you may run into elsewhere.
I paid her the 200 and left, feeling scammed, but she had done more than that. When I got to the store to get gifts, I noticed that there were 300 rmbs missing from my wallet. I realized then her trick. By lowering my pants. loose, to my knees and her back towards me and leaning across my belly she completely blocked my view and I would not feel her reaching into the pants pocket to take out my wallet and removed several bills and then put it back. She did not take all or most of the money because then I could not pay or would have noticed when too many bills were missing.
I always think it is much better to go to a sauna where you leave your valuables in the lockers. This is the first time I had money stolen from me in a joint but I doubt that thieving woman invented this pick pocket trick herself. So be careful if someone try that routine on you. I have purposely not do pick up from bars to avoid the risk of having things or money stolen from my place.
Hey guys, will be back in Shanghai on Oct 15-17 and staying at Sheraton Jiading. Any good nuru / massage places nearby? Happy to meet up for some mongering if anyone wants. I'm a Chinese-American guy, only speaks English, but get around hobbying all over the world, including a few times in Shanghai. Let me know by PM.
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[QUOTE=FiveAces;1942505]The last couple of trips I have noticed fake taxi drivers outside Manhattan. They threaten legit drivers who do drop offs so they go away instead of waiting for a pickup. I grabbed a cab doing a drop off once and one of the thug taxi drivers pounded his fist on the hood and glared at the driver.
What's my point? Well, don't encourage them.[/QUOTE]There is another point regarding to that "faked taxi drivers" in front of Manhattan. And by the way also some of this "black taxis" waiting in front of Judy's now. The moment where you need to be careful and prepared will be, when you come out of the bar with one of the Vietnamese cuties and she suddenly will try to push you in that "illegal taxis". My last pickup there really tried it very hard to bring me in this taxi. This guys have a interesting way to get supported by the girls. Many of this girls use that illegal taxis for come home or even call them to go there. And the guys provide this rides for a low price or even for free, so that in return many of this girls try to "repay" that favor by support them to get some more clients to rip off. So better be prepared to avoid ending up in the taxi before you got clear what happened, especially if you had some beer already in the bar.
Have fun,
P.S: But by the way, to avoid a wrong impression. From the original post it sounds like they are brutal gangsters and perhaps that will cause more worries than necessary. I often talk with this guy and at least most of them are easy going and far away from aggressive against clients or other drivers. Which for sure not is a guarantee that you will not be faced o an asshole, but at least I did not had this experience yet. And even from time to time I book them, which is always funny when we discuss about the price. And when there is not a good business over there, I finally pay 10 more than the taxi would cost, but that is an amount I am willing to spend for the fact, that I don't for example need to wait around in rain or so. And even this guys rip you off, you most probably will not get bankrupt by that mostly. From my view it's not a "big disaster" if you finally need to pay 200 (that's what they mostly try to get as far as I know instead of 20 RMB a taxi for example would charge). But first for most of the guests in Judy's or Manhattan 200 RMB will not really be a big problem and second compared with the taxi fare in Germany, they will finally not even charge more than you would have to pay in Germany for a similar distance. So just take it easy and not worry too much, if you accidentally "tap into that trap". At least we not talk about a rip off like in an illegal massage parlor or Black KTV, where you mostly will loose at least 5 to 10.000 RMB.
[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1947640]
I paid her the 200 and left, feeling scammed, but she had done more than that. When I got to the store to get gifts, I noticed that there were 300 rmbs missing from my wallet. I realized then her trick. By lowering my pants. loose, to my knees and her back towards me and leaning across my belly she completely blocked my view and I would not feel her reaching into the pants pocket to take out my wallet and removed several bills and then put it back. She did not take all or most of the money because then I could not pay or would have noticed when too many bills were missing.
I always think it is much better to go to a sauna where you leave your valuables in the lockers. This is the first time I had money stolen from me in a joint but I doubt that thieving woman invented this pick pocket trick herself. So be careful if someone try that routine on you. I have purposely not do pick up from bars to avoid the risk of having things or money stolen from my place.[/QUOTE]Useful post. People always trying to separate you frrom your money.
In some of the sleazier parts of KL there used to be massage joints where you would put clothes in a drawer under the bed. Of course someone was on the other side of the drawer and after your massage, your wallet would defintely be lighter.
[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1947794]There is another point regarding to that "faked taxi drivers" in front of Manhattan. And by the way also some of this "black taxis" waiting in front of Judy's now. The moment where you need to be careful and prepared will be, when you come out of the bar with one of the Vietnamese cuties and she suddenly will try to push you in that "illegal taxis". My last pickup there really tried it very hard to bring me in this taxi. This guys have a interesting way to get supported by the girls. Many of this girls use that illegal taxis for come home or even call them to go there. And the guys provide this rides for a low price or even for free, so that in return many of this girls try to "repay" that favor by support them to get some more clients to rip off. So better be prepared to avoid ending up in the taxi before you got clear what happened, especially if you had some beer already in the bar.
Have fun,
P.S: But by the way, to avoid a wrong impression. From the original post it sounds like they are brutal gangsters and perhaps that will cause more worries than necessary. I often talk with this guy and at least most of them are easy going and far away from aggressive against clients or other drivers. Which for sure not is a guarantee that you will not be faced o an asshole, but at least I did not had this experience yet. And even from time to time I book them, which is always funny when we discuss about the price. And when there is not a good business over there, I finally pay 10 more than the taxi would cost, but that is an amount I am willing to spend for the fact, that I don't for example need to wait around in rain or so. And even this guys rip you off, you most probably will not get bankrupt by that mostly. From my view it's not a "big disaster" if you finally need to pay 200 (that's what they mostly try to get as far as I know instead of 20 RMB a taxi for example would charge). But first for most of the guests in Judy's or Manhattan 200 RMB will not really be a big problem and second compared with the taxi fare in Germany, they will finally not even charge more than you would have to pay in Germany for a similar distance. So just take it easy and not worry too much, if you accidentally "tap into that trap". At least we not talk about a rip off like in an illegal massage parlor or Black KTV, where you mostly will loose at least 5 to 10.000 RMB.[/QUOTE]In my most recent Manhattan experience (I don't go there often) I got into a fight (physical) with a fake driver and called the police. Please NEVER, EVER support these criminals! They ARE in fact thugs!
[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1947794]
P.S: But by the way, to avoid a wrong impression. From the original post it sounds like they are brutal gangsters and perhaps that will cause more worries than necessary. I often talk with this guy and at least most of them are easy going and far away from aggressive against clients or other drivers. Which for sure not is a guarantee that you will not be faced o an asshole, but at least I did not had this experience yet. And even from time to time I book them, which is always funny when we discuss about the price. And when there is not a good business over there, I finally pay 10 more than the taxi would cost, but that is an amount I am willing to spend for the fact, that I don't for example need to wait around in rain or so. And even this guys rip you off, you most probably will not get bankrupt by that mostly. From my view it's not a "big disaster" if you finally need to pay 200 (that's what they mostly try to get as far as I know instead of 20 RMB a taxi for example would charge). But first for most of the guests in Judy's or Manhattan 200 RMB will not really be a big problem and second compared with the taxi fare in Germany, they will finally not even charge more than you would have to pay in Germany for a similar distance. So just take it easy and not worry too much, if you accidentally "tap into that trap". At least we not talk about a rip off like in an illegal massage parlor or Black KTV, where you mostly will loose at least 5 to 10.000 RMB.[/QUOTE]
I'm almost sorry but I have to say it. This is why I complain about the, "Not the best advice," coming from Shanghai Guide. He has a separate agenda because of his commercial web site. If you think they are not aggressive thugs try refusing to pay their 10 times inflated charges. I did once with an "easy going and far from aggressive driver" who didn't put on his meter and he kept me locked in the cab while he phoned his "nice" buddies for help dealing with me. I decided to do like an Alien and started smashing my way out from inside. When he saw how his car door was buckling out he changed his mind and unlocked it. I gave him the proper fare plus 1 rmb and left.
They are thieving thugs and they are dangerous.
Just a quick update for the Spring Massage. Obviously there are different options available depending on the shop. I have visitied the outlet close to Linping Road few times. They offer an 398 RMB maasage which would include the 20 minutes back massage for the beginning and then girls stripping completly, body to body massage (back & front), fake tongue, BBBJ and HJ. All without any further tips required. This week I tried the shop at Madang Road. Here you get the previously described massage for 278 RMB. You still have to buy the oil and tip the girl. I think overall the offer at Linping Road is better.
Is there any massage available close to Xintiandi that offers BBBJ with CIM? Or at least BBBJ with HJ at the end. Need some place to relax during lunch break.
[QUOTE=FiveAces;1947887] . I did once with an "easy going and far from aggressive driver" who didn't put on his meter and he kept me locked in the cab while he phoned his "nice" buddies for help dealing with me. I decided to do like an Alien and started smashing my way out from inside. When he saw how his car door was buckling out he changed his mind and unlocked it. I gave him the proper fare plus 1 rmb and left.
They are thieving thugs and they are dangerous.[/QUOTE]Interesting, granted, I have not been in Shanghai for 11 months but I used these black taxis 8-10 times and never a problem. Granted they charged me twice the going rate but I agreed to that before I got in. . It was not enough to argue about. I just got the rate established before I got in.
They dropped me off at the hilton which well lighted with a doorman outside. Maybe that was why I had no issue.