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Hi all,
I'm planning to come to Dubai on the 28th of Aug (28 of Ramadan). I heard some unconfirmed information from a friend, that states that Dubai discos and bars don't get back to normal activity till about the 3rd-4th of September (4th day of Eid). Can someone please confirm or deny these claims?
Furthermore, can someone tell me what to expect in the last 1-2 nights of Ramadan? What is the scene like? Best way to pick up girls?
Thanks.
Heading Dubai way on the 30th.
Which is the better place to stay seaview or karama,
Will be looking for Filipino action,
Regards.
M
Hi fellow Mongers,
I am coming from 10. Sep till 10 Oct. 2011 to Dubai, I went through this thread and it is very usefull. I am staying at the International Village in a furnished appartment. Is it a good place to stay? Is it located centrally near the typcal mongers places?
Thank you and see you soon.
Easyease
[QUOTE=Mdbksa; 1189317]Hi getting out of Saudi for eid, plan on staying at the Seaview Hotel,
Any fellow mongers want to meet up for a few cold ones, and show me around, been a few years since I was last in Dubai.
If so PM me, and we can make arrangements.
M[/QUOTE]I will be in Dubai after eid and staying at Seaview. Its a decent hotel for the value. When do you return back to the kingdom?
Its a quick trip just to clean the pipes, I'm in on the 30th and out on the 3rd, just 4 days! When do you arrive?
M.
[QUOTE=MaximusBibicus;1190051]I will be in Dubai after eid and staying at Seaview. Its a decent hotel for the value. When do you return back to the kingdom?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mdbksa; 1190100]Its a quick trip just to clean the pipes, I'm in on the 30th and out on the 3rd, just 4 days! When do you arrive?
M.[/QUOTE]Oh ok. Mine is mid September. I figured that it will be packed during Eid hence why I'm going later.
Gents,
I will be in Dubai mid September and if some fellow mongers want to meet for some drinks I'm up for it.
Thanks,
Max
[QUOTE=Bootie26; 1189390]Hi all,
I'm planning to come to Dubai on the 28th of Aug (28 of Ramadan). I heard some unconfirmed information from a friend, that states that Dubai discos and bars don't get back to normal activity till about the 3rd-4th of September (4th day of Eid). Can someone please confirm or deny these claims?
Furthermore, can someone tell me what to expect in the last 1-2 nights of Ramadan? What is the scene like? Best way to pick up girls?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was there last year the first night after Ramadan, and it was already kickin'.
A rare opportunity for a night out and I check into the Seaview (Dh204 including breakfast, booked direct with the hotel). It's been a hectic week so the plan is to find a PRC or PI lady in the Marines Club in the hotel without too much searching and have an early night.
I first need money so wander along Rolla Street (past that mongering favourite the Dar Al Sondos) to find an ATM. Before I know it, I'm near the Panorama so decide to head to Jockeys for old time's sake. Dh50 entrance including a drink. It's 9. 30pm and the place is near full with the ratio slightly in favour of the girls. It must be 15 years since I first went there and I swear some of the guys are the originals. The ones who used to gather for a pint after work when Jockeys had pretensions of selling itself as nothing more than a quaint drinking hole.
Within minutes PRC Julie attaches herself to me and, despite protestations, that I'm only there for a drink decides its worth staying. One of the attractions of Jockeys is that it is small, so you can quickly survey the scene, and there is a nationality to suit every requirement, including the CIS contingent, still overloooked and marshalled by fearsome looking blonde ladies at the bar, one of whom we used to refer to as T-72 (although that was probably being derogatory to the Russian battle tank).
As I said, I'm in for an easy night and that Julie is near enough to meeting my requirements but (as there's always a danger in deciding too early) want to keep my options open, so take her number, finish my drink and head back to the Seaview (resisting the temptation to go into Stayin' Alive) collecting the usual necessities (condoms, lube and pills) on the way.
Back at the hotel I negotiate the repairs being undertaken in the lobby (meaning you can get to the lifts without being seen by reception) and go through the back door to the club entrance. I'm ready to argue over the entrance fee, but there isn't one! However, the doorman shakes my hand and asks for I'd. Now that is a first for me after decades of visiting Dubai's more interesting establishments. I show him my room key and tell him my passport is with the hotel, but he still sends someone off to reception to check and, while I'm waiting others get the same treatment being told firmly 'No I'd, no entrance'. It's a Ramadan rule he says and applies to everyone (and he means everyone). The messenger returns and I'm admitted, but others are told to go and prove who they are (or, presumably, what faith they are not).
Inside the atmosphere is rather funereal. The lights are up, there's not even muted music and the Marines, looking tatty, is not even half full. I decide I'm not going to stay long (although do actually prefer quieter establishments where you can check out the goods) , but get a pint and peruse what's available.
Usual approaches, but nothing that really gets me interested so I decide to see if Jockeys Julie is still available. She confirms she is and I tell her to report for duty. I finish my pint and wander off to my room and within minutes Julie is at the door (having bypassed reception without hindrance).
Aged 29, been in Dubai 8 months, she was just what I need to shake off the hectic week. Excellent oral skills (although when I'the asked the question when checking the menu on first meeting, there had been some doubt about its availability – presumably a linguistic breakdown).
A morning wake-up session and off she went, very happy with Dh800.
Guys, you probably know that. And you will hate me for reminding it to you all! But hey, I believe you need to hear that. After all, it is Ramadan, a period where our muslim brothers remind us that compassion, integrity and honesty are key to live in an harmonious world.
I went to one of Babylon's (sorry, I mean Dubai's) famous clubs. There was one beautiful Ethiopian woman, she was 22. We agreed on a price and went to my hotel. I had a discussion with her in broken English and she told me her story. A story we all know and should remember more often. That might change our habits and help us to change the world. It certainly was a wake up call for me. I hope it will be for all of you!
This girl, let's call her Tigist, but it is not her real name, comes from a poor Ethiopian family. She went to high school but could not afford university. So she worked to get some money. Because she is poor, because she is beautiful, because she is coming from a developing country, she got approached by someone proposing her to work in Dubai. As a waitress. She arrived two days ago. She met her new "master", her pimp, who took her passport and told her that the job description had slightly changed. Instead of serving beer, she would have to open her legs.
Now Tigist did not want that. She had sex twice before in Ethiopia. But never worked as a prostitute. She is a decent woman.
The problem is that she told her family that she would come back with money. And it is a matter of honour for her to return to Addis with enough cash. And it is likely that her "recruiter" already paid something to her or her family. So she feels bound to stay. And she does not have her passport anyways.
I gave her a relaxing massage (with underwear on) and spent my "paid time" to chat with her and find solutions. I advised her against us all. Told her that she has to call her family and the Ethiopian consulate, hoping she will find some support there. Will she find the courage to do it? I hope so.
But guys, please remember that Tigist is not an isolated case. And remember also that although the story is pretty much the same with all young prostitutes, Ethiopian ones, and to some extent Chinese ones are very vulnerable: they come from poor countries or regions (Chinese girls often come from the countryside) where traffickers are operating in relative impunity (the governments try to act, but have millions of other burning issues. And it just takes a few corrupt officials to spoil the game.
Sorry to spoil your enthusiasm. But we all need to wake up and stop supporting that.
Have a wank, not a hooker!
[QUOTE=Thabanamorena; 1190722]Sorry to spoil your enthusiasm. But we all need to wake up and stop supporting that.
Have a wank, not a hooker![/QUOTE]I fully agree with your views against trafficking but lets be careful how we label things.
I met a young filipina a couple of years ago that was more or less in the same situation.
I helped her out by calling her pimp and firmly demanding her passport or else I would involve the police etc.
The next day I collected the passport myself, along with the girls belongings, booked her a flight to Manila and sent her home with some money.
About a year later, she came back to Dubai on a visit visa arranged by a friend, found herself a job and is now workinga job that pays around 3000 dirhams a month. Not a bad start for a 23 year old filipina.
A few times a month she will go out to a bar and pick up a guy to supplement her regular income. But this is HER choice and no one is forcing her. Big difference between that and her situation before.
I don't support anything that looks like trafficking and by and large most of the girls I've met know what they are doing in Dubai and CHOOSE to be here. I cannot speak much for the underground brothels and AMP places where things may be different, but in most of the bars, the girls I've met all see it as the best opportunity to make the most money in the shortest time with minimal hard work involved.
For example, a decent looking filipina can make 800 AED in a single night.
When you consider that their job prospects limit them to working in malls or the service industry where wages are quite low, being a hooker looks very attractive.
A filipina sales girl in a mall can earn 2, 500 dirhams a month.
A smart and attractive filipina 'hooker' can earn 20, 000 dirhams a month. Easily.
That is WAY more than the average YEARLY income in the Philipines.
I have also met many Chinese girls that also make the same, work as independents with visas they have bought and have built huge houses and own multiple apartments back in China.
One of my favorites even invited me to come and stay in her apartment if I ever visited her part of China.
When I saw pictures of the place, my jaw hit the floor. Very spacious, modern expensive looking with a fantastic view.
Then there is the other darker side.
Years ago, I visited an AMP somewhere in Bur Dubai.
The girl I picked out of the lineup told me that she had been in the same apartment for 3 weeks and was not allowed to leave. She also said they normally had to bang at least 6 guys a day and on busy days that would go up to 10 or 12.
I never went to an AMP again after that.
On the other hand, one must also be aware that many of these girls tell sad stories to extract more cash from you.
Some of them are very talented actresses too! For all you know this Ethiopian girl might have just been playing you like a violin. Think about it. She got your money and a massage and did not have to do anything for you.
Bet you she tries the same with the next monger.
Hard to say really.
Out of interest, does this mean you are not going to pick up hookers any more?
Or perhaps you will just stay away from Chinese and Ethiopian ones?
Maybe you mean we should all avoid hookers from 'poor' countries altogether. That certainly limits our options.
As for me, I'm down to my last few bachelor days and I guess the best I can do is to monger responsibly.
Cheers,
WB
[QUOTE=Mjolnir 213; 1190833]I fully agree with your views against trafficking but lets be careful how we label things.
WB[/QUOTE]I too agree on same lines. Sometime back I got a fili in auh from a provider. Her story been here 2 weeks, paid 20k to the madam have to pay back and anything else is hers. She made the 20k in 4 weeks, and for the other 4 weeks what she made was hers, she liked being with me I guess purely because I didn't treat her like a WG. She did know what she was coming here for. We did discuss about not getting emotionally involved during this time and I was quite impressed with her level of education. She claimed to be a working student. After her stint of 2 months, we bid our farewells and she went back with the intention of continuing her studies, or so I thought. A few months later I get a call from her she is back, so we meet and she is all apologetic about coming back for the same job. She claimed all the money finished with so many people leaning on her etc etc. However she did realize I was not impressed. Her skills were actually very good and to date the best BBBJ / CIM I have had has been from her. I didn't meet her after that and I suspect she is back in fili as I occasionally get a missed call from a fili mobile.
For me personally it would be hard to distinguish from a sop story and a genuine one. If I genuinely feel for the girl and if we sort of hit it off well then I tip generously as and that sort of gives me a good feeling. Hey if I stop bonking thats not going to stop some other guy doing it. So my take on this. While they maybe WGs treating them nice and making them feel human makes a huge difference to their attitude and their life as well and it is certainly well appreciated by them.
Thats my 2 fils worth
Some poor WGs are going to be on the recieving end of 30 days of pent up saudi frustration. I hope there is time for a lull in the market before Gitex takes everything out of whack again.
[QUOTE=Poonhound69;1191857]Some poor WGs are going to be on the recieving end of 30 days of pent up saudi frustration. I hope there is time for a lull in the market before Gitex takes everything out of whack again.[/QUOTE]I Have seen lot of Saudi guys already started hunting for WG around Burdubai.
[QUOTE=Thabanamorena; 1190722]. I advised her against us all. Told her that she has to call her family and the Ethiopian consulate, hoping she will find some support there. Will she find the courage to do it? I hope so.
Have a wank, not a hooker![/QUOTE]It might be the case she will not be treated too nicely at the consulate as those (girls) are kind of diminishing the country's image to the eyes of the civil servants at the consulates, if she comes to talk to an ethiopian guy.
She might be "helped" but then there will be a black mark on her records for having been a prostitute in a foreign countries.
Remember the culture in some countries.