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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1223096]I concur 100. I've seen alot of Europeans get weak on these girls, and the girls do whatever they want. Most Americans aren't trying to set these girls up and wife them. Just look at Casa Linda when it opened, all the European guys set up house with their Dominicanas. Now I see the same girls sitting in El Flow on Friday nights sola. I also think Americans are more selfish and less trusting of serious relationships.[/QUOTE]I Never understand why do guys try to wife up a Girl in Sosua, Remember Guys, these girls are Hookers at the end of the day, They will sleep with anybody that has $40-$50 Dollars.
I find it funny when I'm fucking a chica, she is on the phone telling your Gringo Boyfriend when are you going to send me the money via Western Union and how I miss you and love you, While I'm giving her dick at the same time.
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[QUOTE=Amb832; 1223073]Just a thought. Do some mongers make up fake stories / disgusting stories about a particular chica they like to keep other mongers from getting to her.
I ask this question because my first day (first time in Sosua) I was relaxing at the Rumba checking out the scene drinking a beer. This pretty chica started talking to me, and we exchange numbers and she left. This older gentleman came out of nowhere to my table (I don't know this guy, never seen him before) and he was saying don't talk to her, she can't fuck, she got crabs, blah, blah, blah. I started to get pissed at the fact he was annoying me and I wasn't even planning on doing anything with her or even calling her. He noticed and left.
The next day I was just randomly walking down the street and I seen him at El Flow's hugging and kissing the same chica he bad mouth yesterday. She saw me and waved, and he gave me this crazy look, took her and turned her around so she was looking the opposite direction I was at.
Is it really that crucial?[/QUOTE]Probably he was mad at her and wanted to stop her earning any money. I doubt whether he was an innocent lovesick puppy if he was hanging out with her at a dump like El Flow.
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1223096]I concur 100. I've seen alot of Europeans get weak on these girls, and the girls do whatever they want. Most Americans aren't trying to set these girls up and wife them. Just look at Casa Linda when it opened, all the European guys set up house with their Dominicanas. Now I see the same girls sitting in El Flow on Friday nights sola. I also think Americans are more selfish and less trusting of serious relationships.[/QUOTE]From being a kept mistress to sitting at El Flow is a major fall from grace, so they must have screwed up badly. El Flow seems to have a monopoly on ugly women and in all the years I have been to Sosua I have never extracted a woman from there.
Sosua is like a village where everyone knows everyone else, and these chicas often juggle a number of roles, prostitute, parent, daughter, tenant, employee, amiga, student, housekeeper, and so on. The casual visitor just sees them at work, but it is a mistake to think that sex work in the DR is like a regulated profession in the US with a mission statement, professional license, code of conduct, etc. Although the level of sexual service is mostly good, it is not very professional, and chicas often allow their personal lives to spill over into the workplace.
There are many retired men in Sosua from all over the world. Some are physicians, or educators who still retain professional assessment skills and take an interest in the lives of the young people whom they fuck and do actually try to help them improve their lives. Others are just drunks and addicts who are even more mixed up than the chicas they hang out with and incapable of offering them anything. Either way, if you know someone over a period of time, they become more than a pussy vending machine.
The casual visitor sees little of this, but when in doubt, it is best just to move on and hail another chica. There is no shortage at all.
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[QUOTE=Frannie;1223200]Sosua is like a village where everyone knows everyone else, and these chicas often juggle a number of roles, prostitute, parent, daughter, tenant, employee, amiga, student, housekeeper, and so on. The casual visitor just sees them at work, but it is a mistake to think that sex work in the DR is like a regulated profession in the US with a mission statement, professional license, code of conduct, etc. Although the level of sexual service is mostly good, it is not very professional, and chicas often allow their personal lives to spill over into the workplace.[/QUOTE]But I would say that the multiple identities you cite is true everywhere. I know a young woman who has become a mom for the third time with no idea of how life would evolve from the basement it is in. And life goes on mostly thanks to state aid and the age old profession which is obviously shot at this phase given the physical demands of maternity. When one is obsessed with survival in general with no back up, I perfectly understand why personal and professional would be intertwined.
Without an education, and the upbringing, all women behave more or less in the primordial way (heck; Men too!) i.e., roles they were assigned: Eat, breed, die, not that the brights have any better outcome but I do not want to get into Socrates.
And, speaking of professionalism, I think many here are trying to get away from the so-called "professionalism" as it is nothing but a jaded personality without the scintilla. My two cents.
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[QUOTE=Amb832; 1223073]Just a thought. Do some mongers make up fake stories / disgusting stories about a particular chica they like to keep other mongers from getting to her.
I ask this question because my first day (first time in Sosua) I was relaxing at the Rumba checking out the scene drinking a beer. This pretty chica started talking to me, and we exchange numbers and she left. This older gentleman came out of nowhere to my table (I don't know this guy, never seen him before) and he was saying don't talk to her, she can't fuck, she got crabs, blah, blah, blah. I started to get pissed at the fact he was annoying me and I wasn't even planning on doing anything with her or even calling her. He noticed and left.
The next day I was just randomly walking down the street and I seen him at El Flow's hugging and kissing the same chica he bad mouth yesterday. She saw me and waved, and he gave me this crazy look, took her and turned her around so she was looking the opposite direction I was at.
Is it really that crucial?[/QUOTE]I would have jammed my cock in her mouth and taken a pic just to show the guy, but that is me.
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[QUOTE=Frannie; 1223200]From being a kept mistress to sitting at El Flow is a major fall from grace, so they must have screwed up badly. El Flow seems to have a monopoly on ugly women and in all the years I have been to Sosua I have never extracted a woman from there.
Sosua is like a village where everyone knows everyone else, and these chicas often juggle a number of roles, prostitute, parent, daughter, tenant, employee, amiga, student, housekeeper, and so on. The casual visitor just sees them at work, but it is a mistake to think that sex work in the DR is like a regulated profession in the US with a mission statement, professional license, code of conduct, etc. Although the level of sexual service is mostly good, it is not very professional, and chicas often allow their personal lives to spill over into the workplace.
There are many retired men in Sosua from all over the world. Some are physicians, or educators who still retain professional assessment skills and take an interest in the lives of the young people whom they fuck and do actually try to help them improve their lives. Others are just drunks and addicts who are even more mixed up than the chicas they hang out with and incapable of offering them anything. Either way, if you know someone over a period of time, they become more than a pussy vending machine.
The casual visitor sees little of this, but when in doubt, it is best just to move on and hail another chica. There is no shortage at all.[/QUOTE]You make good points. But I don't know if its a "Fall from grace" as you say. The two situations that I personally know about are very simular. They live in Casa Linda houses and each has one child by a German guy. The girls are sent money every month and don't walk the street tricking in Sosua. I dated a girl who stayed in a guest house by the pool, it was a very nice apartment. Most of the time the girls were hanging out drinking by the pool telling their "I'm Lonely" stories. I'm seeing this Dominicana with a nice home with a pool and she doesn't have to work, but she fantasizes about sitting in El Flow drinking and listening to music.
Personally I think Dominicanas are to be enjoyed not married. Sure, its okay to play house until they fuck up, but after they fuck up (which they will) just go get a new model. The culture is based on spoiling the Dominican male, why would I want to marry a girl who is brainwashed to believe this? My best female friend here in the states is Dominicana. She is beautiful and sweet but she can't maintain a longterm relationship because she opens her legs to fast. She always has someone on standby ready to step in. I'm sure there are some good girls in the DR that would make great wives, but for me they are to be enjoyed, not married.
I'm 40ish but I'm buying into the Charles Pooter method. A private pool party at 70yo with ten hot young girls doesn't sound bad to me.
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[QUOTE=Frannie;1223200]El Flow seems to have a monopoly on ugly women and in all the years I have been to Sosua I have never extracted a woman from there.[/QUOTE]Frannie in all due respect it is obvious you haven't spent enough time in El Flow to know what the deal is there. Most of the girls that go into El Flow go in there when they don't want to mingle with gringos and want to hang out with their fellow locals and party. The girls sitting outside are a mix of hardcore putas and some that are not but inside of the place most of the girls in there want nothing to do with a gringo. If you have the balls to go inside and hang there for a while you will see plenty of hot girls going through there but they aren't looking for customers, you will get shot down more than you will succeed. Most gringos I see going there usually sit outside and if they venture inside feel like a fish out of water and leave after two minutes because they don't feel comfortable. I go in there regularly and know all the waitresses and bartenders and I still get a dirty look from time to time from someone that doesn't know me but for the most part I go there to drink and dance and don't make an ass out of myself (other than my lousy dancing) hitting on the women in there.
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What about the monger who knows the history of the chica as for being a work girl falls in love cause she fucks good and wife her up? Or a monger that picks up a chica from an area that has a bad reputation for working girls and wife her up cause she fucks good? Then the monger gets mad at the other monger because she's being friendly with them or he finds out they're banging his so called wifey. Instead of getting mad at the chica and dealing with her he gets mad at the guy who just being friendly or didn't know she was somebody's wifey.
Just wondering if some mongers get jealous of other mongers banging their favorite girl/wifey or was my situation just a rare incident?
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[QUOTE=Amb832; 1223243]What about the monger who knows the history of the chica as for being a work girl falls in love cause she fucks good and wife her up? Or a monger that picks up a chica from an area that has a bad reputation for working girls and wife her up cause she fucks good? Then monger gets mad at the other monger because she's being friendly with them or he finds out they're banging his so called wifey instead of getting mad at the chica and dealing with her.
Just wondering if some mongers get jealous of other mongers banging their favorite girl or was my situation just a rare incident?[/QUOTE]Thats why you don't marry them. Marriage is to personal and private to choose an ex working girl. My kids are my heirs not a new piece of pussy. Why do people put such a premium on being married? Marriage would make me go to jail if I trusted a woman with everything and she betrayed me. Just stay single and keep your options open.
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[QUOTE=Amb832; 1223243]What about the monger who knows the history of the chica as for being a work girl falls in love cause she fucks good and wife her up? Or a monger that picks up a chica from an area that has a bad reputation for working girls and wife her up cause she fucks good? Then the monger gets mad at the other monger because she's being friendly with them or he finds out they're banging his so called wifey. Instead of getting mad at the chica and dealing with her he gets mad at the guy who just being friendly or didn't know she was somebody's wifey.
Just wondering if some mongers get jealous of other mongers banging their favorite girl / wifey or was my situation just a rare incident?[/QUOTE]In these cases this is not a true monger you are talking about. This sounds like a love-sick puppy. A true monger doesn't get tied down just because a girl fucks good. For a true monger a woman fucking good is the general standard or benchmark. If she is not fucking good then he would have her out the door faster than dirt could get on the rug. A true monger will offer a girl to his wingman when he finishes with her. A true monger will ask to borrow the girl when his wingman finishes with her. A true monger doesn't mind his wingman fucking a girl the same time he does.
It reminds me of a story from college. I met a girl who was working at Taco Bell. Her dad was black and her mom was from Guam. Now there were four of us living in a two bedroom apartment. I had my air mattress in the dining room and another room mate had his in the living room. So I took the girl to my best friend's bedroom. He got home and came in his room and saw us fucking and he said, Ohhh, I'm next. Then he went out and closed the door. I talked to the girl and I said well this is his room anyway and he called next, so what is up? She was okay with it so I called him back in and we double teamed her. And if that wasn't enough, before I went to take the girl home another room mate showed up. He rode with me to take her home and fucked her in the back seat while I was driving. Those were the days.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1223284]In these cases this is not a true monger you are talking about. This sounds like a love-sick puppy. A true monger doesn't get tied down just because a girl fucks good. For a true monger a woman fucking good is the general standard or benchmark. If she is not fucking good then he would have her out the door faster than dirt could get on the rug. A true monger will offer a girl to his wingman when he finishes with her. A true monger will ask to borrow the girl when his wingman finishes with her. A true monger doesn't mind his wingman fucking a girl the same time he does.
It reminds me of a story from college. I met a girl who was working at Taco Bell. Her dad was black and her mom was from Guam. Now there were four of us living in a two bedroom apartment. I had my air mattress in the dining room and another room mate had his in the living room. So I took the girl to my best friend's bedroom. He got home and came in his room and saw us fucking and he said, Ohhh, I'm next. Then he went out and closed the door. I talked to the girl and I said well this is his room anyway and he called next, so what is up? She was okay with it so I called him back in and we double teamed her. And if that wasn't enough, before I went to take the girl home another room mate showed up. He rode with me to take her home and fucked her in the back seat while I was driving. Those were the days.[/QUOTE]Man you are crazy dude. I guess I'm not a mongerer then, because I want all the pussy for myself. But then I can be conceited at times. But if you are my trusted wingman and I can go first always then I might share LOL.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1223284]In these cases this is not a true monger you are talking about. This sounds like a love-sick puppy. A true monger doesn't get tied down just because a girl fucks good. For a true monger a woman fucking good is the general standard or benchmark. If she is not fucking good then he would have her out the door faster than dirt could get on the rug. A true monger will offer a girl to his wingman when he finishes with her. A true monger will ask to borrow the girl when his wingman finishes with her. A true monger doesn't mind his wingman fucking a girl the same time he does.
It reminds me of a story from college. I met a girl who was working at Taco Bell. Her dad was black and her mom was from Guam. Now there were four of us living in a two bedroom apartment. I had my air mattress in the dining room and another room mate had his in the living room. So I took the girl to my best friend's bedroom. He got home and came in his room and saw us fucking and he said, Ohhh, I'm next. Then he went out and closed the door. I talked to the girl and I said well this is his room anyway and he called next, so what is up? She was okay with it so I called him back in and we double teamed her. And if that wasn't enough, before I went to take the girl home another room mate showed up. He rode with me to take her home and fucked her in the back seat while I was driving. Those were the days.[/QUOTE]Yeah alot of Mongers don't know how to have emotionless sex. These Chicas are good for banging and thats it, If your looking for anything beyond that your asking for trouble.
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To each his own
There is no one way to monger. We can choose who and how we monger. I respect how you roll but it is not my style. I like the GFE treatment. The wam bam is easy and requires nothing but cash. No magic!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1223284]In these cases this is not a true monger you are talking about. This sounds like a love-sick puppy. A true monger doesn't get tied down just because a girl fucks good. For a true monger a woman fucking good is the general standard or benchmark. If she is not fucking good then he would have her out the door faster than dirt could get on the rug. A true monger will offer a girl to his wingman when he finishes with her. A true monger will ask to borrow the girl when his wingman finishes with her. A true monger doesn't mind his wingman fucking a girl the same time he does.
It reminds me of a story from college. I met a girl who was working at Taco Bell. Her dad was black and her mom was from Guam. Now there were four of us living in a two bedroom apartment. I had my air mattress in the dining room and another room mate had his in the living room. So I took the girl to my best friend's bedroom. He got home and came in his room and saw us fucking and he said, Ohhh, I'm next. Then he went out and closed the door. I talked to the girl and I said well this is his room anyway and he called next, so what is up? She was okay with it so I called him back in and we double teamed her. And if that wasn't enough, before I went to take the girl home another room mate showed up. He rode with me to take her home and fucked her in the back seat while I was driving. Those were the days.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=OldKool;1223310]There is no one way to monger. We can choose who and how we monger. I respect how you roll but it is not my style. I like the GFE treatment. The wam bam is easy and requires nothing but cash. No magic![/QUOTE]Any kind of mongering only requires cash! And in most places the more cash you have to give, the more GFE treatment you can get. You can pay $10 to a crack head for a wam bam, or you can call a high-end escort for $1000 if you want to spend a few hours together and imagine you two are love birds. I don't think a few minutes with a crack head leads to illusion as does a GFE which often times tend to make a monger lose his mind and start sending money and shit when not sessioning. See Richard Gere in Brooklyn's Finest where after so many years of going to the same hooker and being disillusioned he finally asked her to marry him. She looked at him like he was crazy and told him it was just business/money, not love/magic.
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[QUOTE=G2C83; 1223006]Hi guys,
Am going to be hitting up Sosua for 10 days over Christmas. Now I don't have any Spanish, is this going to really screw up my trip?
Also, I've been reading about paying for ST and the chicks just shooting off after you bust a nut, I aint planning on this happening. What I want to do is pay half up front and the other half when the 2 hours is up? Do you reckon this could work?[/QUOTE]It has been said again and again. You do NOT need Spanish for a place like Sosua; however, it can significantly improve your experience. Also, you pay when the deed is done. That is the rule. Walk if the girls even mentions anything else.