I was surprised to find out that some of these girls not only leave with a few other
"colleagues" and mamasan, but also share a bed, sleeping next to each other (4 of them). She said that she gets so tired in the morning that she doesnt care.
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I was surprised to find out that some of these girls not only leave with a few other
"colleagues" and mamasan, but also share a bed, sleeping next to each other (4 of them). She said that she gets so tired in the morning that she doesnt care.
[Quote] "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." [Evil P]
Don't make it personal, Evil P. Not so long ago many people in Boston walked around with badges saying "Support the IRA". I'm sure most British people, who'd had hundreds of their compatriotes blown up by the Republicans, found this unpleasant. But it wasn't an insult. Not any more than an Arab person these days deciding Osama is a hero and W is a criminal. You and I might agree that such persons are seriously misguided, but... their strong emotions are hardly conjured up to insult us.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel] Actually, I probably never would have walked into the Grace back in 2005 if I'd have known the customer base had shifted so decisively. I've been down some dark alleys in my time and poked my nose in a lot of weird places, but never, never, ever have I stared into so many Charles Manson eyes as I did that night at the Grace. The hatred was so thick you could bottle it. I definitely felt my presence wasn't appreciated.[/QUOTE]Evil P - your poetic licence has expired! Hand it in pardner, as well as your John Wayne badge. ;)
(Trivia fact: - John Wayne's real first name was Marion - what a girlie. :))
Living and working with many Arabs every day, I probably wouldn't blink if I walked into Grace and found it full of Arabs, and certainly wouldn't feel threatened. I work with educated Arabs/Moslems, who are more refined, tolerant and non-racist than most educated Westeners I know.
In my "secret life" late at nights, I often rumble (sometimes literally!) in Grace-like places with working class, tough-looking Arabs/Moslems, who are actually friendly, generous and gentle men (and f*cking good pool players!). All are welcoming of westerners.
Of course, there's always an extremist minority in any religion/race (look at Mel Gibson and his old man's bizarre sect).
I tried visiting Grace last October, prompted by one of your vivid and colorful posts on the fine establishment, but it was closed for renovations - has it re-opened yet?
I hear the Russian/CIS girls in BKK just don't compare to some of the stunners in Dubai. C'mon over one day for a look-see!
Since all my trips to Thailand are spent with the family in Pattaya, when in Bangkok my time there is short basically in Transit. Arrivals are usually on NW or Cathay so time in transit could be 8 hrs to 24 hrs before heading to Pattaya. My stays now have been narrow down to staying at Nana Hotel although I could afford a little more somewhere else. This keeps me close to the train and everything else within walking distant especially the massages legal or not. But the 4 main reason I stay at the Nana, not in specific order of importants! The Bus Stop, The pork chop at the Nana resturant, the all you can eat breakfast that comes with the room plus newspaper and finally the Angel Disco at the hotel.
The Disco more than the parking lot has been somewhat of a jackpot during my last few visit. Although the entry fee has gone up to 500 baht, I look at it no more than a bar fine for a girl. I get a drink with the entry and I get to listen to some good disco music, sit, drink, and watch the ladies come in and out and dance. Personally my last few visit at the disco the girls seem to be getting better and better. My last trip before and after Pattaya there seem to be a group of girls that come in around 11pm that included some hotties.
The biggest drawback is that I don't like to negotiate price and most of the hotties wanted 3,000 baht which I decline and ended up taken my second choice or 3rd choices for 1500 Baht. But I never have had any regrets because the 2nd and 3rd choices have been great!
Does anyone who visits the disco have the same reaction. And last being at the Nana affords me less time getting back to another hotel. Out the disco and up the elevator to the room.
My next transit stop will be October 25, 26,? See ya at the disco!
Piper1,
Yes, the Grace disco has re-opened. You can find middle eastern, uzbek and uzbek/russian girls (blame it on the direct Tashkent-BKK flight). Some of the russian girls looked like from the southern CIS (at least they looked different from those in Moscow). I noticed a couple of decent quality russian girls, unfortunately, good items disappear fast. I agree with you that the average quality is not comparable to that in Dubai, neither is the average price.
As for the atmosphere in Grace, I didnt find it intimidating, though I dont look like a Harvard MBA graduate. I agree with Evil Penivel that some men in the Grace look at you in a somewhat different, unusual way (I wouldnt say hostile, though), but since you have worked with Arabs, you dont need an advice from the rookie like me.
LitleBigMan said "Does anyone who visits the disco have the same reaction."
Yep. In fact, your second paagraph pretty much described exactly what I expect the two nights I will be spending in Nana Hotle later this month to be like, because that is what the last few nights I stayed the were like.
I only went in the Grace Disco once, and that was two years ago so attitudes may have changed, but I felt no hostility whatsoever. Mostly curiosity. However, i was bored and left after an hour.
have been here in bangkok for almost a week so far and nothing new in particular to report other than the usual pit stops of infamy. on all my previous trips here i have the normal two weeks to get in all the fun that my body and mind could manage and by the time i finally dragged my hurting body on to the plane i am ready for a 20 hour flight in which sex is not possible, but this time around i am in for a longer haul – around five to six months in which i plan to spend a big chunk of it in thailand and bits and pieces in other locations around asia. so i am approaching this trip with a very different sexual perspective – partly because my limited budget dictates that to some degree and also because i want this to feel more like a “normal” life except that i get laid every now and then with young attractive women. so it’s no longer an all-day hunt with my nose to the ground in search of my next interlude - no longer scouring the sidewalks of sukhumit at four in the morning looking for one last desperate score before i turn off the lights for good. now i go to the movies, do a little shopping, take long walks, go swimming, get in some reading, hit a few tourist spots that i have avoided for years – all without thinking that i am wasting time that could be better spent looking for the next one – the next perfect small body, the next giggle under the sheets, the next “where you come from”, the next reluctant blow job, the next widening of eyes upon entry, the next release, the next enduring memory.
still i am in bangkok and so have been indulging from time to time in my favorite sport other than baseball. i plead guilty to being more than mundane in my search criteria – i am a victim of the sukhumvit circle – a sucking vortex that keeps me a prisoner between the small boundaries of nana at one end and soi cowboy at the other end and of course all that lies between. in the past i have rarely wandered outside of this mental playground and never really felt the need to – if you can’t find what you need sexually here to keep you happy for two weeks you need counseling. but this time i am hoping to break out of this imaginary force field but need to do some research in these pages to see what else is available (other than patpong which i gave up on years ago). there must be lots but few seem to write about it.
so thus far i have just been doing the usual rounds – the nana disco, the nana parking lot, the beer garden, grace hotel, nana plaza, the thermae and of course the streets that at certain times of the night just come alive with the moving, pulsing forms of willing flesh. mixed results and impressions so far. i haven’t been overwhelmed by the quality for the most part – so many of the girls look tired, shop worn and fearful that time is catching up with them. time doesn’t treat many of these girls kindly. i have come across two women that i went with back in the mid-90’s – both of them adorable back then – incredibly full of life and at the top of their game. i would have to guess that they can’t be more than their early 30’s at the most now but both could easily be mistaken for forty and not a good gong li forty. it breaks my heart to see this – the ones that get left behind, that never find that falang in the sky, that never go home, that never got out of the life when they could have and are now sentenced to this forever or as long as they can still occasionally find that drunk customer who sees them through a haze of alcohol - but most nights i see them sitting alone at the bars thinking perhaps this will be the night when they recapture their youth again even if just for a short few hours - before finally trekking home as the light begins to creep out and thinking that tomorrow will be different – an old lover will show up and still think of them as they once were when the whole world seemed to be their oyster.
i was coming across so few women that made my gonads dance that i was wondering if i had lost my taste for thai women – but then today i spent a few hours in the mbk plaza mall and damn just one hottie after another – hundreds of them coming at you in waves – all far out of reach of course but at least i knew it wasn’t my taste that has changed. if mbk was a giant brothel i would never leave. so here is a brief report on my sexual doings as few as they are up to this point.
the first day i got in around 4:30 in the afternoon and crashed for hours before waking up to get to the nana disco by midnight. it is much calmer in there this time around – fewer women, fewer customers. it used to be nearly impossible to maneuver around after midnight it was so crowded but not so far in my 3-4 ventures in there. entry fee is 400 baht with a drink thrown into the deal. hard to guess how many women are inside – 70, 80? maybe more, maybe less? just less than there used to be and many fewer standouts. they stand on the sides or wiggle on the dance floor while others sit at tables and look unapproachable. i can’t figure out the table sitters. they never look at all interested in finding a customer – just sit with their friends and drink and laugh and never glance around. i found two friends on the side and took them upstairs – 1500 each – both 22 and decent but not great. one i had been with 2 years ago and she had put on a great show for me then but now she showed a surprising lack of willing intimacy – didn’t want to kiss and wasn’t particularly keen to bj without a condom. in fact, when it was her turn to do so she picked up her friend and placed her gently on my face so that i couldn’t see her mild attempts at engaging me orally. still i finished with the friend and sent them on their way. every night they want a repeat but i just shake my head no – in the case of a raging thunderstorm and no one else being around it’s a possibility but only then.
the next night i hit thermae and after hearing a few positive reports on this board i had hopes that it was returning to its days of glory, but the pickings were mediocre – not even as good as it was 2-3 years ago when they had a coterie of young sweeties who hung out around the jukebox and danced. i remember doing every single one of them over one trip, but they have moved on i guess. there were some 7’s among the crowd but the vast majority would be 4’s and 5’s. last night i returned again and was eyeing up a group of four attractive friends who showed up – not bad at all – and then a couple young japanese guys showed up and these girls went all a fritter as if they were in the presence of rock stars – and they were all over them like a wet blanket and i moved on knowing i wasn’t going to be with any of them that night. i will continue to check it out from time to time to see what drags itself on shore, but i don’t have high hopes. i made it back to the nana disco and found myself a good one – tip – a little sweetie from issan whose wide smile i could see clear across the room and upon closer inspection i discovered these big brown eyes that made my knees buckle. she gave me a smile and i was helpless. it turned out to be a terrific choice – extremely friendly and loves being touched and kissed deeply. much to my surprise she turned out to have a lovely pair of breasts that had remained well hidden in her attire. after spending considerable time paying attention to them, she accused me of choosing her only because of her breasts – not true but now that i have them i plan to give them the proper respect they deserve. i took her the following night as well and went looking tonight but she wasn’t around – i have to be careful with this one or i could get hooked.
i have breezed through a couple of the go-go bars in nana plaza but have taken nothing out yet. with my budget i can’t afford it often and will try and keep it to once a week at most. rainbow ii had a lot of cuties and after catching the eye of one diminutive young thing on the dance stage who showed some promising cleavage i quickly paid my bill off and cleared out before she got off the stage and came over – there was no way i could have said no to that. one other night i went up to the hollywood bar on the third floor – at least that’s what i think it is called – just go up the stairs on the left and keep going up. it was my favorite place last year for just viewing the girls who actually seem to be having fun compared to most of the go-go bars where they tend to stare vacantly out and hop from one foot to the other in an imitation of dance. i only did one pair from there last year and it wasn’t very satisfactory. i liked their attire as well – short skirts with loose white unbuttoned shirts that allowed the occasional glimpse of a lonesome nipple. now they have put pasties on and take off the shirts – not nearly as sexy actually but certainly it leaves little mystery about the size, shape and firmness of their breasts. there were a lot of girls that met my basic criteria – small, cute, flat stomachs, firm and young. i will definitely be back and have a few in mind already. the cost i was told by the mamasan was 600 bar fine and 2000 for the girl. once a week sounds about right for me.
i haven’t taken any from the beer garden either and in fact have had no afternoon trysts so far. i think i have swung by too early because there has been nothing i have seen that made me even stop to have a drink - a quick walk around and out the door. but i know from past experience that you can hit days like this and then all of a sudden you come across a cutie that feels like a floating mirage in the desert. and since i am not a message parlor guy or a likely candidate for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s this is still one of the few afternoon places to find something. i am slowly in the process of collecting phone numbers from the good ones and will use those to fill in some lazy rainy afternoons.
the nana parking lot has been the source of my other finds so far. the parking lot is an odd collection of women – many that just have no right being in the business and others that are pretty damn fine. they start collecting in the early evening and as the night approaches midnight it gets busier. in fact, i love hanging out on the front street there and just watching the world go by – the girls, the guys, the farang women, the flower sellers, the touts, the food vendors – all weaving in and out in this fascinating collage of life that feels like it should be painted by toulouse-lautrec – captured somehow for posterity. “darling where you go”, “how much you want short time”, “up to you” conversations float around like balloons waiting to be popped. there may be no place like it in the world and i love to just breath in the sounds, smells and sights and let them seep into my brain. i wish i had a giant tv screen at home in which i could watch the action unfold every night. the best looking ones line up on the sidewalk outside in front of the hotel – almost all with dyed blonde hair and in their early 20’s and looking fit and fun. guys walk by, chat for a bit, bargain and move on because the girls all seem to be asking for 1500 baht. even the young japanese usually put up one finger for 1,000 and then move away. eventually though someone gives penance to their price and off they go. i did myself. for two of them. two nice ones who turned out to be knockouts in the nude – you never really know till that moment of truth and i have found myself trying to get aroused in front of slumping breasts and stretch marks more times than i want to guess. but these two were close to perfect – small of course in frame but oversized in beautiful breasts – one with large dark nipples that always rattles my cage. unfortunately, their performance didn’t quite live up to the promise – one didn’t want boom boom because she was too small and i was too big she said – sure big, like a white lie. the other didn’t want to smoke – so i would have to be smoked by one and be boom boomed by the other. ok. maybe i should have renegotiated at that point but my penis was quickly in the one girl’s mouth and it just didn’t seem like the right time to bring up the subject. still in the end both were very good at what they agreed to do and fairly sweet in nature and so i just paid them off. tonight i ended up with the bj point person again – i asked her how she could possibly do other farang (who believe me are much larger than i am on average i would guess) and she told me she usually only went with japanese. well she promised me some boom boom tonight if i took her – “only little little please”. ok – i am more of a bj guy than a boom boom guy anyway – but it all turned out to be true – she was incredibly small and as much as i tried to enter her i just wasn’t able to without pain appearing in her eyes and after a few minutes i gave up the ghost and settled for a lengthy and satisfying oral fix. they go by em and cookie – “good to eat” she told me. there was another one from the front i went with – a tiny girl – and that was decent though she complained that i was taking too long – which was true – but she never gave up trying but at some point i did. there are just times like that. she was only 1.000 baht.
and that’s it for now - six days, six different girls, two doubles – nothing to be proud of but this time it isn’t a race to the finish line but a long marathon for me. i will be interested to see if the simple joy of being around these women begins to wear thin over time – will i hit periods when all i want is to be on my own and away from it all – go weeks without any. i guess i will find out but for now it’s not bad at all and the thought of doing this for the next many months makes me feel very relaxed. “you happy?” one girl asked after finishing. ya so far i am.
so any suggestions thrown my way of other places to hit are welcome. also, in front of the nana after 2am a bunch of guys always try and get me to go to after hours clubs but i don’t know anything about them and don’t want to get ripped off. are these worth the effort? also anyone know a good place in the sukhumvit area that sells good breakfast baked goods - cinnamon croissants and butterflies - there was a place in the nana plaza last year but its gone.
Nice report. Both the Marriott and Landmark hotels sell a good selection of the baked goods you are looking for....a little pricey.
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[QUOTE=DRRonin]Also, in front of the Nana after 2am a bunch of guys always try and get me to go to after hours clubs but I don’t know anything about them and don’t want to get ripped off. Are these worth the effort? [/QUOTE]
The usual ones in that area are Sin bar, almost opposite Annies, but closer to Soi 4, walk through a door and go straight up some stairs, and also the Rooftop Bar or garden, on top of Sukhumvit Plaza, which is on the opposite side of Sukhumvit before you get to soi 1.
Both are pricey, but not rip off places, I personally would find them on my own rather than go with a tout. There are touts in cowboy that want to take you to a bar near MBK that they say has FL's and disco and pool tables, never been, couldn’t work out quite where, they said it was a Thai place but very farrang friendly, the guy wanted to take us there in a taxi, but we had a car, he had no problem coming alone with us 4 guys in our car, but the one of our group was overly sceptical so we didn't go, really don’t know if this is a rip off, or a genuine place that send touts out for commission.
Hey guys,
I'm off to Bangkok next year and want to know prices?
What should i pay for:
1) full service in my hotel till mroning.
2) short time in hotel room.
3) massage time.
A very nice report. I like your writing style. Keep on!
Things get better here after Jackson has moved most of the Kindergarten to the Thailand fight club.
[QUOTE=Spank You Too]Hey guys,
I'm off to Bangkok next year and want to know prices?
What should i pay for:
1) full service in my hotel till mroning.
2) short time in hotel room.
3) massage time.[/QUOTE]
Sorry guys, but he is so sincere (with 6+ posts, I don't know where) I have to answer this.
1. 6,000 - 8,000B plus tips + breakfast + taxi money
2. 3,000-5,000 B plus tips plus Taxi money
3. 2,000 - 3,000 B per 30 minutes rounded to the next 30 minutes.
4. Spanking the monkey in LOS - priceless
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Sorry guys, but he is so sincere (with 6+ posts, I don't know where) I have to answer this.
1. 6,000 - 8,000B plus tips + breakfast + taxi money
2. 3,000-5,000 B plus tips plus Taxi money
3. 2,000 - 3,000 B per 30 minutes rounded to the next 30 minutes.
4. Spanking the monkey in LOS - priceless[/QUOTE]
Duniawala;
You cheap Charlie! I never pay less than 10,000 baht for an all nighter! lol!
AT2
[QUOTE=Spank You Too]I'm off to Bangkok next year and want to know prices?[/QUOTE]
So spend the next 4 months RTFF !! Come on, help us to help you, the prices today and the prices next year will probably change (allbeit slightly, but thats not the piont). With 4 months before arrival you have plenty of time to give the threads a good scan and without doubt answer your own questions. In fact if you bothered to scroll down and read DRRonins excellent post (on this page) he answers 2 of your questions.
MP prices vary so much from 800 baht for 2hrs, to 25,000 baht for 1.5 hrs depending on who and where. Seriously :rolleyes: