Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]OMG. Where have you been? CIA took out a Democratically elected leader in Ukraine in 2014. [/QUOTE]Oh? Please tell me more how "CIA took out a Democratically elected leader in Ukraine in 2014. " I'm really interested how you're going to back up this BS.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]Do you not remember "Yats is our guy" and "Fuck the EU"? [/QUOTE]No, I do not. Please elaborate (and oh yeah, back this up too).

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]Ukraine is not all sweet, little, and innocent. Since 2014, they have been trying to partner up with a bigger bully, us. [/QUOTE]No it's not sweet and innocent. Hence what -- bomb away?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]Because you are a Dem, [/QUOTE]I'm not a 'Dem' but please don't let this little detail slow you down.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]you think Ukrainegate and Russiagate were no big deal. [/QUOTE]As in Ukrainegate being Trump's attempt to pressure Ukraine into digging up dirt on his political rival? The one that led to his impeachment?

As in Russiagate being Putin's successful bid to install his puppet into the WH in 2016?

Gee, I don't know why you'd think so. They were a 'big deal" indeed.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]Giving aid to Ukrainian Nazis to harass and kill Russian nationals in Eastern Ukraine? Saying Putin rigged the 2016 election? Russian bots? The CIA and military advisers training Ukrainian soldiers? Ukraine Joining NATO? Shutting off water to Crimea? Investigating Peegate? The whole Steele Dossier?[/QUOTE]Now you're lumping together all your bullshit datapoints, and it's getting illegible. Not the first time you've developed complete incoherence by the end of your post. Hey, here's a simple solution. Brevity.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715535]Do you have anything that works between your ears?[/QUOTE]Yes I do.

You?

Wait, don't bother.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2715441]Beautifully stated.[/QUOTE]Totally agreed!

XPartan is an Israeli shill. They are hired by Mossad to jam up online discussions worldwide. He proves this by showing total ignorance of the facts you outlined and asking you to reply to his undiluted nonsense. The pig has nothing to contribute.

There have been major developments overnight but this pig's job is to keep everyone in the dark.

If you fancy banging the widows of Azov fighters, rooms are to be had in Kiev on [URL]booking.com[/URL].

Anyway, happy 4 July to those captured American mercenaries. Enjoy your apple pie before you die.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2715615]Oh? Please tell me more how "CIA took out a Democratically elected leader in Ukraine in 2014. " I'm really interested how you're going to back up this BS.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2715615]Oh? Please tell me more how "CIA took out a Democratically elected leader in Ukraine in 2014. " I'm really interested how you're going to back up this BS.

No, I do not. Please elaborate (and oh yeah, back this up too).[/QUOTE]Nah, I just made it up.

Honestly, I do not want to overload you. You and John Clayton are trapped in the cult of the Democratic party. The facts and marching orders can be confusing. Hell, John still believes in Russiagate and peegate. John, do you have a mother who can tell you what is real and make believe? Do you cry yourself to sleep saying, "I know Russiagate is real, mommy, I know it. ".

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2715615]Now you're lumping together all your bullshit datapoints, and it's getting illegible. Not the first time you've developed complete incoherence by the end of your post.[/QUOTE]My bad, I should have treated you like the Neanderthal you are. Ever hear of Google? How long would it take to put Fuck the EU and Yats is our guy into a search engine? Or do you need your mommy to type it for you?

[QUOTE=Travv;2715604]Don't confuse us with the facts! The real issues are how do I avoid getting stuck fighting in a war based on lies and get the most US foreign aid money for myself to smuggle into Switzerland? Think Petro Petroshenko, the former Ukrainian president got caught trying to escape to Poland after leaving the combat area LOL.[/QUOTE]You need to put a / sarc at the end of this. That was fucking hilarious.

Only thing is Zelensky seems to prefer London to Switzerland. I cannot blame him. I think the hos are cheaper there. [URL]https://new-economy.gr/2022/03/13/zelensky-pandora/[/URL].

I got to say that Zelensky did buy himself a nice spread in London with all that aid money. Maybe we should give him another $40 billion.

Our traitorous old aquaintance Elvis finally found the spot for his Putin rim jobbing fix, even though he's never been to Europe. Long live the free for all threads, and bring on the wingnut conspiracy theories. Wink.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2715615]I'm not a 'Dem' but please don't let this little detail slow you down.[/QUOTE]Naturally he wants to turn it into a Dem / Repub thing while continuing to ignore the fact that only 11 Repub senators voted against the latest aid package to Ukraine. And he erects the usual straw man as no one is calling Ukraine "sweet and innocent. " The US isn't either with a freedom score of 83 out of 100. If "sweet and innocent" were the criteria then the US would have no allies, and no act of aggression could be challenged as no one is "innocent. " Eyeroll. The freedom score of Ukraine is at 60, about on par with Tucker Carlson's fav country Hungary. Ukraine has made a lot of progress in the last eight years, and especially since breaking from their former Russian puppet government. Russia by contrast gets a score of 20 and their pals Belarus, 5. But probably the greatest demonstration of a love for freedom in Ukraine is seen on the battlefield, against genocidal terrorists, while traitors like Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard, and their sheep in online discussion forums blow Putin to completion. True conservatives of old like Reagan are turning in their graves.

[URL]https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715670]You need to put a / sarc at the end of this. That was fucking hilarious.

Only thing is Zelensky seems to prefer London to Switzerland. I cannot blame him. I think the hos are cheaper there. [URL]https://new-economy.gr/2022/03/13/zelensky-pandora/[/URL].

I got to say that Zelensky did buy himself a nice spread in London with all that aid money. Maybe we should give him another $40 billion.[/QUOTE]Again, something these idiots forgot to talk about. Most of the government in Ukraine were rarely in country, living abroad. They were out spending the civilian money in other countries, instead of fixing Ukraine.

The first thing that should be done is audit of all the government officials accounts, then you will see how corrupt these guys are.

If you want to defeat Putin produce massive amounts of Oil and keep sanctioning on him. Until you liberals do this, he will just wait you out and at the end win. In the end the losers will be the Ukraine and Russia people. Hopefully the rest of the world will wake up and sometimes there is.

A loser in life, not everybody can win. Ukraine will lose, know one is coming to bail them out. The weapons and money will not be enough.

Putin is horrible guy and obviously he does not care about the lose of human life to accomplish his goals. Ukraine government is definitely partially to blame and they continue to do nothing to diffuse the war. They have to find a solution or they will end up with next to nothing.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2715664]XPartan is an Israeli shill. They are hired by Mossad to jam up online discussions worldwide. He proves this by showing total ignorance of the facts you outlined and asking you to reply to his undiluted nonsense. The pig has nothing to contribute.

There have been major developments overnight but this pig's job is to keep everyone in the dark.
[/QUOTE]Hired? Nah. This piglet is just bringing gaslight unto the nations, and trying to heel the world.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2715766]Again, something these idiots forgot to talk about. Most of the government in Ukraine were rarely in country, living abroad. They were out spending the civilian money in other countries, instead of fixing Ukraine.

The first thing that should be done is audit of all the government officials accounts, then you will see how corrupt these guys are.

If you want to defeat Putin produce massive amounts of Oil and keep sanctioning on him. Until you liberals do this, he will just wait you out and at the end win. In the end the losers will be the Ukraine and Russia people. Hopefully the rest of the world will wake up and sometimes there is.

A loser in life, not everybody can win. Ukraine will lose, know one is coming to bail them out. The weapons and money will not be enough.

Putin is horrible guy and obviously he does not care about the lose of human life to accomplish his goals. Ukraine government is definitely partially to blame and they continue to do nothing to diffuse the war. They have to find a solution or they will end up with next to nothing.[/QUOTE]I agree, and Putin has done things before this that were horrible. He stole Robert Kraft's rings, tried to rig the Olympics, and he just seems like he is a megalomaniac.

Still, I have to say that it was amazing watching him be interviewed for Russiagate and he had more faith in our electoral process that we do. He asked the reporter how he could change the minds of millions of Americans, and the reporter had no answer. Then the reporter handed Putin a written brief on Russiagate and Putin threw it away like you do in a trash can. The reporter asked Putin if he would read it and Putin rolled his eyes and said maybe later.

How does Putin trust anything we say after that? How does he not think we are a total bunch of morons? A huge chunk of Americans are so stupid they think Putin cost the Democrats the election. It was impossible that Hiliary ran a shit campaign.

And 2020 was even worse. That psychopath Hunter Biden leaves that laptop with some of the most vile shit on it imaginable at a repair store. This time instead of the FBI, it is the intelligence community calling it Russian disinformation. If Putin says that the Hunter Biden Russian disinformation story is bullshit, does Trump win? I think he probably would have. So in 2020, Putin could have altered the election but chose not to. His reward for all that was Biden beefing up military forces in Ukraine. I wonder if he is kicking himself for not calling bullshit on all those lies.

Thing about Victoria "Fuck the EU" and "Yats is our guy" Nyland is the Russians are probably the ones who caught her saying that. If so, there was a lot more, and they knew all about Obama and the Dems schemes for Ukraine and are seeing them now try to bring their plans to reality.

DF, You and I would love to see peace come to Ukraine, but peace has to be based on trust. Yeah, Putin is a bad guy, but would it be rational for him to trust anything we say now? I am not sure that is even possible.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2715664]
If you fancy banging the widows of Azov fighters, rooms are to be had in Kiev.
[/QUOTE]Nah, I heard they only do anal.

Funny thing about Ukraine and Venezuela. I went to Venezuela in 2007 and really did not see that many hotties but some of the Vennies I saw in Mexico and Colombia were among the hottest women I had ever seen.

Of the cities I went to in the USSR (yes it was a while ago), I thought St. Petersburg had the hottest women. There were some hotel hos back then that were 10's. But I went to Kev (that was how it was spelled then) and I liked the city, and I even swam in the Dnieper River pre-Chernobyl, but I saw nothing special there with the women.

Guys were going to Ukraine around 2000 to bang hotties and marry these women. They had those find-a-wife tours where dummies pay $2000 to do something they could do for half on their own. Anyway, guys were bragging about how hot these women were. I was like shocked because I saw nothing special. I heard Odessa was the best, and I had not gone there, It would have been a good time to go because of the strong dollar then but I passed. 85 cents bought one Euro then.

A year or so later though, I was at a buddy's wedding in Toronto, and we do the bachelor party in the strip clubs there, and I was super impressed. There were loads of beautiful blonde blue eyed gals with perfect figures who really could move, and the hottest ones were all from Ukraine.

I have never been to Poland and I am so, so curious what the pussy market is like there. I imagine it would be like being in Colombia at the peak of the Vennie invasion.

For all of us, that is probably what matters most about the war.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2715880]Nah, I heard they only do anal.[/QUOTE]Works for me! Aaahahaha!

A very bumpy ride in the middle of summer.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EGrpKPngkyQ[/URL]

[URL]https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/three-quarters-salary-going-fuel-24200645[/URL]

Three quarters of my salary is going on fuel': The carer who says she can't afford to work.

She and other people who rely on transport to do their jobs have described how it's becoming very tough, almost impossible, to keep going.

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/fuel-protest-petrol-prices-m4-b2115143.html[/URL]

"Woman defends road fuel protest after losing her job to high petrol prices".

I bet she and others won't be Happy when she reads Pandora's papers on High End Apartments in London purchased with suspect money by Certain Ukrainians.

Empathy doesn't last forever.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2715749]And he erects the usual straw man as no one is calling Ukraine "sweet and innocent. " The US isn't either with a freedom score of 83 out of 100. If "sweet and innocent" were the criteria then the US would have no allies, and no act of aggression could be challenged as no one is "innocent."[/QUOTE]I mentioned before that the development of successful democracies hasn't been linear. If you look at the development of South Korea and Taiwan, you would find that they had large corruption and did not fully embrace democracy in their infancy. Democracy was an evolution. Much to the chagrin of the West, there's no magic democracy dust you can sprinkle on reborn nations.

You can add some other democratic countries to that list. Brazil, Chile and a few other emerging democracies in South America. Southeast Asia has had some fits and starts as well.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2716154]I mentioned before that the development of successful democracies hasn't been linear. If you look at the development of South Korea and Taiwan, you would find that they had large corruption and did not fully embrace democracy in their infancy. Democracy was an evolution. Much to the chagrin of the West, there's no magic democracy dust you can sprinkle on reborn nations.

You can add some other democratic countries to that list. Brazil, Chile and a few other emerging democracies in South America. Southeast Asia has had some fits and starts as well.[/QUOTE]That's all true and logical. The poster in question though, Elvis isn't able to debate the content but erects straw men and knocks them down or ignores rebuttals altogether and repeats the same fallacious arguments and unproven, unsourced conspiracies over and over, all with plenty of filibustering in between. He finally found his way here. You guys enjoy him. LOL.