I'm hip to your groove John05
I didn't mean to diss any of the older guys, especially since I know many of them are swimming in vag down there and putting out the vibe like the yutes. You are correct in assuming I don't have much trouble getting in like Flynn up here, but it is because of this that 1, I only pay for it down there if I REALLY like the girl and 2, I look for the girls who want more than a session with a time limit. Though being able to chat with these chicks and make them open up often compels me to give even the non-pros a little something, as they often have life stories that break your heart, but alas that is my experience with manifold women across southern latitudes. Of course they embellish, and of course you know that half of those who claim to be students are pajeras, but that's all part of the game - the guys lie about their age, they lie about how long they've been slinging culo and studying at the U. Anyway, I meant no offense. I do however find it difficult to fathom the experience of an age gap, say, between a 50 year old gringo and a 25 year old colombiana, which is only compounded by the cultural differences, though if it's strictly sex then who gives a shit? Though I agree with Rufus that many girls do indeed look for older guys, father figures if you will. Just check out Amigos.com or Adultfriendfinder and you'll see girls in their early 20s looking for guys 30-40. And for los ricos pues el dinero todo lo puede.
Cada perico a su estaca.
Has To Be One Of The Best!
[QUOTE=Alachingada]Though some of these girls may be desperate, especially if they're not the hottest or it's the end of the month and they need rent money (though most still live at home with mom and/or kid/s), no one has made note of the fact that the hottest girls will often always go for more not just because they're smokin, but because the buyer is a total turnoff and isn't going to score UNLESS he shells out the bucks. Though a gringo is somewhat of a novelty in Colombia, even in Cartagena (more so with blonde hair and blue eyes), more than a few of these girls have standards, and unless you're an attractive guy and/or have a good personality, you're probably going to pay more, or at least experience a real bidding war. Of course, there are always exceptions.
If you're at LDV at 3:00AM , chances are you're going to get your price, but by that time the best chicas are long gone. But if you show up at midnight and are corpulent, slovenly, awkward, hideous or ungainly in any way, you're the last resort of the hoochie mamas in the crib, UNLESS you pull out the pesos. It also depends on what you're looking for. If you speak fluent Spanish like I do, then you'd be willing to pay a bit more for a girl with a good personality (though most of them are so damn interesting because they've lived such crazy lives, especially those from the campo). At the same time, a guy with some linguistic dexterity and charisma is going to earn a lower price or pay none at all, and when you get it for free at a place like LDV (though you obviously still spend $ there or at a disco), then you know you're a Cracker Jack and can expect not only some good lovin, but some quality time with a girl you'll end up getting to know beyond the bedroom. It all depends on the dude, but speaking the language and having lived in Latin America on and off for over three years, I look to learn more about the people and places I encounter, as sex is never far or hard to find, though I surely have my physical preferences. I banter with the hottest girls in the place after getting a drink and reconnoitering the place, then pursue the most genuine and original.
For example, in October I was in LDV and waiting for a chica I spent the night before with, when this other hottie sat down next to me, said I was "guapisimo" and asked "te puedo dar un beso?" before shoving her tongue down my throat. She then leaned over and said into my ear, "Me encanta tener sexo por las pompis." (I love it in the backdoor.) Now, some guys might drool right there and pay 200K for that, but I was waiting for my muñeca and didn't want to spend any time with what ended up being the sluttiest girl I met in two weeks down there. What this chick taught me (along with plenty of others with whom I spoke), is that they often get bored spending time with guys who they can't communicate with, and will not only try to, but expect to squeeze more money out of them. (Of course, as many of you prove, this is not always the case.) She also taught me that although looking good and dressing well will get you far, speaking the language is a real clincher. Again, much can be imputed to the looks/personality factor, and though any aversions a chica may feel towards a monger, a good personality can certainly surmount them, but la lengua may be the greatest resource, especially for the thrifty.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, yes, you gotta have some dick control and not overpay, especially when anyone with a brain comes here first to verify prices before heading south. Even if you look like a troll, you'll find a counterpart anywhere down there, but if you want to get with the real mamacitas you're going to have to pay more. Plenty of girls say no to guys down there, and I attribute this to those overpaying which has allowed them to not only expect more dough, but be more picky when it comes to who they chill with. So bottom line is, don't overpay, there are more than enough girls to go round, and if you're a leper don't try to get with the honey babies and don't be so damn impulsive. It makes me think some of these guys haven't been with a girl for years and just say yes to the first price they're quoted so as to just grab the girl and head out, hoping they still remember how to work the machinery. THINK ABOUT THE REST OF US AND NOT JUST MR. JOHNSON!
Perhaps the most important lesson learned is, speaking the language is the ultimate ace in the hole. KNOWING SPANISH IS PRICELESS. I've been all over Central America, Cuba and Mexico and I find the people in all those places to be quite pleasant, especially the Mexicans, and I find that my personality translates perfectly in Spanish, perhaps better, which has afforded me the most incredible and unbelievable experiences of my life south of the border, not to mention more friends and chicas than I know what to do with. Colombians are indeed as gracious and charming as they say, they speak excellent Spanish (which is important if you know how bad they speak in the Caribbean/Central America), and they left me in awe from the moment I landed in Bogotá to the day I left Cartagena.
I highly recommend learning some Spanish, especially if you really want to learn something about Colombia and its people besides how well the girls can grind. I never got so much tail with so little effort in my life, and I've met way too many desperate chavalas in my life. Whether it was a waitress at El Cucharón, a chica in the plaza, or getting phone numbers at La Piscina for an adventure the following day instead of a rushed 20 minutes/60K on the premises, the español never failed, and it earns you mad respect. It also brings you right into the reality of Colombia given to you by the people who know it best. No travel guide can give you that.
I should add that I'm late 20s, possess the aforementioned traits and am in great shape (which no doubt helped and added to the novelty factor), but speaking the language opened so many damn doors there, and made the chicas I didn't choose jealous, as my muñeca even insisted on stopping in at LDV one night after we went out for some eats just to gloat and earn bragging rights. Man, that's when you know you scored, more so when the girl stays with you for 8 days, sleeps with you until 2 PM every day and never asks for a cent after the first night - though she did get drinks and discos on me the whole week, in addition to some companionship, which they value a lot more than you think, especially when so many of them are young, single moms who have often been dicked and ditched by those ungrateful Colombian men. Sorry to toot my horn, but I had a blast, learned a lot, and wanted to put my two cents in, whether you like it or not...[/QUOTE]
In the time I have been reading the forum your post has to be one of the very very best, and thank you for taking the time and providing us with great insight, for what you shared is priceless, and I totally agree with every point you made. As I posted this past week on the Thailand board in the photo thread, your attitude, the way you carry yourself, the way you dress, groom, and smell goes along way with these girls, along with your communication skills.
skip cartgena Armenia is the best kept secret for
lovely ladies.. if you do decide to visit my friend luis lives here [english teacher here ].. contact me for his ph.#... Enjoys meeting gringos.. can arrange apartment rental for 3 people. cheap per person on nice place for chicas to enjoy, 24 hour security good location.. the best for cheaper then lousey hotel.. , . everything here to enjoy cheaper then Cartagena or barranquilla ,,. no beaches just rainforest, montains. beaver hunting at his best,,.
just trying like peter.. lima busy..
or medellin mansion.. luis is a person that can answer any questions regarding the region.. let me guess lima busy. you speak spanish .. some people don't.. have a beer w/ the guy and pick his brain for good tips... are you hearing me lima busy,... so as far as pusing touts..yes if the guy is good for my needs. really think lima busy your cheap ass person..everything cheap in colombia. studio apartment 200 u.s w/ all ..month. yes thats a fact here in Armenia, luis is easy to talk to on the phone. english perfect.. educated . family man. he translate for my ladyfriend.. great for me . if you to chat w/ luis in Armeina. contact me. i have a guy in Cali now meeting Luis, He had good vibes on the phone w/ him. . any thing else lima buy ill be happy to answer your questions on the phone regardig pusing touts..,try paying small fee for servie provided.. , as my dear friend bob marley told me.. dont worry be happy in colombia... ch5cas are fun here.. just need a l6cal to show you the ropes
You Call LB "Cheap" Because he Objects to Your Spamming?
Again, taking cheap shots at LB because he calls Spam spam is out of line.
Peter and I have reached detente after I called him on his unjustified attack on LB for a similar "offense" , and I seek no flame war with you.
YOU need a guide to lead you by the hand, more power to you (and the tout you hire). And if Jackson wants to allow people to post testimonials for their touts here, OK. But IMHO you should mention your Luis (or ANY other tout) ONCE and ONLY once. After that it IS spamming which should be sequestered in its own folder (like Peter in BAQ or Medellin Mansion).
Alachingada: EXCELLENT post. Fortunately, you are incorrect in your skepticism about the viability of relationships between younger Colombianas and older men (ambos nativo and extranjero). I have a WAYS to go until 50, but I can say that MANY Colombianas genuinely prefer 30 or 40 somethings to guys in their 20s. While economics cannot be discounted entirely, it is also a mistake to assume that it is nothing more than economics at play. No offense, but IMHO it takes YEARS of interacting with women before you can even begin to understand what makes them tick. Lord knows I still have MANY years before I will attain that capability.
I cannot compare Colombia for a 20something as my first trip was at 40. There is no doubt there are some hotties I might have scored back when I was 25 and lean as could be that would not be interested now. At the same time, there are LOTS of hotties who I COULD bond with now that I never could have when I was in my 20s.
Finally, your point about being able to communicate is KEY; while many WSGers cannot become 20 again, nor can they get into shape such that girls would be attracted to them BECAUSE they are acuerpado, ANYBODY, no matter how old or fat, CAN learn enough Spanish to communicate at a basic level. Those who refuse to try should really go to the DR, Thailand or the PI instead as I think they will enjoy it more than Colombia.
On The Go... On the Money--- La Verdad
[QUOTE=On The Go]In the time I have been reading the forum your post has to be one of the very very best, and thank you for taking the time and providing us with great insight, for what you shared is priceless, and I totally agree with every point you made. As I posted this past week on the Thailand board in the photo thread, your attitude, the way you carry yourself, the way you dress, groom, and smell goes along way with these girls, along with your communication skills.[/QUOTE]On The Go.
On The Money
