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"fat slob bastard" I like that, that should be somebodies name.
A. G.
[QUOTE=Viajero;1366439]Guys, if you really want to meet a Paisa non pro, Spanish is a must. Paisas love romantic music, if you know Spanish, then you are lucky, if you don, t, get up your fat lazy ass and memorize a sentence each day from a song like "maldita primavera" for mexican singer Yuri. Or "hijo de la luna" by Mecano. Or "Si tu no hubieras ido" by Mana. Go to a video bar musica romantica and sing along these songs and believe me, I guarantee you that you get laid in no time. And if you don't, I make you a bet, I'll pay your beer and even pay you a visit to a casa that's how confidence I am that you will get laid by a non pro. Paisas are the hottest women on this planet, and they love to be romanced and cuddled. You don't have to be rich or handsome unless you are a fat slob bastard.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dritt;1366261]I am in Medellin now and been here a week. Thanks for the centro map! But I think it would have been better (at least for us noobs) with a ultimate Medellin map with all places of whole Medellin area, the focus for updates would naturally still be centro casas coming and going. Perhaps opening the map for others to edit.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of maps floating around. I think the community walk ones you can edit. They change so often, it's hard to maintain.
[QUOTE=Dritt; 1366261][B]New life[/B] Twice. At first lineup the first girl in line was a pretty girl with silicone who stood much out from the others, the lineup was very long and seemed to take forever, I chose an average looking girl who presented herself more energetic. She was quite active during sex, but no kissing and no owo. She asked for propina, I only gave a token due to lack of kissing, plus I left after less than 20min.
Second time, the hottest girl from the first visit was nowhere in the lineup, chose another average. Kissing without tongue, very inactive during sex. Seemed depressed.[/QUOTE]DFK let alone LFk is very uncommon in these casa and strip clubs. If they ask for a propina, and their service is shitty or I don't plan on seeing them again, I just say next time. BTW, what is "owo"?
[QUOTE=Dritt; 1366261][B]Fase dos[/B].
Went there on a Saturday around 22-23 too early I think as more girls where coming when I left. 10k cover, was just 4-6 men in the locale. Extremely loud music made it impossible to talk, I found one girl I liked the looks of and she found another girl with good English to translate. After going to the room I was a bit disapointed in this light her face was still nice in shapes, but the light reaveled that makeup was parly hiding some not so nice skin. And when she took of her clothes, very tiny breasts one smaller than the other. Very thin.
But despite of her body lacking much female shapes she radiated very much confidence about her body in a very sexy way.
Very active during sex, clearly very fit. Good mood, much teasing. No kissing. She gave me far from a full hour, I was exhausted and did not bother trying to fight for what I paid for.
Next time I hope I will remember to ask girls around for FK and owo before going for anyone.[/QUOTE]That is a good time to go. It also depends what day you go. Thursdays and Fridays are usually the best.
I hate the pushup bras! If it's a stripclub, I usually wait until they get on stage first.
[QUOTE=Dritt; 1366261][B]Energy by stadion[/B].
First girl in lineup seemed eager to represent herself and she spoke some English, but was not willing to kiss and would not do owo. The IMO prettiest girl of the lineup was willing to do fk and owo for 50k extra each, I choosed her and 1h for 110k.
She was even more pretty naked, slim overall and stomach but still some shape on her natural breasts. I tried to get owo and fk togheter for 70k but failed, and choosed only fk. The kissing was only so so. She did not use lubrication, and the condom had very little lubrication, the sex was a bit painful for her. Due to her wanting an extra sum for having sex a second time, I made sure to fuck her for a long time, the condom broke. After sex I immediately took an shower since I was dripping of sweat when coming back she was on her way out even though it was more than 20min left. I managed to stop her we argued about the time which was not so easy due to my fucked spanish. Since she was a * I dressed and exited about 15min before planned.
If you are not interested in massage 1h in this place pose risk of poor value unless you perhaps negotiate in advance or perhaps YMMV works in yours favor.[/QUOTE]Energy raised prices again? It was 90k about 6 months back I believe.
You should bring your own lubrication. They usually don't have for some strange reason.
All these places are one pop and you're done. If you want them to stay and fill up the whole hour, you'll have to try to learn some Spanish and try to talk with them. What else do you want her to do? Just sit and stare at each other?
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[QUOTE=Viajero;1366439]Guys, if you really want to meet a Paisa non pro, Spanish is a must. Paisas love romantic music, if you know Spanish, then you are lucky, if you don, t, get up your fat lazy ass and memorize a sentence each day from a song like "maldita primavera" for mexican singer Yuri. Or "hijo de la luna" by Mecano. Or "Si tu no hubieras ido" by Mana. Go to a video bar musica romantica and sing along these songs and believe me, I guarantee you that you get laid in no time. And if you don't, I make you a bet, I'll pay your beer and even pay you a visit to a casa that's how confidence I am that you will get laid by a non pro. Paisas are the hottest women on this planet, and they love to be romanced and cuddled. You don't have to be rich or handsome unless you are a fat slob bastard.[/QUOTE]Good advice on Spanish and music tips. I would add Salsa dancing to the list of things that would add to the chances of hitting off with non-pros. I did not mean to say they are not fun. I was mostly referring to time investment that is needed. If some expects to land in MDE and bed a non-pro that evening, the chances are slim. No matter how good your game is.
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[QUOTE=Dritt; 1366261]I am in Medellin now and been here a week. Thanks for the centro map! But I think it would have been better (at least for us noobs) with a ultimate Medellin map with all places of whole Medellin area, the focus for updates would naturally still be centro casas coming and going. Perhaps opening the map for others to edit.
[B]New life[/B] Twice. At first lineup the first girl in line was a pretty girl with silicone who stood much out from the others, the lineup was very long and seemed to take forever, I chose an average looking girl who presented herself more energetic. She was quite active during sex, but no kissing and no owo. She asked for propina, I only gave a token due to lack of kissing, plus I left after less than 20min.
Second time, the hottest girl from the first visit was nowhere in the lineup, chose another average. Kissing without tongue, very inactive during sex. Seemed depressed.
[B]Fase dos[/B].
Went there on a Saturday around 22-23 too early I think as more girls where coming when I left. 10k cover, was just 4-6 men in the locale. Extremely loud music made it impossible to talk, I found one girl I liked the looks of and she found another girl with good English to translate. After going to the room I was a bit disapointed in this light her face was still nice in shapes, but the light reaveled that makeup was parly hiding some not so nice skin. And when she took of her clothes, very tiny breasts one smaller than the other. Very thin.
But despite of her body lacking much female shapes she radiated very much confidence about her body in a very sexy way.
Very active during sex, clearly very fit. Good mood, much teasing. No kissing. She gave me far from a full hour, I was exhausted and did not bother trying to fight for what I paid for.
Next time I hope I will remember to ask girls around for FK and owo before going for anyone.
[B]Energy by stadion[/B].
First girl in lineup seemed eager to represent herself and she spoke some English, but was not willing to kiss and would not do owo. The IMO prettiest girl of the lineup was willing to do fk and owo for 50k extra each, I choosed her and 1h for 110k.
She was even more pretty naked, slim overall and stomach but still some shape on her natural breasts. I tried to get owo and fk togheter for 70k but failed, and choosed only fk. The kissing was only so so. She did not use lubrication, and the condom had very little lubrication, the sex was a bit painful for her. Due to her wanting an extra sum for having sex a second time, I made sure to fuck her for a long time, the condom broke. After sex I immediately took an shower since I was dripping of sweat when coming back she was on her way out even though it was more than 20min left. I managed to stop her we argued about the time which was not so easy due to my fucked spanish. Since she was a * I dressed and exited about 15min before planned.
If you are not interested in massage 1h in this place pose risk of poor value unless you perhaps negotiate in advance or perhaps YMMV works in yours favor.[/QUOTE]I am sorry that you consistently had poor experience at many places. I have been to almost the same places as you did I did not have any problems with LFK and even DFK. Most of my reports in the last month were GFE type experiences. Sometimes, with casa girls, I had to say no because of my personal preference. Agree that it all comes down to the girl and necessarily the place. Don't take it the wrong way and see it as general suggestions for general benefit.
If you want LFK or DFK, maintain very good oral hygiene. Use mouth wash before hand and have chewing gum.
Don't show up to the casas dripping in sweat. I take a shower, deodorant and use a light perfume. I use a cab unless the walk is really short or I use the shower in the casa.
Don't be all calculative and try to over negotiate. Relax and be cool. Girls sense it if you are all business and they are all business back. In general, paisas are very sweet.
Good luck at the next place.
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I have quite good oral hygiene and floss everyday, and I visit first girl of the day before lunch. But I might use mouthwash before going. In Europe I am used to that girls who have kissing in their ads provide mouthwash in their bathrooms. Mouthwash was provided at Energy.
About sweat it`s funny that you mention because I recently found out my deodorant is no longer working so I have probably pestered some girls with sweat, during my first days here.
But I think it`s mostly due to other stuff not so easy to change.
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[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1366891]If you want LFK or DFK, maintain very good oral hygiene. Use mouth wash before hand and have chewing gum.
Don't show up to the casas dripping in sweat. I take a shower, deodorant and use a light perfume. I use a cab unless the walk is really short or I use the shower in the casa.
Don't be all calculative and try to over negotiate. Relax and be cool. Girls sense it if you are all business and they are all business back. In general, paisas are very sweet.
Good luck at the next place.[/QUOTE]Very sound advise. Paisas whether they are prepagos or not are women first and foremost and if you aren't squeeky clean you have no chance of a GFE experience.
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Good answers.
HiOctane, Vitrea. Your posts in response to Dritt are spot-on.
The thing with kissing is that I always try to ask ahead of time. I just can't enjoy myself without kissing so if it is not on the menu or they ask for an outrageous tip, I pass. Some girls just won't do it even if they readily agree to BBBJ. It can be an emotional thing with them, they keep that for their personal life.
HiOctane, owo is oral without condom. I think this is used in European boards more often than BBBJ. Most of the casas have increased their pricing over the past year. The ones in Centro by about another 5 COP each tier. When I went to Energy during my trip in Sept, it was already 110R per session. What's really bad is that they don't offer a 30min option.
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I went to New Life Sunday afternoon it seemed quite busy and the prettiest girls likely not available. 2 men coming after me got to choose before me, while other men where let behind me in the queue.
Chose a girl with a name I for a change can remember the sound of Mari.
Average looking, with slight freckles. When nude a reddish birthmark or something under right breast, not disturbing. Asked about besos reply SI and then asked con lengua the answer PUEDES bewildered me at the time so I added I would give propina for lengua. Still the kissing was only so so, no DFK. Quite good performance in riding position but only bothered for a brief time. A bit to theatrical sounds. Friendly or acting so, she gave me her telephone number if I wanted her to my apartment.
I gave a 10k propina it should probably have been half for the performance. While making it clear I would have given more for mas lengua.
I was presented the option of 30min when I was at Energy and it seems to be listed here
[url]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/p/servicios.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Manizales911;1367012]Very sound advise. Paisas whether they are prepagos or not are women first and foremost and if you aren't squeeky clean you have no chance of a GFE experience.[/QUOTE]Each guy has his own way but I can't understand guys going to casas looking for GFE (Instant GFE). If a guy wants GFE then put in a little time, its not hard. Set an afternoon date before they work (at your place) , so you both can take a shower together and take your time. Get to know them on a personal level away from where they work. Casas are for guys who want to strap up and ride out for 30 minutes. Kissing a casas girl after she just took three loads from the guys you passed coming in is fucked up to me.
Happy New Years gents.
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1367363]Each guy has his own way but I can't understand guys going to casas looking for GFE (Instant GFE). If a guy wants GFE then put in a little time, its not hard. Set an afternoon date before they work (at your place) , so you both can take a shower together and take your time. Get to know them on a personal level away from where they work. Casas are for guys who want to strap up and ride out for 30 minutes. Kissing a casas girl after she just took three loads from the guys you passed coming in is fucked up to me.
Happy New Years gents.[/QUOTE]I agree. Getting a GFE generally takes a bit more time than one has at a casa. Of course, sometimes "strapping up and riding for 30 minutes" is just what the doctor ordered!
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They did not with me.
[QUOTE=Dritt; 1367185]. I was presented the option of 30min when I was at Energy and it seems to be listed here.
[url]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/p/servicios.html[/url][/QUOTE]Yes, I saw the webpage as well (after my visit). Yet when I asked the lady manager, what their prices were she only said 110R for the hour. With the lineup I saw that afternoon, I felt none of them was worth twice the rate of the casas in Centro so I left and was never tempted to return for the duration of my Sept trip.
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I use casas even though I prefer GFE because one do not need spanish skills, and one are not victim to flakiness. Since owo is not so common I don`t think much of the chance of her just having cum in her mouth. I kiss girls in eastern Europe who do owo and cim as standard, it`s not something that bothers me and I have never tasted any saltiness, except when the last load was my own that is.
Today I was at Atenea, where 2 nice girls in the lineup. Choosed Johanna or something, did not try to kiss because discovered she had two piercings in her tongue. The condom did not fit well to tight in the head and made my penis sore and insensitive so did not manage to cum.
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[QUOTE=Almotu; 1366233]Good to know! The downtown clubs, I am guessing you are talking about the ones on Maracaibo. But I remember the 60-80K price was for 30-40mins only, no? I have sessioned very few times in these clubs, it was always just for visual entertainment. Usually I had already sessioned in the afternoon or I have a date later that evening so never in a rush to pull the trigger.
I am very curious about your comment on Paisas Divinas.
[url]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/prepagos_medellin.php[/url]
Which chicas did you have a good time with? Are these girls really university students or casa / mayorista retreads? I noticed that the entry level girls are priced at 100K for 75mins and only CBJ, is that accurate? Did you just order domicilio and the paisa came to your apartment / hotel? I have heard rumors that some escort agencies actually have an apartment / casa where you can meet the girl in person before committing to the session. It would be great if you could write up a review so we can get an idea of what we can expect during a standard session with one of these escorts.[/QUOTE]Hi, yes, I am referring to the ones on Maracaibo, which are relatively safe (have been to others that were a little dodgy). They are about 70K for a short time (half hour or 45 min, I don't know) but you can also bar fine the girls. It is 60K at all three places, I think, for sure your total should be 200K with the bar fine and the girl. Some girls might ask a bit more but I have never seen one that won't settle for 200K total. That's a good value if you ask me. 200K COP for both the girl and the bar's cut, a solid 8-12 hours of banging.
OK, now, Paisas Divinas. The pics are accurate, of course they are touched up slightly but there is no bait and switch or surprise. You will get the girl pictured, they will be as the measurements say, etc. Are they real Universitarias? Ha, what do you think? There are some low key casas that service that but they seem to go under for whatever reason. These girls are all early to late 20s. If they are casa retreads, they are coming out of Energy or Blue Room, maybe Lutron I don't know as I never really spent much time there. The service is generally good. Most offer BBBJ really, they seem hung up on saying it's CBJ on the site but I've never had one make a fuss. The girls are 100K or 120K for 75 minutes, yes, if they come to your place I think it's another 50K or 60K to cover cabs, time, etc. I don't know, I have a couple that come and visit me but we have our own arrangement.
They keep changing the names of the girls, I will have to take a look at the page and then tell you as far as recs. I say call the girls and talk to them, they will answer directly (not a reception service) and see how it goes. Ask about any additional services, chat them up a bit to check their attitude, etc. Overall I think it's a very good option if you are willing to pay a bit more and don't want the rushed,"McFuck" service of a massage parlor.
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[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1366476]You have to pay extra for second relations with the girl despite the time you pay for. One hour could be 15 minutes if you shoot your load early on the girl. I believe the price is about K130 or K150 COP to have a second round with the provider. Last time there I was pricise when I asked for their rates, but the number excapes me. So you can have round 2 with the girl, you just have to pay for it.[/QUOTE]This is an unwelcome change, I used to go there and Blue Room and always get two pops in an hour, same price.
I'm older and lazier now though, I would probably just stretch the one pop as far as I could anyway LOL.
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[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1367363]Each guy has his own way but I can't understand guys going to casas looking for GFE (Instant GFE). If a guy wants GFE then put in a little time, its not hard. Set an afternoon date before they work (at your place) , so you both can take a shower together and take your time. Get to know them on a personal level away from where they work. Casas are for guys who want to strap up and ride out for 30 minutes. Kissing a casas girl after she just took three loads from the guys you passed coming in is fucked up to me.
Happy New Years gents.[/QUOTE]You can get GFE at the better casas but don't look for it at New Life or some crap. Even if you get it there, it's all quick and dirty negotiations and rushed service. I had a nice Costena girl that was into kissing and taking it easy at New Life once but the only full on GFE service I've had was at Energy and Blue Room. They have changed owners and girls completely since I used to go there though.
You can definitely get GFE at the strip clubs. The key is to be able to talk to the girls, make them feel comfortable and, above all, make it clear what you want and what it costs. I always start out with casual conversation, slip in a couple of jokes and then move onto what I want to do. Usually they just say yes. If they don't, time to negotiate. If during these exchanges the girl has a shitty or reluctant attitude, move on.