Panama City

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I'm curious why Jackson wants a Reports of Distinction link to every report that pans Panama and Medellin. I like both places, although I haven't been to Medellin in a while.[/QUOTE]It could be because people are offering reports of paying up to $350 for bad service in Panama, and Medellin is seeing rising prices from American mongers coming in and throwing money around.

From KOS in Medellin: "Just back from Medellin and can say that the prices have risen due to the numerous americans coming into the city. This is not good. Something has to be done. Eventually the girls will make enough money and become lazy and not want to work anymore, they will become americanized, not good."

Maybe Jackson hopes that highlighting the bad service for big bucks will make people wise up.

I can't believe how much some people pay for pussy in these third world countries. It's not that difficult to get decent pussy in the US just spending $50 on drinks on a Friday night, so it should be MUCH cheaper in the inexpensive mongering destinations.

My grandpa used to say people have more money than sense, and after reading how much cash some guys are throwing around I understand what he meant.

[QUOTE=Traveler 1952]Cost is about $100 (I did not spend a lot of time trying to bargain, although I'm sure you can.). --Bolero's: This is on Calle 42 in Bella Vista, and the girls there were smokin' hot. All 9's and 10s. It's a small place, so there weren't too many girls, but the ones that were there were worth doing. And doing. My guess is the price is also about $100, although I didn't check. [/QUOTE]Do you guys really pay the indy's $100?

The first indy I took from Veneto a few months ago was $30. Good looking, too. I was with her again a few nights later, paid her $40. A different Veneto indy I paid $40, & $5 tip. (I'm a young-looking 38, tall/lanky, nordic looking, can get my point across in Spanish, and just maybe they're cutting me a break, YMMV, but bear with me.)

I say hold the line on the indys. $50 plus/minus $20 depending on attractiveness, day/time etc. $CIENs are for toda la noche, and/or the hottest chick you've ever seen, at 12AM Sat night at Veneto-- but even then you're cruising for a letdown-- as it seems the chica hotness score, and GFEs, are negatively correlated. You're more likely to get a jaded ice queen, who respects you even less for paying her whatever she asks. (IE: ah, a doormat, pfff, how else can I milk this sucker? )

Even the ugly ones will never stop throwing out $CIEN as their initial asking price (it seems they all have an understanding on this! ), but it's the occasional John who grabs it without question, which ruins it for those of us who want to pay something more reasonable. Well, not that it "ruins it" but it makes it more awkward to settle on something closer to $50. There's no brothel/MP/club etc taking 2/3 of the cut here, & you're already paying for your hotel room. Let's us Johns fight back with our own understanding on this, and keep a united front, as the indy working girls do.

You know how far $50 goes in Panama, if you live and eat and shop like a local? Who else in this country makes $50/hour? I don't believe (most) lawyers or doctors do. The $CIEN intitial asking price translates locally to, [I]"So, are you a fresh off the boat sucker who's both horny and naive? "[/I] If they get one $50 lay a night, they're ahead of 99% of all Latin American women who work real jobs.

It's also best to pay only after the deed. Agree on this first, in the initial negotiation stage, that you'll pay after. If she's not okay with that, [I]there's your sign, [/I] that you're dealing with a lemon, & run don't walk. Don't get her to your room (when you're sure you're gonna get some booty now! ) and then get in a spat over this point. You'll lose, your little head will blink first. Agree before hand, she takes it or leaves it at that time.

In short, for superior mongering, [I]be the man, take charge of the situation, don't be a doormat, and then take care of her as promised at the end. [/I] You'll find these Latin women [I]respect that, machismo is what makes them horny[/I], and you'll increase your GFEs and decrease your disappointments. Doormats pay more and get less.

(Nothing personal Traveler1952, I'm just making the case for keeping a united front on certain issues, in the end it'll make for better mongering)

Elberto, that was me that paid $350 for bad service at Golden Time. That also was my entire mongering budget for the time I was in Panama -- I was working outside the city the rest of the trip. And if I'm screwing it up for others that are trying to bang 3 chicas a day on $100, so be it. I don't care.

I've had good service from maybe 8 out 10 women I've seen at Golden Time. I've never been with a 19 to 21 year old model-looking hooker in the U.S. But from the internet ads what you can get for $350 at Golden Time (all night) would run $2000+ in the U.S.

Luvr Tom, I don't pay $100 for the Indy's, unless it's for multiple hours. I've paid as little as $25 to one that asked for $100. I haven't run across too many freelancers that looked as good as the cream of the crop at GT. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Traveler got better service by paying $100. Regardless of whether the chica thinks he's a sucker or generous/nice, she's more likely to want his repeat business. And I've got news for you, it's not the machismo that's making them horny, it's the green. That is, dollars, and for some of the Colombians who are thinking longer term, green card. I've met ones that wanted to stay with me for free, but I can guarantee that it's not primarily because of my looks or language ability. It's because she's looking for the big score (a husband who makes a lot more money than any guy she could get in Colombia). And she'd rather take a few days off with someone who treats her decently instead of getting banged several times a night by strangers.

About paying before hand, a couple of times I got into an argument and ended up leaving the money on the top of a table or dresser and saying take it when you leave. That kept the atmosphere a little friendlier both times it worked out well. I agree that if she brings up getting paid before you get to the room, it's best to dump her.

i agree with you just last night i got a smokin blonde for 4 hrs a columbian girl patricia for 60 ·ill post pics and details when i return home on friday*ii also got her phone number·the elpanama is getting strick they want you to ckeck in all girls for a fee of $20 ·the security is older gent and really asses·i told them i was changing and we were going to the disco he said ok ·this is pissing me off but i wont end up in panama jail so i wont push it to much·spider yes travler i have pics lol

Spider

You only had 1 girl last night and just for 4 hours? What's the problem? If you need some Vitamin V or C the pharmacy is just across the street from El Panama.

Where did you take her from? Do you think your going to be able to outwit security for the whole trip?

RE: The Golden Times issue

I do not think overall it is a bad place. I will never go back because I don't like the MP atmosphere overall and there are plenty of other options out there in Panama. There are countless reports on here and other boards of the quality of girls there. I think that report presented here was of one bad apple. There are probably a few more. But in my visit I had a fine experience. Also if you read the reports here the standard advice is to take a pen and paper with you and start tracking their numbers immediately. Be prepared. Spider and I did this but it didnt work for him because he wrote down every girls number!

travlr be serious .just one girl.i waited for gauntman but got stood up. so i headed to capri . had a few coronas then i picked this tiny girl long black hair really nice body tight little ass . then i went to royal casino. nothing there this is about 100am. habanos was overfull of girls alot of 6-8s . but i wanted to walk around. i almost shit when the guy i used to broker deals was in front of the veneto. he actually remembered me. he goes my friend 5 months you want a girl. i just smiled and he new the drill.he brought back this chica around 27. i got her for $30 for the night. nothing fancy but for that price. what the fuck. i took some pics of her .her name was maria . black hair short ,she.started out bbbj then gets in all fours,as i try to slip it in doggie she grabs it and inserts it in her ass.i was in shock but i went to work. finished up and told her to leave. she asked for taxi money so i handed her $3 . the security wasnt around when i brought her in they must have been somewhere else. a good tip is to reserve a room by the pool which is easier to sneak girls thru.the fiesta casino. soa after that i headed back out around 135am. there was my guy again . there was 2 columbians across from the venetto he called them over . wowthey were hot . he talked to them and they both wanted to come over . i knew this was a problem bacause on my way out there was security all over by the pool.so i chose patricia blonde fake titties but real nice . as we walked by security one came after us. he said i had to check her in and pay $20 . i said i was going to change and go to a disco. he said ok. we got to the room. we both strip down i lay on the bed and she gives a fantastic bbbj. i couldnt see so i move some of her hair . she then slides in a position so i can see perfectly.lots of licking a deep throat action. she grabs a condom and starts to ride me cowgirl. after i put her on all fours . she has a great ass.she rolls over and i now have her legs on my shoulders. until completion. i did 2 pops with this girl. she calls her friend who is at the venetto. im in the mood for a drink so i take a walk. this was for a total of $60 . i also got some good shots of her which ill post when i get back to the states. i also have her #. which i might use to get her friendor a second round with her . i noticed there is no security in the day. i may have to change from vampire to daywalker. more reports to follow. your every day spidermonkey. ps travlr the cocos bar is now the elpanama social club . it was dead all night. spider

Broken english Spider... but it's ok.

I have a suggestion for you guys, why dont you avoid the check in problems in the hotels, and visit some "pushbuttons" (sex motels) in the Transistmica area? they are from very cheap (about 8 ~ 30 dollars) both for about 1 hour and a half?

I reckon that since it's a "special" ride, most of the taxi drivers should charge you about 1.50 plus 5.00 or about 13.00 roundtrip, but NEVER more than 15.00 roundtrip, anyway you can negotiate with him before.

By the way not to complain about what you do or dont do, but did you know that a "BBBJ" can get you infected of AIDS? (be careful) COMPRENDE?

see you guys

Thanks for the full report Spider! Glad to see you were able to have a great opening night! Was the in room service at Capri better than last time? Your guy is probably ecstatic you are back. I am sure he is in need of some new Armanii. He will be camped out waiting for you all week. Probably setting up a shift schedule with the girls to replenish you stock every couple of hours.

From what I saw on my last visit the girls in the Royal Casino were real low end. Although Veneto is cracking down, they still have the better lookers. I liked the comment someone made about the drop in bar revenue they are probably seeing as a result of the crackdown. I know I was impressed with all the action and partying going on in the bar area. It was actually a fun place to hang out for a couple of cervezas and do some window shopping. Kind of an upscale Habanos.

sorry for meeting with you spider, by the time I got your pm I already had plans for the night, maybe next time!!

i spent sunday relaxing by the pool.most of the stores were closed. jimmys steak house is not open either . so i ate at the hotel all day.i decided to head out around 1100pm. i walked around for a while ckecking out all the norm places. royal casino and the fiesta casino had nada which every time i go is the norm. habanos is closed on sundays. the cont casino had a few but not worth the effort, so i headed over to venetto.there were a few chicas . as they walked by i talked to them but they wanted $100 for 2 hours and wouldnt budge. i told them no and left the venetto. there was my hook up guy and we took a walk he saw these 2 chicas by the jimmys steak house. after talks i chose this one columbiana about 5´3 this girls name was janet her hair was pulled back tight and elnatural titties . the deal was for $50.she said we can go to her hotel which was the hotel montreal . this was good/bad . as i didnt have to mess with security but i wasnt expecting this and didnt have my camera. we took a taxi and up to her room. sha was staying with her friend and invited me back tomorrow for both of them for $80. there in room #403 . the service was excellent bbbj and on top then me from behind. i left around 1215 and headed back to my hotel. i took a shower and relaxed a bit. i then headed out around 130am and back to the venetto the place was dead . on my way back out side i saw my guy and he said one more chica.i said ofcourse and he said said me onetime chica all done you young all time. at this point there was a chica walking on the other side of the road . he called her over . a cute columbian girl named natalia . real titties and long black hair.we took off forelpanama and we were almost there and a security guy came calling . ans said to check her in. i put $10 in his hand and he said have good time. i rather pay him $10 instead of $20 to the hotel. tonight ill try $5 and see how this works. any way the chica asked totake a shower and i said yes . she comes out wqraped in a towel . i had no problem unwraping her. bbbj to her on top the the usual positions . i didnt get her digits for i was about to pass out. she left and i went to bed. spider

i have a slight case of memory loss. i also have pics of natalia which ill post later next week . spider

Panamanian, is there a love hotel in particular that's really nice? I've never paid $30 and would be curious what you get for that? The love hotels are convenient if you're pulling a woman out of Miami or Golden Time and have your own car. If you're pulling a woman from the area around Espana or using taxis, I think it's easier going to the Montreal or taking her back to your hotel room.

i would agree tiny. if i plan on more than 2 chicas i might get a fuck room at the montreal. i was there in november and it was $22 for a night. spider

Spider, I went there with 2 chicas, and they charged me extra for the 3rd person -- it was thirty something dollars. Still better than trying to get two slutty looking hookers into my hotel though. There was an Australian couple standing there at reception in the Montreal while we were checking in, and the guy was just about ROTFLHAO while his wife just stood there with a disgusted look on her face. I was there with one normal looking blonde Colombian hooker, but the other one was a black Panamanian with about 44D's and a dress that let it all hang out. Did they charge you extra for women? Looking forward to more of your on the spot reporting!

monday night i headed out around 10 pm . there was 3 security guy in the lobby of the elpanama hotel where im staying. i motioned one over . after some talks we both settled on $ 10 for him or which ever one caught me with a chica . still better than paying $20 to the hotel or the hassle of getting a fuck room somewhere. i headed over to habanos. there was about 20 chicas. around 6 dark skinned panamanians and the rest columbians.there was this hot looking blond but from up close she had more plastic than a toy doll. any way the columbian girl patricia was there and came right over . she was the best service i had in a long long time and i had been thinking about her since sat. we ended back at the hotel. there was no security in sight and i saved $10 . same great session like sat night.she headed out and i took a shower . i headed back to habanos and had a few drinks with her and 2 friends. she is leaving in 2 days. i got her comumbian #.we sat there people watching for awhile . most of the chicas had left and it was around 1230. i took a walk over to venetto but my hook up guy was out front . after some talks we went to royal elegance. this place was very small and filled with service men and around 10 chicas. everyone was smoking and the place was to cramped. so we took a taxi back to venetto. we did a stroll to cont casino but there was nothing in there. we ended up in fiesta casino. there was a hot blonde columbian and her friend my man went to work with the talks.the blonde was wearing this jean outfit with a white top underneath.she wanted $80 but settled on $60. so we cut through the casino and to the hotel but 1 security guy came over and i handed him $10.off we went and she was laughing saying everything was money. but this is the way the world is. any way we get the room. she cleans up and we get things started. she was very gfe and passionate kissing , and lots of licking of me every place. after a great bbbj with some time and alot of effort she grabed a condom and gets on top. this girl was extremely tight which was a shock to me. it was a good thing i had been drinking i would have busted by now. i put her on her back with her legs on my shoulders. then to doggiestyle. i hit it hard and fast and she was moaning loud and biting the pillow. i pulled out and finished on her ass . she lay there for a few minutes then got up and went to clean her self up. just a note i need to stock up on more towels. i took a few pics of her but she didnt want me to so every time she looked at me i took a shot . she was laughing and didnt give me a hard time. we got dressed and walked back to fiesta. i said by and found my hook up guy . i showed him all the pics and he said next time he´ll talk to the chica and he will take the pictures of us in action . i dont know how i can get him and a chica back to the room . whats instore for tuesday night. spider.