Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Traveller China]Interesting statement, so what will be the other 2?[/QUOTE]Yeah, give us your feedback on this!! we want the top three!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]The good old days are long gone and they ain't coming back! Best to just accept it for what it is now and prepare for everything to get more expensive and the girls to become more spoiled.[/QUOTE]

Spoiled is right! I had a gogo girl in Pattaya tell me that she would go LT with me "but no sex in morning, Thai lady no like sex in morning." I asked her how many Thai lady she had had sex with and she replied "none." I then told her that I had had sex with many Thai ladies and we always had sex in the morning and that I knew better. Needless to say, I didn't barfine her.

[QUOTE=Barko]Errr, ummm. Goyave, we have to talk.

Bangkok still has the magic, forget what the old farts say. Oh, wait. I AM an old fart, old as dirt, and I've been living in Thailand for over 25 years. WTF, I think Bangkok is actually BETTER than it was before. But that's just me. Heh.[/QUOTE]
Maybe not just you, but I am certainly not the only one that has noticed that the prices charged nowadays in Bangkok are objectively much higher than in the past while the quality (beauty) of the providers is (on average) much lower.

[QUOTE=Barko]For what you get, Bangkok is still the best in Asia, and in the top 3 destinations in the world for babe quality versus pricing. There are more hot chicks now here in BKK than ever, they've just spread out through the industry a lot more than they were before.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, Bangkok is not even the best in Thailand for "babe quality versus pricing". Of course, one may find many hot chicks there, but also more and more unattractive girls (fatties, mothers, older girls, etc.) every year that are trying their luck on the tourist-oriented P4P market, and that's why I am saying that the average quality is lower (but it's quite the opposite for the prices of pussy, drinks, barfines, etc.).

[QUOTE=Barko]I live here, but just to make a point, and not to puff up like a nefariously retarded rooster, (ISG is where we are right now, so fuck it.) I've done lots of places worldwide... Bangkok is still the best damn deal in the world. Bar none. It really is.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, it is not. I also live in Thailand (since year 2002), but upcountry and I consider myself a very privileged monger, and a lot more than most of the guys that are living in Bangkok. Don't get me wrong, I think that Bangkok is offering a wider choice and many things that are not available elsewhere in Thailand, but regarding our favorite hobby, I may spend some quality time with many more real cuties where I live at a much lower cost. For the price of the average barfine in Bangkok (600 baht), I can fuck two girls in a local brothel of Northeastern Thailand. Such as those, for instance:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125563[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127408[/url]

Actually, I pay more than that because I usually give tips to the girls who provide a decent enough service, but the regular price even for Farang customers is 300 baht ST on premises.

[QUOTE=Barko]Example pic from Bangkok: AngelWitch/Mandarin both are to be considered 'touristic places', yes? Of course. Now check the pic, I've personally done both of these sweet babies. [b]2500-3000LT[/b] and in both cases they were freakin' hell damn well worth it, AMAZING all night GFE in fact...[/QUOTE]
Those girls are real cuties, indeed, but Vun (the girl on the right) from Angel Witch in Bangkok does not look as beautiful in real life than on this doctored (especially on her face) picture that is attached to your previous post. She is still a very cute girl, though, but certainly not much more than what is available where I live for a small fraction of the price that you paid (and I suppose that you have not included her barfine, lady drinks, etc.).

I'm a very bad photographer and those girls that I've mentioned previously are more beautiful in real than on my pictures. Now, give them a sexy outfit, let them spend a few hours in a beauty salon, place them in a nicer environment and imagine what would be the result with a professional photographer... They would not need Photoshop to look as great as (maybe even better than) the "real" Vun from Angel Witch (again, IMHO). By the way, those girls are far than being the most beautiful ones that are available for much less money upcountry. The most stunning girl (available on the P4P market) that I've met (in the biblical sense) so far in Thailand cost me only 700 baht ST. The second one, only 500 baht ST. And that was not long ago.

[QUOTE=Barko]... Now, just think, some totally clueless pimply faced dude straight off the plane from Black Oak, Arkansas, Sausset-les-Pins, France, or Ogawa, Japan, etc. Can just go directly to Nana Plaza and easily get almost [b]the same damn deal on the same freakin' chicks[/b], (and have the most outrageously fantastic night of his entire life!) Incredible you say? Yes! Incredible![/QUOTE]
That's certainly not a prowess indeed, but at this price (that's a third of the local monthly average wage, not exactly a reasonable price!), I am not impressed, sorry. At least, I reckon that you have good taste in women. What is really incredible, it's that many mongers are willing to pay even more than that for girls that are much less attractive and they are convinced that it's still a bargain!

[QUOTE=Barko]Enough. Again, Bangkok is still the best deal in the world, it really is.[/QUOTE]
Again, not (IMHO). It's certainly better than many other mongering destinations, and great time may be had there, sure, but it's not anymore the paradise of cheap and nice pussy that it used to be!

[QUOTE=Traveller China]Interesting statement, so what will be the other 2?[/QUOTE]While not as obvious as (#1) Bangkok:

(#2) Cartagena and (#3) Budapest. Both representing extremely easy access to some of the most amazingly beautiful lovie dovie sexy-fun babies in the world (at insanely affordable prices.)

XLNT LT GFE at a low cost from a 8-9+ chick is something you just can't get in 99.999% of everywhere.

Bangkok is still tops though, by a long shot.

[QUOTE=Goyave]


IMHO, Bangkok is not even the best in Thailand for "babe quality versus pricing". Of course, one may find many hot chicks there, but also more and more unattractive girls (fatties, mothers, older girls, etc.) every year that are trying their luck on the tourist-oriented P4P market, and that's why I am saying that the average quality is lower (but it's quite the opposite for the prices of pussy, drinks, barfines, etc.).


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I agree.

Also, there are more hot babes in BKK than anywhere in the country but they aren't cheap. If you're rich, BKK is heaven. If you're scrapping by then you're pretty much stuck with dregs.

[QUOTE=Waste Mgmt]Begs the question: How does the non-Thai speaking punter find these Thai-oriented parlours? It seems to me that this would be the perfect venue (ISG) to create a thread dedicated to these Thai parlours and brothels where this information can be shared and reviews can be written (like the other farang oriented massage threads). Price for service should be included in every report so that we don't introduce price inflation...[/QUOTE]

That's exactly what several ISG members often do in various threads. Chinatown and Saphan Kwai (in Bangkok) for instance have been mentioned earlier in this thread by several ISG senior members, many reports of this kind are also available in the Isan section of this website, etc.

[QUOTE=Mealticket]...Thing is, you got it ALL wrong.[/QUOTE]
You must be ironical or just joking here, I suppose? ;)

[QUOTE=Mealticket]Having come here for 14 years now and lived here for 5+, it is now clear that we farang are the luckiest guys on earth these thai girls will go with us for any "reasonable" price.[/QUOTE]
We, Farangs, are indeed very privileged here (I said the same thing [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1049835#post1049835"]earlier in this thread[/url]), but I think that what most mongers are paying nowadays in the tourist-oriented venues of Bangkok is NOT "reasonable". As explained earlier, they often pay more than 25% of the local average MONTHLY wages just for spending a couple of hours with a prostitute.

[QUOTE=Mealticket]...This will not last. It is already a shadow of what it was at it's peak, in the year's directly after the 97 Asian meltdown...[/QUOTE]
You wrote that I "got it ALL wrong" but you are basically saying the same thing than me: fun may still be had, but the average quality of the providers is lower and prices are much higher than in the past (especially in Bangkok).

[QUOTE=Mealticket]...These girls know their value, apparently much more so that some of the posters here.[/QUOTE]
Their "value" is seriously inflated in the tourist-oriented venues, because most foreigners don't know the "real" value of those girls! An obvious example is the infamous "sin sot" (dowry). I know a then 30-year old divorced woman, a mother of two children, who managed to get a 250,000 baht sin sot and a nice (quite expensive) gold jewel when she remarried with a Farang gentleman, but her real "value" on the Thai "market" as a bride was actually zilch, zero, nada! A local guy would not pay anything to marry a divorced woman, especially if she's already a mother. But it's no secret for the Thai girls that many foreigners don't know much about the local customs, nor the regular prices in the Land of Smiles.

[QUOTE=Goyave]...I know a then 30-year old divorced woman, a mother of two children, who managed to get a 250,000 baht sin sot and a nice (quite expensive) gold jewel when she remarried with a Farang gentleman, but her real "value" on the Thai "market" as a bride was actually zilch, zero, nada! A local guy would not pay anything to marry a divorced woman, especially if she's already a mother. But it's no secret for the Thai girls that many foreigners don't know much about the local customs, nor the regular prices in the Land of Smiles.[/QUOTE]You've got to hand it to opportunistic, crafty Thai people who scam big money out of [i]farangs.[/i]

They are always so pleasant and nice when they do this! LOL!

[QUOTE=Goyave][/QUOTE]I appreciate your opinion and I see your point. Somewhat.

Off topic a bit: In Chiang Mai, I used to get motorbike driveups. You pulled up to a specified spot, (there were MANY around town) four or five girls would come out of nowhere, (in this case sitting behind a restaurant) and wait for you to say something. The one you chose would get on your motorbike and go with you to a bungalow. She would shower you, cleaning you from head to toe and washing your hair, you then fed her, and banged the daylights out of her for as long as you wanted. Done, you both showered again and you would return her back to the same spot. Cost? Three hundred Baht (and I always assumed that I was getting overcharged for being a farang, turns out, I wasn't. Every chick was INSANELY CUTE.) If you wanted to see her again and make a booking of some sort, you gave her another hundred, if you really had a fantastic time and wanted her to stay with you it would be 500 Baht a day or 2000 Baht a week. She cooked your food and did your laundry. Yeah I know, big money. Heh.

The best deals during that timeline were in Fang. The cutest little KMT Chinese porcelain dolls in all of SE Asia. 3000 Baht/month. But I won't bore you with the details.

At any rate, I am sure that you must have been around during the heyday of the Siam Hotel in Bangkok? Hundreds of incredibly hot babies, many in student uniforms, standing near the road with their umbrellas. Drive up, pick one, 1000 Baht for 2-3 hours of bliss. Oh, yeah, then there was Lumpini?

OK, yep yep. I know, those days are long gone. BUT! I am still having the time of my life NOW: Living in Phuket and doing multiples in Bangkok on the weekends. And you will NOT hear me whining about lack of quality in Bangkok, it's there, just as it has always been, it has just spread out beyond NEP and Soi Cowboy.

My point of the magazine cover was to show just how EASY it is to score a hot chick. Those are real girls, yeah, Photoshopped a bit, but they are there, waiting to be had by some stud with a few bucks in his pocket.

Yes, I know that the Thai bar scene goes on as it always has, but it's really hard to do the multiples and get the girls going crazy (the way I like) in any of the Thai joints. The old mamas & papas & hanger-ons are constantly in my shit for lg beer freebies one after another, and fuck me I'm tired of that. Then, after everything, only ONE of the chicks actually leaves with me? Bitchen. NOT.

In the other cities that I frequent throughout Asia, the girls just don't have that same feeling of excitement (too professional) and offer far less bang for the buck. The best in the past was always Tokyo in the early 80's, but that's another story from a whole other dimension. Japanese girls used to absolutely LOVE gaijin! Yes, of course, I got spoiled rotten. But this is TODAY.

Well, again I say, Bangkok is still going strong. The party is still going in the bars, discos, streets. Oilies, biergartens and soapies. (We both know that.) And the chicks are plentiful!

IMHO, this forum is for guys that want fast easily accessible cheap sex. Period. Bangkok is full of providers, but they have just spread out into the other venues that may not be quite as EASY as it once was, but Bangkok still does have it all. Cuter, more fun loving girls, cheaper & better than anywhere else.

Quality? In Bangkok, all you have to do is get out and look.

[QUOTE=Goyave]


Their "value" is seriously inflated in the tourist-oriented venues, because most foreigners don't know the "real" value of those girls! An obvious example is the infamous "sin sot" (dowry). I know a then 30-year old divorced woman, a mother of two children, who managed to get a 250,000 baht sin sot and a nice (quite expensive) gold jewel when she remarried with a Farang gentleman, but her real "value" on the Thai "market" as a bride was actually zilch, zero, nada! A local guy would not pay anything to marry a divorced woman, especially if she's already a mother. But it's no secret for the Thai girls that many foreigners don't know much about the local customs, nor the regular prices in the Land of Smiles.[/QUOTE]
Not only do MOST foreigners/tourists not know much about local customs, but their taste in pussy is really poor. Why anybody would travel half way across the world to have sex with an over the hill mother and pay for it is beyond me. But it's this type of demand that fuels the flow of these undesirables into the marketplace, unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]The good old days are long gone and they ain't coming back! Best to just accept it for what it is now and prepare for everything to get more expensive and the girls to become more spoiled.[/QUOTE]That said, every time i complain and think it is going to the dogs i meet some lovely with no attitude, no talk about money, and it is just like the old days!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Not only do MOST foreigners/tourists not know much about local customs, but their taste in pussy is really poor. Why anybody would travel half way across the world to have sex with an over the hill mother and pay for it is beyond me. But it's this type of demand that fuels the flow of these undesirables into the marketplace, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]I once had a Thai guy tell me, "why would anyone pay money to screw a woman with a kid? We want cute young things with hot bodies, that is what we are paying for. " And it reminded me of going to Nana late one night, maybe 3-4am, and one lady told me that 1000 wouldn't be enough because she had a kid to feed. I told her that if I wanted to pay 1500, I could go to Petchaburi massage places, get a 19 year old with a perfect body, 2 shots in 2 hours, no attitude, no grief. So why on earth would I give her 1500 at 3am? Obviously someone else would.

[QUOTE=Goyave]

Again, not (IMHO). It's certainly better than many other mongering destinations, and great time may be had there, sure, but it's not anymore the paradise of cheap and nice pussy that it used to be![/QUOTE]
I friendly disagree.
Of course if you compare to past times you are right
But at the time it was "your" paradise", maybe someone was complaining "it is not as before"..:)

I think Barko is right when he states:
[QUOTE=Barko]
Originally Posted by Barko
Enough. Again, Bangkok is still the best deal in the world, it really is![/QUOTE]
when we compare it to TODAY or CURRENT.
This is also what induces lots of passing by mongerers to accept high prices as still comparatively much cheaper than in their own country.

It is a no win situation and the girls take advantage: as human being they do exactly what we do. Work for our/their own benefit.
We trying not to overpay
Them trying to earn more to letting us wear their pussies
:)

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Not only do MOST foreigners/tourists not know much about local customs, but their taste in pussy is really poor. Why anybody would travel half way across the world to have sex with an over the hill mother and pay for it is beyond me. But it's this type of demand that fuels the flow of these undesirables into the marketplace, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
Interesting … how then do you explain your own unfortunate and undesirable presence in the same marketplace?

[QUOTE=Johnny Wynne]Hi Guys,

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this but does anyone know if the pharmacys in Bangkok are selling the generic Priligy, Dapoxetine?

Would love to know.

Thanks Kindly
Jon[/QUOTE]

Not sure, but the pharmacy next to Bullies Pub (the 2nd bigger one) near the corner of Suk/Soi 4 stocks a large range of medications. Its where I stock up for prescription meds without a prescription.