Jakarta

[QUOTE=Chuday;1919151]Recently spent 4 days in Jakarta. First of all want to thank all the members who have answered my questions and made my stay memorable.

Day 1:

Checked into Shangri-la. In the evening visited BATS. Had a couple of beers. Met a tall, slim girl from North Java who claims she was 24. Time was about 11:30 pm. Her offer was 2 mil. We agreed on 1. 5 mil for the night and she stayed till 7:30 am in the morning. I had to go to work so reluctantly bid her good bye and went to work. She was good in bed. Good GFE. Very small boobs but large nipples. Thanks to padded bras, they were not that small before I unwrapped the present.

Day 2:

Again visited BATS after work. Ran in to the same talent from previous night. But was in the mood for something different and not repeat the same dish even if it was good. Lots of girls but nothing that I liked. The few chinese looking girls that I liked appeared to be non-friendly. Did not smile when I looked at them. Was total turn off. The other 2/3 girls that I approached wanted 2 mil for a short-time and 4 mil for long time. I thought the offer was ridiculous. It was not an affordability issue. But was too afraid to ruin the market rate for everyone else. As I was leaving, I ran into a petite talent who agreed to 1. 5 mil again for the night. Happy me and her went up to the room and rest is history.

Day 3:

At night visited CJ's. Lots of talent. Nothing I liked. May be because I was being too choosy or that I was not that horny. Spoke to couple of talents. One did not speak english and I did not speak Bahasa. So kissed her bye because I do not want to practice sign language in the room. The other one wanted 2 mil for 1 shot. I would have agreed if her attitude was a bit more friendly or if I was that horny. Decided to head back to the hotel and told myself that "tonight I'll be 2 mil richer. " May be that me consoling myself so that I do not feel bad.

Day 4:

Visited the famous Alexis hotel and went straight to the 7th floor. Everything that has been said about the hotel is true. So I am not going to through the process. Reminded me of the fish bowls in Singapore and I did find the service to be somewhat mechanical. Sauna, room, shower, sex, shower, rating, kiss bye, drink, hangout & checkout. It is a great option for a quick day time release. During checkout they will produce a detailed break down receipt however you are not allowed to take the receipt with you. You just pay the amount. How weird? And I did notice that I was charged a tax on my tip amount. Besides alcohol, the breakdown was: Local girl (1. 4 mil), room (250 k? Tip (300 k) and tax for a 1-1. 5 hrs of fun. On my way back I was thinking that may be a 2 mil pull from BATS / CJ's is not a bad deal at all. Decided to visit Alexis in the future only on emergencies.

All in all, good trip. Hopefully I did not fuck up the market rate. Did not get a lot of time to review the pricing in the forums. If so, I apologize in advance. Next stop Dubai.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. The prices you paid were about right for the venues you visited, so I wouldn't worry about it. 1. 5 million for overnight from BATS is not bad at all these days, although there might be some who negotiate hard or show up when things are slow and can report they got a better price (but then there is the quality question as some of those who might report getting low prices consistently might not be getting the highest quality). In any event, it sounds like you had fun, which is the main thing.

Hello,

I'm an avid reader of this forum and will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in September can someone please tell me the current ongoing prices for places like Alexis, classic and Malioboro for one session because I don't want to overpay.

[QUOTE=FreeMonger;1919351]Hello,

I'm an avid reader of this forum and will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in September can someone please tell me the current ongoing prices for places like Alexis, classic and Malioboro for one session because I don't want to overpay.[/QUOTE]If you're an avid reader, you'd know the prices as they haven't changed in the past year or so.

I spent some time in Jakarta recently. Went to Classic, Travel, Malioboro, Kings Cross and Sumo. The latter two were best.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] On floor 5 the girls are less friendly and it is more difficult to interview, similar to Travel.

Travel was true to form, slightly prettier girls than Classic but difficult mamasans and hard work. Girls seem geared towards high-paying Asian customers. However, if one comes early in the evening one can have some success.

Malioboro is nice, more pricy than Classic and Travel. Note that has two separate parts, one more pure gogo club style, one more like Classic but with just a little gogo. The entrance to the latter closer to the street and is best for me, because I prefer selected from couches and having conversations, whereas in the former the music is louder, the tempo higher, the lights down etc. They are connected via an obscure corridor somewhere on the upper floors. One can end up spending quite a lot of money at Malioboro, especially if one is tempted to take one of the dancers to a room, as I was. And that can be difficult to resist because some of them are incredibly sexy, bouncy, energetic things.

As on my last trip, Kings Cross and Sumo, located a block apart in the Gelapa Gading area way out of the center of town, were my favorites. Prices vary, but are generally a bit above Classic and Travel without being unreasonable. When you walk in, the girls don't look all the great, but if you go for the ones who are interested in you you may have some beautiful experiences.

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My recent trip to Jakarta wasn't a very good experience, due to immigration. Just a warning to those who don't know this, carry your passport with you when you are outside your hotel. I got detained outside the Novotel by immigration who were not too pleasant. They insisted on seeing my passport which I didn't have on me and then they wouldn't let me get it from the room. So I was detained in the office fro 24 hours, until I got the hotel manager to bring my passport to me in the office. It really was a nightmare /.

Next topic the girls at Blok M seems to be improving a bit, there were many more selections this time around in the bars in Blok M. Lots of new faces around and of course they all seems to be stuck on this 1 M price tag. Did take my usual girl but she isn't my much fun, very nice to look at, can dance as well but a "no touch" experience in the room. I thought over time she would lighten up a bit but still no GFE with her after so long.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1924195]My recent trip to Jakarta wasn't a very good experience, due to immigration. Just a warning to those who don't know this, carry your passport with you when you are outside your hotel. I got detained outside the Novotel by immigration who were not too pleasant. They insisted on seeing my passport which I didn't have on me and then they wouldn't let me get it from the room. So I was detained in the office fro 24 hours, until I got the hotel manager to bring my passport to me in the office. It really was a nightmare /.

Next topic the girls at Blok M seems to be improving a bit, there were many more selections this time around in the bars in Blok M. Lots of new faces around and of course they all seems to be stuck on this 1 M price tag. Did take my usual girl but she isn't my much fun, very nice to look at, can dance as well but a "no touch" experience in the room. I thought over time she would lighten up a bit but still no GFE with her after so long.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your experience. I am curious though about how it came about that immigration (rather than the police) nabbed you outside the Novotel. If possible, could you provide some more detail about this given my previous experiences with the passport issue have always involved the police, not immigration?

In a way your post vindicates some of my earlier posts which stated I always (actually almost always) carry my passport with me when in Jakarta to avoid these sorts of situations. I have it in a passport holder that I keep in my front pocket but have attached to one of my belt loops for security (which is under my shirt tail). One of the yahoos here who seems to have nothing better to do than to criticize others' posts once posted that the fact I carried my passport with me meant I had no credibility on this board. I wish it was he, not you, who had been detained, but I suppose there is always hope for the future.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1924195]My recent trip to Jakarta wasn't a very good experience, due to immigration. Just a warning to those who don't know this, carry your passport with you when you are outside your hotel. I got detained outside the Novotel by immigration who were not too pleasant. They insisted on seeing my passport which I didn't have on me and then they wouldn't let me get it from the room. So I was detained in the office fro 24 hours, until I got the hotel manager to bring my passport to me in the office. It really was a nightmare /.[/QUOTE]Wow. What time of day / night did this happen? Did they demand a bribe at any point?

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1924257]S/One of the yahoos here who seems to have nothing better to do than to criticize others' posts once posted that the fact I carried my passport with me meant I had no credibility on this board. I wish it was he, not you, who had been detained, but I suppose there is always hope for the future.[/QUOTE]Can't believe someone here would have nothing better to do than criticize for not carrying a passport? I guess some people like to put others down to feel more important, as they have nothing else going on in their lives. Pretty sad if you ask me.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1893417]The only place I ever found in Jakarta where the girls will actually perform a true threesome where the girls will actually go down on each other as well is Hotel Melawai 6th floor Maribaya Massage.[/QUOTE]The Maribaya girls work together very well but even the famous Shella was a bit apprehensive when Sasa started licking her nipples.

Regards,

Ko

Hi All,

I had a few questions about my immigration issue so I will try to answer them now.

But first I saw a post about the threesome in Jakarta and as much as I would like to try this every time I go to Jakarta I can't seem to make it happen for the best result. About 1 year ago I tried 2 girls from the mama on Gajah Mada but it was a nightmare experience. And now I am concerned about the WOS in the Novotel as now I am known by everyone so what I do is surely passed around in the hotel.

Ok immigration details: I was leaving the Novotel on 26th July, 2016 around 11:45 pm (my usual time) on my way to Blok M. As I left the hotel I noticed a group of people with TV cameras out on the street in front of the hotel but I paid no attention to them and walked past. That's when several individuals claiming to be immigration officers approached me and asked for my passport, now I was still on Novotel property I didn't leave the hotel area when they approached me, as I didn't have my passport they told me I had to wait in the van that was parked on the street. While waiting they were manhandling several other tourists walking by on the street. We were taken to the immigration office in Kota and asked to wait there until the "boss" arrived. He did around 1:00 am and those who had their passports were processed first. There were about 45 individuals in the room, about 6 from the Novotel myself and 5 other Chinese (who had their passports). Others were from different hotels in the area.

In the office they were processing individuals at a very slow pace. Some of the others were from UK and other English speaking countries so we started to discuss among ourselves what was going on. Being held because we did have our passport and not being allowed to go and get it, really doesn't make any sense. Until one guy claimed that we would have to pay 250,000 IDR each as a fine to leave. But around 4:00 am they (immigration) decided that they would stop processing and that we would have to wait until the morning for when the "big boss" arrives. So once again we asked why can we not go and get our passports, no answer and at this point they (all of them) started to pretend that they can't speak English so they can't understand what we are asking.

At 9:00 am the next day some of the other individuals contacted their embassy and the embassies sent someone to help them out, but what the embassy individuals did was got to the hotels and bring the passports to the office. I contacted the Canadian embassy which was of no help whatsoever. On the trip by myself I was stuck as what to do. So I called the Novotel manager and he went to my room and sent the bellboy with my passport to the office. However the bellboy got the run around for about 3 hours (which I did not have any contact with him except by phone), after 3 hrs he called the manager who came down in person to speak with the whomever. He apparently made some progress as about 4 pm on Wednesday the "big boss. Stephen Gentes" came to speak with me to tell me that I would be processed later. Later was around 10:00 pm on Wednesday in which they checked / verified what they had to do and I was allowed to leave. The manager of the hotel really did help me out quite a bit and for that I am eternally grateful.

Someone asked about a bribe but I wasn't about to pay any bribes if that was ever a topic with me I would have called the hotel manager once again to intervene. But some of the other guys were telling me that they were told they had to pay 2. 5 M IDR to get released, he got this from his wife as she was discussing this with the officers. How true this is I don't know.

This is my very disappointing experience in Jakarta for July 2016, I have been coming here semi-annually for almost 10 years. Looks like I will have to choose BKK next time for my holidays.

I posted some more details about the experience with immigration, in 2 parts.

In your post you said that you always carry your passport, were you aware that you had to or were you just being cautious?

Reason why I asked, is while I was living in Bangkok I never carried my passport but had my drivers license on me at all times. When I was stopped by police this was enough for them when they checked. However it wasn't enough for the IDN immigration.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1924257]Sorry to hear about your experience. I am curious though about how it came about that immigration (rather than the police) nabbed you outside the Novotel. If possible, could you provide some more detail about this given my previous experiences with the passport issue have always involved the police, not immigration?

In a way your post vindicates some of my earlier posts which stated I always (actually almost always) carry my passport with me when in Jakarta to avoid these sorts of situations. I have it in a passport holder that I keep in my front pocket but have attached to one of my belt loops for security (which is under my shirt tail). One of the yahoos here who seems to have nothing better to do than to criticize others' posts once posted that the fact I carried my passport with me meant I had no credibility on this board. I wish it was he, not you, who had been detained, but I suppose there is always hope for the future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1926083]I posted some more details about the experience with immigration, in 2 parts.

In your post you said that you always carry your passport, were you aware that you had to or were you just being cautious?

Reason why I asked, is while I was living in Bangkok I never carried my passport but had my drivers license on me at all times. When I was stopped by police this was enough for them when they checked. However it wasn't enough for the IDN immigration.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. I used to carry a photocopy of the relevant portions of my passport. However, I once was stopped while in a Bluebird on Pangeran Jayakarta and the policeman said I needed my original passport and had a choice of paying him $100 US or "going to the office." I ended up negotiating the amount down to 100,000 rupiah, but found the incident unsettling, particularly given who knows what he would have done if I selected "going to the office"; I suppose there was an outside chance of having drugs planted on me or something similar.

Since that incident I do almost always carry my passport while in Jakarta. Although I have been stopped only one additional time (I noted where most of the stops in North Jakarta were being made and avoided them), showing my passport got me through that checkpoint. One might counter that if a policeman wants a bribe, he will find out a way even if one has his original passport with him, but I think the phrase "honor among thieves," might apply here, at least to some extent. Meaning even a corrupt policeman has to rationalize his own behavior, and adopt certain rules, such as "it is okay to solicit a bribe from someone who is breaking the law, but not from someone who is not. " It undoubtedly is a rule that does not apply 100 percent of the time but I suspect more often than not a policeman in Jakarta is not going to go out of their way to shake someone down who has their passport with them and is otherwise complying with the law.

So, I nearly always carry my passport while in Indonesia. In Thailand I never do owing to my assessment the risk is much lower although I am a bit concerned about whether things might at some point get a bit more difficult under the military dictatorship.

To all the people who live there what does the law say? Is it enough to carry a copy of passport with me in case there is a police check or not?

I don't want to carry my original passport at night since I don't want to lose it.

Corrupted cops in any country always try to scare tourists so they can bribe them more quickly. It s a common tactic.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1926540]To all the people who live there what does the law say? Is it enough to carry a copy of passport with me in case there is a police check or not?

I don't want to carry my original passport at night since I don't want to lose it.

Corrupted cops in any country always try to scare tourists so they can bribe them more quickly. It s a common tactic.[/QUOTE]If you are Caucasian, I think it may be safer to carry your passport, since you may be an easy target. I have yet to experience it since I am Asian and probably blend in better in the crowd. But never say never, knock on wood. Nonetheless, as the saying goes, a simple bribe will go a long away. I would assume Rp. 100 K will be more than enough for them if you are ever caught in a jam. After all, it's the endgame for all these corrupt people.