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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not the only one with that opinion, Daddy! Obviously you can't read!!!
Read below and you'll see others with the same opinion.
I'm guessing you're one of the those guys that does pay over the top for low quality pussy. If so, then you're "undesirable" and weak in the market place (not just my opinion. I'll speak for those that don't have the balls to say it!).[/QUOTE]
I'm not the one constantly complaining about the pussy, Amjeck, YOU ARE!
I've reported many times before ... I'm getting pretty 18 and 19 year olds who call me begging to come to my room to take care Daddy for 500 baht per pop. Would you consider that over the top? They probably wouldn't go with you at ANY price -- not with your fucked attitude about women.
What makes your taste in women so fucking exquisite anyway?
I bet I'm having one hell of a lot more fun here than you, Amjeck, and I bet the guys you insulted are too.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]I wrote it earlier: as a foreigner living here, I still consider myself a very privileged monger (as my own income is coming from abroad). [/QUOTE]
Dont take me as flaming but, even if I dont know what kind of income is coming from abroad (salry? pension? revenues?) it is a fact you are also judging to pay local costs with abroad income lol
If you say "one has to pay in relation with local costs" (and this we can accept), one has also to say, by living there, "one has to earn what the locals earn" :)
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]I'm not the one constantly complaining about the pussy, Amjeck, YOU ARE!
I've reported many times before ... I'm getting pretty 18 and 19 year olds who call me begging to come to my room to take care Daddy for 500 baht per pop. Would you consider that over the top? They probably wouldn't go with you at ANY price -- not with your fucked attitude about women.
What makes your taste in women so fucking exquisite anyway?
I bet I'm having one hell of a lot more fun here than you, Amjeck, and I bet the guys you insulted are too.[/QUOTE]
talk is cheap. show the pics. where are you finding the 18-19 yo's in pattaya these days?
I have no problems getting girls despite what you might think.
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Peace Be On you Both!
[QUOTE=Amjeck]talk is cheap. show the pics. where are you finding the 18-19 yo's in pattaya these days?
I have no problems getting girls despite what you might think.[/QUOTE]Amjeck and DaddyO- there are enough problems in life; dont add another one to your baggage! In your own ways u both are having Fun in LOS. Let it remain that way. Enjoy yourselves, stay happy, and PM me in case u know any sexy broad- I'm coming to BKK on 12 Sep.
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Hate to interrupt this scintillating exchange, but can someone give me directions from Nana to the playtime section of Saphan Kwai.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Henryv]Hate to interrupt this scintillating exchange, but can someone give me directions from Nana to the playtime section of Saphan Kwai.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Read [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=904081&#post904081"]this report[/url] (for instance). You may use the BTS Skytrain from Nana (E3) to Saphan Kwai (N7): [url]http://www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp[/url]
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]Sorry Goyave, I'm afraid we have been talking past each other. Let me try to explain my point again...[/QUOTE]
It seems that I have to explain mine again. English is not my native language, so, I probably was not clear enough, but maybe is it worth reading my previous posts again, as, for instance, I never wrote that Thailand "is going down the tubes" or that it is not a great destination for our hobby.
Actually, I am mainly speaking about various data such as the local cost-of-living, domestic purchasing power, etc.
Maybe should we now introduce a new concept, the "Local Pussy Index" (LPI)? That would take into account the local monthly average wage and the P4P prices, or, if you prefer, the time an individual has to work to buy some quality time with a prostitute (a ST session with a cute and young provider, for instance).
I will try to make it simple and clear with my poor English skills.
In Northeastern Thailand, eight years ago, a local unskilled construction worker was paid (approximately) 150 baht per day. Now, it's (approximately) 200 baht per day. Let's say, to simplify, that our construction worker was paying on average 300 baht for a ST session in a local brothel in year 2002, and that the price for the same service in the same establishment is 400 baht now. Despite the 100 baht increase, the "Local Pussy Index" for this guy at this specific location has not changed: he still needs to work two days (2 x 150 baht in 2002, 2 x 200 baht in 2010) to earn the price of a ST session there (300 baht in 2002, 400 baht in 2010). Therefore, the increase itself is not very relevant as his buying power (for the local pussy) is the same.
What I was trying to explain previously is that it is not the same story in the tourist-oriented P4P market, and especially in Bangkok. The situation has worsened really quickly in the recent years and the inflation rate in venues and for providers that mostly cater to the foreigners is really worrying, especially when the average quality of those providers is not better, but objectively lower in this market. Really. Beauty is subjective, of course, but just a few years ago, you would not have found so many mothers, and fatties, for instance, and the average age of the providers was lower too.
I am not saying that Thailand (as a whole) "is not all that good to visit", but that in the tourist-oriented locations, the quality of the providers is (on average) not as good as it was just a few years ago while the average price for their service (on this market) corresponds to a greater percentage of the local monthly average wage.
Again, that's not the same story in the Thai-oriented market. I even have noticed an improvement (in the quality of the services provided, mostly) in this market in the recent years.
You can't explain the difference by saying that I was "less jaded, less cynical, less demanding" in the past. I am speaking about what has happened in both markets during the same (and relatively short) period of time.
So, no, the Land of Smiles (as a whole) is not getting worse, but the tourist-oriented market surely is, and at a very rapid pace. Why? I explained that earlier (read again my previous reports if needed, I don't want to repeat myself again).
By the way, I am only 43-year old, my first sojourn in Thailand was in 1999 and I (choose to) live in this marvelous country since 2002. Therefore, I don't speak about how good or bad the situation was 30 years ago, but how it has evolved in the recent years.
I am a privileged monger and still very happy to live in Northeastern Thailand, but I would probably not be so happy if I were living in Bangkok with a [url="http://www.ajarn.com/help-and-guides/cost-of-living/nicholas/"]45,000 baht monthly income[/url], like many foreigners who work here (as teacher of English, for instance). Fortunately, my own revenues are higher and the market is not (yet?) spoiled where I live.
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Pooying Hunting: Night 2
Although a few others keep claiming that everything is going to hell in Bangkok, for me, at least, it is going to heaven.
Tonight, I went back to Nana Parking lot. I was afraid that it might rain a bit, which it did, but only a few drops. I usually just cruise past Landmark Hotel and on to Soi 4 where I, with great difficulty, given the massive traffic and stalls on the sidewalk, I manage to walk down checking out the girls. There seems to be all kinds. Some are obvious ladyboys which I avoid like the plague (my gaydar and katoey detector metre are switched on to maximum level here in Bangkok).
I spy upon a possibility. She seems to be my kind of girl: cute face and thin body but there are two obvious ladyboys with her. Thus, I don't wish to take chances. I continue up the street until there is no action and then I cross the road and go back up. There are girls of all shapes, tastes, and sizes beckoning to their dens. Other girls try to convince me of a massage. Meanwhile, a tuktak driver is trying to foist his collection of smut with the hopes of providing a wonderful time with some girls. I pass.
Eventually, I get to Nana Parking lot. I look around, see a couple of possibilities, but am not sure. As I walk past, a pleasant-looking girl comes up to me. At first, she seems to be of the jaded variety but as she responds positively to be spoken to in Thai, I stop and talk. She claims to love sex. Hmmm. Ok. I begin to see that she just might be the fun type and off we go.
I do not believe in just taking a girl off the street, take her to my room, copulate, and then throw her out. For me, that is just not fun or even human. We talk for nearly an hour about life, mostly in Thai but a bit in English as she is desperate to practice it.. She had been a seller at the MBK shopping centre but was discouraged by the 200 baht a day salary. She discovered that, despite her dark skin, Farangs liked her. She is cute and has a bubbly personality. Eventually, we get to the task but I am somewhat disappointed by her shaven vulva. Oh well. In any case, a good time was had by both of us. Really, Thailand is just getting better for me. I hope that others can say the same. Tomorris is my last nght in Bangkok for a bit. I hope to see what I can get near Gullivers.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Read [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=904081&#post904081"]this report[/url] (for instance). You may use the BTS Skytrain from Nana (E3) to Saphan Kwai (N7): [url]http://www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp[/url][/QUOTE]Right, or like this set of directions that was posted [b]before[/b] the link you just mentioned. Heh.:
[url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=903969&postcount=6714"]Barko's Saphan Kwai directions[/url]
This was last week when I landed up in Mumbai on an official trip. Was staying in one of the * hotel in andheri east. I have had some good experiences in Mumbai long ago (before I joined ISG) and hence jhonny was eager for some action. I regretted not having taken the time to PM some mumbaiwallas for some contacts. But I was dependant on one of my non-ISG friends who promised me action.
D-day. Disappointment as my friends contacts were not willing to venture out in the rain. I was all alone in the hotel when I thought it ie better to get down to basics. Checked locanto, CL and called a few numbers. Finally one of them struck. Some "bunty" guy promised a girl for 5k and he says he can get her come near the hotel I was staying. Only thing was he wanted my name/room number for verification. Took the risk and gave it.
Freshend up and went to the road outside the hotel and waited. I had planned to give her a 500 and send her off if she was not worth it. She called me when she was close-by and said she was in an auto. When she arrived I was impressed. She looked decent enought to sneak into the hotel.
We went up, took bath and freshened up. She was decent looking. 6 looks, great boobs and smooth skin. Had a long foreplay. She was not very comfortable with BJ but made it up in other positions. Finished in 1 hour and tipped her 500.
Overall
Looks 6
Attitude 8
Damages 5K+500 tip.
Got her number. Hope to use it again in Mumbai
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Thank you very much, in one short sentence you saved me who knows how long trying to google this info.
Gives me faith in the board.
[QUOTE=Goyave]Read [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=904081&#post904081"]this report[/url] (for instance). You may use the BTS Skytrain from Nana (E3) to Saphan Kwai (N7): [url]http://www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Martin00]Is this bar Pattaya or Bangkok?[/QUOTE]This is Bangkok. and it was $3400 baht (not $US)
Go to Patpong, walk past foodland on your right, then keep walking and carefully keep looking to your right. It is set back behind another bar, about 30 feet past Foodland
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[QUOTE=Goyave]to live in Northeastern Thailand[/QUOTE]Ah, now it becomes clear.
An expert on Bangkok who doesn't live here.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]We talk for nearly an hour[/QUOTE]You do realize of course the girls are there to find customers, pay their rent and not so much talk?
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Hummm
[QUOTE=Amjeck]The good old days are long gone and they ain't coming back! Best to just accept it for what it is now and prepare for everything to get more expensive and the girls to become more spoiled.[/QUOTE]I wonder though? How will Thailand be the only county on the planet that does not get hit by the economic down turn?
Once that happens, we might see some sense. But most guys just out to portray themselves as Massive Mandingo's buy flashing and spilling large amounts of money. It just proves that we are still in the middle ages mentally.
The money is a way to show power and "big dick" syndrome. I never flash or spill, and I am quite well. Uh hem.
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Hi guys. Long time monger here, but always stuck to Latin America. This will be my first time in Thailand coming up. RTFF and other sources and seems its possible to find nearly every kind of "specialty."
That in mind I want to ask if there are any specific spots to find lactating or especially pregnant working women. Is the idea of a bar for that kind of thing too far fetched? Any advice is appreciated.