Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Quiksilver;2636965]My guess is something along the lines of what the taxi driver said. Locals who probably just didn't like seeing someone piss there for whatever reason. If they had wanted to rob you, they would have attacked with your back to them and / or come much closer to you so that one could try to pickpocket you while you were occupied with the others.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is much easier to rob someone when they don't expect it. So yelling prior to robbing makes no sense and can trigger the fight or flight mechanism.

[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2636960]Glad you didn't fight. If you cause trouble, all gringos visiting there will pay directly or indirectly.

They are drug dealers and paying protection fee to the mafia, who pay to police.

The police there are on gangs' payroll, don't trust them.[/QUOTE]Didn't think about the effect it would have for others, but makes sense. The best way to win a fight is to not have one. Never know who has a knife or what. It's much harder to hit a running target than one standing still. Yes, I knew the police are on the take for pickpockets and other shit, which is why I wasn't surprised by their response. Yelling "ladrones" seems to help stop the attack though. It's stupid for business that they would hit rather than explain, but as the taxi driver said, 'they hit first, then explain later'. It's barbaric, but this isn't The Hamptons ffs. Don't think they were going to try to kill me though. Maybe just one smack and try to get me to give them money. Glad I made it out unscaved, but probably won't go back there for a while, especially at night.

Be careful out there. It seems this month is more prone to robberies than other months. A couple weeks ago while walking down the street at 3:00 am In Centro (not SF), two guys tried to block my path. One guy had missing teeth and looked like an addict. Did not feel right. Before he could get out a few words or get within 10 feet of me, I juked them then sprinted away. They yelled something in frustration. Fifteen minutes later they robbed a guy selling tinto for his cigarettes and cuatro mil using a knife. I was in OXXO and he came to tell the police, who were there drinking coffee. The police went after them in their moto, but they were gone.

Tip #1 for Santa Fe international pussy seekers.

A street girl in Santa Fe ask 40 mil = 11 $ (1 $=3,886.70 pesos).

When you are bargaining with them for 5 mil you are losing your face in front of a prostitute for 1 USD.

What you should do? Say I give you $5 tips if you do good.

More tips are coming.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2636875] with the last door charging 60 k and the first door 150 k for the standard service. ![/QUOTE]LOL.

I stay there for two weeks now and price is 50 k in all rooms.

How you pay triple then me?

Do you ask how much? This is probably the reason.

[QUOTE=SamPeter71;2635602]Any suggested places for covid testing that gives results in hours. Now that we have 24 he limit, looking for reliable sites. Preferably in Chapinero area or anywhere else is fine.[/QUOTE]Profamilia. CL 34 #14-52. Close to transmilenion Ave Caracas and 34 estacion. Only 5 mil Didi ride from CL59 and Septima. 90 mil and result in 30 min or so.

[QUOTE=Quiksilver;2636973]Great report and thanks! I'm so used to SF that I always skip these other places. Really going to have to give Mezzanine a go one of these trips. Sounds like you had an awesome time![/QUOTE]A few years back my wing man, who is 6'3 why 280 actually fell off the table. The room was so small you could almost touch both walls if you stretched out both of your arms. BUT it's always worth a trip I have seen a few all stars there could easily rate a solid 9. A lot of girls will travel from way down in the south of Bogota to work there and they tell their family they have a real job to go every day. This time in December in most of Latin and South America you can run into some very hot, non pros out trying to make Christmas money.

[QUOTE=BigGuy719;2637011]Yes, it is much easier to rob someone when they don't expect it. So yelling prior to robbing makes no sense and can trigger the fight or flight mechanism.

Didn't think about the effect it would have for others, but makes sense. The best way to win a fight is to not have one. Never know who has a knife or what. It's much harder to hit a running target than one standing still. Yes, I knew the police are on the take for pickpockets and other shit, which is why I wasn't surprised by their response. Yelling "ladrones" seems to help stop the attack though. It's stupid for business that they would hit rather than explain, but as the taxi driver said, 'they hit first, then explain later'. It's barbaric, but this isn't The Hamptons ffs. Don't think they were going to try to kill me though. Maybe just one smack and try to get me to give them money. Glad I made it out unscaved, but probably won't go back there for a while, especially at night.

Be careful out there. It seems this month is more prone to robberies than other months. A couple weeks ago while walking down the street at 3:00 am In Centro (not SF), two guys tried to block my path. One guy had missing teeth and looked like an addict. Did not feel right. Before he could get out a few words or get within 10 feet of me, I juked them then sprinted away. They yelled something in frustration. Fifteen minutes later they robbed a guy selling tinto for his cigarettes and cuatro mil using a knife. I was in OXXO and he came to tell the police, who were there drinking coffee. The police went after them in their moto, but they were gone.[/QUOTE]You go to poor countries, and you see the reason why they remain poor. Usually it is a vicious cycle among poverty, education and corruption.

The entire Centro is a lawless, anarchic area. It is an autonomous fiefdom of robbers and gangs.

[QUOTE=BigGuy719;2636802]I was taking a piss by the trees on Calle 22 Bis and Carrera 15 at 2:00 am On Friday, and about three to four guys started yelling. Honestly, could be either because they were yelling right when I started pissing from a distance. So I guess they don't like people pissing there.[/QUOTE]LOL. Same thing happened to me. Well almost the same. Last time I was there late one night I walked down one of those dark streets to find a place to do it. As soon as I was set someone from a distance started yelling at me. I just tucked it back in and walked off. After 16 years I still do not know the names of any of those streets.

[QUOTE=JazzyDaddy;2635885]Any jazz musicians or salseros that can provide info on open jams and best salsa clubs? Thanks in advance, I arrive next month.[/QUOTE]Area53 in galeria, close to El Campin. Not all Salsa but it is decent. Babou and Quiebracanto in La Candelaria.

I have RTFF the forum but requesting additional insight in to first trip questions-.

1. How do we broach question of allowing p4 p girls in to Airbnb with the hosts?. Are there particular areas where more Airbnb's are relaxed as to whether p4 p (street and online) girls can visit? Eg- chapinero central vs park 93?

2. How bad is the commute from 93 or mezzanine area to Santa Fe daily? Is it a good idea to stay in central chapinero and go up (mezzanine) and down (Santa Fe) ?

3. Is staying in IBIS museo good enough to meet SA girls outside and bring them in?

[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2636960]Glad you didn't fight. If you cause trouble, all gringos visiting there will pay directly or indirectly.

They are drug dealers and paying protection fee to the mafia, who pay to police.

The police there are on gangs' payroll, don't trust them.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I have also bowed-up on locals in Rio, Bogot and Mexico and, thankfully, the locals with whom I was with at the time, talked me down, de-escalated the situation and got me the F out of there. As my girl in Rio (who is former police) told me, we tourists never win these altercations. Almost all of the police in the locales I've referenced view these situations as a chance to rough-up / extort / take down an uppity gringo. It's best to fly low under the radar as much as possible.

Agree with Yossarian.

When travel it's best to fly under the radar, avoid altercations with locals, especially pissed off putas, and any interactions with policías. Remember what happened to the whitehouse's secret service guy in Cartagena? A whole bunch of agents and supervisors got fired from their fat jobs due to a screaming puta feeling cheated.

In my incident with puta and policía in front of iglesia Santa Cruz in plaza Botero, the puta was screaming at the top of her lungs, pointing at but not pursuing me. I had no idea of any precedents. I take pics anywhere I go. I could have just blended in the crowd and got off quietly, but I believe in journalistic rights, which may not exist in third world countries, and have been known to get journalists executed on the spot. Lucky the 2 policías had good humor, laughing at the pics of them, patrol car and putas all gathered at the church's front door. They looked embarrassed, deleted the pics, left a few and let me go. They acted professional and with restraints, shouting to the puta to shut up. I was lucky to get off, but will be more discreet and careful in future trips.

They later arrested that loud puta for something. Next couple days putas would walk past the church's courtyard but not stationing there, not leaning against the church.

The next day 2 cops on a motorbike questioned a local guy right at the church corner where I had bagged a few hot slim girls. The guy was explaining something to them with his phone but the older cop cuffed his right hand to his left, walked him to the station with the other cop following on the bike.

I would hate to share the filthy holding cell at the station with dozens criminals, waiting for the obese judge to eat, drink and fuck all his 10 young and hungry mistresses before he can hear my case.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2637649]I have RTFF the forum but requesting additional insight in to first trip questions-.

1. How do we broach question of allowing p4 p girls in to Airbnb with the hosts?. Are there particular areas where more Airbnb's are relaxed as to whether p4 p (street and online) girls can visit? Eg- chapinero central vs park 93?

2. How bad is the commute from 93 or mezzanine area to Santa Fe daily? Is it a good idea to stay in central chapinero and go up (mezzanine) and down (Santa Fe) ?

3. Is staying in IBIS museo good enough to meet SA girls outside and bring them in?[/QUOTE]1. Assuming you're not staying with a host in the same place, I personally have never had issues at any Bogota airbnb. I don't do it often and rather go to a love motel for safety reason ut I have done it. Just ask the girl to change into normal clothes. If they're coming to you, meet them outside at a coffee shop and enter the building together. You could also get an Airbnb with no security. This tends to be the case in the older / more centro part of Bogota like La Candelaria or some parts of Chapinero.

2. Distance wise, it's about 70 blocks. But more importantly, the traffic can be brutal during the day. Of course if you're going to SF at night, there will be far less traffic. Personally, I'd recommend staying closer to SF like in La Candelaria or Chapinero if you're planning to spend a lot of time in SF. Those areas can certainly be sketchier after dark than the area around 93. Neither are grittier than SF, so if you're going to bspendinga lot of time there anyways, you might as well be closer by.

3. Can't comment. Not familiar with IBIS.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2636875]Last time I was in Bogota I swore never to go back to Mezzanine because of those tiny uncomfortable rooms. Yet I found myself walking into the place again, multiple times.

The place seems more segregated than I remember, with the hottest chicks in the first room and progressive decline in beauty as you go towards the last door. The pricing also matches the progressive layers of subjective appeal, with the last door charging 60 k and the first door 150 k for the standard service. I opted for the first door, multiple times.

The two standouts were Leidi and Mia, both young and hot as hell. Leidi has a nice bubble but, speaks fluent English and is very polite, said she's college educated, which was believable. Good service. Mia was probably my best experience the entire trip. Very skilled sensual massage, mostly with her butt, followed by great energetic service. Highly recommended.

Went to Abejitas twice but only sessioned once with a pretty black skinny lady. Almost GFE service, really got into it.

Princesita is now called Piel De Miel. Sessioned here twice. The standout was Nicol who has worked here for at least a couple of years. Gives a muted but good service. The other lady (don't remember name) made me an unusual offer for such a place. A buffet of everything goes for an upcharge. I wasn't feeling like taking any wild risk so I declined. Standard session was still good.

Tried my staple eroticas Bogota three times, but unfortunately only one (a repeat) got on my excellent list. The other two were average at best; Jessica was GFE but a very lazy performer with questionable hygiene. Marcela was a tard better, but barely average by Bogota standards.

Happy mongering![/QUOTE]What is the adressof Mezzanine? I searched on Google, coudlnt find it.

It's Veracruz, not Santa Cruz, at Botero Plaza. Were you taking pics there? Very bad idea. Did you argue with putas rather than run away? Bad idea. They are constantly looking for preys for extortion. You were lucky that police intervened and acted fairly.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2637711]Agree with Yossarian.

When travel it's best to fly under the radar, avoid altercations with locals, especially pissed off putas, and any interactions with policas. Remember what happened to the whitehouse's secret service guy in Cartagena? A whole bunch of agents and supervisors got fired from their fat jobs due to a screaming puta feeling cheated.

In my incident with puta and polica in front of iglesia Santa Cruz in plaza Botero, the puta was screaming at the top of her lungs, pointing at but not pursuing me. I had no idea of any precedents. I take pics anywhere I go. I could have just blended in the crowd and got off quietly, but I believe in journalistic rights, which may not exist in third world countries, and have been known to get journalists executed on the spot. Lucky the 2 policas had good humor, laughing at the pics of them, patrol car and putas all gathered at the church's front door. They looked embarrassed, deleted the pics, left a few and let me go. They acted professional and with restraints, shouting to the puta to shut up. I was lucky to get off, but will be more discreet and careful in future trips.

They later arrested that loud puta for something. Next couple days putas would walk past the church's courtyard but not stationing there, not leaning against the church..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2638082]It's Veracruz, not Santa Cruz, at Botero Plaza. Were you taking pics there? Very bad idea. Did you argue with putas rather than run away? Bad idea. They are constantly looking for preys for extortion. You were lucky that police intervened and acted fairly.[/QUOTE]The putas will find a way to get even with him. Maybe we'll get to read about it, well one version of it.