Pattaya Reports

Actually the value of the Dollar, Yen, Won and Euro matter a lot, even to Thais, supposing they want to buy something not made in Thailand (which is a hell of a lot). They'll find that it takes a lot more Baht to buy some USA made product (and yes there still are many; the USA still leads the world in production believe it or not, making 20% of total world output) than it did a few years ago.

[quote]Am I an idiot as I fly business class and landing at the same time of the guy sitting in the back of the plane having paid 20% of my ticket?[/quote]Do you really want me to answer that?

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1324776]They might not have respected him but did not reject the money. You also take one extreme example. How many of these in a night? How many are going to those selected and exclusive places where spending 20. 000baht can be the norm. Those places are living just out of those guys. They provide them the environment they are looking for and the guys feed the pockets of those who make it happen. Anyone to blame here? But going back to everyday's life, who sets the boundary between being just a bit generous (and nobody complaining) and being a money waster? Am I an idiot as I fly business class and landing at the same time of the guy sitting in the back of the plane having paid 20% of my ticket? Might well be that that 20% value is possible because of the revenues coming from business class passengers.[/QUOTE]

Actually I am grateful to guys who fly business class. Due to those very expensive tickets, it is possible to find some cheap economy class tickets. ("Idiotic"? No, I will not call guys who fly business class at long distance flight as idiots. But those who fly business class for a half hour flight are -sorry I say it- idiots, and not anything else.)

I will not hesitate to call that guy as idiotic, that guy who spent around 20. 000 Bahts for playing "stone-scissior-paper". But at the same time, I am also grateful to those such idiotic guys. Just because that go-go bar (which was not that exclusive) didn't earn too much money from those 2 draught-beers I drank in happy hours. (Well, it was Beach Club, and I guess I spent only 60 Bahts or something like that while enjoying both dancing women and those "stone-scissior-paper"-game). So, that idiotic rich guy makes it possible, that I can enjoy the party, as a poor man. By the way, God bless him!

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather; 1324791]Actually I am grateful to guys who fly business class. Due to those very expensive tickets, it is possible to find some cheap economy class tickets. ("Idiotic"? No, I will not call guys who fly business class at long distance flight as idiots. But those who fly business class for a half hour flight are.sorry I say it- idiots, and not anything else.)

Cheers![/QUOTE]Don't want to turn this into an airfare debate, but sometime people flies business in a short leg as part of an international flight. Or buys a business class ticket as fully flexible and valid one year. A similar option in economy sometime costs more than the business class, believe it or not. Anyway I fly business class outside of my continent and economy within it. But if I take a connection flight I will be sitting in a business class for 40 or 60' too. And have a much larger baggage allowance. Not only because somebody pays my ticket, but also when I fly private. Still I am not keen to pay 1500baht bar fine and avoid those bars. But at the same time I don't allow the barfine to be the deal breaker if I bump into a girl I want and she works in a 1500baht barfine bar.

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather; 1324784]Right, the woman wants and needs 1000 Bahts (for LT) and 500 Bahts (for ST) , at least at Beach Road. But it matters for me if I need 25€ or 20€ to get those 1000 Bahts. As a result of currency fluctuation, I think I am not going to bar-fine a woman next time I am in Pattaya, but pick-up women from Beach Road.

And God bless those who have enough money to bar-fine even in most expensive places in Pattaya! I definetely respect rich people, and I hope rich people respect also poor people.

Cheers![/QUOTE]That is another side of the story and it is in your decision whether to take it or not, of course.

But the girl always asking 1000 baht before and still a 1000 baht now. Hr business might suffer if all don't want to spend 5 buck more than before and make the market a desert. It will still be up to her to stay still in 1000 or not. Unless you want to give her a lesson on currency economy rather than discussing whether she does CBJ or BBBJ

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1324808]Don't want to turn this into an airfare debate, but sometime people flies business in a short leg as part of an international flight. Or buys a business class ticket as fully flexible and valid one year. A similar option in economy sometime costs more than the business class, believe it or not. Anyway I fly business class outside of my continent and economy within it. But if I take a connection flight I will be sitting in a business class for 40 or 60' too. And have a much larger baggage allowance. Not only because somebody pays my ticket, but also when I fly private. Still I am not keen to pay 1500baht bar fine and avoid those bars. But at the same time I don't allow the barfine to be the deal breaker if I bump into a girl I want and she works in a 1500baht barfine bar.[/QUOTE]There is no need to justify buying a business ticket. Those in smelly, cramped, hot economy are just jealous.

("Idiotic"? No, I will not call guys who fly business class at long distance flight as idiots. But those who fly business class for a half hour flight are. Sorry I say it- idiots, and not anything else.)

Whatever.

Flying into BKK's SVB on any flight, long haul or 40 minutes, and not receiving the Premium Lane pass on board because your in the kennels in the back is, ehhhr, just a result of being cheap.

I consider it good business to pay well for stuff that's worth it and pretty dumb to spend it on some chick that's got a high price tagged to her titties just because she's in some gogo joint and not because she's any good at fcking!

Here end of the rant.

F)

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1324862]There is no need to justify buying a business ticket. Those in smelly, cramped, hot economy are just jealous.[/QUOTE]In China especially business class tickets are just a few dollars more than economy. I am talking about not pre-booked tickets on cheap economy fares.

I usually go to the airport and buy tickets there. I have done this many times because I am not sure when my business deals will be done. Hotels charge 50% of day charge only if you leave by 6 PM.

First ever report on ISG. Been reading like a crazy person the last 3 months preparing. I would like to give a special thanks to Jackson for this great forum and AMEX SPG for his great guide and reports which really helped a lot. I would also like to thank the guys on the hotel Pattaya forum for helping me choose my hotel and to the numerous legendary mongers who have posted in the Pattaya thread.

Am in Pattaya from the 8-15th September.

September 8th, Pattaya Day 1.

Arrived in Bangkok at 5. 30 am. Ride took 9 1/2 hours. Faster then expected. Did not get any sleep on the plane because the seat was terrible. Got the ticket cheap (860 USD).

Getting through customs and baggage handling was no problem at that hour so I was out looking for the pre-booked taxi by 6. 00 am. Taxi was not there yet but found him 15 minutes later. Arrived at the Marriott at 7. 30 am. Room was not ready but they gave me a temporary room so I could attempt to sleep until my room was ready at 10 am. Very nice of them. Couldn't sleep though so just rested.

Have read a lot on this forum about this being LOS and all so did not really get to reading more about the Thai people. Let's just say, to my experience so far keeping time is not one of their strong suits. By 11. 45 am I was in my very nice room, but my luggage was no where in sight despite being promised it would be right up. Waited 30 minutes. Called the reception and asked if it was coming up: "yes, yes sir straight away.".15 minutes later I wen't down to collect it myself. Being very tired I slept til 6 pm took a shower and wen't down to scope out the hotel grounds so to know the best path for bringing in they ladies. Had dinner at the hotel and by 8. 30 pm I was heading towards WS.

Note: Half way down BR I suddenly feel that my shorts are dropping. I lost some weight and now my trusted old shorts need a belt which I wasn't wearing. Did not want to go back so I just stuck my hands in my pockets and held on to the fabric. Made for an uncomfortable walk.

Reached WS and I was in shock. Between all the impressions and my shorts constantly sliding down it was quite overwhelming. I had a plan. I wanted to go to Windmill first and then to Baccara. I walked all they way to mixx disco, did not see windmill sign so turned back and wen't straight to Baccara instead.

Was there at 9pm, lots of people there. Was seated to the left of the stage from the entrance next to a gogo girl. I ordered a water and a beer. Girl starts talking to me. I told her it was hot in here so she pointed to the other side of the stage and said: "cooler". She took my beer and water and we went to the other side of the stage. I offered her a LD she said Tequila, I said no pick something else. I did not wan't her to down a watered down shot and then sit there drinking alone. She picked something in a tall glass 150 bath. We sat there for a while until it was her time to go on stage.

Her name was Chai, pronounced Cher, she was 23, implants, had one kid, did not show. Pointed to stage and said sister. Her sister I could see had kids and they had not been good to her figure.

She wen't did her thing. Gave me the opportunity to scope out her merchandise. Came back. She then asked: I go with you? I asked how much. She said: You pay bar 600 and me 2000 ST 3000 LT. I said 1500 ST. 2000 LT, she said: ok ST or LT. I said up to you. She looked confused but wen't to change.

I was really tired and I did not wan't to commit to a LT if she was not great.

As we walked back to the Hotel, she wanted to go see some Thai singer. I said no, first we go to room. On the way to Marriott, she gives certain signs that this is going to be ST. Talking on phone with her sister and I think I heard her say she was tired, but I did not care because so was I.

We get to the room, we shower, and get to bed. She sees my Stuff and says You Biiiig. I am really not! Well she proceeds to give a really nice BBBJ and just before I am about to pop I asked her to stop. I wanted to play with her pussy and body a bit, but she would not let me. I then decide that it is time for me to just pop then and get her out. She puts on the condom and I bang her really fast so to finish quick which I did. She seemed surprised I did not wan't to CIM which was kinda funny.

I say we finished for today you leave ok? She said ok and she goes to shower. She want's to give me her number and I pretend to write it down. She says: you call me tomorrow afternoon I come over. I say ok ok then she leaves. With 1500 plus a tip of 100.

My goals for the first day was met. Had my first LBFM in their native country and did it pretty much on my own terms.

Notes on Chai. Ok body but did not let me touch her hair (said it cost her 300 bath) or anything else besides her boobs. So unless you are looking for a nice BJ with CIM only I would steer clear. Maybe if I had taken her out partied and gotten her drunk she would have been more loose, but I would not bet on it.

Went to sleep at 12pm totally bombed out from traveling and the above mentioned.

[QUOTE=Freeler; 1324910] ("Idiotic"? No, I will not call guys who fly business class at long distance flight as idiots. But those who fly business class for a half hour flight are. Sorry I say it- idiots, and not anything else.)

Whatever.

Flying into BKK's SVB on any flight, long haul or 40 minutes, and not receiving the Premium Lane pass on board because your in the kennels in the back is, ehhhr, just a result of being cheap.

I consider it good business to pay well for stuff that's worth it and pretty dumb to spend it on some chick that's got a high price tagged to her titties just because she's in some gogo joint and not because she's any good at fcking!

Here end of the rant.

F) [/QUOTE]Well, I don't see any reason to discuss about flight tickets in a forum where we used to talk about mongering.

But I have to underline something: I was not speaking about half hour flight after flying let's say 11 hours flight to Bangkok, and let's say if you want to fly to Phuket (from Bangkok), so it can be cheap to fly business class in your case. But I was speaking about people who fly business class for eksempel from Berlin to Frankfurt, and that flight takes around half hour, and to pay so much money is idiotic. You may have another opinion. Cheers!

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1324862]There is no need to justify buying a business ticket. Those in smelly, cramped, hot economy are just jealous.[/QUOTE]I have never bought a business or first class ticket in my life. I have not flown in coach for nearly 10 years, including short hops.

Very few of the folks in the front of the plane paid the price for the seat. It's all about miles and upgrades. My last trip to LOS I splurged and cashed in some miles for 1st class. It cost me $100 in taxes. The retail price for the seat was over $18,000. Looking around the cabin, I doubt anyone paid full price.

Airline status is wonderful.

Too late.

And just try and get a simple bonafide mongering questions answered.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1324808]Don't want to turn this into an airfare debate,

This airline crap is completely fucking boring!

Who really gives a fuck how we get to LOS?

Pattaya girls accept anal sex?

[QUOTE=BambiJacobson; 1325021].

With 1500 plus a tip of 100.[/QUOTE]I don't understand this idea of tipping these women, especially this one which didn't sound that great.

You bought her a LD and your bar fined her. She got money from both of those. Then you agreed to a certain price for services, then you tipped her on top of that.

For some reason, unknown even to myself, I will only tip a woman in which you pay the house for the entire service (Eden, Devils Den, Bliss,.). But when you negotiate a price with the woman directly, I really don't feel the need to tip. Doing so only drives the price up for the future.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1325228]This airline crap is completely fucking boring!

Who really gives a fuck how we get to LOS?[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's true.

By the way, the first woman has very nice tattoos. (And now I don't really hope I start a discussion about tattoos.)