Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3082521]I would definitely repeat the first six on the list I sent if they are still open. In the end, you really only need one or two good casas because each casa / spa usually has 8-10 girls depending on time of the day, and you can keep rotating between them. When I was there last time, I liked one Amigas Sexy so much, it was almost like a college girls' dormitory that I ended up spending six hours there with four different girls. They became friendly, watching TV and hanging out and having drinks with the remaining girls. If I get bored, I would walk over to Zandaly which is a short two blocks away for a different scene.[/QUOTE]Super helpful!

Sounds like Cleops and Princessa Linda in Monterrey MX.

In your opinion how do these Casas compare?

Getting ready for my annual trip to MDE plus maybe CTG in the mix, from what I've read the scene has gotten worse? It's shifted to online now? I feel as if every year there's a new "strategy" for the game but I guess that's the name of the game is too adapt. If anyone has had boots on the ground recently I'd appreciate some advice last time I was over there it was tinder is a no go but now everyone says it's the way to go? They just started implementing the neon green jacket mfs. Hopefully the Parque isn't too bad as that was my primary place of browsing I like to get eyes on if you know what I mean. Much appreciated for the info and hope there's still fun to be had (fingers crossed) if the scene is online now (I hope not) a few pointers would help.

A buddy flew in to medellin to take advantage of the US holiday weekend. He said obviously significantly less dudes on the plane than his last flight in a few months ago. Weak dollar probably a big factor, so less newbies making the trip as its not cheap anymore. We hit centro Thursday and Friday nights and sifted through the rift raft fatties, regular hardcores and fuglies and found two young pretty venezolanas just cruising through Botero plaza running errands Friday evening so we chatted them up. 20 and 22 year old, nicely dressed, minimal makeup, all natural beauties. We took them to grab some chinese food and then it was off to Ibiza motel. 200 mil to each, total GFE, we were there 3 hours with them, cut them loose and headed to the park around 11. Mostly the same girls but we did see a few new faces. That's our gameplan, search for the part timers. The 2 young venezolanas will be repeats for sure.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3082540]Super helpful!

Sounds like Cleops and Princessa Linda in Monterrey MX.

In your opinion how do these Casas compare?[/QUOTE]I've been only to Cleops in Monterrey, but been a few times to Sexy Amigas, Zandaly, New Life in Medellin. They all have a different vibes, I liked Sexy Amigas and Zandaly the most. Sexy Amigas has younger and petite and young girls, and Zandaly has bit older and plus size yet beautiful women.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3083170]I've been only to Cleops in Monterrey, but been a few times to Sexy Amigas, Zandaly, New Life in Medellin. They all have a different vibes, I liked Sexy Amigas and Zandaly the most. Sexy Amigas has younger and petite and young girls, and Zandaly has bit older and plus size yet beautiful women.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I really appreciate the perspective and will hit those up based on your detailed / concise report!

I saw your posts on Barranquilla- would a day trip or 2 days there make sense? Quality, price, variety?

I'm here now in Centro, got here yesterday afternoon. The party's over. I've been here 6 times over the past 3 years, so I can speak on changes I'm seeing. Everything has become much more expensive. For one thing, Spirit Airlines is gone / bankrupt / out of business, which was the absolute cheapest way to get here from the US. I had to take Delta and it was almost double the price I was usually paying. Also, the dollar is getting absolutely crushed against the Colombian peso, so it has gone from $1 USD = $4,000+ COP last year to $1 USD = $3,100 COP now and still getting worse by the day. I've never seen the USD do this. Also, the Colombian minimum wage went up this year with the previous president (Petro), so everything is more expensive because of the inflation it caused (in addition to the inflation they were already experiencing). Especially hotels, food, etc. And since the new president (El Tigre) got in a month ago, I have been told by locals (and am already seeing myself) that every day the cops are constantly swarming dudes / arresting them and jailing / then deporting girls without their working papers, which is a lot of the Venezuelan girls. What's left is a bunch of fat girls, ugly girls, and old ladies. And at least a third of them are not even real "girls" if you know what I mean. That has increased dramatically for some reason as well since I was last here in March. I haven't even seen anyone that I'm interested in yet, so I haven't even asked about chica prices. But I'm sure that's way up too. I also haven't seen another foreigner yet. They've probably left or aren't coming for all the reasons I just mentioned. And maybe the best looking girls are just doing OnlyFans now instead because they realize how much more money they can make online than on the street. On my plane over, I only saw Colombians on it. I don't mean to ramble, but in summary what I am seeing now are much higher prices with much lower quality as well, which is a terrible combination.

Is anyone exploring any new cities or countries for the hobby since Medellin is dying off? Feel free to post here or DM me.

[QUOTE=KevinHodge;3083266]I'm here now in Centro, got here yesterday afternoon. The party's over. I've been here 6 times over the past 3 years, so I can speak on changes I'm seeing. Everything has become much more expensive. For one thing, Spirit Airlines is gone / bankrupt / out of business, which was the absolute cheapest way to get here from the US. I had to take Delta and it was almost double the price I was usually paying. Also, the dollar is getting absolutely crushed against the Colombian peso, so it has gone from $1 USD = $4,000+ COP last year to $1 USD = $3,100 COP now and still getting worse by the day. I've never seen the USD do this. Also, the Colombian minimum wage went up this year with the previous president (Petro), so everything is more expensive because of the inflation it caused (in addition to the inflation they were already experiencing). Especially hotels, food, etc. And since the new president (El Tigre) got in a month ago, I have been told by locals (and am already seeing myself) that every day the cops are constantly swarming dudes / arresting them and jailing / then deporting girls without their working papers, which is a lot of the Venezuelan girls. What's left is a bunch of fat girls, ugly girls, and old ladies. And at least a third of them are not even real "girls" if you know what I mean. That has increased dramatically for some reason as well since I was last here in March. I haven't even seen anyone that I'm interested in yet, so I haven't even asked about chica prices. But I'm sure that's way up too. I also haven't seen another foreigner yet. They've probably left or aren't coming for all the reasons I just mentioned..[/QUOTE]This is not an exaggeration. I have been here for a week and there is something different. Lot's of Trans people taking over the prime real estate. It's very slim pickings now. I went on Friday and Saturday and had to leave. It's really bad since Lleras is even worse.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083186]Thanks. I really appreciate the perspective and will hit those up based on your detailed / concise report!

I saw your posts on Barranquilla- would a day trip or 2 days there make sense? Quality, price, variety?[/QUOTE]I generally plan for three days in each city. If you are short on time, two days can work, but I definitely wouldn't recommend doing it as a day trip.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3083351]I generally plan for three days in each city. If you are short on time, two days can work, but I definitely wouldn't recommend doing it as a day trip.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I was thinking 2 days in MDE and 2 in Barranquilla.

Do you have a preference? MDE or Barranquilla?

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083364]That's exactly what I was thinking 2 days in MDE and 2 in Barranquilla.

Do you have a preference? MDE or Barranquilla?[/QUOTE]

I always enjoy MDE, the weather, overall quality, vibe, but I do need to stay guarded and aware to avoid getting robbed, scoped, especially the last few years with so many bad incidents. BAQ is more laid back punting, but the overall quality and infrastructure don't quite match MDE. If you only have 4 days, just spend the entire time in MDE, given the travel time, it's not worth splitting the trip between the two. If you have 5 days or more, you can consider splitting the time, but plan to fly in BAQ first to avoid long airport immigration wait times in MDE.

[QUOTE=KevinHodge;3083266]I'm here now in Centro, got here yesterday afternoon. The party's over. I've been here 6 times over the past 3 years, so I can speak on changes I'm seeing. Everything has become much more expensive. For one thing, Spirit Airlines is gone / bankrupt / out of business, which was the absolute cheapest way to get here from the US. I had to take Delta and it was almost double the price I was usually paying. Also, the dollar is getting absolutely crushed against the Colombian peso, so it has gone from $1 USD = $4,000+ COP last year to $1 USD = $3,100 COP now and still getting worse by the day. I've never seen the USD do this. Also, the Colombian minimum wage went up this year with the previous president (Petro), so everything is more expensive because of the inflation it caused (in addition to the inflation they were already experiencing). Especially hotels, food, etc. And since the new president (El Tigre) got in a month ago, I have been told by locals (and am already seeing myself) that every day the cops are constantly swarming dudes / arresting them and jailing / then deporting girls without their working papers, which is a lot of the Venezuelan girls. What's left is a bunch of fat girls, ugly girls, and old ladies. And at least a third of them are not even real "girls" if you know what I mean..[/QUOTE]Another update on the ground in Centro. The cops basically now have a New York style "Stop and Frisk" policy. Yesterday, I was literally sitting down in the park doing nothing drinking a lemonade from a vendor. No drugs (I've never even done drugs, smoked, or drank), no weapons, not even getting with girls. 5 cops then circled me asking me for my ID (my passport), frisked me, checked my pockets (of course I had nothing), took pictures of me and my passport, asked for a picture of my hotel accommodations, then entered my name and passport info into some system. Then they arrested the dude standing next to me for no good reason that I could tell and also questioned / frisked / took the information of one working girl standing next to me as well. I asked around and they said this is now "normal". But then the cops don't even really stop the crime. That night, I saw two guys with huge knives arguing and squaring up to get into a knife fight. They were waving them around at each other when a cop motorcycle with two cops on it rode right by them, saw them, and did / said nothing.

200 k each I'm a little surprised you were able to get them to leave your side. That's not a payday they are going to get again soon in Centro.

[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3083139]A buddy flew in to medellin to take advantage of the US holiday weekend. He said obviously significantly less dudes on the plane than his last flight in a few months ago. Weak dollar probably a big factor, so less newbies making the trip as its not cheap anymore. We hit centro Thursday and Friday nights and sifted through the rift raft fatties, regular hardcores and fuglies and found two young pretty venezolanas just cruising through Botero plaza running errands Friday evening so we chatted them up. 20 and 22 year old, nicely dressed, minimal makeup, all natural beauties. We took them to grab some chinese food and then it was off to Ibiza motel. 200 mil to each, total GFE, we were there 3 hours with them, cut them loose and headed to the park around 11. Mostly the same girls but we did see a few new faces. That's our gameplan, search for the part timers. The 2 young venezolanas will be repeats for sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3083441]I always enjoy MDE, the weather, overall quality, vibe, but I do need to stay guarded and aware to avoid getting robbed, scoped, especially the last few years with so many bad incidents. BAQ is more laid back punting, but the overall quality and infrastructure don't quite match MDE. If you only have 4 days, just spend the entire time in MDE, given the travel time, it's not worth splitting the trip between the two. If you have 5 days or more, you can consider splitting the time, but plan to fly in BAQ first to avoid long airport immigration wait times in MDE.[/QUOTE]Extremely helpful! Thanks for the great advice. I'll stick to just MDE. 4 days.

I was very much curious about the quality.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083486]Extremely helpful! Thanks for the great advice. I'll stick to just MDE. 4 days.

I was very much curious about the quality.[/QUOTE]MDE has the most beautiful women in Colombia, they are known as Paisas, it may be due to the eternal spring weather, mountainous region, even the Bogota women are envious cause their guys get stolen from them. BAQ women are bit darker skin tones, higher percentage of Afro-Colombians.

Here is my rank by cities: Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, Bogota, Bucaramanga, Barranquilla, Santa Marta.

[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3083139]A buddy flew in to medellin to take advantage of the US holiday weekend. He said obviously significantly less dudes on the plane than his last flight in a few months ago. Weak dollar probably a big factor, so less newbies making the trip as its not cheap anymore. We hit centro Thursday and Friday nights and sifted through the rift raft fatties, regular hardcores and fuglies and found two young pretty venezolanas just cruising through Botero plaza running errands Friday evening so we chatted them up. 20 and 22 year old, nicely dressed, minimal makeup, all natural beauties. We took them to grab some chinese food and then it was off to Ibiza motel. 200 mil to each, total GFE, we were there 3 hours with them, cut them loose and headed to the park around 11. Mostly the same girls but we did see a few new faces. That's our gameplan, search for the part timers. The 2 young venezolanas will be repeats for sure.[/QUOTE]I returned yesterday. First time back since the earthquake. Definitely less people on my flight. Flight prices are higher, especially after the demise of Spirit. Weak dollar, inflation and tourists being stopped at the airport are probably all factors. Was still a line on the tourist side of immigration, but not as bad as I've seen it in the past.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083364]That's exactly what I was thinking 2 days in MDE and 2 in Barranquilla. Do you have a preference? MDE or Barranquilla?[/QUOTE]If you do not know Colombia, then I would say stay away from Barranquilla. I go there the most, but it is not a tourist city. If you are a tourist, then you will be bored there for 23 hours out of 24.

Frontier Announces Major International Expansion With First-Ever Service to Colombia.

Nonstop routes from Orlando International Airport to Cartagena, Medellin, and Bogota, Colombia, launching in December.

[URL]https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-announces-major-international-expansion-with-first-ever-service-to-colombia/[/URL]

Bella 190 K + 60 K oral natural.

The garden (Poblado location).

I've seen girls at the garden last year when they only had the spot in las Palmas. It was gorgeous spa like vibes with great views and beds. This location is ground floor with 2 levels, while not as nice they still make an effort to give big large beds and nice lighting. The reputation of the garden is to always have these thin Flaka Lolita types that are just starting the university. I read about Bella online in other forums and they said her face wasn't that pretty. They were wrong, she has a very angelic face but with nice full lips. I arrive and this 5 1 90 lb girl greets me. We hug, go into the room. I give her the $$ and she disappears for 5 min. It's a bit hot as I wait for her to come back and cut on the fan. She is wearing sexy black lingere that barely covers her perky A cups. She sits next to the bed with me and talk a bit. She wants to connect before we start to bang. We do some kissing in between getting to know each other. She's 18 and has been working there less than a month. She's trying to open a salon and uses the money to fund it. (Typical dream of a Prepago) she doesn't smoke or do anything besides socially drink. She says I'm the second foreigner and loves looking at my eyes. We start touching and kissing more, and get undresssed. I can see her puffy 18 yo tits and lick her nipples gently and she starts to shiver. She smells amazing and I make my way down. She has a perfect tiny pussy with light brown lips and pure pink inside. I really take my time licking and sucking her clit but make sure not to put my fingers inside. (Most girls don't want that) she really enjoys it and I do it more then I though we would. Then it's my turn, she teases my boxers and grabs my cock on the outside with her teeth. I take them off and she smiles at me as she slowly kisses around it. She visually inspected my cock and She didn't even use an alcohol wipe and just went straight into putting it into her mouth. She was soo gentle and slow with it, as I watched her young face with a cock in her mouth I smiled at her with joy, making eye contact. She must have sucked me almost 8 minutes, ball licking, stroking that I just had to fuck her. She puts on the rubber and we start with me on top. I had to take my time getting it inside her but she opened up, she was sooo wet that we didn't even use lube, then we did it on the side, lots of kissing and passion in between the fucking. I went slow, fast and rubbed her little clit. I then put her on the edge of the bed with her legs up on my shoulders. She was really enjoying it and I could see those big lips licking with pleasure. Finally we went in Quattro and by this time I was soo build up. I was going to try and cum on her tits but the feeling of ramming her from behind and watching her tiny pussy take it all caused me to just explode in the rubber. We were both sweaty as fuck, we kissed more, then went to take a shower. We hung outside downstairs after and she did hit this cotton candy vape. She was sooo cute. We kissed a bit more as my taxi arrived and I promised we would see each other again. (I did and I'll have a follow up to that).

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083602]Bella 190 K + 60 K oral natural.

The garden (Poblado location).

I've seen girls at the garden last year when they only had the spot in las Palmas. It was gorgeous spa like vibes with great views and beds. This location is ground floor with 2 levels, while not as nice they still make an effort to give big large beds and nice lighting. The reputation of the garden is to always have these thin Flaka Lolita types that are just starting the university. I read about Bella online in other forums and they said her face wasn't that pretty. They were wrong, she has a very angelic face but with nice full lips. I arrive and this 5 1 90 lb girl greets me. We hug, go into the room. I give her the $$ and she disappears for 5 min. It's a bit hot as I wait for her to come back and cut on the fan. She is wearing sexy black lingere that barely covers her perky A cups. She sits next to the bed with me and talk a bit. She wants to connect before we start to bang. We do some kissing in between getting to know each other. She's 18 and has been working there less than a month. She's trying to open a salon and uses the money to fund it. (Typical dream of a Prepago) she doesn't smoke or do anything besides socially drink. She says I'm the second foreigner and loves looking at my eyes. We start touching and kissing more, and get undresssed. I can see her puffy 18 yo tits and lick her nipples gently and she starts to shiver. She smells amazing and I make my way down. She has a perfect tiny pussy with light brown lips and pure pink inside. I really take my time licking and sucking her clit but make sure not to put my fingers inside. (Most girls don't want that) she really enjoys it and I do it more then I though we would. Then it's my turn, she teases my boxers and grabs my cock on the outside with her teeth. I take them off and she smiles at me as she slowly kisses around it. She visually inspected my cock and She didn't even use an alcohol wipe and just went straight into putting it into her mouth. She was soo gentle and slow with it, as I watched her young face with a cock in her mouth I smiled at her with joy, making eye contact. She must have sucked me almost 8 minutes, ball licking, stroking that I just had to fuck her. She puts on the rubber and we start with me on top. I had to take my time getting it inside her but she opened up, she was sooo wet that we didn't even use lube, then we did it on the side, lots of kissing and passion in between the fucking. I went slow, fast and rubbed her little clit. I then put her on the edge of the bed with her legs up on my shoulders. She was really enjoying it and I could see those big lips licking with pleasure. Finally we went in Quattro and by this time I was soo build up. I was going to try and cum on her tits but the feeling of ramming her from behind and watching her tiny pussy take it all caused me to just explode in the rubber. We were both sweaty as fuck, we kissed more, then went to take a shower. We hung outside downstairs after and she did hit this cotton candy vape. She was sooo cute. We kissed a bit more as my taxi arrived and I promised we would see each other again. (I did and I'll have a follow up to that).[/QUOTE]Great report. Will be in MDE for the first time next week. Will check out. Does the garden have a telegram or WA?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3083575]If you do not know Colombia, then I would say stay away from Barranquilla. I go there the most, but it is not a tourist city. If you are a tourist, then you will be bored there for 23 hours out of 24.[/QUOTE]Really appreciate it! I like low key and the local non-tourist vibe but do BRQ next time.

Thanks for great info.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3083505]MDE has the most beautiful women in Colombia, they are known as Paisas, it may be due to the eternal spring weather, mountainous region, even the Bogota women are envious cause their guys get stolen from them. BAQ women are bit darker skin tones, higher percentage of Afro-Colombians.

Here is my rank by cities: Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, Bogota, Bucaramanga, Barranquilla, Santa Marta.[/QUOTE]Thanks June Fly!

Appreciate the ranking and with your comment on BOG I am really excited about MDE.

I visited BOG last year for a few days for work and was very disappointed with the quality.

Very nice but not beautiful at all. - exceptions of course but in general I was unimpressed.

So I saw an ad for this new girl in casa Ella's erotic for a girl named Linda. I saw the same ad for another casa called Misa erotica. Basically Ella's solicistes for this other house as an alternative location, BUT if you book directly with Musa Erotica you get the better discount rate (like 170 K + 60 K oral natural) anyway.

I arrive in this corner house in Laurles next to barrio Santa Monica. I knock, wait 2 minutes and finally the door opens, not the girl I was expecting (but it was Sofia the girl with bolt ONS,) I said I was here for linda. I wait sitdown and appears linda. She is super cute, dressed in red but has dragon tattoos across the side of her ass and some other tattoos.

On her body. It's not over done. Her face is very unique, sort of wide and her short hair really shows it off. I go upstairs, hand her the money and she leaves for 5 minutes. It's a hot room.

With a fan and a bed. She comes back, we start to kiss. Let me tell you, it's super GFE kissing, we had lots of chemistry. She knew all the spots and before we even got fully nude we did like 20 minutes of foreplay. Her body is jiggly but natural. She isn't fat at all just has nice ammount of squeeze. She hasn't had kids but her tits are full and real. She likes to use the mirror to watch herself, especially when it comes to sucking me off. She prob gave me a long slow BJ that lasted 12 minutes. I was rock hard, I told her I wanted to fuck and I was on top about to put the rubber on. We had a good vibe and she let me go skin to skin with my dick rubbing her clit. We trusted each other and it felt more like a girl you meet at a bar and less a girl you pay for. I strap up and we go at it hard like lovers for a good 20 + minutes. Eventually I want to finish on her tits and she lays back with her legs open so I can play with her pussy and look at the mirror while she jerks a huge load on her nice see cup tits. I shoot a 5 roppper all over her and she is soo enthusiastic. I clean up, go next door to shower. There is 10 min left and she uses it to stroke my hair and kiss me like a long lost lover. She is soo passionate and not the typical paisa you see here. She is from Santa Fe antioquia (a true country girl) would repeat 1000%!

Luica 180 k + 60 K oral natural.

I saw Luica who formerly went by Valeria. Now at Elle erotic I saw her last year when she worked at a different casa in LOS colores. We had really good chemistry last time so I was happy to see her again. I messaged her # before I messaged elle and confirms it was her. She is a 5 2 Venezuelan with a high sex drive. I arrived in the new location in Laurles which is not as nice as the Belen location, however it still had a nice big bed. She sees me in the room and not only does she know me but remembers my real name! I forgot we used to text a lot so it was all coming back to me. Before I could even say anything she planted a huge kiss on me and her tiny freckle nose buttoned up. She has this intresting mole on her face as well that looks sexy and knows how to give you those sex eyes. We just started touching and grabbing but I had to give her the cash first (rarity but I guess it's casa rules) anyway she comes back in and starts dancing with me, rubbing her cute ass into my.

Already effect cock. She turns around and slips her plump but tiny be cup titties in my face. She doesn't have kids but has those plum like tits. I'm pretty grabby with her and before.

Long we are both naked on the bed standing up. She starts to go down on me and just looks up and sucks and spits on it. Slurp, suck spit, she is a nasty blowjob kinda girl. She is getting wet too and rubbing her pussy on my leg while sucking me. I just have to fuck her. She straps me up and we just start going hard core in doggy. I can see her asshome gets some play from the opening while I fuck her pussy. We then go to her on top.

Then missionary and then on the side. Finally I want to pop and we stand back up again. She sucks me and simulates what it would be like to cum in her face. I get close and as I pop she lets.

Me shoot a fat load all over her be size tits. It was amazing! We cleaned up then I went out to take a quick shower. We just kept kissing again and she was happy to try and suck me off again. She said I taste delicious and there was a little bit of the cum from before that she touched her tounge to and played with it. Such a lovely ****! She is going to leave the country soon so you better have your taste before this little horny Venezuelan bounces!

It was only a matter of time until other airlines filled in the routes that Spirit abandoned.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3083592]Frontier Announces Major International Expansion With First-Ever Service to Colombia.

Nonstop routes from Orlando International Airport to Cartagena, Medellin, and Bogota, Colombia, launching in December.

[URL]https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-announces-major-international-expansion-with-first-ever-service-to-colombia/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083664]Luica 180 k + 60 K oral natural.

I saw Luica who formerly went by Valeria. Now at Elle erotic I saw her last year when she worked at a different casa in LOS colores. We had really good chemistry last time so I was happy to see her again. I messaged her # before I messaged elle and confirms it was her. She is a 5 2 Venezuelan with a high sex drive. I arrived in the new location in Laurles which is not as nice as the Belen location, however it still had a nice big bed. She sees me in the room and not only does she know me but remembers my real name! I forgot we used to text a lot so it was all coming back to me. Before I could even say anything she planted a huge kiss on me and her tiny freckle nose buttoned up. She has this intresting mole on her face as well that looks sexy and knows how to give you those sex eyes. We just started touching and grabbing but I had to give her the cash first (rarity but I guess it's casa rules) anyway she comes back in and starts dancing with me, rubbing her cute ass into my.

Already effect cock. She turns around and slips her plump but tiny be cup titties in my face. She doesn't have kids but has those plum like tits. I'm pretty grabby with her and before.

Long we are both naked on the bed standing up. She starts to go down on me and just looks up and sucks and spits on it. Slurp, suck spit, she is a nasty blowjob kinda girl. She is getting wet too and rubbing her pussy on my leg while sucking me. I just have to fuck her. She straps me up and we just start going hard core in doggy. I can see her asshome gets some play from the opening while I fuck her pussy. We then go to her on top.

Then missionary and then on the side. Finally I want to pop and we stand back up again. She sucks me and simulates what it would be like to cum in her face. I get close and as I pop she lets.

Me shoot a fat load all over her be size tits. It was amazing! We cleaned up then I went out to take a quick shower. We just kept kissing again and she was happy to try and suck me off again. She said I taste delicious and there was a little bit of the cum from before that she touched her tounge to and played with it. Such a lovely ****! She is going to leave the country soon so you better have your taste before this little horny Venezuelan bounces![/QUOTE]With these Casas. Is it one round in the hour?

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3083441]I always enjoy MDE, the weather, overall quality, vibe, but I do need to stay guarded and aware to avoid getting robbed, scoped, especially the last few years with so many bad incidents. BAQ is more laid back punting, but the overall quality and infrastructure don't quite match MDE. If you only have 4 days, just spend the entire time in MDE, given the travel time, it's not worth splitting the trip between the two. If you have 5 days or more, you can consider splitting the time, but plan to fly in BAQ first to avoid long airport immigration wait times in MDE.[/QUOTE]As far as getting scoped is it typically a spiked beverage?

Also I'm checking out Mileroticos for a threesome and see a number of independents offering it. Have you had any positive experiences with Mileroticos?

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083728]With these Casas. Is it one round in the hour?[/QUOTE]They will give you two "dos relations".

I just usually don't have the need for that and would rather have a longer session and then relax etc.

Aura 190 k + 60 K oral natural the garden.

I had luck with Bella but wanted someone with bigger tits, well I got that with Aura. She is Coasteo and if you know anything about those types they always have big natural tits. I arrive at the Poblado location and she opens the door. I won't lie, her face is nothing to write home about however if you just want tits and ass to grab onto, she is your girl. She is darker then the photos let on, more Carmel but She is all natural, taller than the normal Lolita but has a little bit of hair on her pussy. We sit on the bed and she wants to talk to get a better connection between us. This seems to be a running theme in the casa so luckily my Spanish is conversational enough to talk with her. We start kissing and she has big suckable lips. Her BJ was very smooth but she did wipe my dick a few times to make sure it was super clean. I get her puss a couple licks on her clit hit the stubles her my face a bit. I strapped up and started banging. The best position was her on sideways doggy style so I could see her face and tits rock as I slapped and grabbed her huge ass. We do a couple more positions but honestly I didn't feel as attracted to her as other girls at the garden. I finished with her giving me a HJ while kissing me and then I took a shower and got a taxi home. All in all ok but not my type to repeat.

Just look up the garden spa. For some reason the photo upload isn't working right now.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083621]Great report. Will be in MDE for the first time next week. Will check out. Does the garden have a telegram or WA?[/QUOTE]Yeah just google the garden spa, they have both a whatsapp and telegram and are super professional with answering and take their time to be avaiable.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083741]Yeah just google the garden spa, they have both a whatsapp and telegram and are super professional with answering and take their time to be avaiable.[/QUOTE]Found it thanks!

Oh boy. So, I tried to book this new girl named Valery, who had just started working at Ellas. She works out of the Beland location, which is where Purple Elixar used to be.

I texted at 1 pm And confirmed an appointment for 3 pm Then they moved it to 4 pm, followed by 4:30. Finally, they told me she had a problem and apologized, but they had to cancel the appointment. I was super disappointed because I really wanted to bang a spinner.

Okay, so she flaked. Then, a day later, I saw that she was available again. I explained what had happened with the previous booking, and they promised to lock it in this time. I booked her for 4:30. About an hour later, they changed it to 5:30 but PROMISED me it was locked in.

I arrived at exactly 5:30. She wasn't ready, so I waited in one of the newly updated waiting areas.

She came to get me at around 5:40, and wow! This girl is a tiny firecracker! She really is a true petite, tiny spinner, with perky, full A-cups. However, she had just gotten her nose done and still had a very small transparent strip of tape running on the bridge of her nose, along with fresh lip injections. Okay, I figured I could hang with that.

There weren't any rooms available, so we walked around looking for one. It was now 5:45. I eventually went into a room in the back, and she left. Then I could hear all the girls outside the room laughing and talking. It was really difficult for me to focus and get comfortable with all the noise.

She came back at around 5:50. By this point, I had been waiting for 20 minutes. I explained that the noise and people talking outside were distracting me, so she suggested that we go to another room upstairs.

Before leaving, I specifically asked, "This isn't going to count toward the hour, correct? The time starts when we actually begin. ".

She said, "Yeah, no worries. Don't worry it will start when we actually begin. I know the rooms not ready etc.

Okay, finally, at 6 pm, we entered a room upstairs that I had used many times before. She started dancing and grinding her tiny, petite ass against my dick. Cool. We started kissing, and wowthose lips were fun to suck on.

She gave me really great natural oral, and in the mirror, I could see her entire tiny pussy slit while she sucked me off.

We put the strap on, and I couldn't get over how tiny and petite this girl's waist was.

When we did doggy, I realized that I could practically wrap one hand around the front and back of her waist. It was outstanding she could still take a good dick!

I decided that I wanted to pull out and cum all over her belly, which she was cool with. I sat on the edge of the bed, lifted her legs into the air, and watched her belly move up and down as I thrust. Then I pulled out and shot it all over her!

She looked so fucking cute and pretty with it on her. She went to clean herself up, brought me a towel, and I used the shower inside the room (which is a nice bonus that this particular room has).

I was lying down afterward, and it was around 6:29 when she suddenly said, "Oh, we have to go!

I said, "What the fuck?" I became upset and explained, "This is exactly what I said wasn't supposed to happen. ".

She saw that I was angry. I quickly got dressed and walked out of the room. She held the door open for me, but I didn't even give her the usual goodbye kiss or anything. I just bounced.

I don't care how hot you are, if you deceive me about the time, you get a bad review. Just fuck off! It ruins the entire experience.

I complained the next day in the text with Ellas and actually gave me a coupon that brought the price down to something like 80 K, believe it or not!

Anyway, with all that said, if you can book her without her flaking, go for it. But no matter what time I try to book her, she always seems difficult to get because of the demand.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083749]I was lying down afterward, and it was around 6:29 when she suddenly said, "Oh, we have to go![/QUOTE]This is common for ella erotic. Poor customer service and they cut time short. Only pay for 30 min here and they don't do appointments like this guy just had problems with.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3083751]This is common for ella erotic. Poor customer service and they cut time short. Only pay for 30 min here and they don't do appointments like this guy just had problems with.[/QUOTE]I had other Ellas experiences that were fine and never this rush. , I think the real issue is booking on the half hour and also do not go on a Friday or Saturday during peak times.

BUT the fact they try to remidy it, have a complaining line and issue coupons shows they actually give a fuck. I can't' do a half hour, I just don't like to feel rushed.

Sophia 170 + 60 Oral natural.

When I went to go fuck Linda at the Muse Erotica house, I saw this 90 lbs petite cute face with giant bolt-on answer the door. Even though I enjoyed my time with Linda, I wanted to try this girl as she has a super small tiny waist, huge fake tits and a cute lolita face.

This time I was smart and made the booking thru Musa Directly, instead of thru Ellas. (Ellas charges a mark up of 20-50 K or more for the booking).

Anyway I arrive to the house that I know and Sofia answers the door after 1 min waiting.

She remembers me, smiles and we head upstairs to the same room I banged her friend a couple days before and this time there is a red drape on the outside that turns the entire room a red hue. None the less, Sofia collects the money and after a min later comes back in. We start tiny peking kisses and she doesn't want to give much tongue. It's cool we are catching a vibe.

She grabs at my knish and keeps getting more into touching etc. We talk a bit more and she is from Vnz but has very light skin. She is not the typical girl you seem come into vnz. She almost looks like she is from Spain.

I have to see her bolt ONS and when the bikini comes off. Bam!! These are freshly baked brand new surgery scar specials. I don't know what the surgeon did but I've never seen sooo many scars! It looked like hot cross buns or the surgeon must have done the surgery during the earthquake. The nipples, are dark but they even looked like the had a bit of eraser chewed up on them. Still her face is very very cute so I am ok with scars as my dick is still rock hard. I kiss and suck and make eye contact and she is more open. She kisses me more like we are novia why novio with lots of tounge and go to take a look at her pussy. I notice she has stuples but even bigger thing I notice is her see see- section scar. Yep! This chick is a mom, oh well. The scar isn't that big up still noticeable. Her stomach was very flat and no loose skin baby damag. Anyway I get down to get a taste of her puss. It's not as fresh as the other girl I saw here (who was like water) but with the stuble and the taste I only did it for a minute. I then switch and its her time to suck. She waste no time and puts it all into her mouth without even wipping it off. She is nice and slow and gentle. WOW! I can't believe such a young girl is able to give a BJ this good. Her mouth is like Silk.

I want to fuck, I put the rubber on, she sucks that too, then puts lube on both me and her. She lies down and says I have to go gently. I start to put it in and she say audible yells Ouch! Ok. I have to stop. I figure she needs time to open up cause of how small she is and has to open up her pussy. . I've had this before with an Ex so I go very very slow. Luckily the kissing and attraction I'm able to stay hard with the rubber on and as I just keep it there on the outside with the tip in. I try to push it a little bit more and have to stop. I ask her if its ok. She is like telling me its ok just need to take time. This goes on for 5 or 6 minutes. I'm average size so this girl is obviously having something wrong. I;m not upset or anything and I explain it's not enjoyable for me if she isn't also having pleasure. I get no joy from pain like this. I decide to ask her and she says some clients were very very rough with her the other day and she is too sore. I told her I understand and maybe she should have boundaries or take time to recover etc. I still liked her so I jsut told her it's better to finish with a BJ and I'm not mad or anything we can't fully fuck. I pull off the rubber and I lay down and she sucks me and its actually really great. I'm playing with her body and tits and asss. It's soo smooth. I ask her where she wants me to cum and she says she wants it on her tits. I'm cool with it but then I switch positions again. I just found it more enjoyable with me on my back but it's hard to aim in that position. She is looking soo fucking cute with her tiny face taking my entire cock in her mouth. I tell her to keep stroking and sucking and as I get closer she smiles at me, then. She just decides as I'm cumming that she is going to do a CIM! Damn! Unexpected! I shoot a HUGE load into her mouth and it felt amazing!! She smiles and the cum drips out of her mouth a little and she rubs it on her a bit. I clean up. We lay down, I take a shower next door. She massage me more and kisses me with the extra time I have. I get her # and we have been talking. She says she wants so see me again and her pussy is all better.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083624]Thanks June Fly!

Appreciate the ranking and with your comment on BOG I am really excited about MDE.

I visited BOG last year for a few days for work and was very disappointed with the quality.

Very nice but not beautiful at all. - exceptions of course but in general I was unimpressed.[/QUOTE]Bogota women are smart, educated, but they make you feel you are being interviewed. Medellin women are gorgeous, smile and make you wonder whether she likes you.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083761]I had other Ellas experiences that were fine and never this rush. , I think the real issue is booking on the half hour and also do not go on a Friday or Saturday during peak times.

BUT the fact they try to remidy it, have a complaining line and issue coupons shows they actually give a fuck. I can't' do a half hour, I just don't like to feel rushed.[/QUOTE]I've had 90% good services at ella erotic but it is a known house for scams and BS service. But yes everything you said with I agree.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083728]With these Casas. Is it one round in the hour?[/QUOTE]It's what you negotiate with the girl before hand if you want two pops especially less than 1 hour.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083749]Oh boy. So, I tried to book this new girl named Valery, who had just started working at Ellas. She works out of the Beland location, which is where Purple Elixar used to be.

I\].[/QUOTE]Damn I never heard of ellas before. I always stayed near the main lleras park area. But these reviews are awesome. Appreciate the info. Sent a dm as well.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;3083817]Damn I never heard of ellas before. I always stayed near the main lleras park area. But these reviews are awesome. Appreciate the info. Sent a dm as well.[/QUOTE]A lot of the casa are in Laurles & Belen. There's upscale ones in Poblado that cost bank as well as an apartment building or two that girls work out of.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3080029]Something that isn't as noticeable to short term visitors and tourists because it doesn't affect them in meaningful ways is price inflation. Food staples, utility bills, and real estate leases have shot up way above where they had increased to make up for the peso's devaluation. If you are here full time it is a bit of a double whammy. It's not enough to price out many foreigners but it's definitely noticeable and it's no longer as much of a bargain.[/QUOTE]It's noticeable to me, and this is my first time in the city. I just got here to Medellin on Thursday, by way of Santo Domingo, and already I'm wondering where this "Colombia is cheap" thing is. I'm walking around Exito and I'm basically seeing US-level pricing on many things, and many others above what I was spending in SD, which is supposed to be the much more expensive city (it is in some respects, but still).

Airbnb prices are definitely not what I expected. I get far more for the same money in SD, too.

The weather is great, though, and there's just sooooo many options for getting your dick wet. There's no perfect situation in this life. Just one trade-off after the other.

Will follow up with a detailed report for my first MDE trip later this week.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3083779]It's what you negotiate with the girl before hand if you want two pops especially less than 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3081100]3 D Suite Motel Medelland.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this info GringoLoko. I reached out to a girl (woman, really) on Mileroticos, who was staying in El Centro. Wasn't a problem at 2 pm when I was intending to go, but between some errands I had to run, and her getting ready to see me, it was 6:30 p by the time I was ready. And I was like "absolutely not". And I wasn't having her come to my place, either.

Told her I'd find somewhere and came scrambling on here and found your post. I'm staying in Belen, so it's a quick 10 min drive. I called her an Uber at the same time and we both got there.

It's pricey with rates from 120 k-165 k for 4 hours. We got the 165 k room because it was the only one with AC. And they put the "Mo-" in Motel. It's basically a 14-floor parking garage with rooms for fucking. You can drive your car / moto up the ramp all the way to the top and the rooms are just off the driveway. All the rooms have a vestibule at the front where you can just ride your moto in and park it and then lock the door behind you.

It's very clean, the staff is professional and friendly. Huge king-sized bed, with a jacuzzi in the room. 50" TV as well. The chica was so relaxed we ended up just hanging out and bullshitting for 3. 5 hrs. We fucked, showered, dozed off, went for round two, but the condom slipped off in her. I'll tell that full story in a later report.

The rooms also have a minibar with condoms, drinks and some other shit I wasn't really paying attention to. When you're done, you call downstairs and let them know what you took from the bar, and they'll tally it up. There's a back corridor that connects behind the rooms where an attendant will pop up from, you open a little hatch and she hands you the bill and you pay her.

And how do they prevent you from "dining and dashing"? Well. Once you go inside and lock the door, you're LOCKED IN. Me and the chica had a chuckle about the fact that we were in sex prison. Once you paid your bill, they unlocked the door so you could leave.

It was all so fascinating to me.

While I was waiting in the lobby for the Uber to go back to my place, I was just doing some people watching. At this point, it was roughly 10p. What got me was just how mundane it all looked and felt. Nothing about it felt seedy or grimy.

And the people I saw were the most boring collection of everyday folks you'd ever see. There were no obvious sex workers in shitty makeup and skimpy clothes. There was an older guy with an older conservatively dressed lady who passed through. She was wearing one of those full-length, modest, floral dresses your aunt would probably wear to church on Sunday. They were both very pleasant, and chatted and laughed in a very relaxed way across from me on one of the couches.

There were a lot of young couples who came in on motos. Just young dudes with little chiquitas wearing crop tops and jeans. One guy came in wearing medical scrubs with his girl like he just got off his shift. I saw two young couples come downstairs at the same time laughing and chatting. Maybe a 4-some / orgy or a swapping session.

I even saw two gay guys come in and go up the elevator together. Everything felt so natural, and easy. People were making jokes, everyone polite ("Buenas noches". "Que tengas una buena noche").

Like I said, fascinating. There's a certain maturity and efficiency to how sex is handled in Medellin that I just can't explain. The culture is comfortable with it. There's infrastructure around it. And in many places, it's treated with class and care. Most places I've mongered, everything about paid sex is dirty and grimy and seedy. You just want to bust a nut, zip up and leave. And of course, I'm sure you can find that here, too. But my first experience was truly comfortable.

For you guys always hand-wringing about taking chicas to your Airbnb, you really can't beat a love motel. I'm sure there's lots of cheaper ones all around, so I'll go hunting.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3067884]Day 1.

Got in early from a quick Bogota layover. Went to my studio right in Segundo parque Laureles and first thing I did was downed zinc like it was candy because I got sick last time. Showered, changed then immediately hit the streets.

***** 1: Attempted to see a really cute girl slim girl at Chicks Plus but communication got crossed and she wasn't available. Ended up leaving and hitting it up another slim cute girl named Sofia off Mile. Was a good experience, she was sick (see what I mean) but gave a good deep blowjob and rode dick pretty well. She kept eye contact the entire time. 8/10 170 k +60 k for natural oral.

Went home, grabbed some planeta Wings, then debated hitting up a girl ill call Cee. I've been in constant contact with since my March trip that I mentioned in that recap.

***** 2: I didn't know if I wanted to monger around before contacting her just in case she disrupted the free time. Attempted to hit up a couple possible and nothing materialized so I hit her up. A communication mix up led to me to believe she was coming over for the night but it really was a 1 HR home visit for 300 k. The redeeming factor was she let me hit it raw, lasted literally like 2 minutes LOL. Sent her back to work and hung around Jardin.

Day 2.

Mornings is when my libido is the highest but it's when casas and independents are most non responsive even if they're open. Sent out plenty of flyers and got no responses. Decided to hit up Angeles Spa. ***** 3: Mariana looked promising so booked. 6/10 face, fake tits slim body, 6/10, oral lasted 30 seconds as usual for Angeles, pussy was tight. 6/10 180 k +80 k natural oral.

After throwing out flyers all day couldn't arrange something hopeful, I realized 70 street was literally just a few minutes walking. So. L visited, got some salchilapapas and was accosted for a threesome by two friends. One was thin and cute, the other was chubby with a cute fact and big tits. It as tempting but decided against it looking back I should have indulged because I was looking for tits like hers all trip.

Day 3.

Hit up crepes and waffles for brunch, then Cee for a two hour session. She brought out a tiny vibrator, made her come but didn't nut over the two hours. She said she wasn't allowed to do raw, said she should continue to "take advantage" whatever that meant. Started questioning the purpose of our situation.

***** 4: Went back home and showered, hit up Hanna from Geishas. Tiny cute paisa that looked like he had some Asian in here 8/10. Small ass, tits and skinny but it all worked 7/10. Head was average because it was the size of her forearm but she took dick like a straight champ. She even asked me if I wanted a massage and I gave her one too. 8/10 170 k + 60 k natural oral.

Went back to 70 and watched the playoffs.

Day 4:

***** 5: daily I was hitting up a casa filled with old women who's specialty was BBBJCIM but their communication was ass. Stopped by and it was closed, then went to a tantric spa casa that ended with handjob or blowjob. The girl was middle Eastern looking cute, skinny with moderate tits but one of those slightly bulging bellies paisas sometimes have. May have been pregnant. The massage was interesting and the head was moreso a handjob with some head sucking periodically. 180 k +50 k natural oral. Hit up unicentro, a great burger place.

Was annoyed with Cee so I didn't hit her up till late. She wanted me to come through but told it seemed like she wanted to go home afterwards, I told her it was too late and I'll hit her up tomorrow. Went to check out lleras, was relatively dead but of course there were still working girls about. Got a number then went back home.

Day 5:

Got some rituales for breakfast, then headed over to Cee. Typical heavy making out sex but once again didn't nut because of condom. The next day was her birthday and we had plans to go to Guatape but she was acting distant the entire time. She said she wanted me to come back the next day with chocolates, wine and tequila to celebrate. Never mentioned Guatape but I wasn't going to pressure. Left and the old woman casa finally answered.

***** 6: Show up and the old woman says to wait a few. She then pulls up on a moto. Women is probably mid 40's but I admit she looks great with nice fake tits and ass. Think her name is Samantha. We go inside and she gets naked in a rush and starts sucking like there was a bomb timer on my nuts, and not in a good way. I only wanted head but I say fuck it, hit it missionary and doggy. As ass definitely wasn't fresh and it smelled like it. Took off the condom and had her finish with her mouth. Probably smelled like her ass but that's on her. Busted off in her Jaws. 7/10.

Went home, then walked back to MSB. There was a birthday party there and after a while a tall skinny girl walked in, saw me and did a double take, then asked for my name and said we should have fun tonight. She was very outgoing with everyone but wasn't particularly attractive but directly average so I still fuckable. And because she was so outgoing I figured she would be an amazing lay. I went to ATM and came back and she came out the bathroom and showed me like some chewing tobacco which turned me all the way off. Went home.

Day 6.

I set up an appointment for a blowjob but on the way there my Uber ran into a moto driver. Took that as a sign and went to xito to gather Cees birthday stuff. While shopping for the stuff even though it was cheap, I found myself making sure I got the most affordable stuff possible as to not spend more money on her after wasting money on Guatape accommodations and visits without any time outside her casa. After some soul searching realized the situation wasn't worth it, but her shit back and blocked her. Went back to see hanna.

***** 7: Hit up a girl named Jazmin at Eclipse Rojo. She looked gorgeous from her ad but in person she was by far the most stunning woman I've ever laid eyes on. Long blonde braids, small upper body but just cartoonish proportioned hips and ass. Absolutely the smallest waist and biggest ass natural hips and ass I've ever seen. I highly recommend this woman.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/yazmin-blanquita-hermosa-con-el-culo-mas-rico-de-medellin/26423576/[/URL]

The blowjob was top 2 I've had in Medellin. I came in seconds from cowgirl. Came back every day and it goes without saying her back shots could make the world peaceful. Amazing personality to where I paid for hours where we just talked. That's the glory of Medellin. Dropped a gorgeous woman and within an hour found a girl that if she lived in America, would look at a man unless he was an athlete or entertainer. Face 9/10 body 16/10 performance 10/10.

I was so astonished it was my only play for the day.

Day 7.

Nothing eventful, went back to see Hannah and Jazmin.

Day 8.

That day I moved from laurales to El Poblado. Originally stayed in an apartment on 10 a but it was older than I imagined. Moved to a loft right in the middle of Lleras. Hit up Jazmin during the day for a 3 hour session. Went back to Lleras and picked up a young black paisa.

***** 8: This girl was slim with a small booty that poked out. I have a thing where when I pick up a Lleras girl I'll take her to Supa Shots for a drink and shot them to the Airbnb. She had tongue and lip rings but could tell she was young influenced by porn. Literally motorboated her tongue in my mouth and when fucking would pound away. But I didn't buy lube and she took a lot of tequila and that mixed with her jack hammering she got sore and had to cut it short from pain. She was a cutie but head was 6/10 and sex was 5/10.

***** 9: After that disappointment went to Lleras and picked up a girl who's number I got but was very average. Had her give me oral which was basic but it did the job. 6/10.

Day 9.

Hit up Jazmin today. Planned on doing a gauntlet of all the down town Casas but made it through 2 LOL.

***** 10: First was Zandalay. Only three girls and 2 were pretty bad. The average on was a black girl with a nice ass. Offered natural BJ for 80 and I declined. Lowered it to 50 and said fuck it. Pussy was tight I admit only washed with water after we were done. 7/10.

***** 11: Next was Amigas sexy. The girls were much better but not great. There was one skinny girl at the end with some nice tits and sass so I chose her. She was cute with some nice tits and ass for a skinny girl. I planned on saving my nut until the last casa but during doggy she was taking it deep and I said fuck it. Afterwards while chatting I told her I'm from Chicago and she excited showed me the shows Shameless and The Chi that she was watching. Told me she loved black guys. 9/10.

***** 12: Later that night saw a cute young looking that looked like she could be a character on Hannah Montana. Legit 8/10 face with the cutest smile, she had bee sting tits and small hips with a typical western woman young girl ass. Took her to Supa Shots and by then the bartender knew what was up. Told her to walk behind me because I didn't want the police putting me on a list. Got back and we had some passionate sex. I love how these lleras girls always put on YouTube and give a lap dance first. It's almost like they're taught by the same working girls.

I don't know what it is about these young small girls but I'm compelled to eat them like brunch. Licked her head to feet and sucked her clit like a chicken bone. Hoped she'd let me play in it raw but besides slapping it made me get a condom. Also didn't give head. But she threw what ass she had back. It was fun and she was adorable.

I unblocked Cee because I realized she probably thought I was drugged and kidnapped.

Day 10.

Shit gets serious.

***** 13: the entire week I was trying to link up with Cristal from Ellas erotic but it never worked out. I hit up their tele and she was open. Her tits are considerably smaller than her pics indicated and she was skinnier. Service was fine but the blowjob was probably the worst I've ever had. 5/10. Half time 120 k + 100 natural oral.

***** 14: Saw two girls sitting down in Lleras and set up a threesome. Went to get coffee and cash and hit up the girl who's number I got. She was absolutely gorgeous to me. Venezuelan with small chest and wide hips. Pearl skin and amazing face. Took her to supa shots then back to the telly. She fucked like a professional with lots of animated moaning and enthusiasm. But the service was distant as she even ran when I would kiss her amazing ass. Just a beautiful body. 300 k.

***** 15+16. So there was a cute girl walking around that I missed the day prior that I saw. She was with another girl and I walked up and the other girl spoke up. They ended up being sisters and she offered them both. She said one after another but that made me feel like I would be a the bag. Fucking a girl then saying alright, bring in your sister. But they insisted and I found it weird as FUCK so I told her just me and her. She was a complete crazy firecracker and fucked the shit out of me. She then insisted I try her sister and I said fuck it. Her younger sister came up and she fucked the shit out of me too. It's almost like she taught her little sis all of the moves to do. She didn't seem nuts like her sister but she was still skilled and I came in minutes. 10/10 for both.

After I was done with little sis, big sis send me a text asking how she was. Colombia is a completely different planet man LOL.

Day 11.

Day my flight left. Went back to eclipse Rojo to see Jazmin but didn't show up early like she said she would. Went with Mariana.

***** 17: She was a girl early 20's who was tall and hefty but cute. The sex was all okay, wanted a threesome but I was running behind and didn't know if it would delay me. 7/10.

Cee hit me up on the way home from a new number asking why I blocked her. Then on her personal with a sad emoji. Told her she was acting like I was a normal client so I'll start acting like one, no more financial benefits and when I come back I'll hit her up for the normal rates.[/QUOTE]Eclipse keeps showing up as a must see.

Have you done any 3 somes at the Casas?

Excellent reports!

Angel 220 K 1 HR + 80 K oral natural.

I had seen Angel last year when she was a fresh young new face working at Purple Elixir.

When I saw her last year she was brand new, she has super flat a cup model tits but her pussy was very tiny, fresh and puffy.

After 1 year she is a shell of herself.

She works out a new casa that is walking distance from me so I decided to book.

I arrive and I see her, this time, no make up.

And looking like she smoked soo much her eyes are barely open.

I walk into this dingy room in the back, she gets the money and walks away. I put on some music and she remembers me, we kiss but her kissing is lazy. She just doesn't have the same passion. She goes for my cock and wants to suck at it right away, she forgets to wipe it but then after a taste test does a super quick wipe and back to sucking. Her BJ was awesome last time but now it's just mechanical. I go to play with her pussy and she hasn't shaved it. Oh well. She is super model thin and tall almost runway style. We start to fuck and the positions it's not as easy as before.

I think the enthusiasm she had and the fact she hasn't had the career she has wanted and didn't keep the promises she made to herself as started to turn her into a cautionary tale.

Hopefully she gets out of the business before she turns 20 and maybe some dude takes her to another country or something.

She doesn't care anymore and I'the skip service all together.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083864]I think the enthusiasm she had and the fact she hasn't had the career she has wanted and didn't keep the promises she made to herself as started to turn her into a cautionary tale.

Hopefully she gets out of the business before she turns 20 and maybe some dude takes her to another country or something.[/QUOTE]She is older than 20, can't remember the age but maybe 24. She's been in the game for a long time and her mother is a drug addict. Yes this girl smokes a lot and is always high. She is washed up now. Pass. Next.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3083850]While I was waiting in the lobby for the Uber to go back to my place, I was just doing some people watching. At this point, it was roughly 10p. What got me was just how mundane it all looked and felt. Nothing about it felt seedy or grimy.

And the people I saw were the most boring collection of everyday folks you'd ever see. There were no obvious sex workers in shitty makeup and skimpy clothes. There was an older guy with an older conservatively dressed lady who passed through. She was wearing one of those full-length, modest, floral dresses your aunt would probably wear to church on Sunday. They were both very pleasant, and chatted and laughed in a very relaxed way across from me on one of the couches.

There were a lot of young couples who came in on motos. Just young dudes with little chiquitas wearing crop tops and jeans. One guy came in wearing medical scrubs with his girl like he just got off his shift. I saw two young couples come downstairs at the same time laughing and chatting. Maybe a 4-some / orgy or a swapping session.

I even saw two gay guys come in and go up the elevator together. Everything felt so natural, and easy. People were making jokes, everyone polite ("Buenas noches". "Que tengas una buena noche").

Like I said, fascinating. There's a certain maturity and efficiency to how sex is handled in Medellin that I just can't explain. The culture is comfortable with it. There's infrastructure around it. And in many places, it's treated with class and care. Most places I've mongered, everything about paid sex is dirty and grimy and seedy. You just want to bust a nut, zip up and leave. And of course, I'm sure you can find that here, too. But my first experience was truly comfortable.

For you guys always hand-wringing about taking chicas to your Airbnb, you really can't beat a love motel. I'm sure there's lots of cheaper ones all around, so I'll go hunting.[/QUOTE]Bruhh this has me laughing so hard haha. I be doing the same thing people watching while waiting for uber.

To find love motels in meddy just download the app called MotelNow on the app store and boom you'll be amazed at all the other love motels in the area.

Other love motels that are good.

Ibiza motel lounge.

Motel ibiza west.

Thematic suites.

Thematic luxury.

Eva suites.

Lov suites.

Hotel golden suites.

Motel El Palo, located right next to the San Ignacio Plaza is organized, clean.

El centro best love motel is HOTEL ROMANTIC SUITES. Themed rooms, jacuzzi, clean.

Unicorn Motel is in south meedy and has jacuzzi rooms too and clean, smells good, cabin-style room.

Kumoz suite 44 is good in laureles.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3083872]
To find love motels in meddy just download the app called MotelNow on the app store and boom you'll be amazed at all the other love motels in the area.[/QUOTE]More great info! Thanks a lot.

I'm definitely preferring that to bring them back to my place. If we're going to be fucking, then let's go to a place built for it.

On a different note, I have like 200+ women in my Tinder matches and chats. I can't even sift through all these bitches.

I've mostly seen guys talk around the subject matter of vetting. Which suggests that most are flying by the seat of their pants. But really, how do you do this in Medellin? In Santo Domingo, I'm basically on the semi / non-pro search, and have done well enough. Here I'd like to do the same, but I know you can't trust any of these women. If I really need to bust a nut, the pros on Mileroticos or at a casa just seem like better options.

So, again, what are you guys looking to filter for when figuring out who to pull from Tinder?

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3083882]On a different note, I have like 200+ women in my Tinder matches and chats. I can't even sift through all these bitches.

what are you guys looking to filter for when figuring out who to pull from Tinder?[/QUOTE]I stay away from tinder in meddy due to all the in person options you can see beforehand through parque lleras, casas, strip clubs. No need for tinder and all that headache.

Cartagena tinder is fun but tinder in meddy if I were to do it I would video chat them beforehand and make sure you see them in a place with security or love motel.

Tinder game in meddy is too dangerous for me I wouldn't risk it there. I know some guys have good luck with it but that is the only thing in meddy I will not do.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3083882]More great info! Thanks a lot.

I'm definitely preferring that to bring them back to my place. If we're going to be fucking, then let's go to a place built for it.

On a different note, I have like 200+ women in my Tinder matches and chats. I can't even sift through all these bitches.

I've mostly seen guys talk around the subject matter of vetting. Which suggests that most are flying by the seat of their pants. But really, how do you do this in Medellin? In Santo Domingo, I'm basically on the semi / non-pro search, and have done well enough. Here I'd like to do the same, but I know you can't trust any of these women. If I really need to bust a nut, the pros on Mileroticos or at a casa just seem like better options.

So, again, what are you guys looking to filter for when figuring out who to pull from Tinder?[/QUOTE]If it was 10 years ago, Tinder was an aboslulte gold mine for non and semi pros. I'm talking an entire week of GFE bb for 500-1 M.

Now I'm too cautios on tinder.

They got a lot more sophiscarted and learned the art of the slow roll to win your trust and then rob you. Granted its few and far between but if you want to know a vetting process for Tinder it would go like this.

Anyones that put mutal benifit or dollar emojis in it, that's a pro. I saw a girl from Ellas have her profile in there as well so just pass.

No Neck tattos or face tattos.

No low quality android potato camera photos.

Secondly, get their IG and really investgate it. Look at how old the oldest post is, If its less then a month, pass, you can see how long the IG account was created as well.

Peep the comments and the people she follows, also hiow many followrs does she have. Over 3 K. Pass, if she is verified, also pass.

The type I've found that has the best option are girls that are in university and don't want to work at Frisby over the break, Also try and look for them right before holiday comes BUT stay away around holy week.

A great green flag if the profile is legit is this. (it only works if you have an iphone as well).

If they have a selfies taken with an iPhone the mirror pic and then you go to look at the number they gave you for whatsapp. If that number is also a blue bubble name in iMessager, then yeah she is def legit. If you call them out for not having iMessanger they will say "oh I took it with my amigas phone or oh I keep a private # for that).

There is a lot more, but I find its just not worth it at this point so if you really want to find Semi or non pro you are better caughing up the dough and going to Seeking.

Maria Jose Ellas 180 K HR + 60 K oral natural.

I saw Marias photos on Ellas and thought these were the best looking pussy photos I've seen taken. Really great lighting and shape she has no problem showing off her vag.

I booked time with her for 6 pm on a Wednesday, and went to the Belen Address. I arrived and waited maybe 30 seconds and she greeted me.

She is a tall women prob 5 9 with heels and has a model like figure but with some heft to her. She takes care of herself but if you aren't use to a bigger women you might not like her. She doesn't have high body fat or anything she is just built.

Her face isn't all that, she has kinda a hook nose that looks like the pornstar Shy Love. So it's a bit big, not huge but it makes her face a bit more pronounced.

I give her the $, she leaves and comes back in 1 minute with her bag. We are in the upstairs room that I've been in between many times when it was purple elixir. Its pretty much the best room there is because its quite, spacious and has it's own build in shower.

We start talking and for some reason, a lot of these working girls love to ask you if you're married or single or have a girlfriend. I will never understand that line of questioning, but whatever, I'm single so it's not I feel guilty or anything fucking someone else.

We start to kiss and she does a little bit of tounge, she has a vibe to her and her long orange dyed hair smells amazing. We start kissing on each other and she grabs my shirt, takes it off and plays with my nipples. I play with her floppy but firm nipples as well and she reaches for my Johnson.

I start to kiss more on her stomach ad she is taking off her lingere and finally revealing that beautiful perfectly shaped pussy. I give her light kisses on the inside of her thigh and tease her clit with my nose and let me tell you, it smells like strawberries down there. Yummy!! I do some munching for a bit, come back to kiss her and then she throws me around and on my back. She does a full cleaning with the wipes on my cock, so much so it was almost like its own foreplay event. She gives me a decent sucking for like 6 minutes, switching between hands, mouth and licking on my balls. Pro tip, you want a girl to lick your balls without asking, just make sure they are totally shaved.

Finally we strap up, she starts out on top in reverse cowgirl so I can get a look at her giant great big ass!! She hops on it, it's actually tight and I'm slapping the fuck out of her ass, she didn't seem to mind. Then I got on top and could see her beautiful pussy taking my cock. She is ALL legs and when she hoisted them onto my shoulders I could feel the weight of her body as I thrusted deeper. Then we went to the edge of the bed and went in doggy. I loved seeing her pussy really take a cock and the firmness of her ass when she would reverse slam into my cock felt magical. I finally let her finish me with a combo of a BJ and HJ and she knew the right rhythm to make me cum. She kept stroking it after I came and that really made me have a super intense orgams. I cleaned up, we took turns int eh shower then for the remaining 20 min just chanttted, kissed more and she gave me a deep massage on my back, hands and arms.

She is good but her face isn't for me, however don't let that stop you, I just didn't repeat because it's not what I was looking for. Anyway, enjoy, this is one of the good ones at Ellas.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3083850]While I was waiting in the lobby for the Uber to go back to my place, I was just doing some people watching. At this point, it was roughly 10p. What got me was just how mundane it all looked and felt. Nothing about it felt seedy or grimy.

And the people I saw were the most boring collection of everyday folks you'd ever see. There were no obvious sex workers in shitty makeup and skimpy clothes. There was an older guy with an older conservatively dressed lady who passed through. She was wearing one of those full-length, modest, floral dresses your aunt would probably wear to church on Sunday. They were both very pleasant, and chatted and laughed in a very relaxed way across from me on one of the couches.

There were a lot of young couples who came in on motos. Just young dudes with little chiquitas wearing crop tops and jeans. One guy came in wearing medical scrubs with his girl like he just got off his shift. I saw two young couples come downstairs at the same time laughing and chatting. Maybe a 4-some / orgy or a swapping session.

I even saw two gay guys come in and go up the elevator together. Everything felt so natural, and easy. People were making jokes, everyone polite ("Buenas noches". "Que tengas una buena noche").

Like I said, fascinating. There's a certain maturity and efficiency to how sex is handled in Medellin that I just can't explain. The culture is comfortable with it. There's infrastructure around it. And in many places, it's treated with class and care. Most places I've mongered, everything about paid sex is dirty and grimy and seedy. You just want to bust a nut, zip up and leave. And of course, I'm sure you can find that here, too. But my first experience was truly comfortable.[/QUOTE]Multi-generational homes are the norm in Colombia and the houses are smaller with less privacy. Love motels are where regular Paisas go to get their freak on. Younger kids don't have cars with backseats. Add in people engaging in extramarital affairs, and I bet that in most love motels, sex work is a relatively small part of the business.

Another thing in meddy that is good to do is make a secondary facebook account for yourself and then you can use that method on vetting some girls through their facebook profiles.

Like if you match a girl on tinder ask her for her Facebook and whatsapp # then you can see her on FB. Plus if she is good then you can add her friends through facebook and get a roster that way.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3083845]It's noticeable to me, and this is my first time in the city. I just got here to Medellin on Thursday, by way of Santo Domingo, and already I'm wondering where this "Colombia is cheap" thing is. I'm walking around Exito and I'm basically seeing US-level pricing on many things, and many others above what I was spending in SD, which is supposed to be the much more expensive city (it is in some respects, but still).

Airbnb prices are definitely not what I expected. I get far more for the same money in SD, too.

The weather is great, though, and there's just sooooo many options for getting your dick wet. There's no perfect situation in this life. Just one trade-off after the other.

Will follow up with a detailed report for my first MDE trip later this week.[/QUOTE]The days of cheap Colombia have gone. The dollar has fallen so far and inflation has pushed prices up considerably within the last year. I'm not talking about putas, just general goods and food. You're 2 years too late.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3083850]Thanks for this info GringoLoko. I reached out to a girl (woman, really) on Mileroticos, who was staying in El Centro. Wasn't a problem at 2 pm when I was intending to go, but between some errands I had to run, and her getting ready to see me, it was 6:30 p by the time I was ready. And I was like "absolutely not". And I wasn't having her come to my place, either.

Told her I'd find somewhere and came scrambling on here and found your post. I'm staying in Belen, so it's a quick 10 min drive. I called her an Uber at the same time and we both got there.

It's pricey with rates from 120 k-165 k for 4 hours. We got the 165 k room because it was the only one with AC. And they put the "Mo-" in Motel. It's basically a 14-floor parking garage with rooms for fucking. You can drive your car / moto up the ramp all the way to the top and the rooms are just off the driveway. All the rooms have a vestibule at the front where you can just ride your moto in and park it and then lock the door behind you.

It's very clean, the staff is professional and friendly. Huge king-sized bed, with a jacuzzi in the room. 50" TV as well. The chica was so relaxed we ended up just hanging out and bullshitting for 3. 5 hrs. We fucked, showered, dozed off, went for round two, but the condom slipped off in her. I'll tell that full story in a later report.

The rooms also have a minibar with condoms, drinks and some other shit I wasn't really paying attention to. When you're done, you call downstairs and let them know what you took from the bar, and they'll tally it up. There's a back corridor that connects behind the rooms where an attendant will pop up from, you open a little hatch and she hands you the bill and you pay her.

And how do they prevent you from "dining and dashing"? Well. Once you go inside and lock the door, you're LOCKED IN. Me and the chica had a chuckle about the fact that we were in sex prison. Once you paid your bill, they unlocked the door so you could leave.

It was all so fascinating to me.

While I was waiting in the lobby for the Uber to go back to my place, I was just doing some people watching. At this point, it was roughly 10p. What got me was just how mundane it all looked and felt. Nothing about it felt seedy or grimy.

And the people I saw were the most boring collection of everyday folks you'd ever see. There were no obvious sex workers in shitty makeup and skimpy clothes. There was an older guy with an older conservatively dressed lady who passed through. She was wearing one of those full-length, modest, floral dresses your aunt would probably wear to church on Sunday. They were both very pleasant, and chatted and laughed in a very relaxed way across from me on one of the couches.

There were a lot of young couples who came in on motos. Just young dudes with little chiquitas wearing crop tops and jeans. One guy came in wearing medical scrubs with his girl like he just got off his shift. I saw two young couples come downstairs at the same time laughing and chatting. Maybe a 4-some / orgy or a swapping session.

I even saw two gay guys come in and go up the elevator together. Everything felt so natural, and easy. People were making jokes, everyone polite ("Buenas noches". "Que tengas una buena noche").

Like I said, fascinating. There's a certain maturity and efficiency to how sex is handled in Medellin that I just can't explain. The culture is comfortable with it. There's infrastructure around it. And in many places, it's treated with class and care. Most places I've mongered, everything about paid sex is dirty and grimy and seedy. You just want to bust a nut, zip up and leave. And of course, I'm sure you can find that here, too. But my first experience was truly comfortable.

For you guys always hand-wringing about taking chicas to your Airbnb, you really can't beat a love motel. I'm sure there's lots of cheaper ones all around, so I'll go hunting.[/QUOTE]You been to SD all those times and never heard of a Cabana? Granted I only went to one in the DR but those things exist all over Latin America.

I could warn you about Tinder and bringing girls back to your spot but you're going to do what you want to do.

If I were you I'the ask the chick who you got with if she has friends.

Tinder and all the apps is a roll of the dice maybe you get got maybe you don't. Be careful.

If you decide to come to Cali there's a fellow yardie who has an american joint down here.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

It's starting to catch up to Brazil. Brazil used to be about twice as expensive as Colombia but now it's more like 25% more expensive. You generally get more bang for your buck so to speak in Brazil and there is something to be said for being able to walk two blocks without encountering a leg breaking sidewalk hole. The dollar could bounce back. It's good to have options.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3083926]The days of cheap Colombia have gone. The dollar has fallen so far and inflation has pushed prices up considerably within the last year. I'm not talking about putas, just general goods and food. You're 2 years too late.[/QUOTE]

Angelica 180 K+ 80 K oral natural Angles Spa.

I think one of the girls I was going to see flaked so I just was in a hurry to book something and I heard Angelica is always around.

I message them an hour before and tell them I live close and I'll be there a quarter after the hour.

I arrive there right on time and go into the seedy stairs. I've been here before but the place had a different name.

The mamasan greets me and directs me to a room in the back. I pass thru a corridor of super bright overhead lights. I go way back and there is a room with a very low bed and black out curtains and a private bathroom.

5 min later, Angelica walks in, she is a tall paisa girl with pochahontas hair that is styled sort of to the side with a ponytail. It's a hairstyle that I used to see here all the time about a decade ago. That sort of indicates of her age, she is def pushing 30 but she has great skin and her face isn't aging too bad.

I give her the money and she starts to dance a little and grind into my cock. Her ass is nice, not too big or small, sort of jiggly but still firm. She goes to the gym. I un do her bra and reveal her giant fake tits. They have a semi hard feel to them as you can tell she had kids and there is a little bit of droop. It's not a big deal and I still kiss and suck them and she enjoys it. She doesn't really give many kisses (I find out later she uncharges for that only after the fact) Its ok, she still kisses on my body and then gets me down. I start with standing above her and letting her inhale my cock. Before I can do that, she grabs a bunch of wipes and makes sure to fully clean me. I slap my cock on her face and she laughs at how loud the sound is and then goes to suck. It's actually a pretty decent BJ and I'm playing with her tits and rubbing her pussy the whole time. She has very nice labia that fit perfect with her body. Not too big and she already has some wetness naturally. BJ goes pretty well, it's what I expect of a girl with fake tits, just enough to keep you satisfied but she wants to get to the fucking. We start with her on top and I can feel her ass jiggle as I try to hold on while she rides it. It feels pretty good and we do some small kisses but then I'm sucking on her tits and holding onto everything for dear life. We then go to missionary and I can see her tits jiggle and hit the bottom of her chin. She has to hold them together and then I get her on the side so I can see the entire show. We then do doggy and her ass is really great at catching it. I can tell she is trying to make me cum in doggy but I won't let her. I make her suck me so I can shoot a huge load on her tits. She gets on top, does a great suck and handjob, I get close, she spits on my dick and then I loose and it shoot it so high that it almost hits her face! She does a quick dodge of it and laughs as it keeps shooting. I go to the shower, we clean up and then she gives me a massage. We talk to some more and ask her why she didn't kiss more and that's when I found out it's extra. She was cool. I would repeat, she is reliable fuck when you want a paisa with fake tits that isn't too mechanical.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083963]Angelica 180 K+ 80 K oral natural Angles Spa.

I think one of the girls I was going to see flaked so I just was in a hurry to book something and I heard Angelica is always around.

I message them an hour before and tell them I live close and I'll be there a quarter after the hour.

I arrive there right on time and go into the seedy stairs. I've been here before but the place had a different name.

The mamasan greets me and directs me to a room in the back. I pass thru a corridor of super bright overhead lights. I go way back and there is a room with a very low bed and black out curtains and a private bathroom.

5 min later, Angelica walks in, she is a tall paisa girl with pochahontas hair that is styled sort of to the side with a ponytail. It's a hairstyle that I used to see here all the time about a decade ago. That sort of indicates of her age, she is def pushing 30 but she has great skin and her face isn't aging too bad.

I give her the money and she starts to dance a little and grind into my cock. Her ass is nice, not too big or small, sort of jiggly but still firm. She goes to the gym. I un do her bra and reveal her giant fake tits. They have a semi hard feel to them as you can tell she had kids and there is a little bit of droop. It's not a big deal and I still kiss and suck them and she enjoys it. She doesn't really give many kisses (I find out later she uncharges for that only after the fact) Its ok, she still kisses on my body and then gets me down. I start with standing above her and letting her inhale my cock. Before I can do that, she grabs a bunch of wipes and makes sure to fully clean me. I slap my cock on her face and she laughs at how loud the sound is and then goes to suck. It's actually a pretty decent BJ and I'm playing with her tits and rubbing her pussy the whole time. She has very nice labia that fit perfect with her body. Not too big and she already has some wetness naturally. BJ goes pretty well, it's what I expect of a girl with fake tits, just enough to keep you satisfied but she wants to get to the fucking. We start with her on top and I can feel her ass jiggle as I try to hold on while she rides it. It feels pretty good and we do some small kisses but then I'm sucking on her tits and holding onto everything for dear life. We then go to missionary and I can see her tits jiggle and hit the bottom of her chin. She has to hold them together and then I get her on the side so I can see the entire show. We then do doggy and her ass is really great at catching it. I can tell she is trying to make me cum in doggy but I won't let her. I make her suck me so I can shoot a huge load on her tits. She gets on top, does a great suck and handjob, I get close, she spits on my dick and then I loose and it shoot it so high that it almost hits her face! She does a quick dodge of it and laughs as it keeps shooting. I go to the shower, we clean up and then she gives me a massage. We talk to some more and ask her why she didn't kiss more and that's when I found out it's extra. She was cool. I would repeat, she is reliable fuck when you want a paisa with fake tits that isn't too mechanical.[/QUOTE]Another excellent report and I can now open the image file. New paid member!

For these Casas, if you go for an hour do you really have an hour or if you finish your first pop it's over? Just wondering if you have to explicitly say 2 pops if you buy the hour. Been with escorts in other places and an hour is an hour.

Have learned a lot by reading thru the reports.

Have a few questions and would love the groups tips/ advice and warnings.

Would like to do a threesome. Double BJ and lesbian action.

Can you do this at the Casas? Any recommendations?

What about Mileroticos? Some look tasty and prices seem good. I have been in contact w a few independents working out of Apts it seems in the Laureles and Belen areas.

Any recommendations here or is it too risky? Scope!
I have also checked Catador Colombia and Don Colombia and its been very helpful especially the reviews or reseas of Casas, chicks etc.
I got this tip from you guys here - much thanks!

I speak Spanish ok (was fluent as a kid but lost it - it does come back tho when Im in LATAM. I am dark. Not a gringo. I often get mistook for Cuban, Puerto Rican etc and locales will assume I speak and understand Spanish.

Appreciate the tips and advice.

Will report back to help or just inform other first timers of my one experience in MDE.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083967]Another excellent report and I can now open the image file. New paid member!

For these Casas, if you go for an hour do you really have an hour or if you finish your first pop it's over? Just wondering if you have to explicitly say 2 pops if you buy the hour. Been with escorts in other places and an hour is an hour.[/QUOTE]It depends on the casa and the vibe of the place and how busy they are.

If you want before you start the hour you can say "dos relations para 1 hora?

Most of the casa are cool but there are a few, like the non estalished that will boot you out. Also some new girls in a unknown casa will boot you out. But most of the time you should be good.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083969]It depends on the casa and the vibe of the place and how busy they are.

If you want before you start the hour you can say "dos relations para 1 hora?

Most of the casa are cool but there are a few, like the non estalished that will boot you out. Also some new girls in a unknown casa will boot you out. But most of the time you should be good.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Just ask before you pay. How many loads you can shoot or just say you want 2 loads for 1 hour see what she says. Most should be good for 2 loads in an hour but you never know. I am a 1 load kind of guy so 30 min good enough for me.

Bella (repeat) The Garden 190 K + 60 K oral natural + 100 K cum on body / face.

I just KNEW I was going to repeat with Bella again. Her new lolita energy is a rarity that I'm sure in a couple weeks she will be gone, so it it fleeting. (Hannah who was the star at the garden left after a couple months).

Anyway I arrive at the Poblado location and she smiles and does a running jump to hug me!! The Enthuasim is there and this makes it soo much better for the natural chemistry. We head upstairs to a new bedroom I haven't been to before in the back. It's a bit hotter in there but the fan is bigger. I love the lighting at the garden, it's got that natural warm light that is relaxing to the eyes, as opposed to that harsh Colombian light.

I give her the $, she comes back after a couple minutes and I tell her I was thinking about those big lips she has and miss kissing her. She giggles and is happy to see me. We make out on the bed for a couple minutes and she compliments my chest (I've been working out and the shirt was stretched a bit). We just get undressed quite fast but the kissing and touching is very gentle and slow. Her body is soo delicate I don't want to be too rough with her. We start mastubating each other and before I can say anything she is already putting me in my mouth. I tell her I want to 69 and wow let me tell you, seeing this tiny beautiful young pussy an inch away from your face, just a glorious sight. We both really get into it, but the more I lick and suck her clit the more she isn't able to fully suck on my cock. It's cool but we are doing this for a while, she is really focus and then moaning from her mouth as she is sucking me lets me feel the vibration from her mouth. I keep looking ant staring and kissing and sucking this beautiful pussy but I'm getting soo excited that I want to pop from her BJ.

I stop us and tell her I'm ready to fuck her. She puts the condom on me, grabs the lube and then slowly sits on it. We start kissing face to face and we are soo intense the bed is moving. I flip her over and get her on the side so I can see it go deep inside her. She starts to rub herself and I feel the pressure and BOOM! She has a deep orgams. Wow! I didn't expect her to do this but she was really enjoying it. Then we start again after a 2 min break and boom! She starts to rub her pussy while I'm fucking her on the edge of the bed and she cums agaiN!. I can feel her pussy convulsing on my dick and is squeezed and contracts. Wow! I thought she was faking but I can see her face is sooo flush. I ask her how often this happened and she says it's rare. She was very happy and I wait some more time before we can fuck again. I get her back in quarto so I can see this tiny round ass take my dick all the way in. I then tell her I want to cum on her and she says its more. I don't care the price but I need to explode on her. I thought I was going to get her face but when I pulled out I just shot it all over her belly and tits. We lay there, together with my cum keeping us bonded as we sweat all over each other and kiss. Finally I head to the showers and she slaps my ass a bit as I get in and cool off under the cold water.

It was near the closing time of the casa so I was like last to leave, but she was cool with me hanging while I waited for a taxi to come pick me up.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3083951]It's starting to catch up to Brazil. Brazil used to be about twice as expensive as Colombia but now it's more like 25% more expensive. You generally get more bang for your buck so to speak in Brazil and there is something to be said for being able to walk two blocks without encountering a leg breaking sidewalk hole. The dollar could bounce back. It's good to have options.[/QUOTE]The dollar will bounce back. It's not just a Colombian thing. The USD lost over 10% of its value on the global markets in 2025 alone. The world has lost confidence in the USD because of the current admin and this compounds with local effects like inflation. I was in Ireland in January and the EUR exchange rate was the worst I've ever personally used. Not that long ago, the USD was close to parity with the EUR.

Anyway, I'm here in Medellin and saw one of my new regulars I met back in June. 500 K and she stayed 6 hours. I brought my weed vape and she was just wanted to keep getting high and having sex. I wanted her to leave after about 4 hours cause I was still tired from traveling the day before, but I soldiered through.

She looks hot. The pics show Mileroticos but she works in a Casa?

Is there a map list of casas in MDE?

TIA.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083968]Have learned a lot by reading thru the reports.

Have a few questions and would love the groups tips/ advice and warnings.

Would like to do a threesome. Double BJ and lesbian action.

Can you do this at the Casas? Any recommendations?

What about Mileroticos? Some look tasty and prices seem good. I have been in contact w a few independents working out of Apts it seems in the Laureles and Belen areas.[/QUOTE]You'll be able to get a threesome at both casas and online. Lesbian action will most likely cost more. I haven't tried the casas for threesomes here in Colombia, so I can't speak for that. I did find a pair off Mileroticos as it was a group of women sharing the same house with their own ads online. They wanted more than double for lesbian action and I declined.

My personal suggestion is to find a single woman you have good chemistry with and then arrange a threesome later. You'll have better luck if they are friends or like each other because they'll be more into it. The best threesomes I've had were with best friends, once in Colombia and twice in Brazil. The worst outcome is paying for two women and neither of them being good in bed. This isn't gospel, as I've had good experiences with two newcomers, but I've also had lackluster experiences too.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3083951]It's starting to catch up to Brazil. Brazil used to be about twice as expensive as Colombia but now it's more like 25% more expensive. You generally get more bang for your buck so to speak in Brazil and there is something to be said for being able to walk two blocks without encountering a leg breaking sidewalk hole. The dollar could bounce back. It's good to have options.[/QUOTE]I've always thought that Brazil and Colombia were pretty close (maybe slightly more expensive in Brazil) if you consider that BBBJ is pretty standard in Brazil where as you'd be paying 50 k to 80 k extra for it in Colombia. Now I think Brazil is the better deal, easier to find girls and scene is better organized in Brazil.

[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3083993]The dollar will bounce back. [/QUOTE]This is far from a guarantee and if it does happen, it could take a decade. The world has lost faith in the dollar because it's being used as a weapon against the enemies of the USA. Every time they use it as such, it weakens the dollar. It may be too late to reverse this trend.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084017]This is far from a guarantee and if it does happen, it could take a decade. The world has lost faith in the dollar because it's being used as a weapon against the enemies of the USA. Every time they use it as such, it weakens the dollar. It may be too late to reverse this trend.[/QUOTE]We won't need a decade. We just need to get the current morons out and return some sensible adults to the room. And we can see a bounce in the right direction well before then.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084013]I've always thought that Brazil and Colombia were pretty close (maybe slightly more expensive in Brazil) if you consider that BBBJ is pretty standard in Brazil where as you'd be paying 50 k to 80 k extra for it in Colombia. Now I think Brazil is the better deal, easier to find girls and scene is better organized in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Facts, the value add for Colombia was the cheap flight and weak peso, now it's better to go to Rio and yes the girls there will take it in their face for.

Free sometimes even, oral sim cashmisha is almost standard there. I'm pretty sure I'm doing Brazil.

For the extended time next time for sure.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3083968]Have learned a lot by reading thru the reports.

Have a few questions and would love the groups tips/ advice and warnings.

Would like to do a threesome. Double BJ and lesbian action.

Can you do this at the Casas? Any recommendations?

What about Mileroticos? Some look tasty and prices seem good. I have been in contact w a few independents working out of Apts it seems in the Laureles and Belen areas.

Any recommendations here or is it too risky? Scope!
I have also checked Catador Colombia and Don Colombia and its been very helpful especially the reviews or reseas of Casas, chicks etc.
I got this tip from you guys here - much thanks!

I speak Spanish ok (was fluent as a kid but lost it - it does come back tho when Im in LATAM. I am dark. Not a gringo..[/QUOTE]People here noted that it's hard to get a genuine three way in Medellin as one girl will just fuck you while the other watches her phone and it's not too much interaction between the girls. I tried twice, once with a girl I've seen multiple times who was super agreeable to everything and super enthusiastic about sex in general, and both times it was exactly as people warned here. One girl would fuck me, the other would watch, maybe a little light kissing or half hearted pussy licking in the background. And this was after me really emphasizing in Spanish that I wanted a three way and not just watching along. I concluded that's just the culture here. If you try, hope you have better luck.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3084027]Facts, the value add for Colombia was the cheap flight and weak peso, now it's better to go to Rio and yes the girls there will take it in their face for.

Free sometimes even, oral sim cashmisha is almost standard there. I'm pretty sure I'm doing Brazil.

For the extended time next time for sure.[/QUOTE]How would you say MDE compares to Tijuana?

[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3084000]You'll be able to get a threesome at both casas and online. Lesbian action will most likely cost more. I haven't tried the casas for threesomes here in Colombia, so I can't speak for that. I did find a pair off Mileroticos as it was a group of women sharing the same house with their own ads online. They wanted more than double for lesbian action and I declined.

My personal suggestion is to find a single woman you have good chemistry with and then arrange a threesome later. You'll have better luck if they are friends or like each other because they'll be more into it. The best threesomes I've had were with best friends, once in Colombia and twice in Brazil. The worst outcome is paying for two women and neither of them being good in bed. This isn't gospel, as I've had good experiences with two newcomers, but I've also had lackluster experiences too.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it will do!

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084017]This is far from a guarantee and if it does happen, it could take a decade. The world has lost faith in the dollar because it's being used as a weapon against the enemies of the USA. Every time they use it as such, it weakens the dollar. It may be too late to reverse this trend.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying we'll get back to 4000 COP, but it was 3500 just a few months back. I also think Colombia's new president will hurt the economy. He's a huge fan of our president and will implement a lot of the same BS that has been hurting the US economy. Look at Argentina, they elected a similar president and while their economy had a small boost after he took office, it's been trending downwards since.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3084082]How would you say MDE compares to Tijuana?[/QUOTE]It's no competition! Colombian women are so much more attractive, at least to my discriminating eye they are. And Medellin is a much nicer city than Tijuana is. That's my view of it anyway. That view is not held by absolutely everyone, but I do not hesitate to say that it's the strong majority viewpoint shared among most.

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3084082]How would you say MDE compares to Tijuana?[/QUOTE]No comparison. Medellin is the best I've seen and I've been to many places in Mexico, carribeans, central America.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3084145]No comparison. Medellin is the best I've seen and I've been to many places in Mexico, carribeans, central America.[/QUOTE]Thanks and excited for my first trip to MDE!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3084091]It's no competition! Colombian women are so much more attractive, at least to my discriminating eye they are. And Medellin is a much nicer city than Tijuana is. That's my view of it anyway. That view is not held by absolutely everyone, but I do not hesitate to say that it's the strong majority viewpoint shared among most.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I agree and that just looking at pics on review sites and Mile.

Also price wise even with the weak dollar. A helluva better value than Tijuana.

HK prices are on avg $120+ and the prices I have seen at the nicer Casas and half that.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3084091]It's no competition! Colombian women are so much more attractive, at least to my discriminating eye they are. And Medellin is a much nicer city than Tijuana is. That's my view of it anyway. That view is not held by absolutely everyone, but I do not hesitate to say that it's the strong majority viewpoint shared among most.[/QUOTE]The ocean in Baja is as good as anywhere on the west coast. Ymmv alas the women in Baja do not compare to Colombia. Again, ymmv but If anyone has checked into the casa sites on catador Colombia the prices start around $60. Legit. You can spend more. If you are comfortable NOT going to a bar. Lounge or club. It's amazing, time consuming (slightly dangerous) but the talent is thru the roof. Lleras park not so much. Any comments?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3084091]...And Medellin is a much nicer city than...[/QUOTE]I've been here a week, and I have to say, I really enjoy the place. I haven't been mongering much at all. Although I did have an 18 yo Psychology major from Bucaramanga yesterday. I really do need to post some reports.

But, I do enjoy the pace of the city, the weather is great of course. I'm here mostly for medical stuff, so I've found myself in traffic during rush hours (morning, lunch and evenings), and I can't say that the traffic is terrible, compared to most places I've been. Like you won't get stuck for 2-3 cycles at a traffic light as an example.

Colombian food definitely isn't great, though. But there's lots of restaurants that serve other stuff so there's that. Trade-offs.

Besides how green the entire city is, I've been really impressed by how clean it is. Compared to most places I've been in the developing world, the streets are generally clean.

It's also only taken me a single week to understand why people here really fucking hate creep cams in El Centro, and bad behavior at Parque Lleras.

I've seen guys here say "Colombian people are proud", in a condescending kind of way. What I've seen is that the vast majority of people here are just decent people going on about their lives. I don't see a lot of social chaos: people queue up to use the ATM, or to pay for stuff at the store. They don't speaking loudly indoors. Are generally polite. Even the fucking motos are at a reasonable noise level! Having just left Santo Domingo where motos give you a headache, here you'll be surrounded by dozens on the roads and it isn't an unbearable racket.

Overall, you get the sense that Colombians aspire to live more sophisticated and classy lives than their country's economic reality can match. You simply cannot say that about most poorer countries. So it's easier to understand why they wouldn't take too kindly for their city / country to be depicted as some open air brothel. My other post was about how mature they are about sex, overall. Which I think a lot of guys take to mean that the entire place is a meat market and they can behave poorly with no consequence.

All of this kind of contrasts with how brutal and ruthless their criminal element is. It's a real dichotomy.

For what it's worth, I'm staying in Belen, where there's a more working class vibe. Not a lot of foreigners, or wealthy locals.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3084167]I've been here a week, and I have to say, I really enjoy the place.[/QUOTE]One Mexican city that I think is even nicer than Medellin in Monterrey. And it has better food too haha! That said, Medellin blows Monterrey away when it comes to the "talent", if you know what I mean:

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[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3084086]I'm not saying we'll get back to 4000 COP, but it was 3500 just a few months back.[/QUOTE]I have been keeping my fingers crossed that we'll eventually get back to 5,000, LOL. I hadn't started traveling to Colombia yet back then, so I didn't get to enjoy that.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3084168]One Mexican city that I think is even nicer than Medellin in Monterrey. And it has better food too haha! That said, Medellin blows Monterrey away when it comes to the "talent", if you know what I mean:

[POST]3080584[/POST][/QUOTE]Over the summer, I told ChatGPT some of the things that are important to me as I want to start being a bit more nomadic around LATAM. Monterrey came VERY high up on the list of cities based on the things that are important to me. Along with a few others in Mexico.

So, I plan to pass through sometime in 2027.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3084217]Over the summer, I told ChatGPT some of the things that are important to me as I want to start being a bit more nomadic around LATAM. Monterrey came VERY high up on the list of cities based on the things that are important to me. Along with a few others in Mexico.

So, I plan to pass through sometime in 2027.[/QUOTE]Monterrey scorching heat.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084017]This is far from a guarantee and if it does happen, it could take a decade. The world has lost faith in the dollar because it's being used as a weapon against the enemies of the USA. Every time they use it as such, it weakens the dollar. It may be too late to reverse this trend.[/QUOTE]I'm not a big fan of overusing the dollar as a weapon (a moderate amount is ok). That said the USD index (opposite all trade currencies) is actually above its average since 1990.

What has happened with the USD against the Colombian Peso looks to be idiosyncratic. In the last 4 months, USD is about 20% lower vs the Col Peso. In that same period of time, the USD is higher vs the Real, the Canadian Dollar, and the Euro.

I don't know what's going on with Colombia but there appears to be significant foreign flows into the country in the last few months.

Keep in mind the USD / Col rate was below 2,000 for virtually all of 2010 - 2014. Not saying it's going to go back there, but it certainly could.

[QUOTE=Combo;3084232]I don't know what's going on with Colombia but there appears to be significant foreign flows into the country in the last few months.[/QUOTE]I've read that the high interest rates being paid by the banks in Colombia are attracting new foreign currency, thus lessening the need for the government to purchase USD.

I wish everyone would use your post as an example for posting about world affairs. Political opinions are supposed to be banned here.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3084273]I've read that the high interest rates being paid by the banks in Colombia are attracting new foreign currency, thus lessening the need for the government to purchase USD.

I wish everyone would use your post as an example for posting about world affairs. Political opinions are supposed to be banned here.[/QUOTE]It's more to do with the US dollar losing value as the Japanese and the Chinese are selling US securities.

As far as the Peso is concerned I guess the fundamentals are strong Tourism is up Oil is up Coffee is up and Gold is up. That helps. There is renewed investor confidence in Colombia and that plays a part as well.

Finally Cocaine is way up as far as it being sold abroad and as that money comes back into the Colombian economy that's probably the biggest help.

I'm no economist but that's generally what I see.

I would encourage frequent Colombia visitors to consider getting some kind of visa or finding a bank who will open a simple account there. A couple of months ago you could get up to 14% Interest on a Rappi Bank account. You could lock in a 12% Interest rate on a 6 month CD as well. The weirdness of Colombia is that a savings account earns more interest
than a CD which tells you all you need to know about the wild Inflation and currency swings with the Peso. Maybe 6 months from now we will be at 3500 to 1. Who knows?

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Combo;3084232]Keep in mind the USD / Col rate was below 2,000 for virtually all of 2010 - 2014. Not saying it's going to go back there, but it certainly could.[/QUOTE]The problem is that inflation and the 3000+ exchange rate has normalized the prices here. It's already expensive for a LATAM country and an additional 33% drop in exchange rates will make Colombia not worth it. The prices for food and alcohol at restaurants here is already more than many places in the US. Combine that with more expensive lodging and the only advantage it would have over Brazil would be the flight options.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3084273]I've read that the high interest rates being paid by the banks in Colombia are attracting new foreign currency, thus lessening the need for the government to purchase USD.

I wish everyone would use your post as an example for posting about world affairs. Political opinions are supposed to be banned here.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's political to point out that the most of the world has been dumping the USD since 2025. The Brazilian real was 6.18 end of 2024 and is now 5.12, regardless of any uptick in the past months. The EUR was 0.97 end of 2024 and is now 0.86. It was 1.02 in 2022, extremely rare for the dollar to be more than the euro. And the answer to why this is happening is obvious.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3084303]It's more to do with the US dollar losing value as the Japanese and the Chinese are selling US securities.[/QUOTE]If that were the case, the USD would be losing value across the board. As Combo pointed out, in the last four months the USD has gained value against the Euro, Canadian dollar, and the Brazilian Real. It is about the same value against the Japanese Yen.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3084316]If that were the case, the USD would be losing value across the board. As Combo pointed out, in the last four months the USD has gained value against the Euro, Canadian dollar, and the Brazilian Real. It is about the same value against the Japanese Yen.[/QUOTE]Geopolitics and World Finance is beyond the scope of this board but I will say fighting a war doesn't bode well for international bond markets.

The Japanese sold US securities to shore up the Yen. Technically Foreign Investment is down in Colombia this year but the Peso is up. My oblique uneductaed guess is that Cocaine crops have been way up for years Drugs went out and money came in. Other than that I got nothing on why the Peso is so high against the dollar.

If I were a Colombia simp Gringo youtuber I would encourage you to not come hoping that would some how affect the Peso or the amount a Parque Llreas Puta charges. As an Expat and a monger I'the say that anyone stupid enough to go to Parque Llreas right now deserves whatever price a chica charges you. However either way it doesn't affect the economy of Colombia as a whole in the slightest.

Either way your guess is as good as mines. If you choose to deal with a chick maybe check out Price it Colombia to find out the real cost of things down here.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Ailen 170 K 1 HR + 120 K oral natural.

I had seen her last year, you can search my reviews.

If you are looking for a TRUE massage professional that gives a great happy ending with lots of passion, kissing and a BJ, this is the girl for you. But she will not do vaginal penetration. Which is fine by me, but just a heads up for you guys.

I arrive at her apartment which is a weird enclave in Belen, it's kinda far but her place makes it worth it.

She is about 30 with very cute face and signature bright red hair. I hadn't seen her in so long and she instantly recognized me, we stare, look at each other and give each other a HUGE long deep kiss. It was like an old hook up body and instantly made me feel welcome and hard.

She has upgraded her setup and now as a dedicated room with a massage table with a complete cut out and pillow for your head. I hand the money, get undressed and lay down on my stomach. She comes back in a min later with water and starts the massage.

The vibes are perfect, lighting, sound, she really knows how to create an atmosphere. She has ALL the tricks, hot oils, special massage vibrator, those tingle things for your head. She really knows what she is doing and takes pride in her work. She is also very strong and can go deep into your muscles. She's going over my entire body and while I'm down she slowly starts to brush her fingers around my balls. I love this type of tease as it gets you ready for the main event when you turn.

She does the flip and starts to massage my legs, then she un does her top and bottom and now she is looking at me and rubbing all around my thighs. I grab her perky nipples and play with them and then ask to go in for a kiss which is obliged. We start to kiss as well and it's getting deep and passionate. She comes up and starts slowly grabbing and jerking my already hard cock. I keep touching her firm ass and tits and play a little with her and she grabs the alcohol. She gets me all cleaned up and then finally takes me into her mouth. Fuck! Her tounge feels like silk and I already want to pop after 20 seconds of it. She has the perfect stroke and suck ratio and I tell her she has to stop or I'm going to cum! We stop and she just is rubbing around my thighs and kissing me. We go back to her sucking and stroke and the reality is, I just can't take it, I ask her where she wants my cum and she points to her tits, she switches up so I'll shoot on her tits while grabbing her ass. This is such an amazing view and feeling that as I pop I can feel all of my body shaking, I must have been nutting forever and I'm grabbing her ass hard as I shoot it all over her. She keeps stroking until I tell her to stop and she is soo happy and smiling at me. She cleans me up and then I go to the shower across the hall. I feel sooo relaxed I stand there while the cold water hits me. I usually take warm ones but I want to feel my core cool down. I walk back slowly, get dressed and we hug each other and give a long kiss. She then lays out cards on a table and makes me pick numbers, she is into tarot cards and reads my fortune. It's cute and I play along but this chick def a gem stone, hippie out of space type girl. I pitch her ass on the way out as my taxi arrives.

Guys, if you are missing that true massage and happy ending, this is 1000% your girl.

[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3084306]The problem is that inflation and the 3000+ exchange rate has normalized the prices here. It's already expensive for a LATAM country and an additional 33% drop in exchange rates will make Colombia not worth it. The prices for food and alcohol at restaurants here is already more than many places in the US. Combine that with more expensive lodging and the only advantage it would have over Brazil would be the flight options.[/QUOTE]Agree with all of this. Since my first time in meddy in January 2025 prices have gone up 33% just due to the dollar / peso fuckery. Still going to go to Colombia as it is my favorite but damn this stuff needs to chill out.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3084341]Agree with all of this. Since my first time in meddy in January 2025 prices have gone up 33% just due to the dollar / peso fuckery. Still going to go to Colombia as it is my favorite but damn this stuff needs to chill out.[/QUOTE]It may or may not chill out. As I've pointed out, the USD / Col Peso rate was below 2000 for most of 2010-2014.

[QUOTE=Combo;3084359]It may or may not chill out. As I've pointed out, the USD / Col Peso rate was below 2000 for most of 2010-2014.[/QUOTE]Damn so my first time it was pretty high. I was wondering why people used to say Colombia is expensive. Now I understand better. I was like man Colombia is cheap as heck the first time I went but now I see what's going on.

[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3084306]I don't think it's political to point out that the most of the world has been dumping the USD since 2025. The Brazilian real was 6.18 end of 2024 and is now 5.12, regardless of any uptick in the past months. The EUR was 0.97 end of 2024 and is now 0.86. It was 1.02 in 2022, extremely rare for the dollar to be more than the euro. And the answer to why this is happening is obvious.[/QUOTE]Here is a link to a five year chart, from which people can draw their own conclusions.

[URL]https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=5Y[/URL]

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3084364]Damn so my first time it was pretty high. I was wondering why people used to say Colombia is expensive. Now I understand better. I was like man Colombia is cheap as heck the first time I went but now I see what's going on.[/QUOTE]I always said it was going to bite people in the ass when the rate swings the other way. Where are all of those it is only $40 and don't be cheap folks? Are people still giving out those 50,000 peso tips?

When I go to the gym, I see dime pieces and I think about how we used to have these joints for $13 USD in the casas back in the day. I get trolled when talking about the good ole days. Same with Sosua. Eventually I see the trolls start complaining and I just sit back and laugh. It's the same sht over and over.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3084367]Here is a link to a five year chart, from which people can draw their own conclusions.

[URL]https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=5Y[/URL][/QUOTE]Great charts. Compare major currencies vs USD and COP or CRC vs USD. It is not about the USD, it is all about COP and CRC gaining value.

I saw this girl and she looked like this non pro that I tried to fuck that was from Bogota. When I saw her.

It was like I could fulfill a fantasy of finally fucking the girl! (Except her eyes are blue from contacts).

I drove to her weird off street in Laurles in estadio and immedeitly feel uncomfortable. This is the type of side street where all you need is 1 guy on a Moto to see an oppritunity to rob you. I waited at the door and tried to be discreet but they took their time opening it. Also at the same time there was a guy hanging around, I didn't know if he was look out or just someone from the beighrood. Later I find out he was a look out, but still it just made my ass clench up.

Eventually they buzz me in, I go upstairs 4 flights and into a barebones aparmen that has like 4 people hanging in there. A girl running the place met me at the door and walked me to a room down the hall. After another 3 minutes in comes this petite beauty. She wasn't like the most stunning but wasn't ugly or anything, but she was much tinnier then I though she would be. She smiled at me, we kissed a little bit and then I gave her the $.

She comes back after another min and we lay on the bed with our clothes till on, I put on some music and she is feeling nice. The fan gets turned on and then we kiss a bit more. She isn't kissing much but then I explain how she looks like this Girl that lied to me and broke my heart and seeing her is like fucking for revenge!

She takes her shoes off I see how tiny she is, like barely 5 ft. It's cute and she has much bigger tits then her photos let on with pink perky nips. I suck and squeeze them and she is very receptive. She goes to attack my cock and doesn't even do the alcohol wipe, just puts it in her mouth! She is a good cock sucker and really gets into it, also does ball lick and sucking without having to ask. I get her down on her back. She has a small cute innie pussy that I can't wait to slam into. I strap up, she is tight to get it in and first but after some pumping it starts to work. We fuck In a couple of positions but I'm not really feeling it until we get into Quattro. I really fuck her hard and good and pick her up sort of and kiss her at the same time. I almost let her fall off the bed! Hahah I get close and I make her suck me off till I shoot on her stomach and tits. We clean up, she gives me a half ass massage after and then I call the taxi and bounce. Not bad if you are looking for a rola type.

Despite all the complaining and recent downturn in affordability, there are still great women here that justifies return visits. I met several new regulars in June and have met some new ones this trip. I hooked up with a blonde paisa last night and she stayed much longer than originally expected. The best part is when we're about to start, she grabs me and puts it in her ass. I'm so high on weed and Molly I didn't even realize at first where she was putting it. Absolutely incredible, one of my all time favorites. It's experiences like this that brought me back to Medellin the most.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3084385]When I go to the gym, I see dime pieces and I think about how we used to have these joints for $13 USD in the casas back in the day. I get trolled when talking about the good ole days. Same with Sosua. Eventually I see the trolls start complaining and I just sit back and laugh. It's the same sht over and over.[/QUOTE]Since covid and the influx of passport bros the MDE street scene is no longer a paradise of Colombian, not Venezuelan teen 6 dollar GFE creampies plus a buck fifty for the 30 minute room.

Casas during covid GFE no upsells 30 minutes for 20 something Colombian hotties without kids as you said for 13 dollars.

Leave it to the smart guys now that pay 100 k extra for a BBBJ because that is cheaper than las Vegas.

Colombia's a great place to find illicit substances if you want to risk incarceration in a Medellin prison or just disappear LOL.

I have seen several news reports that the new regime in charge of Colombia wants to eliminate sex tourism. Imigration with the police are going into Lleras and Centro asking for passports from guys and actually fingerprinting them with mobile devices. They plan on denying entry to these guys the next time they come.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084542]I have seen several news reports that the new regime in charge of Colombia wants to eliminate sex tourism. Imigration with the police are going into Lleras and Centro asking for passports from guys and actually fingerprinting them with mobile devices. They plan on denying entry to these guys the next time they come.[/QUOTE]They need to find a way to let these dudes know so they don't waste money on plane tickets and housing reservations.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3084552]They need to find a way to let these dudes know so they don't waste money on plane tickets and housing reservations.[/QUOTE]Youtube exists that's where I heard about the recent fingerprinting and scanning passports and all of that. Parque lleras is cooked.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3084553]Youtube exists that's where I heard about the recent fingerprinting and scanning passports and all of that. Parque lleras is cooked.[/QUOTE]What I'm saying is that after you get finger printed, they should let you know not to come back so you don't waste money on another plane ticket. I haven't seen this stuff happening, but I very rarely go to either Lleras or El Centro.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3084553]Youtube exists that's where I heard about the recent fingerprinting and scanning passports and all of that. Parque lleras is cooked.[/QUOTE]The new right wing regime has said that it wants to end sex tourism. If that is the case and they follow through all of Colombia is cooked.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084560]The new right wing regime has said that it wants to end sex tourism......[/QUOTE]That is idle talk. The new right wing regime is very US friendly and will do its best to be on good terms with the US and its citizens.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084560]The new right wing regime has said that it wants to end sex tourism. If that is the case and they follow through all of Colombia is cooked.[/QUOTE]I sure hope so. More for me.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084560]The new right wing regime has said that it wants to end sex tourism. If that is the case and they follow through all of Colombia is cooked.[/QUOTE]Isn't this something that happens in cycles? Countries that have high tourism will have political parties that run on ending it to sway the locals who have to deal with rowdy visitors, drunks, loud parties, and the higher prices as a result of businesses tailoring towards foreigners. The problem is their economies are reliant on these tourists and can cause stunt growth or help cause a recession if the drop is too sharp. Then when the public inevitably grows tired of the current political party, they'll vote for the opposite and the cycle reverts back.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3084595]That is idle talk. The new right wing regime is very US friendly and will do its best to be on good terms with the US and its citizens.[/QUOTE]You're funny.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084560]The new right wing regime has said that it wants to end sex tourism. If that is the case and they follow through all of Colombia is cooked.[/QUOTE]Come on now. Every regime they've had, right or left wing, says they want to end sex tourism.

[QUOTE=Combo;3084639]Come on now. Every regime they've had, right or left wing, says they want to end sex tourism.[/QUOTE]That's the kind of stuff politicians say to get elected. Legalized prostitution isn't going anywhere in Colombia. And as long as that's true, the sex tourists will come, I don't care what the authorities do. Hell, we got guys willing to go to war zones chasing after pussy! Money in hand, Colombiana legs open, will travel!

[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3084605]Isn't this something that happens in cycles? Countries that have high tourism will have political parties that run on ending it to sway the locals who have to deal with rowdy visitors, drunks, loud parties, and the higher prices as a result of businesses tailoring towards foreigners. The problem is their economies are reliant on these tourists and can cause stunt growth or help cause a recession if the drop is too sharp. Then when the public inevitably grows tired of the current political party, they'll vote for the opposite and the cycle reverts back.[/QUOTE]Monger tourism is a drop in the bucket, not something that would be missed economically. Tourism, that's a different story. And monger tourism hurts other tourism, so guess what needs to go.

[QUOTE=Combo;3084639]Come on now. Every regime they've had, right or left wing, says they want to end sex tourism.[/QUOTE]When was the last time they were fingerprinting mongers and checking passports in the streets?

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084542]I have seen several news reports that the new regime in charge of Colombia wants to eliminate sex tourism. Imigration with the police are going into Lleras and Centro asking for passports from guys and actually fingerprinting them with mobile devices. They plan on denying entry to these guys the next time they come.[/QUOTE]I haven't been able to post photos but they have prominent massive posters in English that state that the park in being monitored and that you may be next. It has created a chilling effect in the park.

Just checking here, I've been dropping some gems of reviews for providers and everytime I check back it's just chit chat.

Hope to inspire others to use this for reports.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3084664]I haven't been able to post photos but they have prominent massive posters in English that state that the park in being monitored and that you may be next. It has created a chilling effect in the park.[/QUOTE]What exactly the posters warned against? Soliciting prostitutes in public places?

I posted a detailed post this morning that something is indeed happening in centro, I noticed it a few months earlier. Not sure where my frigging post went.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;3084642]Monger tourism is a drop in the bucket, not something that would be missed economically. Tourism, that's a different story. And monger tourism hurts other tourism, so guess what needs to go.[/QUOTE]Very true. Look at CR. They are happy to lose such travelers.

This weekend the police disabled an explosive device that was left in front of the museum in Plaza Botero. Suspects were detained, more news to come.

[QUOTE=Plan77;3084684]What exactly the posters warned against? Soliciting prostitutes in public places?

I posted a detailed post this morning that something is indeed happening in centro, I noticed it a few months earlier. Not sure where my frigging post went.[/QUOTE]

I don't recall seeing street corner fingerprinting in the past. I wonder is that is more about a new piece of tech. Document checks are nothing new.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084646]When was the last time they were fingerprinting mongers and checking passports in the streets?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Plan77;3084684]What exactly the posters warned against? Soliciting prostitutes in public places?

I posted a detailed post this morning that something is indeed happening in centro, I noticed it a few months earlier. Not sure where my frigging post went.[/QUOTE]" The posters are everywhere. The task force has been in the daily news and has been for about a year now. If you read the travel advisory, it details the crackdown on sex tourism and addresses solicitation, filming and other conduct associated with sexual exploitation and prostitution in public areas.

This isn't simply a Medellin police operation. The enforcement effort involves multiple Colombian and USA Agencies, including Migración Colombia, the Colombian National Police, DIJIN / SIJIN, the Fiscalía General de la Nación, the Medellin government and ICBF. On the USA Side, documented cooperation includes the FBI, Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), the USA Marshals Service and the Department of Justice, with INTERPOL involved in international law-enforcement cooperation.

Authorities are also sharing information through immigration and criminal-record systems, INTERPOL alerts, international law-enforcement channels and platforms such as Angel Watch and NCMEC. Migración Colombia has also acknowledged using social-media information when investigating suspected sex-tourism activity.

So this isn't a situation where someone can simply show up at the airport, say, "I'm here for tourism," and assume that's the end of it. Immigration officers can question travelers about their plans and determine whether the stated purpose of the trip is consistent with the information available to them. There are documented cases of foreigners being denied entry after authorities determined that their stated reason for visiting did not match the evidence.

The important distinction is between adult consensual sex work and criminal conduct such as sexual exploitation, trafficking or anything involving minors. The current enforcement campaign is heavily focused on exploitation and trafficking, while also targeting solicitation and related public-order violations in specific areas.

The bottom line is that Colombia's enforcement environment has changed substantially. The country remains open to legitimate tourism, but foreigners suspected of coming specifically for sex tourism or associated with exploitation, trafficking, solicitation violations or other criminal activity can face significantly greater scrutiny and, depending on the circumstances, denial of entry, removal or referral for further investigation. "

[QUOTE=Plan77;3084684]What exactly the posters warned against? Soliciting prostitutes in public places?

I posted a detailed post this morning that something is indeed happening in centro, I noticed it a few months earlier. Not sure where my frigging post went.[/QUOTE]I saw a poster yesterday on facebook or instagram it was big and red and in english. I don't remember what it said exactly as I saw it and was like wtf is this and thought it was fake. If I see it again I will screenshot it and upload it here.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3084595]That is idle talk. The new right wing regime is very US friendly and will do its best to be on good terms with the US and its citizens.[/QUOTE]You mean being on good terms with the US by treating their sex tourists well? The US which has harsher prostitution laws and enforcement?

It seems Colombian policy on the matter is catching up to the US.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;3084642]Monger tourism is a drop in the bucket, not something that would be missed economically. Tourism, that's a different story. And monger tourism hurts other tourism, so guess what needs to go.[/QUOTE]I suspect the percentage of tourism that is monger tourism is higher than you would think. Whenever I'm on a flight to Colombia, its mostly colombians and a bunch of dudes. Its not like the country has great beaches. Bogota is a kind of a shit city for tourism, I'm not wandering around looking at the great architecture or history, more likely walking around looking over my shoulder. Medellin, has nice weather, but not much else besides the big rock. Cartagena has a cool old town, but shitty beaches for the most part. So many better places to go for real tourism.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3084600]I sure hope so. More for me.[/QUOTE]It will drive it underground and raise prices all around. Not a good thing.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;3084642]Monger tourism is a drop in the bucket, not something that would be missed economically. Tourism, that's a different story. And monger tourism hurts other tourism, so guess what needs to go.[/QUOTE]Why the hell would monger tourism hurt other tourism?

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3084846]Why the hell would monger tourism hurt other tourism?[/QUOTE]Normal tourists with families, etc. Avoid hotels with a reputation for hosting sex tourism. And why hotels that cater to tourists often have policies to discourage or not allow prostitution. If mommy and kids start noticing things like that it shows up on reviews, etc. Which is why there are laws in many of these countries to try to discourage sex tourism.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3084846]Why the hell would monger tourism hurt other tourism?[/QUOTE]It squeezes out other tourists, especially families, who spend infinitely more money per head. It's great short-term cash flow, but in the later years, when equity shifts, the hookers and the John's become a nuisance.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3084768]I don't recall seeing street corner fingerprinting in the past. I wonder is that is more about a new piece of tech. Document checks are nothing new.[/QUOTE]They have hand held finger print devices now to take your finger prints. Similar to a POS credit card reader.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084859]They have hand held finger print devices now to take your finger prints. Similar to a POS credit card reader.[/QUOTE]Some of us are old enough to remember when Parque Lleras did not tolerate street prostitution. Early 2000's they would run the girls away and tell them to take that shit in the clubs or to centro. As a developer, I don't see how they let it get like this in the first place.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084891]Some of us are old enough to remember when Parque Lleras did not tolerate street prostitution. Early 2000's they would run the girls away and tell them to take that shit in the clubs or to centro. As a developer, I don't see how they let it get like this in the first place.[/QUOTE]Another reason why the casas and mongering scene in El Centro were much better back then. But this was also before the gringo invasion. The tipping point hadn't been reached yet. Things were pretty much all in Spanish. No Starbucks, etc. Gringos would go to the Mansion. No youtube creep cam videos. Everyone was more relaxed.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084844]Its not like the country has great beaches. Bogota is a kind of a shit city for tourism, I'm not wandering around looking at the great architecture or history, more likely walking around looking over my shoulder. Medellin, has nice weather, but not much else besides the big rock. Cartagena has a cool old town, but shitty beaches for the most part. So many better places to go for real tourism.[/QUOTE]I have found that no matter how much I think a place sucks, the majority of tourists love it and can't wait to go back. Panama and Singapore for instance.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084891]Some of us are old enough to remember when Parque Lleras did not tolerate street prostitution. Early 2000's they would run the girls away and tell them to take that shit in the clubs or to centro. As a developer, I don't see how they let it get like this in the first place.[/QUOTE]The owners of the larger clubs in Lleras are very powerful people and they run the show. Remember the last time the mayor tried to shut things down, it lasted all of a handful of days and things went back to normal. I don't see it changing any time soon, some window dressing and that's it.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084891]Some of us are old enough to remember when Parque Lleras did not tolerate street prostitution. Early 2000's they would run the girls away and tell them to take that shit in the clubs or to centro. As a developer, I don't see how they let it get like this in the first place.[/QUOTE]Same shit I said about Sosua. But mongers have on blinders and act like that is normal and how it is supposed to be and think the city can not survive without them. Meanwhile, there are countless normal places without all that going on that somehow manage to survive. Mongers have a very delusional savior complex about themselves.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084852]It squeezes out other tourists, especially families, who spend infinitely more money per head. It's great short-term cash flow, but in the later years, when equity shifts, the hookers and the John's become a nuisance.[/QUOTE]They don't spend more than me per head I'm sure of that. Probably the same for many of us mongers.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3084907]The owners of the larger clubs in Lleras are very powerful people and they run the show. Remember the last time the mayor tried to shut things down, it lasted all of a handful of days and things went back to normal. I don't see it changing any time soon, some window dressing and that's it.[/QUOTE]Do you know how many people and places that same thing was thought about? Help in Rio, gone. Doll House in Santo Domingo, gone. Pablo Escobar, gone. Nobody and nothing is too big to be wiped away.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3084906]I have found that no matter how much I think a place sucks, the majority of tourists love it and can't wait to go back. Panama and Singapore for instance.[/QUOTE]For a while, one thing that set Colombia apart from its neighbors in the region was the low cost of living. If you want to actually LIVE in Colombia, it was a great deal. Decent living at a low cost. All that has changed now though.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084852]It squeezes out other tourists, especially families, who spend infinitely more money per head. It's great short-term cash flow, but in the later years, when equity shifts, the hookers and the John's become a nuisance.[/QUOTE]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. It’s mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]Most of the families you're going to see vacationing around in Colombia are, of course, Colombian. And of course, their voices matter.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]Same as Dominican Republic. In DR all the families and couples go to Punta Cana. In Colombia all the families and couples go to Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen many gringo tourist families with kids (lots of couples, though) in Colombia, but I have seen a lot of tourist families from other Latin American countries there. And of course families from other parts of Colombia vacationing in places like Medellin and Cartagena.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3084956]I haven't seen many gringo tourist families with kids (lots of couples, though) in Colombia, but I have seen a lot of tourist families from other Latin American countries there. And of course families from other parts of Colombia vacationing in places like Medellin and Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Yea, the couples are usually the wannabe hippies. Families from Colombia and other parts of south america don't have spending power that americans do and I think the average monger probably outspends them.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084852]It squeezes out other tourists, especially families, who spend infinitely more money per head. It's great short-term cash flow, but in the later years, when equity shifts, the hookers and the John's become a nuisance.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "when equity shifts"?

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084911]They don't spend more than me per head I'm sure of that. Probably the same for many of us mongers.[/QUOTE]They're probably need even getting head.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084960]What do you mean by "when equity shifts"?[/QUOTE]You know how they always say the second owner makes the money in real estate? It's an old adage, but the same shit applies here. They put up with the early years of the note, when a larger portion of the payments goes toward interest. Over the life of the short commercial note, they build equity through principal payments and appreciation. By the time they pay off the note or sell the property, they can be sitting on a cash cow derived from monger income. They let the cash and equity grow to the point where the monger dollar isn't worth the headache anymore. As in Sosúa, the Philippines, Santo Domingo, etc. This shit is rinse and repeat.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084911]They don't spend more than me per head I'm sure of that. Probably the same for many of us mongers.[/QUOTE]The hell they don't.

What the f— are you spending money on, tricking in the park? The families are eating, buying goods, running up room service, and the parents are drinking at the hotel bars. At most, you're in Gustos buying an overpriced bottle and a ***** they won't see a dime of. Even if the frequency of the visitors is lower, they still make more money overall, or PPA, as one would say in the restaurant business. It's not a guess here.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]Go out to some of the tourist places, Guatape, some of the beach areas on the Caribe, higher end hotels in Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, etc. There is a huge tourism industry. Not so much in the same areas as mongers hang out, but I think the vast majority of tourist dollars coming in are from that type of tourism, not mongers.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084911]They don't spend more than me per head I'm sure of that. Probably the same for many of us mongers.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. I take chicas out to great restaurants in el Poblado & Provenza & we eat good, usually steak, sometimes lobster.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;3084975]Go out to some of the tourist places, Guatape, some of the beach areas on the Caribe, higher end hotels in Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, etc. There is a huge tourism industry. Not so much in the same areas as mongers hang out, but I think the vast majority of tourist dollars coming in are from that type of tourism, not mongers.[/QUOTE]I've been all over Bogota and stayed at all the nicest hotels the city has to offer. I can confidently say I know the city better than 99% of the mongers on this board and what it has to offer. I've been to Medellin and Cartagena as well, buts its been a while since I've been back. I can believe that local tourism is alive an healthy, who doesn't like to travel? My claim is that wealthy families that would spend a lot of money in Colombia, specifically more money than an average monger would, are *not* coming to Colombia. The original posters claim is that families spend more than mongers per head. I'm saying I don't see a lot of international families. Plenty of domestic and south american families sure.

Think about an average monger weekend warrior coming down. Those are the types that are going to medellin and overpaying for women. They're paying about 100 usd per day + food + drinks + dates and accomodations in the higher priced areas of medellin. Thats assuming 1 chica per day at 100usd per chica. A lot do significantly more than that since they are on a time crunch.

I think you're probably right that due to pure volume other types of tourists are spending in aggregate more than the monger type tourists. But monger are definitely on average spending more per head than those tourists.

I predict the girl situation in Lleras is at an end soon -- Immigration is Taking names and fingerprints.

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[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3084977]Totally agree. I take chicas out to great restaurants in el Poblado & Provenza & we eat good, usually steak, sometimes lobster.[/QUOTE]And you're probably one out 20 and most likely not shopping for puntang in the park.

Solution is simple. Don't go to park lleras or centro. Just stary with other venue casa and clubs. All these are occurring due to exploitation by steaming llera park in various social media. Colombia is not a safe country for solo or family tourism as per state department. This is good in a way.. rates will come down. Medellin places will be only for experienced and risk takers..

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084852]It squeezes out other tourists, especially families, who spend infinitely more money per head. It's great short-term cash flow, but in the later years, when equity shifts, the hookers and the John's become a nuisance.[/QUOTE]What do you mean squeezes out? You think Medellin is operating at capacity?

The only argument that could be made is that other tourist doesn't want to travel to a place built on sex tourism, but Pattaya, Phuket, and Rio shows that to be bullshit.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084971]The hell they don't.

What the f are you spending money on, tricking in the park? The families are eating, buying goods, running up room service, and the parents are drinking at the hotel bars. At most, you're in Gustos buying an overpriced bottle and a ***** they won't see a dime of. Even if the frequency of the visitors is lower, they still make more money overall, or PPA, as one would say in the restaurant business. It's not a guess here.[/QUOTE]Money towards prepagos go more into the economy than what a family tourist would.

Men give money to women who then use that money on bills, rent, Healthcare, utilities, childcare, local goods and services.

A family is coming and doing what with their money exactly? To a rich international hotel operator? To a large restaurant group? To a museum?

Some of yall are so out of touch with basic economics but that's not surprising, you're the same ones tipping 50% for basic sex them bitching about how much the prices are inflating.

[QUOTE=VoodooJones;3084306]I don't think it's political to point out that the most of the world has been dumping the USD since 2025. The Brazilian real was 6.18 end of 2024 and is now 5.12, regardless of any uptick in the past months. The EUR was 0.97 end of 2024 and is now 0.86. It was 1.02 in 2022, extremely rare for the dollar to be more than the euro. And the answer to why this is happening is obvious.[/QUOTE]People aren't "dumping" usd, the government does things to strengthen or weaken USD in order to affect global trade and influence foreign investment.

When the USD is cheap, it's cheaper for foreigners to import us goods to their country and cheaper for them to invest their money in the states. That's a way to stave off recession and encourage trade deals.

This is economics 101. This is probably solely the reason recession probability is at the lowest it's been in years.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;3084982]I predict the girl situation in Lleras is at an end soon -- Immigration is Taking names and fingerprints.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DdTo7KCh9dH/?stkn=MWFpMm8yem1vODRtbQ%3D%3D[/URL][/QUOTE]I plan to go to Colombia in 2027 and had no plans to hang out in Lleras even before this development. So, it's not deterring me. In fact, I hope this does result in cleaning the park up and getting it back to how it used to be when I first started going to Medellin. Things have just gotten out of hand, and the whole scene can benefit by becoming more discreet.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3085000]Money towards prepagos go more into the economy than what a family tourist would.

Men give money to women who then use that money on bills, rent, Healthcare, utilities, childcare, local goods and services.

A family is coming and doing what with their money exactly? To a rich international hotel operator? To a large restaurant group? To a museum?

Some of yall are so out of touch with basic economics but that's not surprising, you're the same ones tipping 50% for basic sex them bitching about how much the prices are inflating.[/QUOTE]The discussion was concerning the cleanup of the park and centro. Prepago has shit to do with the discussion, as they're not banning that, nor are they banning picking up a girl at the club. They're focusing on the overt, in-your-face solicitation.

Your attempt to conflate the issues is laughable. Again, you picking up a chick and spending money on her in the club adds value. You standing in a location gawking at women is a public nuisance. As usual and proven repeatedly, mongers over estimate their economic value both short and long term to a community. What's so hard about, taking your ass in the club or restaurant and off the street.

I definitely don't agree with exorbitant tipping. It's been many years since I studied economics but as I remember it restaurant groups and hotel operators employ and pay people who then use the money to buy goods and services and pay their housing and utilities. Some tourism sector employees, like some sex workers, use money they earn to buy booze and dope. The surge in North American sex tourists that started around 2005 did not disrupt the Colombian significantly because the neighborhood in Medellin where it's centered is an outlier in most ways. It's also a tiny slice of the country. The impact is very noticeable in the zone surrounding Provenza and Parque Lleras in the form of loud bars and relentless construction projects. In the rest of the city it is not a thing, nor is it a thing in the rest of the country. If I spent a few weeks out of the year here and rarely ventured out of that zone, I believe I would see Medellin very differently.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3085000]Money towards prepagos go more into the economy than what a family tourist would.

Men give money to women who then use that money on bills, rent, Healthcare, utilities, childcare, local goods and services.

A family is coming and doing what with their money exactly? To a rich international hotel operator? To a large restaurant group? To a museum?

Some of yall are so out of touch with basic economics but that's not surprising, you're the same ones tipping 50% for basic sex them bitching about how much the prices are inflating.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3084998]What do you mean squeezes out? You think Medellin is operating at capacity?

The only argument that could be made is that other tourist doesn't want to travel to a place built on sex tourism, but Pattaya, Phuket, and Rio shows that to be bullshit.[/QUOTE]Another deflection from the subject. It is not a capacity issue. It is about discouraging local and family tourism and changing the area's reputation as a sex tourism destination. Prostitution is legal in Colombia and represents a significant part of the economy, but that does not mean the city has to remain dependent on sex tourism forever. Your inability to understand that basic distinction is embarrassing.

Nobody, especially me, is saying that sex tourism does not help build cities and destinations in the short term. I have explicitly stated that it can provide substantial economic benefits during the early stages of development by generating revenue, employment, and investment. Pretending otherwise is either dishonest or intellectually lazy.

The long term can be very different. Once a tourism base has been established and other industries have developed, revenue from sex tourism can shift from being necessary, to being minimal, and eventually to being viewed as a nuisance, particularly when overt solicitation damages the destination's reputation or discourages local and family tourism.

The cities you mentioned illustrate this shift. Pattaya, Rio, and Phuket have all taken steps to reduce or regulate overt sex tourism outside designated areas. These efforts include closing some venues, relocating others, increasing enforcement, and restricting entry for certain foreign nationals associated with sexual exploitation and related violations. If you cannot recognize that pattern, your understanding of tourism development and basic economics is far more limited than you seem to realize.

The conclusion is straightforward. A destination may benefit from sex tourism in the short term while later deciding that its long term economic and social interests are better served by diversifying its tourism base and reducing overt sex tourism. The current movement and worldwide push over the last six to ten years should disabuse you of the ridiculous notion that a destination known for sex tourism cannot change its focus or eventually impose much stricter restrictions.

[QUOTE=Jicks;3084995]Solution is simple. Don't go to park lleras or centro. Just stary with other venue casa and clubs. All these are occurring due to exploitation by steaming llera park in various social media. Colombia is not a safe country for solo or family tourism as per state department. This is good in a way.. rates will come down. Medellin places will be only for experienced and risk takers..[/QUOTE]This part.

As a matter of fact, Colombia became a very popular tourism destination for Dominican families. They continue to be among the top nationality of tourists. They buy inexpensive hotel, airfare, and excursion packages that cost less than the same two weeks in Juan Dolio or Punta Cana. The packages include domestic air between Bogota and Medellin, tours of museums, optional day trips to Guatape, and hotel accommodations. Wingo provides the airlift and they developed a network of Dominican tour operators. The tours do not include Parque Lleras but they do include guided tours of Centro. Cartagena is not a primary package destination because of its high cost. The groups use a few of the hotels on la 70. La 70 is relatively peaceful by Dominican standards.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3084954]Same as Dominican Republic. In DR all the families and couples go to Punta Cana. In Colombia all the families and couples go to Cartagena.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jicks;3084995]Solution is simple. Don't go to park lleras or centro. Just stary with other venue casa and clubs. All these are occurring due to exploitation by steaming llera park in various social media. Colombia is not a safe country for solo or family tourism as per state department. This is good in a way.. rates will come down. Medellin places will be only for experienced and risk takers..[/QUOTE]I doubt prices will ever go back down. Usually they just stop going up for a while.

I swear some of you are so far up your own asses with self-importance.

Reconcile this for me:

How do so many of you complain that "quality is down" in Medellin, because girls are travelling a lot more now. To Panama, Barcelona / EU, Costa Rica, etc. Then in the same breath say that monger tourism is somehow this massive percentage of the local economy? Because if there was so much monger money floating around, wouldn't the girls just stay at home?

Beyond that, I can also see that too many of you are not only in a gringo monger bubble, you're also stuck in the Poblado bubble. And if you are, how the fuck have I never heard a single one of you talk about the massive health industrial complex that makes up a huge part of the Poblado / Tesoro area?

I'm still in Medellin, and I'm here primarily for health reasons. I'm staying in Belen (now Laureles), with all my appointments in Poblado and Tesoro. I'm walking into massive tower blocks where every single floor is dozens of specialists, labs, clinics, you name it. I went to a place over in. San Antonio, I think, which was a tower block just for eye care. Floor after floor of dozens of opthamologists, opticians, labs, etc. I've never seen anything like that in my life.

And, even with the heathcare, it's not aimed primarily at the typical gringo health tourist. I could barely find doctors with availability who speak English. The labs don't have anyone there who speak English, either. Yet the places are packed. You can hardly get appointments. From what I could see, it's locals, plus latinos from other countries. I spotted some other Caribbean nationals in one place as well.

As for "what tourists are coming here? I'll offer up a couple of anecdotes:

- I flew in from Santo Domingo on Arajet. The flight was 80-90% full, and from what I saw, it was almost all Dominicanos. There was this one family in front of me at check-in (and later baggage claim) that were pissing me off because it was an early flight and I was sleepy. 9 of them. Mother, father, and what looked like their older children and nieces or whatever. Huge group. Definitely tourists. Sitting next to me were two late-20's, early-30's Dominicanas that I started talking to. Their English was better than my Spanish, and we chatted about Medellin. I told them this was my first trip. They said they go all the time, and that I'll love it and started telling me all the places I should go check out and restaurants to try.

- When I did get to Medellin, I stayed at a spot in Belen close to the LOS Molinos mall. I'd say about 60-75 rooms based on my rough count of floors and rooms per floor. I stayed a week and a half, and I never heard a word of English spoken while I was there. All the other guests were Spanish-speaking as far as I could tell. I saw families with small children. Couples. Groups of young women. A few groups of older couples. I was one of the only single men there. Certainly the only Black one from what I observed.

I ran into another younger black guy from Florida in the building across the street. He's a digital nomad and traveller, going from country to country. He was doing Spanish classes and salsa lessons. Definitely not the monger type. I saw lots of other foreigners staying in and around the immediate area, too. Pretty much all of them Spanish-speaking from what I noticed.

Beyond that, the local economy is self-sustaining:

- I've been to 4-5 malls now, and they're packed all hours of the day. I went to Oviedo mall because my doctor is in the tower attached to it and, at midday on a Thursday, the place is overrun with people having lunch, chatting, socializing. A few obvious gringos here and there. But all I saw were wealthier Colombians. Young people, grannies with their old gal-pals, families, professional women and their friends. It was lively, bustling, people spending money. In other places, I notice all the couples holding hands, going to get ice cream, or to have dinner in nice restaurants I was in. Husbands / fathers taking their wives and teenage children out to eat.

I say all of this to say that this idea that somehow the city will shrivel up and die if degenerates like you (us) stop coming is completely fucking ridiculous. This is a vibrant city with multifaceted life. Frankly, it offers a lot more than a lot of the places most of you come from. Oviedo mall, which I mentioned, is nicer than 90% of all the malls I've ever been inside in the US.

The problem, as I see it, is that westerners simply do not know how to handle sexual freedom and ease of access. Prostitution is legal here, and it's really just part of the fabric of daily life. Guys fly down here and lose their fucking minds because of cheap pussy. I've run into a few parceros at casas I've gone to. Regular dudes getting off of work with helmets in hand, just needing to bust a nut so they can get on with their lives. Guys here have been buying pussy forever. And that will never stop.

People hate all the extra shit being blasted all over Youtube making the city look like an open-air brothel, which it's not even close to being. Colombians don't strike me as vulgar people with a loud, vulgar culture. Even the Airbnb listings all seem to now have some house rule about bringing in guests, banning sex tourism, exploitation or women / minors, etc. People really are tired of the bullshit.

It's only taken me 2 weeks to completely understand exactly why they want to get rid of the worst of some of us. And looking at some of the investments on the way, and already started, clearly Medellin can do without a few monger bucks.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084937]For a while, one thing that set Colombia apart from its neighbors in the region was the low cost of living. If you want to actually LIVE in Colombia, it was a great deal. Decent living at a low cost. All that has changed now though.[/QUOTE]It has gotten much more expensive in the big three cities but in the smaller cities it is still cheap living. My rent for a brand new three bedroom apartment is still less than $500. Usd a month. Life is good here if you know how to roll and the chicas can't be beat if you aren't going with full time prostitutes.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3084913]Do you know how many people and places that same thing was thought about? Help in Rio, gone. Doll House in Santo Domingo, gone. Pablo Escobar, gone. Nobody and nothing is too big to be wiped away.[/QUOTE]Good point, fortunately it doesn't affect me or you either way.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3085096]
Beyond that, I can also see that too many of you are not only in a gringo monger bubble, you're also stuck in the Poblado bubble. And if you are, how the fuck have I never heard a single one of you talk about the massive health industrial complex that makes up a huge part of the Poblado / Tesoro area?
[/QUOTE]Because this isn't a Health Services board. I mean not that kind of health service at least.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3085097]It has gotten much more expensive in the big three cities but in the smaller cities it is still cheap living. My rent for a brand new three bedroom apartment is still less than $500. Usd a month. Life is good here if you know how to roll and the chicas can't be beat if you aren't going with full time prostitutes.[/QUOTE]I may have to expand my horizons in that direction in the near future.

Get a lot of pings on seeking from girls in Columbia, did anyone get a contact and did a meet up with them? With lot of girls available probably not needed, but just wondering if anyone done that. Was it safe etc.

I have only tried Bogota and Acacias. Bogota was too cold and wet and Acacias was too hot and wet. I'm thinking Bucaramanga might be a nice middle-ground.

What cities have you tried?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3085097]It has gotten much more expensive in the big three cities but in the smaller cities it is still cheap living. My rent for a brand new three bedroom apartment is still less than $500. Usd a month. Life is good here if you know how to roll and the chicas can't be beat if you aren't going with full time prostitutes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3085065]The surge in North American sex tourists that started around 2005 did not disrupt the Colombian significantly because the neighborhood in Medellin where it's centered is an outlier in most ways. It's also a tiny slice of the country. The impact is very noticeable in the zone surrounding Provenza and Parque Lleras in the form of loud bars and relentless construction projects. In the rest of the city it is not a thing, nor is it a thing in the rest of the country.[/QUOTE]A lot of new apartment buildings and on-going construction in Barranquilla without the tourists or sex tourists of El Poblado.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3085096]I'm walking into massive tower blocks where every single floor is dozens of specialists, labs, clinics, you name it. I went to a place over in. San Antonio, I think, which was a tower block just for eye care. Floor after floor of dozens of opthamologists, opticians, labs, etc. I've never seen anything like that in my life.[/QUOTE]That is just how things are done in Colombia. In the States, we have a central place (such as a mall) with a variety of businesses so you can go there and get all you need. In Colombia, they have a central place with all of the same type of businesses. One neighborhood of opticians. One neighborhood of hardware stores. One neighborhood of places that make keys. My friends say it is because if you do not like one place then you can just go next door to another. In my American mind, it is ridiculous. If I want to shop for 10 different things, then I have to spend a lot of time going to 10 different neighborhoods, instead of one neighborhood that has everything.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3085096]- I've been to 4-5 malls now, and they're packed all hours of the day. I went to Oviedo mall because my doctor is in the tower attached to it and, at midday on a Thursday, the place is overrun with people having lunch, chatting, socializing. A few obvious gringos here and there. But all I saw were wealthier Colombians. Young people, grannies with their old gal-pals, families, professional women and their friends. It was lively, bustling, people spending money. In other places, I notice all the couples holding hands, going to get ice cream, or to have dinner in nice restaurants I was in. Husbands / fathers taking their wives and teenage children out to eat.[/QUOTE]Same as the Philippines, it is a mall culture. People go there to walk around, eat, and watch movies. You can count on one hand the number of people who have bought something out of one of the stores.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3084977]Totally agree. I take chicas out to great restaurants in el Poblado & Provenza & we eat good, usually steak, sometimes lobster.[/QUOTE]That's how I roll. I stay in a luxury airbnb in one of the best buildings in Poblado. Eat out all lunches and dinners in expensive restaurants. Hire the best looking girls from FB and insta and have one or two of them every day. Uber around the city daily. I don't go into casas or clubs or take street girls. In my 16 2 week trips I have never been in Gustos. Only went down to Lleras once at night for 15 minutes just to see it. I can see why they want to clean that shit up.

[QUOTE=Emjayem;3085121]Get a lot of pings on seeking from girls in Columbia, did anyone get a contact and did a meet up with them? With lot of girls available probably not needed, but just wondering if anyone done that. Was it safe etc.[/QUOTE]I've used Seeking in various countries, including Colombia. You'll still need to connect with people and see what works best for you. I usually ask for their WhatsApp number and then continue communicating through the app. In case you disagree with someone on Seeking, they can report you, which is why I prefer to move the conversation to WhatsApp fairly quickly.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3085140]. I don't go into casas or clubs or take street girls. In my 16 2 week trips I have never been in Gustos. Only went down to Lleras once at night for 15 minutes just to see it. I can see why they want to clean that shit up.[/QUOTE]I completely understand what you're saying and I think a lot of people would agree with you.

But I think its different strokes and preference.

I personally LOVE point and click atmosphere of clubs. I know gustos price point is outrageous but I just collect whatsapps there then negotiate afterwards

Been trying to find other different point and click clubs but seems like its only the 2 in parque lleras.

I even asked bogata board about it but seems like its just a pobaldo lleras thing I guess. La isla is an adjacent but still different to me.

[QUOTE=Butch145;3085153]I've used Seeking in various countries, including Colombia. You'll still need to connect with people and see what works best for you. I usually ask for their WhatsApp number and then continue communicating through the app. In case you disagree with someone on Seeking, they can report you, which is why I prefer to move the conversation to WhatsApp fairly quickly.[/QUOTE]It is much better and easier to use than Seeking in the US. It's the place to go when you need to set up a meet ASAP. I prefer Tinder but have several girls from Seeking that have good profile pics. You have to talk offsite about what you want and how much.

[QUOTE=Emjayem;3085121]Get a lot of pings on seeking from girls in Columbia, did anyone get a contact and did a meet up with them? With lot of girls available probably not needed, but just wondering if anyone done that. Was it safe etc.[/QUOTE]Don't do it. You seem to be a prime candidate to get drugged.

[QUOTE=Emjayem;3085121]Get a lot of pings on seeking from girls in Columbia, did anyone get a contact and did a meet up with them? With lot of girls available probably not needed, but just wondering if anyone done that. Was it safe etc.[/QUOTE]I told people a gazillion times that seeking girls are not one thing. You have everything from the flat out scammers to the flat out hookers to the GND to beauty queens. It is not the site that matters; it is your ability to screen out the women.

The seeking women get thousands of hits. The dumber ones think that all these men want them when the reality is most men on seeking are themselves scammers trying to get laid for free. Your profile should reflect not that you are going to pay said women but that you have the ability to pay them. In the beginning, women were so awful on line and so much more receptive in person I did not get why, and the reason is there are so many male scammers. Until you break bread or have a drink with someone, you really do not know them that well. So my goal was always to get to that point.

Unlike with a hooker P4P type encounter, my goal was to find someone whose company I enjoyed but also I wanted to bang again and again. That is a huge difference guys do not get here about what sugar daddies are looking for. When I see a hooker, I typically was just looking to get an itch scratched. I rarely have repeated with hookers. It's like one in twenty or one in fifty something like that because most are nothing special. On the flip side, with a sugar baby who had shown she was good in bed, the majority of the time I repeated with them. The goal is a long term arrangement, but often I would meet women that I put in the hooker pile and would bang them and be done with them.

But it is work, and the yields are low. One in ten women I conversed with on line got to a face to face meeting. It was one in two that I would take to bed and then one in two I would repeat with. It is way easier to just bang and pay a hooker.

Thing is because you have been selective and screened right chances are that you are going to be with a much more charming, attractive, and skilled woman than average, and that is going to drive other guys to be jealous right? So do not expect guys to be impressed if you do well; too many are risk averse chicken shits. Their egos cannot handle female rejection. The work in getting the best women is being ripped off, stood up, lied to, and led on and bouncing back as if nothing ever happened. I have to admit that it slowed me down, but the reality is most women are fucking crazy and men care way too much what they think.

I think the other biggest hurdle is men lying to themselves about how much the woman really likes them. With me, the ultimate shit test was planning a vacation with a woman and seeing if they would show up. I knew which women would show up and get through customs and which women would have the excuses. My father is sick was usually #1. If I was 100% right on who would come and who would not, then you would ask, well, why buy the ticket then? I think part of it I was hoping that I was wrong, and being stood up gave me the right to close the door definitively on that person. These were not women whom I had never met. They were women I was banging but I was kind of on the fence with and vice versa.

And the last thing I will say is that sugar relationships are the normal ones today in that they are known to be conditional. Marriages are conditional as well but are being sold as if they are not. Guys were always asking me, "what happens if you quit paying her? Oh wait, you dumb asses out there still believe women in their marriage vows when they say they will be with you for richer or poorer? Really? The average married couple is having sex on average once a year. Women are filing for 80% of their divorces. Meanwhile, women are getting fatter and fatter, and men are staying with them even after they gain 100 lbs. And quit fucking them. But that is okay? That is legitimate? That cracks me up when guys do that. I thought the whole point of going abroad was to put happiness over being legit. The sugar relationship is honest in that it is conditional, but the BF-GF and marriage relationships are the ones that are not honest.

[QUOTE=Emjayem;3085121]Get a lot of pings on seeking from girls in Columbia, did anyone get a contact and did a meet up with them? With lot of girls available probably not needed, but just wondering if anyone done that. Was it safe etc.[/QUOTE]Columbia, South Carolina or Columbia, Missouri?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3085136]A lot of new apartment buildings and on-going construction in Barranquilla without the tourists or sex tourists of El Poblado.[/QUOTE]That's not the half of what's going on. This has been posted here before.

[URL]https://cazadecasa.xyz/blog/distrito-palermo-medellin-megaproject[/URL]

The Wake megaproject is very similar and only steps away from Palermo. It's not clear if there is sufficient demand for either of them. Shadowy investment groups behind them have the classic hallmarks of multipurpose money laundering (narcos, international tax evasion, foreign military and intelligence funds transfer). I personally would be very careful about these kinds of investments. There is a history of projects with one group of insiders and another group for the unsuspecting public with very different terms. The regulatory environment is wobbly. Any knucklehead like me can set up a corporate identity (I. E. "S. A. S. ") in an afternoon to build or buy property for visa purposes or developments like Wake and Palermo. In my opinion it's too easy to throw some money at a random person to be the identity of record for any kind of financial activity. I think this supports the idea that foreign punters are more of a reputation concern for Colombia than a financial concern.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3085689]That's not the half of what's going on. This has been posted here before.

[URL]https://cazadecasa.xyz/blog/distrito-palermo-medellin-megaproject[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3085971]The Wake megaproject is very similar and only steps away from Palermo. It's not clear if there is sufficient demand for either of them. Shadowy investment groups behind them have the classic hallmarks of multipurpose money laundering (narcos, international tax evasion, foreign military and intelligence funds transfer). I personally would be very careful about these kinds of investments. There is a history of projects with one group of insiders and another group for the unsuspecting public with very different terms. The regulatory environment is wobbly. Any knucklehead like me can set up a corporate identity (I. E. "S. A. S. ") in an afternoon to build or buy property for visa purposes or developments like Wake and Palermo. In my opinion it's too easy to throw some money at a random person to be the identity of record for any kind of financial activity. I think this supports the idea that foreign punters are more of a reputation concern for Colombia than a financial concern.[/QUOTE]Is that not the case with 90% of developments in the Caribbean, Central and South America? Hell, you want to talk about some of the shit built in the US? Let's start with Vegas, Miami, LA, Chi Town and don't even talk about Atlantic City.

There are buildings throughout the world funded the same way that nary a soul has occupied and or that has ever turned a profit. That's not unique to Palermo, El Poblado or Medellin. Money has always found its way into real estate, whether it came from organized crime, drugs, corrupt politicians, questionable investors or just plain old people trying to hide money. Real estate has always been one of the easiest places in the world to park large amounts of cash and make the money look legitimate.

Difference here is Palermo area has actually been profitable pre and post Parque Lleras Ho Stroll. That's the part people seem to be missing. Whatever you think about the source of the money, the underlying real estate actually worked. The area generated rents, attracted businesses, appreciated in value and became one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in Medellin.

Hell, they were yielding +7% pre hookers with 15% appreciation on assets. You had an asset producing income while simultaneously appreciating at a ridiculous rate. That is the kind of combination real estate owners spend their entire careers trying to find.

So how the developers, actual owners of the buildings, allowed it to get to this point is malpractice. You don't have to pretend the current situation is normal or that the deterioration was inevitable. If you owned an asset producing those kinds of returns and watched the surrounding environment deteriorate to the point where it started damaging the underlying value of the asset, there were obviously management decisions, political decisions and business decisions that could have been made along the way.

And that's really the bigger point. This isn't an argument that every building in the area was somehow financed with clean money or dirty money. It's an argument about what happened to an area that had already proven it could generate serious economic value. Plenty of places around the world have questionable money behind their development and still became extremely profitable. Plenty of others had questionable money behind them and became ghost developments that never generated anything.

Palermo and Parque Lleras are different because the underlying market actually worked. The demand was there, the rents were there, the appreciation was there and the commercial activity was there. The question isn't whether the area could make money. It clearly could. The question is how the people who owned and controlled those assets managed to let one of the most valuable and commercially productive areas in the city get to the point where the reputation and environment became a liability.

As stated, I do this for a living.

I took a stroll through Parque Lleras Friday night. Lots of chicas, lots of police, few to no gringos.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3085286]
The seeking women get thousands of hits. The dumber ones think that all these men want them when the reality is most men on seeking are themselves scammers trying to get laid for free. Your profile should reflect not that you are going to pay s In the beginning, women were so awful on line and so much more receptive in person I did not get why, and the reason is there are so many male scammers.
[/QUOTE]I saw you say something similar on a post several months back, about "male scammers trying to get sex for free". What do you mean exactly by that? Are these guys online who are arranging pay 4 play with women and then afterwards refusing to pay what they agreed on?

Friends, we've been hearing a lot of news about things happening in Medellin, particularly around Airbnb accommodations in Parque Lleras area. We're a group of seven people traveling for fun, and we're considering canceling our plans. Could you please advise us?

[QUOTE=BullBoy8;3086460]Friends, we've been hearing a lot of news about things happening in Medellin, particularly around Airbnb accommodations in Parque Lleras area. We're a group of seven people traveling for fun, and we're considering canceling our plans. Could you please advise us?[/QUOTE]Unless you guys are interested in trying out the spots like La Isla or casas, I personally would not recommend going to Medellin right now. The police presence is felt heavily, and the quality has dropped as a result.

[QUOTE=BullBoy8;3086460]Friends, we've been hearing a lot of news about things happening in Medellin, particularly around Airbnb accommodations in Parque Lleras area. We're a group of seven people traveling for fun, and we're considering canceling our plans. Could you please advise us?[/QUOTE]I'd still go but I only go solo. As a group you may be targeted more so I'd be more wary. Cartagena may be better for a group.

Hello,

I don't speak Spanish, I'm European, and I'll be staying in Medellin for three weeks in December, starting around Christmas.

I really enjoy partying. For example, when I'm in Thailand, I go out to nightclubs almost every night, and I would love to enjoy Medellin in a similar way.

However, I have to admit that reading all the stories and warnings on Facebook groups, forums, and other communities is making me quite nervous, especially regarding the risk of being drugged or robbed. It has reached the point where I'm seriously considering cancelling my trip to Medellin and going to Kenya instead.

I was planning to stay at **Viktory Boutique in Provenza* According to their rules, any outside visitor entering a guest's room must first register at reception and provide an ID. I imagine this already helps reduce some of the risks. I was also planning not to drink anything in my room when I have a visitor over.

What do you think? Am I worrying too much, or do you really need to be extremely cautious in Medellin ?

Regarding dating apps, are some considered safer or more reliable than others in Medellin? Is it also a good idea to always ask for someone's Instagram before meeting them?

Thank you in advance for your advice and for sharing your experiences!

[QUOTE=MxTH9;3086535]Hello,

I don't speak Spanish, I'm European, and I'll be staying in Medellin for three weeks in December, starting around Christmas.

I really enjoy partying. For example, when I'm in Thailand, I go out to nightclubs almost every night, and I would love to enjoy Medellin in a similar way.

However, I have to admit that reading all the stories and warnings on Facebook groups, forums, and other communities is making me quite nervous, especially regarding the risk of being drugged or robbed. It has reached the point where I'm seriously considering cancelling my trip to Medellin and going to Kenya instead.

I was planning to stay at **Viktory Boutique in Provenza* According to their rules, any outside visitor entering a guest's room must first register at reception and provide an ID. I imagine this already helps reduce some of the risks. I was also planning not to drink anything in my room when I have a visitor over.

What do you think? Am I worrying too much, or do you really need to be extremely cautious in Medellin ?

Regarding dating apps, are some considered safer or more reliable than others in Medellin? Is it also a good idea to always ask for someone's Instagram before meeting them?

Thank you in advance for your advice and for sharing your experiences![/QUOTE]Your biggest problem is rolling alone & not speaking Spanish. You do need to be cautious.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;3086535]Hello,

I don't speak Spanish, I'm European, and I'll be staying in Medellin for three weeks in December, starting around Christmas.

I really enjoy partying. For example, when I'm in Thailand, I go out to nightclubs almost every night, and I would love to enjoy Medellin in a similar way.

However, I have to admit that reading all the stories and warnings on Facebook groups, forums, and other communities is making me quite nervous, especially regarding the risk of being drugged or robbed. It has reached the point where I'm seriously considering cancelling my trip to Medellin and going to Kenya instead.

I was planning to stay at **Viktory Boutique in Provenza* According to their rules, any outside visitor entering a guest's room must first register at reception and provide an ID. I imagine this already helps reduce some of the risks. I was also planning not to drink anything in my room when I have a visitor over.[/QUOTE]I definitely wouldn't recommend going if you don't speak any Spanish, unless you plan to go to La Isla / Fase 2 and are fine with passing around google translate. Haven't met a single girl with decent English here.

I don't know if you read enough about the datings apps. I personally would recommend against it.

General statement and just my opinion, if you don't speak Spanish I personally wouldn't recommend coming unless you're into the strip club scene. The police crackdown and the government crackdwon is felt heavily in the park and in the outdoors. They're constantly monitoring the area and it has significantly decreased the quantity / quality of women. The clubs don't seem affected as much. And stay off the apps.

[QUOTE=MxTH9;3086535]Hello,

I don't speak Spanish, I'm European, and I'll be staying in Medellin for three weeks in December, starting around Christmas.

I really enjoy partying. For example, when I'm in Thailand, I go out to nightclubs almost every night, and I would love to enjoy Medellin in a similar way.

However, I have to admit that reading all the stories and warnings on Facebook groups, forums, and other communities is making me quite nervous, especially regarding the risk of being drugged or robbed. It has reached the point where I'm seriously considering cancelling my trip to Medellin and going to Kenya instead.

I was planning to stay at **Viktory Boutique in Provenza* According to their rules, any outside visitor entering a guest's room must first register at reception and provide an ID. I imagine this already helps reduce some of the risks. I was also planning not to drink anything in my room when I have a visitor over.

What do you think? Am I worrying too much, or do you really need to be extremely cautious in Medellin ?

Regarding dating apps, are some considered safer or more reliable than others in Medellin? Is it also a good idea to always ask for someone's Instagram before meeting them?

Thank you in advance for your advice and for sharing your experiences![/QUOTE]Ummm dude yes be worried. If you go in thinking it will be like Thailand you will be dead before day 3. You don't know spanish or the slang there (rip), want to go hard every night in nightclubs (that will catch up to you), going around Christmas where robberies and petty shit is at an all time high.

Good for wanting to stay at a place with security and not drinking when having a visitor over, but if you drink in those night clubs and stuff every night you will get screwed at least once in your 3 weeks of being there especially if meddy is your first time.

Stay away from the dating apps too much BS with them in meddy.

There's some guy that has a spot in meddy I know he is on this forum and he parties hard all the time but he knows the language and has his girls vetted good. As you're going to be first time visitor and no language and what not be very careful. I'd still go if I was you but just be careful man and trust no one.

Christmas time is a particulary bad time to come to Medellin. As a lot of people go to the campo and visit family. Additionally that is bonus time and robbers will be around stealing people's boneus payments.

Finally to me Medellin gets a little chilly at night in late December so I'the bring a sweater if I were adamant about going. The Period from December 16 (bonus payday) till January 6 (The official end of the Christmas holidays) is a bad time to go to Medellin especially as a first timer with no Spanish.

If you really wanted to come to Colombia that is the time of the Feria de Cali in Cali Colombia and more people stay in town in Cali. But I'the pick Thailand if you were defenitely planning for a Christmas trip with Kenya being second and Cali being third.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=BullBoy8;3086460]Friends, we've been hearing a lot of news about things happening in Medellin, particularly around Airbnb accommodations in Parque Lleras area. We're a group of seven people traveling for fun, and we're considering canceling our plans. Could you please advise us?[/QUOTE]A group of seven in this environment is asking for trouble. I'the advise staying out of the park as a group, and if you do decide to go out together, head to one of the places recommended, like Fase Dos or La Isla.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3086581]Christmas time is a particulary bad time to come to Medellin. As a lot of people go to the campo and visit family. Additionally that is bonus time and robbers will be around stealing people's boneus payments.

Finally to me Medellin gets a little chilly at night in late December so I'the bring a sweater if I were adamant about going. The Period from December 16 (bonus payday) till January 6 (The official end of the Christmas holidays) is a bad time to go to Medellin especially as a first timer with no Spanish.

If you really wanted to come to Colombia that is the time of the Feria de Cali in Cali Colombia and more people stay in town in Cali. But I'the pick Thailand if you were defenitely planning for a Christmas trip with Kenya being second and Cali being third.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]I'd add easter week to that. Both times are really bad to come to all of Colombia for mongering purposes. Quantity of women is way down due to people spending time with families.

[QUOTE=Ochiyo;3086557]I definitely wouldn't recommend going if you don't speak any Spanish, unless you plan to go to La Isla / Fase 2 and are fine with passing around google translate. Haven't met a single girl with decent English here.

I don't know if you read enough about the datings apps. I personally would recommend against it.

General statement and just my opinion, if you don't speak Spanish I personally wouldn't recommend coming unless you're into the strip club scene. The police crackdown and the government crackdwon is felt heavily in the park and in the outdoors. They're constantly monitoring the area and it has significantly decreased the quantity / quality of women. The clubs don't seem affected as much. And stay off the apps.[/QUOTE]I don't speak Spanish well still and have been visiting for years. I haven't visited a strip club here since my first trip and don't go to Parque Lleras. I now bring women over to my apartment and party here. A few speak English, most don't, but that's never been an issue. Some of my all time favorites have not spoken English. I had a threesome the other night and we all left happy. Now I personally don't drink alcohol because I bring my own preferences from the US, but I keep liquor for the women who want it. Be smart, don't leave your alcoholic drinks unattended. Scope must be ingested and it can be detected in drinks, that's why they put it in alcohol to mask the taste. And my final rule is don't waste your time with mediocre women. All the suspected women I've seen are not good looking. Hot women don't need to drug men to make money.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3086662]I'd add easter week to that. Both times are really bad to come to all of Colombia for mongering purposes. Quantity of women is way down due to people spending time with families.[/QUOTE]Yep People get out of town during the high holidays and the bonus paydays are in June and December people are walking around with a months extra pay on them and robbers and scammers know this.

Take heed.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3086566]Ummm dude yes be worried. If you go in thinking it will be like Thailand you will be dead before day 3. You don't know spanish or the slang there (rip), want to go hard every night in nightclubs (that will catch up to you), going around Christmas where robberies and petty shit is at an all time high.

Good for wanting to stay at a place with security and not drinking when having a visitor over, but if you drink in those night clubs and stuff every night you will get screwed at least once in your 3 weeks of being there especially if meddy is your first time.

Stay away from the dating apps too much BS with them in meddy.

There's some guy that has a spot in meddy I know he is on this forum and he parties hard all the time but he knows the language and has his girls vetted good. As you're going to be first time visitor and no language and what not be very careful. I'd still go if I was you but just be careful man and trust no one.[/QUOTE]Even with security stuff can happen. I think that is the place where someone posted a pic of a guy being taken out in a body bag. Somehow the front desk didn't get the ID of his visitor (s) and he got overdosed on something like scopolamine. He had been down celebrating a birthday I believe. Edit - that might have been Provenza Lofts, but somehow I think there is a connection

My overall assessment: Unless you have a few trips to Medellin and plethora of puta passarounds under your belt I would give Medellin and Colombia as a whole a miss for six month months to a year.

I'm not trying to gatekeep Colombia it's a wonderful place and although I'm not a personal fan Medellin a great city and with the new mall, beach / aquapark and tunnel it's going to greater later.

But prices are high because of the lower US Dollar, The strong Peso, More people moving in from Choco because of the earthquake, and the crackdown. You can't go to the Parque and I hear Centro is going through a Mini crackdown so for the meanwhile the sex shopping centers are basically dead. Again I think this is all about non accountability for their ¨excellent cadavers¨ I. E. High profile scopamine victims that they haven't gotten a handle on. Crime is way down in Medellin but so is Gentrification so I expect as less mongers come Medellin criminals will go back to drugging local rich people. Maybe the Airbnb superhosts who jacked up the rents to insane levels. So I would wait for the reset and them to declare victory and move on. The Mayor will probably make another run at the Presidency in two years and if there's a slow down then everyone will move on.

It's been said by expat youtube Colombia simps that sex tourism is very small part of tourism and that maybe be true and untrue at the same time because at the end of the day Meddy is just a random city It doesn't really have many actual tourist attractions The weather while good is not the tropical paradise that people want so like Sosua before it I suspect that if 70% of the mongers stop coming the other tourists will stop coming too and at least that might bring the prices for accommodations down.

Rant over.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3086662]I'd add easter week to that. Both times are really bad to come to all of Colombia for mongering purposes. Quantity of women is way down due to people spending time with families.[/QUOTE]We have to tell guys about this every year. Over and over and over again. And still some don't listen to those who clearly know better than them. Live and learn!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3086697]My overall assessment: Unless you have a few trips to Medellin and plethora of puta passarounds under your belt I would give Medellin and Colombia as a whole a miss for six month months to a year.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I went to meddy from January 2025 to May 2026 a ton of times in that year and a half but since May (Memorial day weekend) I haven't returned and won't return until second half of 2027.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3086697]
It's been said by expat youtube Colombia simps that sex tourism is very small part of tourism and that maybe be true and untrue at the same time because at the end of the day Meddy is just a random city It doesn't really have many actual tourist attractions The weather while good is not the tropical paradise that people want so like Sosua before it I suspect that if 70% of the mongers stop coming the other tourists will stop coming too and at least that might bring the prices for accommodations down.

[/QUOTE]That's what I've been saying, but some people seem to think that medellin and Colombia is the epicenter of tourism in the americas. Exageration aside. Medellin does not really have much going for it for the average tourist.

Hi sorry for the off the wall question, but my upcoming trip to Argentina was unexpected (Messi last soccer game with Argentina. I've been before but many many years ago —- are site here for some reason is completely down when it comes to this city, anyone know a site I can find out the recent seen their! Thanks in advance for anyone with any kind of help on this!

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3086387]I saw you say something similar on a post several months back, about "male scammers trying to get sex for free". What do you mean exactly by that? Are these guys online who are arranging pay 4 play with women and then afterwards refusing to pay what they agreed on?[/QUOTE]That would be given the scammers too much credit. You get kicked off the site if you mention a dollar number with regards to payment. So typical text would be a pic of some Chad type standing next to an expensive car saying, "I have a hotel today. Let's meet. " So for a woman, the schtick was like meet me at this hotel, fuck me, and I will shower you with cash (even though I never said I would). The come ONS were so fucking stupid that I could not believe anyone would fall for them, but I wouldn't be surprised if a few dumb women did.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3086736]That's what I've been saying, but some people seem to think that medellin and Colombia is the epicenter of tourism in the americas. Exageration aside. Medellin does not really have much going for it for the average tourist.[/QUOTE]Exactly It is kind of a Tropical Seattle. The weather is fine and when the Peso was low It made sense for digital nomads to stay here but now with prices gone sky high I fail to see the draw other than the chicas. The town thrived on vibes as word gets around that sex tourists are not welcome the relatively few high end tourists will leave too. The Parque Lleras clubs were focused on mongers and gringos. Get rid of that and it's all reggaeton. That's another thing with all the big Reggaeton artists they do not even promote concerts things. Cali promotes Salsa way more than Meddy promotes Reggaeton. Karol G should have a version of Dollywood in Meddy by now.

Goes back to the question why would a non monger go to Medellin? And why would they spend more than a weekend here? The only places they would want to be in is three rather compact neighborhoods.

I know there's Meddy addicts and if you know the city well you can have fun here but If I were considering a first trip I would wait to see how things shake out with the peso exploding in value and the Political posturing on this fake crackdown.

I assume victory will be declared no later than a year when the mall is constructed and maybe the mall itself will be a pick up area hard tp tell people to move along In a malls.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Today marks 3 weeks that I've been in the city.

I haven't been posting about any of my escapades mainly because I've been busy. I'm here for medical reasons, I've been working the whole time (including the 2 weeks I spent in Santo Domingo before flying over), so it's been mostly low-key. I haven't been to Parque Lleras. Also haven't been to El Centro. Not even once. I think I drove past the Parque on the way to an appointment, but I couldn't be sure.

I'd be a terrible guide for any man coming here to party it up. I haven't felt unsafe at any point, though I do practice common sense. With all the crazy shit that goes down, I don't really get the appeal of the party lifestyle. I've been out plenty, but I'm just past the age where loud music and alcohol are things that interest me. Rooftop bars / restaurants have been the most interesting places I've been. Good food, good company.

*Mileroticos*.

I've tested out a few pros off Mileroticos. All were great experiences. Mostly girls renting an apartment together and taking citas there. Nothing special, but sometimes I needed to empty my balls and didn't feel up for all the other bullshit. Anywhere from 80 k-200 k for 30 mins-1 HR depending on the girl.

One of them was a 19 yo Vennie flaquita. 100 k for 2 pops in an hour. Lord have mercy that poon should come with a warning label. I typically struggle for second pops, but she wrecked me twice within 35 or so minutes.

Another was a girl I saw in a porno and just had to have. I reported on this a while back. She was in a hotel in El Centro. Told her I wasn't going there at that hour so we went to a short time motel. Was pricey, but she basically fell in love. Got the first nut, and during the second I lost the condom in her. We had a laugh about it. She's been bugging me ever since to fuck again. We finally met up again last week at Suites 44 (also Avenida San Juan) - 80 k for 3 hrs. This time was BBFS. And I just couldn't last. 2 pops in under and hour and I was done. She said she needed to renew her phone service or something. I just reached in my pocket and gave her some money. She didn't even count it. As I'm typing this, my phone is ringing again as she's calling. She has a vlog on OnlyFans (OFTV) where she does travel content around Medellin. She's actually not terrible at it, and the production value is actually decent.

*Tinder*.

I've had quite a bit of fun off Tinder:

**18 yo Barranquillera*.

Had a college student during my first week. I asked for a pic of her cedula before we met just to be sure. Turned 18 in May. Took her to a short time motel in the afternoon for a romp. Among the freshest pieces of poon I've ever had the pleasure of eating. She came across as a bit unsure, maybe nervous, but not disinterested. Was very compliant and we had a good time all things considered. Took her to Hotel Ofix on Calle 44 (Avenida San Juan) in Laureles - 70 k for 4 hrs. Good spot for any of you looking for a safer place. Staff came to check on me before letting her leave.

**Afro Colombianas*.

These constitute pretty much all of my Tinder experiences here, so I think I'll save that for a report in itself.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086765]Today marks 3 weeks that I've been in the city.[/QUOTE]Great report. Meddy is a magical city. Best city I have been to so far.

I think 5 years ago my little head would have gotten me in big fucking trouble coming to Medellin. These days I'm more mellow. Maybe too mellow. Will still throw down in the bedroom, but just not as horned up as I was. Which is actually part of why I'm here. Had appointments with an endocrinologist to work through some issues I have.

Because of that, having 200+ matches on Tinder don't really phase me like it would have. A lot of it is just me being curious. It's amazing to see some of these girls' pics. You fuckers have been BUSY.

I see chicks with photos in Dubai, Panama, NYC, skiing in Aspen, Barcelona, Madrid, Tokyo, London. I know it has got to be some of you guys flying them out for a good old time. So now, when you chat them up, they're all starting at 400 or 500 k. For anyone thinking prices will ever come back down, good luck with that shit. The entire world is catching up price-wise. There's nowhere left where you can find pretty, dirty feet girls to fuck for $20.

I haven't taken up any of their offers. Mainly because I just never vibed with any of them.

Which brings me to my main point: the Afro Colombians have been a really amazing experience. If you see my posts in the Santo Domingo thread, I'm always looking for non-pro / non-hardcore girls. Just regular chicks who want to have some fun, and if they can get a few bucks they're happy.

*Ro*.

The first one I'll call Ro. She's 30 and older than her profile said. But we ended up getting along really well. Plus she has immaculate caramel skin that makes me weak. She's gym thick. Works out daily and you can tell. Has a day job, goes to school and works out in the evenings. Truth be told, I rarely get to see her, but she's not P4 P, so it is what it is. She'd probably want a relationship, and did tell me she thought about it, to which I told her I wasn't looking for that. But, I plan to be here every few months so it would be nice to have someone reliable to hang out with.

*Day*.

23,5'-1" and maybe 100 lbs dripping wet, with a bubble. I have a photo on my profile with a close-up of me biting my lip. The chicas generally love it, and she basically said wanted to come over right away to see me do it in person. She never quoted a price. Just said she was going to Cartagena today for the weekend and needed money for her trip. I had her come over on Tuesday because Ro was getting on my nerves being flakey. Within 90 seconds of being in my place, my mouth was on her tits. Blew me for maybe 20 minutes, then hopped on raw. She was so small I was tossing her around the bed, and bust a massive nut all over her back while I was hitting it pronebone with my hand around her neck. We walked down the street for some KFC (her choice), ate, and then went back to my place for a second round. I gave her 300 k because I am a nice guy, but I'm sure she'd have taken less. She's been blowing up my phone since then. Wanting to come by yesterday, as well as today before her trip to CTG. By the way, it's a 17 HR bus ride which leaves at 7 pm and gets in around midday. Asked her why not fly. The bus is 150 k, plane ticket is 300 k, but she has to pay for her sister so she couldn't swing it.

*Vee*.

I'll continue in a new post on this one.

I've chatted to a few others, and went out with another that I haven't really had time to chase down since then. She works crazy hours, too, and doesn't really have time, so I'm not fussed. Most are from, or their family is from Choco. A few from Barranquilla as well. One of them was from Turbo, which is way up there close to the other coastal towns with lots of Afro Colombians.

Obviously, being black, there's some affinity, but I have just found a less hardcore vibe amongst the vast majority of them. I still haven't fucked a paisa, though my impression is that they're mostly sharks. I've never really been drawn to pale skin, but I see why guys love them and love coming here. They really put a lot of effort into their appearance. Some of these bitches are immaculate. Different strokes for different folks though, I guess.

I love the DR. The Haitianas and mixed-Haitianas there have grown on me. Afro Colombians though add a bit more refinement. More stylish, softer. Still very amorous. One of the things I love most about the Afro Colombians I've been messing with is that only one of them has any tattoos. And only one of them was wearing fake hair and lashes. Told her to ditch the fucking cumbrellas, because she's genuinely gorgeous. Small sample size of course, but the amount of tatts on these young chicks in Medellin is ridiculous. Turns me right off.

So the obvious question will be: "Why not go to Cali, or Barranquilla if you love Afro latinas?" To which my answer would be: "I definitely will, but I fucking hate hot weather". I'm Jamaican, and I live on another Caribbean island, you can miss me with that heat and humidity. I'd rather go live in Alaska at this point. You wouldn't believe just how happy I am to not have my balls sticking to my thighs all day long for the past 3 weeks.

Medellin is Nirvana, climate-wise, as far as I'm concerned.

The last Tinder girl I met up with, I'll call Vee. She came by just yesterday. She 20, mulatto from Barranquilla but her mom moved back to Medellin when she was 2. She has gorgeous skin tone (like a cafe con leche), fit, and cute as a fucking button. Natural hair with a huge afro puff. Natural well-manicured nails. Natural full eye-lashes. I was flabbergasted.

Goes to the gym before her uni classes in the mornings, and does English classes in the evenings. We'd been chatting for a bit on and off, but she's either been busy, or I've been balls deep in someone else, or just busy with work and doctor's visits. Also, I initially thought she was P4 P like the rest, because she was so cute, so I wasn't really fussed.

But she kept suggesting we go get a drink or eat or something, so I finally relented and sent an Uber (20 k. She lives way the fuck out in Manrique). Where I'm staying in Laureles has maybe 40 restaurants in a 2-block radius. I'm spoiled for choice. So we went to a nice burger joint (150 k). The place is called Barrio Burger, with their burgers named after different barrios in the city. So I had the "Manrique" burger, because I'm whimsical like that.

Then we walked up the street and got her some ice cream (9 k) while we walked around the block and chatted. I had no plans to push for anything, plus Day had thoroughly drained my balls the day before so I wasn't as horned up. All of a sudden, she said "I need to use the bathroom". I sensed her game, so I said "Let's go to my place".

Took her back to the crib and we chat some more and then I pull her in and start making out. End up in my bed, she refused to let me eat her, so I just spent the time exploring that perfect 20 yo body. I will die on the hill that the leading cause of erectile dysfunction is fat, wrinkly old broads and their old pussies. Because I was at full salute.

She came off fairly inexperienced in bed. Definitely willing, and let me have my way with her. Raw. She came all over me within 5-10 minutes of us starting in mish. She was W-E-T, with what old guys would probably call a "Snapper". Had her ride on top, turned to spooning, then finished up doggy style, while pawing on that amazing gym-bubble.

I think she's just experimenting. She didn't give me the vibe of someone who has had a ton of sexual experience. She was always looking to me for what to do next, followed my lead the whole time, and as far as I can tell, thoroughly enjoyed it.

When I was done, I started laughing hysterically to myself, thinking about her being 20, and the day before I had Day the spinner who was 23. Together, they're still younger than me at 44, and my (soon-to-be-ex) wife who is 46. Not that she's old, nagging or wrinkled. But the world would tell older men that "these young girls only want you for your money". Which, first off, I'll gladly give it to them for access to fresh poon. And second, these old bitches want even MORE money.

But also thirdly, normie people simply don't understand just how many young girls really enjoy being with an older guy who can take her out, treat her well, be masculine and a leader, and also dig her guts out at the end of the night. Getting some money to do her nails or buy a cute dress is a bonus on top of that.

Which brings me to the second part of the title: How "free" is free pussy anyway?

After I sent her home (36 k. She lives in Manrique and nobody wanted to take the fare), I tallied all that I spent which I itemized above:

150 k for food; 56 k on Uber; 9 k for the icecream. Brings it to just over 200 k. Not bad at all.

I'm planning to see her tomorrow, and I told her I wanted her in a dress and heels. She says she has neither. So we ended up on an IG store, and I saw a tight short dress I wanted her to wear (130 k), and she saw a cute flowery dress (160 k) she likes that she plans to wear with her sneakers (fucking Gen Z latinas). Told her I'd get both, and she promised to borrow some heels from her girlfriend to wear for me. So this will be another 300 k. Peanuts, but the free-est pussy I'll get in Medellin certainly wasn't free at the end of the day.

Truth be told, I'd gladly pay triple.

So that wraps my Tinder experiences after 3 weeks in Meddy. I am done with all my appointments and tests, and got my prescriptions filled. I should be leaving on Monday, but the flight isn't booked yet.

Day wanted dick today but I declined, and she's going out of town. I am seeing Vee tomorrow, and Ro likely on Saturday. Also on Saturday, I might also spend the 500k and test out one of these paisa stunners clogging up my Tinder inbox. I've been chatting with some and I basically just say "300k, 2hrs, sexo natural". Most come back with 400k or 500.

Sunday I'm thinking I might split it between Vee and Ro to finish it all up. I could easily see myself staying another couple weeks because of how much I'm enjoying being here.

Great weather, everything I need in walking distance or 10 minutes in an Uber. I can't think of a single convenience that I cannot find here in Medellin. Plus, I've essentially built myself a pretty solid roster in that short period of time to where I could have great sex most nights of the week if I could keep up. Without even considering actual pros. Along with having great dates and conversations with some genuinely nice Colombian women. What more could a man actually want?

The guys who say Medellin is finished, or guys shouldn't come here, I kinda get it. It's not all out party central anymore. From what I've seen, that was an aberration. Nothing about the local culture suggests these are people who party like that, so I can understand why they're shutting it all down. But I also believe the sentiment overstates how important places like Parque Lleras are. You can make anywhere fun if you actually want to.

I would say that the weather in Cali is maybe ten to 15 degrees hotter than Meddy in the summer. Frankly it's almost the same It is an elevated valley. If you had to compare it to Santo Domingo. I'the say Santo is hot way hotter than Cali with more humidity than Cali. I do not gatekeep Cali but I do not promote it because it's way less gringofied than Medellin. No hip Hop no hennessey. In the rainy season like right now in October ID say the weather was almost the same. Really the main difference is Cali is more of the real Colombia as opposed to Medellin much cheaper for everything much much less traditional prepago type of girls. Obvioulsy Like everywhere there's more prepagos than you can shake a stick at but much more likely to actually meet a college student or a barrio girl if you have some spanish and not a weirdo. The dating apps while not having zero scope mobs not nearly as many as Meddy and the scope mobs are ¨local¨ in the sense that the girl usually lives in the area. The big Meddy mobs are local but they usually are able to get into your cash app and zelle and can send money to someone in the states who will send it down here, The Cali scope gangs are not that sophisticated.

Main reason way way way more Afro Colombianas. I described it to my buddy Grown Man as the Atlanta of Colombia and that it is It has the most Black People in one place outside of maybe Buenaventura but Buena is way more Colombian than most people (including me) can stand. Again like I always say for the guy looking for a lowkey vacation and you don't need paisas (there's obvioulsy many here just not as many as in Medellin) Real asses real hair and real culture then Cali might be your jam.

One caveat, I have found that people are either meddy fans or Cali fans as much as I post here I wouldn't want to live in Medellin personally I find it too antiseptic too gringofied hard to justify prices charged too hilly and low key racist for me. Obviously a tourist will not see racism but I almost never seen a Afro Colombian without a gun or a mop in their hands whereas the guy who run the electric company in Cali (and front runner for mayor) Is Afro Colombian. So for the guys truly happy in Meddy it is probably best that you stay there.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

It's one of those things that people tend to not want to talk about, but of course I've noticed it. The quiet part out loud is that the main appeal of Medellin is the fact that a lot of the women here have a European look, but a bit "spicier". And I get it. Frankly, I see the old abuelas shuffling about the mall, and you can see the lack of melanin in how poorly they age.

For the most part, I don't really walk around with a race chip on my shoulder. By and large I tend to avoid large groups of black people, to be honest. Calling Cali the "Atlanta of Colombia" would turn me away more than anything, because I do not like Atlanta.

Cali was supposed to be part of this trip, and you and I have chatted about it in the past, but Meddy had more options for the specialists I needed to see, so I just spent the time here. Plus it was simpler logistically with the flights.

Next trip, I'll definitely head down there. And I'm 100% sure I'll have a great time, too, as I do anywhere. Regular, non-pro women are my jam. All day, every day. Even with my middling Spanish, I'm charming enough to get into plenty of panties.

The only question I have is whether there's areas similar to Laureles where I can just walk to whatever it is that I want. Walk-ability is a big deal for me when it comes to city living.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086798]It's one of those things that people tend to not want to talk about, but of course I've noticed it. The quiet part out loud is that the main appeal of Medellin is the fact that a lot of the women here have a European look, but a bit "spicier". And I get it. Frankly, I see the old abuelas shuffling about the mall, and you can see the lack of melanin in how poorly they age.

For the most part, I don't really walk around with a race chip on my shoulder. By and large I tend to avoid large groups of black people, to be honest. Calling Cali the "Atlanta of Colombia" would turn me away more than anything, because I do not like Atlanta.

Cali was supposed to be part of this trip, and you and I have chatted about it in the past, but Meddy had more options for the specialists I needed to see, so I just spent the time here. Plus it was simpler logistically with the flights.

Next trip, I'll definitely head down there. And I'm 100% sure I'll have a great time, too, as I do anywhere. Regular, non-pro women are my jam. All day, every day. Even with my middling Spanish, I'm charming enough to get into plenty of panties.

The only question I have is whether there's areas similar to Laureles where I can just walk to whatever it is that I want. Walk-ability is a big deal for me when it comes to city living.[/QUOTE]I will leave the large groups of Black People argument alone because it is hard to define large groups. As far as medical a lot of small Island people come to get health care at Belanova care in Cali and Valle Del Lilli Hosptal is one of the best in Latin America. What I meant by the Atlanta of Colombia is Black People have money in Cali. The owner of my apartment is Black and she actually lives in Atlanta. As far as the walkability Cali is just like Medellin but smaller and the Valley is wider. You can walk in Laureles and parts of Provenza But try walking in Sabeneta or Itagui. Hell walk to El Tesor mall and report back.

I will say that you can easily walk to any mall in Cali with no problem because it's actually in the valley not in the hills. There is hilly parts of Cali but you would not want to go there because that's the hood outside of one upscale neighborhood. I have gone over navigating the city of Cali a million times but north or south you can find anything you want.

The only thing is you happened to end up in Medellin so you like it, I ended up in Cali and I like it. I've spent a lot of time in Medellin and kind of don't really like it. I can see why people would like it but as a 5 year resident of Colombia I find that in Medellin prices are insane, traffic is bad it's pretty hilly outside of Laureles. But outside of that it's clean and orderly. One other thing that a resident would know that a tourist wouldn't is that it floods more medellin in the rainy season. because of the runoff from their hills. I do applaud you on your Internet skills because the other problem is most of the cute chicks from Choco I saw were scooped up by the Half pats and sexpats in Medellin. So not using the apps it's kinda hard to meet Afro Colombianas organically.

Cali is the one place that has not one but two majority Black Strip clubs if that appeals to you; no BBls. One last pro to Cali is the food It´s more like West Indian food. Almost as good as Costena food not as bland as the fare in Medellin if you're eating local. I would advise you to give Cali a look see either you'll like it or run back to Meddy. I ran back the other way.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

To belabor the point as far as living I lived in Nairobi, Santo Domingo, Considered Medellin and choose Cali. Infrastructure is just as good as Medellin if not slightly better in regards to flooding Cheaper, More of the kind of girls I prefer. Jardin Plaza Mall is crawling with them. Less of the super transactional monger mentality than in Medellin. Less racial gatekeeping. . Cali runs neck and neck for one of the cheapest big cities in Colombia. Sex tourism or regular Tourism Prices have been jacked up for tourists especially in housing. I never heard of place not being guest friendly in Cali airbnb super hosts cannot afford to be that picky.

That's for living here as far as visiting I would say the crown goes to Nairobi with a close second runner up being Santo Domingo. Frankly there's no better place to meet women organically and fuck them. The only negative is finding a true big booty cutie that's not a fresh off the bus Haitian she knows she's a hot commodity and will charge accordingly.

I see Chris concurs with Afro Colombianas being more educated and better presenting than your average Dominicana Black or white again bigger economy better Human Development. To the casual visitor before the Parque crackdown Meddy was far superior for the traveling Monger because Lleras was a one stop shop for snatch even if more expensive. Still easier to navigate Fakebook for floozies that doesn't work as well in Cali. But also far far far more dating app deaths in Medellin.

If the crackdown holds then coming to Cali versus Medellin becomes a toss up. One thing is for certain It seems that the powers that be in Medellin would rather you visit other cities in Colombia because Medellin and to a certain extent Bogota are the only cities in Colombia where you can get hassled. You fly into CLO you could bring a rolling suitcase full of condoms for all they care.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Great reports man! I like your writing style. Especially your paragraphs.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086784]The last Tinder girl I met up with, I'll call Vee. She came by just yesterday. She 20, mulatto from Barranquilla but her mom moved back to Medellin when she was 2. She has gorgeous skin tone (like a cafe con leche), fit, and cute as a fucking button. Natural hair with a huge afro puff. Natural well-manicured nails. Natural full eye-lashes. I was flabbergasted.

Goes to the gym before her uni classes in the mornings, and does English classes in the evenings. We'd been chatting for a bit on and off, but she's either been busy, or I've been balls deep in someone else, or just busy with work and doctor's visits. Also, I initially thought she was P4 P like the rest, because she was so cute, so I wasn't really fussed.

But she kept suggesting we go get a drink or eat or something, so I finally relented and sent an Uber (20 k. She lives way the fuck out in Manrique). Where I'm staying in Laureles has maybe 40 restaurants in a 2-block radius. I'm spoiled for choice. So we went to a nice burger joint (150 k). The place is called Barrio Burger, with their burgers named after different barrios in the city. So I had the "Manrique" burger, because I'm whimsical like that.

Then we walked up the street and got her some ice cream (9 k) while we walked around the block and chatted. I had no plans to push for anything, plus Day had thoroughly drained my balls the day before so I wasn't as horned up. All of a sudden, she said "I need to use the bathroom". I sensed her game, so I said "Let's go to my place".

Took her back to the crib and we chat some more and then I pull her in and start making out. End up in my bed, she refused to let me eat her, so I just spent the time exploring that perfect 20 yo body. I will die on the hill that the leading cause of erectile dysfunction is fat, wrinkly old broads and their old pussies. Because I was at full salute.

She came off fairly inexperienced in bed. Definitely willing, and let me have my way with her. Raw. She came all over me within 5-10 minutes of us starting in mish. She was W-E-T, with what old guys would probably call a "Snapper". Had her ride on top, turned to spooning, then finished up doggy style, while pawing on that amazing gym-bubble.

I think she's just experimenting. She didn't give me the vibe of someone who has had a ton of sexual experience. She was always looking to me for what to do next, followed my lead the whole time, and as far as I can tell, thoroughly enjoyed it.

When I was done, I started laughing hysterically to myself, thinking about her being 20, and the day before I had Day the spinner who was 23. Together, they're still younger than me at 44, and my (soon-to-be-ex) wife who is 46. Not that she's old, nagging or wrinkled. But the world would tell older men that "these young girls only want you for your money". Which, first off, I'll gladly give it to them for access to fresh poon. And second, these old bitches want even MORE money.

But also thirdly, normie people simply don't understand just how many young girls really enjoy being with an older guy who can take her out, treat her well, be masculine and a leader, and also dig her guts out at the end of the night. Getting some money to do her nails or buy a cute dress is a bonus on top of that.

Which brings me to the second part of the title: How "free" is free pussy anyway?

After I sent her home (36 k. She lives in Manrique and nobody wanted to take the fare), I tallied all that I spent which I itemized above:

150 k for food; 56 k on Uber; 9 k for the icecream. Brings it to just over 200 k. Not bad at all.

I'm planning to see her tomorrow, and I told her I wanted her in a dress and heels. She says she has neither. So we ended up on an IG store, and I saw a tight short dress I wanted her to wear (130 k), and she saw a cute flowery dress (160 k) she likes that she plans to wear with her sneakers (fucking Gen Z latinas). Told her I'd get both, and she promised to borrow some heels from her girlfriend to wear for me. So this will be another 300 k. Peanuts, but the free-est pussy I'll get in Medellin certainly wasn't free at the end of the day.

Truth be told, I'd gladly pay triple.

So that wraps my Tinder experiences after 3 weeks in Meddy. I am done with all my appointments and tests, and got my prescriptions filled. I should be leaving on Monday, but the flight isn't booked yet.

Day wanted dick today but I declined, and she's going out of town. I am seeing Vee tomorrow, and Ro likely on Saturday. Also on Saturday, I might also spend the 500k and test out one of these paisa stunners clogging up my Tinder inbox. I've been chatting with some and I basically just say "300k, 2hrs, sexo natural". Most come back with 400k or 500.

Sunday I'm thinking I might split it between Vee and Ro to finish it all up. I could easily see myself staying another couple weeks because of how much I'm enjoying being here.

Great weather, everything I need in walking distance or 10 minutes in an Uber. I can't think of a single convenience that I cannot find here in Medellin. Plus, I've essentially built myself a pretty solid roster in that short period of time to where I could have great sex most nights of the week if I could keep up. Without even considering actual pros. Along with having great dates and conversations with some genuinely nice Colombian women. What more could a man actually want?

The guys who say Medellin is finished, or guys shouldn't come here, I kinda get it. It's not all out party central anymore. From what I've seen, that was an aberration. Nothing about the local culture suggests these are people who party like that, so I can understand why they're shutting it all down. But I also believe the sentiment overstates how important places like Parque Lleras are. You can make anywhere fun if you actually want to.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086784]Which brings me to the second part of the title: How "free" is free pussy anyway?[/QUOTE]You tell me. A couple of weeks ago in Thailand I had a friend come to town for the first time. In the club I met a chick that forced 2 drinks on me even though I only wanted water. We left the club together. She had on heels and my bike was parked far so I had to pay a motorbike taxi $1.75 to take us to my bike. We went to her Airbnb and fucked like rabbits. 2 days later she came over to my place and we fucked like rabbits then I dropped her off to her friends. We have never even had a meal together. We talk everyday. Was that free pussy? I am going to go out on a limb and say most people would say no because I have to spend money on my phone bill in order to talk to the girl plus the $1.75 I had to pay the motorbike taxi. I guess dick was not free to her either since she bought me 2 drinks in the club.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086798]It's one of those things that people tend to not want to talk about, but of course I've noticed it. The quiet part out loud is that the main appeal of Medellin is the fact that a lot of the women here have a European look, but a bit "spicier".[/QUOTE]Yeah, Trip has described women in Cali as having Cali curves. The stereotype is that white men like thin women and black men like women with curves. I even have a stripper tell me that she knew that she had to lose weight when only blacks and Hispanics were tipping her on stage.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3086841]As far as medical a lot of small Island people come to get health care at Belanova care in Cali and Valle Del Lilli Hosptal is one of the best in Latin America.[/QUOTE]LOL. So that explains why one in three people when I went for a walk in the morning in Cali were wearing hospital scrubs. And you are right in that it is comfortable walking there because it is flat and climate wise I prefer it. There have been times it has been really cold in Meddy and then there are the hills, and it always seems to be raining like balls when I am there. Barranquilla and Cartagena are fine at night but you have that equator heat that can sneak up on you during the day, and you can get horribly burned if you are not careful. Outside of the humidity, Cali's climate seemed to more just right than too hot or too cold.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3086841]Calling Cali the "Atlanta of Colombia" would turn me away more than anything, because I do not like Atlanta.[/QUOTE]Tyler Perry made Atlanta his home, and I went to one of his shows, and he was hilarious. Thing was it reminded me of downtown Atlanta as I think we were the only white people at his show.

I went to a downtown strip club in Atlanta and again, there were literally no white dancers there. So when I first went to Cartagena and later Cali, I expected Atlanta like black ratios, and it is not even close. Trip would know better, but if I had to guess, I think one in four or five women were black.

And yeah, the AfroColombian women I met were stunning, smart, and great in the sack. The ones I had though were mostly spinners and again, they are not as easy to find as the curvy ones, but in the kindness department, they were way nicer than the materialistic Paisa. The Meddy women reminded me of those in Miami in that they looked great and were put together but their materialism, greed, and snobby attitudes were a huge turn off.

With Colombia, if you are flying in and just want to fuck until your dick falls off on the cheap, then Bogota and Santa Fe are best. Meddy is set up so you can find the hottest women the easiest, but you are going to pay for it. You should not go to Cartagena for women. They are the side dish to the historical sites and beaches. I was intrigued to have seen what could have been made of the coffee cities, Pereira, Manizales, and Armenia, but each is less than half a million people, and I never made it there. IMO Bogota is the best city in which to find an attractive, smart, not lazy woman as a GF in the world especially if your time is at a premium. In no particular order, I would add Mexico City, Guadalajara, Buenos Aires, and Sao Paulo to that list.

If time was not at a premium, and I could dig down, it is a different list. For Colombia, every woman I was with in Cali and Barranquilla was a home run. It was just way harder to find the women. Asuncion, Paraguay and Santa Cruz, Bolivia were the same way. I liked the looks of the women in Barranquilla (lot of Shakira body type look alike there) but I liked the climate in Cali better and there was more to do there. So if you can handle the heat and like the spinners, Barranquilla wins. If you like a cooler climate and curves, Cali takes the prize as far as putting down roots and building a harem.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3086861]You tell me. A couple of weeks ago in Thailand I had a friend come to town for the first time. In the club I met a chick that forced 2 drinks on me even though I only wanted water. We left the club together. She had on heels and my bike was parked far so I had to pay a motorbike taxi $1.75 to take us to my bike. We went to her Airbnb and fucked like rabbits. 2 days later she came over to my place and we fucked like rabbits then I dropped her off to her friends. We have never even had a meal together. We talk everyday. Was that free pussy? I am going to go out on a limb and say most people would say no because I have to spend money on my phone bill in order to talk to the girl plus the $1.75 I had to pay the motorbike taxi. I guess dick was not free to her either since she bought me 2 drinks in the club.[/QUOTE]Most people would indeed say that was free pussy. Just not most mongers, since they repeat the mantra "there's no such thing as free pussy" to themselves over and over again.

[QUOTE=RacShack;3086739]Hi sorry for the off the wall question, but my upcoming trip to Argentina was unexpected (Messi last soccer game witina h Argentina. I've been before but many many years ago - are site here for some reason is completely down when it comes to this city, anyone know a site I can find out the recent seen their! Thanks in advance for anyone with any kind of help on this![/QUOTE]In Buenos Aires I have successfully used this site 2 years ago - [URL]https://www.bairesgirls.net/mujeres-escorts.htm[/URL]. And site with reviews https://www.foroescortsar.com/foros/

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086765]Today marks 3 weeks that I've been in the city.

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*Mileroticos*.

I've tested out a few pros off Mileroticos. All were great experiences. Mostly girls renting an apartment together and taking citas there. Nothing special, but sometimes I needed to empty my balls and didn't feel up for all the other bullshit. Anywhere from 80 k-200 k for 30 mins-1 HR depending on the girl.

One of them was a 19 yo Vennie flaquita. 100 k for 2 pops in an hour. Lord have mercy that poon should come with a warning label. I typically struggle for second pops, but she wrecked me twice within 35 or so minutes.

Another was a girl I saw in a porno and just had to have. I reported on this a while back. She was in a hotel in El Centro. Told her I wasn't going there at that hour so we went to a short time motel. Was pricey, but she basically fell in love. Got the first nut, and during the second I lost the condom in her. We had a laugh about it. She's been bugging me ever since to fuck again. We finally met up again last week at Suites 44 (also Avenida San Juan) - 80 k for 3 hrs. This time was BBFS. And I just couldn't last. 2 pops in under and hour and I was done. She said she needed to renew her phone service or something. I just reached in my pocket and gave her some money. She didn't even count it. As I'm typing this, my phone is ringing again as she's calling. She has a vlog on OnlyFans (OFTV) where she does travel content around Medellin. She's actually not terrible at it, and the production value is actually decent.

*Tinder*.

I've had quite a bit of fun off Tinder:

**18 yo Barranquillera*.

Had a college student during my first week. I asked for a pic of her cedula before we met just to be sure. Turned 18 in May. Took her to a short time motel in the afternoon for a romp. Among the freshest pieces of poon I've ever had the pleasure of eating. She came across as a bit unsure, maybe nervous, but not disinterested. Was very compliant and we had a good time all things considered. Took her to Hotel Ofix on Calle 44 (Avenida San Juan) in Laureles - 70 k for 4 hrs. Good spot for any of you looking for a safer place. Staff came to check on me before letting her leave.
[/QUOTE]Excellent reports, Chris! I'm glad you have been having such a great time in Medellin. How did you like your time in Bogota? Hope my info helped.

I've been enjoying reading about your encounters. As you and I and a few others on here know, Tinder is a gold mine in Medellin. As long as you practice a bit of precaution and feel out the right women, there's no reason to be paranoid and avoid it.

Would love to hear more about your encounter with that porn star, how you found her and how the details of that deal went.

I actually stayed at the Hotel Ofix for several days, once. It was bare bones, but comfortable enough and very convenient.

Stay safe and enjoy the rest of your time in Colombia!

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3086885]Most people would indeed say that was free pussy. Just not most mongers, since they repeat the mantra "there's no such thing as free pussy" to themselves over and over again.[/QUOTE]So true. A young, good-looking guy can absolutely get free pussy in the US, Colombia, or wherever. But I'm guessing that's a distant memory for most on here (including myself).

[QUOTE=Combo;3086921]So true. A young, good-looking guy can absolutely get free pussy in the US, Colombia, or wherever. But I'm guessing that's a distant memory for most on here (including myself).[/QUOTE]Yea, once we had a guy here argue that the time spent with a girl is actually a payment to her for sex as time in itself has value. But he never could answer if he deserved a refund for his bad breath and bad jokes if he never got laid. That while such only involves investment of your own time that may or may not yield results.

[QUOTE=Combo;3086921]So true. A young, good-looking guy can absolutely get free pussy in the US, Colombia, or wherever. But I'm guessing that's a distant memory for most on here (including myself).[/QUOTE]I think looks are overrated (I say this as a good-looking guy, though, so take it with a grain of salt), and I think that youth is VERY overrated. Youth has some advantages, in terms of energy, augmenting physical attractiveness, and being able to relate with women as a peer around the same age. But that's about it.

Women find the maturity and confidence of older men (as long as they are actually mature and confident, and not weak man-babies) to be very attractive. There is also a status that comes with being an older male, as well as greater wealth and security, which we all know many women find attractive; but older men can still get laid without paying for it, if they have and apply other qualities that turn women on. A lot of women even find the way that older men look to be sexually attractive; after all, silver foxes and DILFs are a thing. Women have always been attracted to older men for these reasons, especially in Latin America where women dating, sleeping with, and marrying men 10 and even 20 years older than them is incredibly common. I personally know Colombian men in their 50's and 60's who are married to some real hotties who are 15+ years younger than them.

ChrisD in one of his recent posts similarly pointed out how young women enjoy being with an older man who can lead them and show them a good time, if he has enough of a personality to not repulse them. And I gather that Mr Enternational isn't a young guy, and yet he claims to get lots of free pussy from women around the world.

Of course, "old" and "young" are relative terms. I see a lot of comments on this board and elsewhere from guys lamenting their lost youth and thinking that guys in their 20's are getting all the girls. Maybe that kind of defeatist attitude is coming more from the guys who are 70+ or even 80+, and not from those of us who are in our 40's and don't have difficulty attracting women half our age. If that's the case, then I get it.

And when it comes to looks, there are many women who don't value that as much in a man as many guys think. Some women prioritize looks, but many others are turned on by different qualities. There are plenty of good-looking guys who have trouble getting laid, because they don't have confidence and game (I was one of them all through high school, and only finally got my good looks to benefit me when I studied pickup techniques in college and applied them with lots of trial and error). Good looks won't get you over the finish line if you're too afraid to approach women, or are totally awkward when you do. Meanwhile, there are lots of less physically attractive guys who get more pussy than many good-looking guys, because they developed the right personalities to engage women's emotions to turn them on, and have enough balls to be sexually confident around women and not creep them out.

Plus, there are many ways a man can become more physically attractive besides having a naturally handsome face or smooth young skin. Regular exercise and a good diet can make both your body and face more attractive, and if you go hard enough with it, make your body damn right sexy. Dressing well, with good clothes, good shoes, a good watch, that goes a long way towards making you better looking. Grooming well with a good haircut or beard. Nice teeth. Good hygiene. Honestly, the bar for becoming more attractive than the average guy is set so low, because so many men are sloppy scrubs who smell bad. And that includes a lot of younger guys. If someone is a burn victim or has ALS, then obviously the deck is stacked against them; but that's not going to be most men.

I think there are five main things that attract women and get them into bed with you:

- Being a contextual Alpha (the biggest fish in a pond, most popular or high-status man within a group).

- Being able to engage women's emotions in ways that excite them (having game, a charming or seductive personality).

- Exuding confidence (being able to lead in a consistent and masculine way that controls the frame).

- Being physically attractive (especially if you have physical qualities that are a particular woman's "type".).

- Giving them money in transactional or indirect ways (duh).

The more of these qualities you can put to use, the better. But even having one of them can be enough, and being older can actually help you with a few of them. Lowering your standards can help too; your odds go up considerably if you're not only trying to fuck the hottest, thinnest, and youngest women.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3086929]I think looks are overrated (I say this as a good-looking guy, though, so take it with a grain of salt), and I think that youth is VERY overrated. Youth has some advantages, in terms of energy, augmenting physical attractiveness, and being able to relate with women as a peer around the same age. But that's about it.

Women find the maturity and confidence of older men (as long as they are actually mature and confident, and not weak man-babies) to be very attractive. There is also a status that comes with being an older male, as well as greater wealth and security, which we all know many women find attractive; but older men can still get laid without paying for it, if they have and apply other qualities that turn women on. A lot of women even find the way that older men look to be sexually attractive; after all, silver foxes and DILFs are a thing. Women have always been attracted to older men for these reasons, especially in Latin America where women dating, sleeping with, and marrying men 10 and even 20 years older than them is incredibly common. I personally know Colombian men in their 50's and 60's who are married to some real hotties who are 15+ years younger than them..[/QUOTE]This is all "on the money" so to speak. You're going to age well, and keep on getting pussy for the rest of your natural days. As long as you can keep getting it up LOL! They have something for that nowadays too.

If you're an older guy who can put himself together, and isn't a complete goofball, there's plenty of "free", young pussy out here for you to get as well.

I've been travelling for 5+ weeks now. Did 2 weeks in Santo Domingo, and 3 weeks here in Meddy. In that time, aside from of straight-up P4 P, I've fucked two 19-year olds (one turned 20 the week after I left DR). A 21 yo, two 23 yo and a 25 yo. Vee from my last report is 20; and Ro who just thoroughly emptied my balls and left an hour ago is 30.

I won't really even count the rest that are in their 30's since you could say they're no longer prime pussy.

A couple of these were "I need some financial help, but this is fun anyway". But the vast majority no money was asked for.

[QUOTE=Chico Bonito;3086929]Meanwhile, there are lots of less physically attractive guys who get more pussy than many good-looking guys, because they developed the right personalities to engage women's emotions to turn them on, and have enough balls to be sexually confident around women and not creep them out.[/QUOTE]

I am He. He is me. And my Spanish is good enough these days that I can use words to get these chicas' panties moist.

I'm not exactly some studly silver fox. I'm just above 300 lbs, but built like an out of shape linebacker for those into American football. I always get asked if I played back in the day. Stupidly broad shoulders and huge arms and legs (I used to cycle). So, I'm not a out and out slob with a huge gut, but I'm considerably bigger than all the chicks mess with (a few around 100-110 lbs, LOL). I am well groomed with my bald head and salt-and-pepper beard and wear clothes that fit well.

I am not as virile as I was even 3 years ago which, as I mentioned in a previous post, is part of why I'm here getting checked out. My specialist and I have worked out a treatment plan including medication to fix hormonal issues and drop weight, sorting out my poor sleep, so I can get energy to get back to the gym and back on my bike. And properly pound out these spinners.

All of this I share to make the point that female attraction is the most complex thing in this world. You'd be amazed at what get women excited.

They all love my greying beard. I'm witty (and now en español, tambien), charming, flirty, funny. As I got older, I learned how to move with confidence and a "I really don't give much of a fuck" attitude. Also a gentleman. I make the plans, I conduct proceedings, create and maintain the frame, and pay the tab. There's never a question about who is leading. But I treat them all with care and kindness, so they gladly come along for the ride.

The ones I attract definitely like that I'm just an overall much bigger dude. The spinners love when I pin them to the mattress with my size and push their insides to their esophagus. Or grab them around their throat while I'm pounding them from behind. They love that I throw them around the room and just have my way with them. And when we're done, they love how small I make them feel when we cuddle.

I'm not claiming I can just walk down the street and pull baddies left and right. But, I'm a 44 yo, 300 lb man that gets more 20 yo pussy than he can fucking handle. And every single one of them wants raw dick, and ongoing situationships too. I have a legit, solid roster of chicks under 23 who definitely turn heads when they put themselves together. All of them in great shape, some are gym rats, and all of them cute.

I love taking them out and showing them off, and they gladly cling on to Daddy's arm when we're out in public. I don't have nearly enough money for them to be with me just for the money, either. I treat them well, but not close to being a sugar daddy.

I fucking WISH I could have gotten this much 20 yo pussy when I was also 20. Youth truly is wasted on the young.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3086929]Honestly, the bar for becoming more attractive than the average guy is set so low, because so many men are sloppy scrubs who smell bad. And that includes a lot of younger guys.[/QUOTE]This cannot be said enough. Just taking a shower and using deodorant puts you ahead of like 20% of dudes. Be confident enough to have a conversation gets you ahead of another 30%. And if you're willing and able to spend a few bucks, that gets you ahead of another 40%.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito]...and being older can actually help you with a few of them. Lowering your standards can help too; your odds go up considerably if you're not only trying to fuck the hottest, thinnest, and youngest women.[/QUOTE]A few years ago, I used to only go for chubby chicks. I like a fat ass, so it wasn't all bad. But the first time I got a proper spinner in DR a few years ago, I was fucking hooked. Now, if she has even a little kangaroo pouch, I'm swiping left.

I won't ever get the baddest of the baddest without coming up off some serious cash. Which is fine. But I've found that there's a massive pool of really cute, sweet young women that I can do very well with and have been able to tap into in multiple countries.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086939]
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A couple of these were "I need some financial help, but this is fun anyway". But the vast majority no money was asked for.

And my Spanish is good enough these days that I can use words to get these chicas' panties moist.

I'm not exactly some studly silver fox. I'm just above 300 lbs, but built like an out of shape linebacker for those into American football. I always get asked if I played back in the day. Stupidly broad shoulders and huge arms and legs (I used to cycle). So, I'm not a out and out slob with a huge gut, but I'm considerably bigger than all the chicks mess with (a few around 100-110 lbs, LOL). I am well groomed with my bald head and salt-and-pepper beard and wear clothes that fit well.

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They all love my greying beard. I'm witty (and now en espaol, tambien), charming, flirty, funny. As I got older, I learned how to move with confidence and a "I really don't give much of a fuck" attitude. Also a gentleman. I make the plans, I conduct proceedings, create and maintain the frame, and pay the tab. There's never a question about who is leading. But I treat them all with care and kindness, so they gladly come along for the ride.

The ones I attract definitely like that I'm just an overall much bigger dude. The spinners love when I pin them to the mattress with my size and push their insides to their esophagus. Or grab them around their throat while I'm pounding them from behind. They love that I throw them around the room and just have my way with them. And when we're done, they love how small I make them feel when we cuddle.

I'm not claiming I can just walk down the street and pull baddies left and right. But, I'm a 44 yo, 300 lb man that gets more 20 yo pussy than he can fucking handle. And every single one of them wants raw dick, and ongoing situationships too. I have a legit, solid roster of chicks under 23 who definitely turn heads when they put themselves together. All of them in great shape, some are gym rats, and all of them cute.

I love taking them out and showing them off, and they gladly cling on to Daddy's arm when we're out in public. I don't have nearly enough money for them to be with me just for the money, either. I treat them well, but not close to being a sugar daddy.
[/QUOTE]It sounds like you've got 4 out of the 5 qualities that I listed going for you, so it's not surprising to me that you get to fuck lots of women through dating, including cute 20-somethings:

- You clearly have masculine Confidence.

- You say that you are Charming and can seduce women into sex with your words.

- You're not rich, but you have enough Money to take women out on dates and occasionally buy them gifts or give them some small financial help.

- Attractiveness: from the way you describe yourself, you may be overweight, bald, and greying (you didn't say anything about your face, so I'll just assume you're "average" there), but you clearly have a large and strong physicality to you that many women find attractive. Seems like your type are the cute young spinners, and the cute young spinners' type is a big teddy bear linebacker, LOL. Plus, you groom well and dress well.

And you obviously know these things already, so good for you for recognizing your strengths.

I think Gen Z looksmaxxing influencers have got many men thinking that they have to fit a particular mold for women to want to fuck them. But just remember, out in the world there are plenty of ugly guys getting laid. There are plenty of short guys getting laid. There are plenty of fat guys getting laid. There are plenty of old guys getting laid. There are plenty of broke guys getting laid. There might even be some ugly, short, fat, old, broke guys getting laid right now as I'm writing this.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3086949]you may be overweight, bald, and greying....[/QUOTE]For the record, I shave my head. I'm not actually bald, or even balding. I always had a low cut, now I just shave it every other day while I'm showering, and only go to the barber to keep my beard neat.

Going back to the topic of the decline of Medellin. I think the wild, drunken days are coming to an end. Change is the only constant, as they say. I honestly don't think it's a bad thing. I saw a post a few days back from a guy saying he speaks zero Spanish and wants to come here and party like he does in Thailand. Like, what the actual fuck is wrong with guys? Just a statistic waiting to happen.

It really is hard for a lot of men to reconcile that Colombia offers easy access to drugs, legal prostitution with plenty of attractive women willing to do something strange for some change; and the reality that there isn't a hookup culture, or that wild, crazy partying is really not the norm; not to mention the fact that there are very dangerous people who will take your property and your life with no remorse.

But, the women are beautiful enough that guys will continue to come here, no matter the cost, or the risk. Even with prices going up, it's still cheaper than where most of us live. I know the naysayers will say "there are plenty of better places to travel to", but that's only partly true. There's no perfect solution. You're just trading one thing for the next. That might be weather, access to certain conveniences, language barriers, quality / quantity / variety of women (not everyone likes Asian women as an example), and logistics. Thailand might be fun, but it takes a whole day to get there.

The only rival in the Americas for quantity of available attractive women is Brazil, but that's basically like flying to Europe. Me, personally, I can get here in 5 hrs from where I live, and only because I need a 2 HR layover in Panama or Santo Domingo (which I love, too). A guy living in Miami or Houston can sneak away to Medellin for a fun weekend, and be back at work on Monday morning like nothing happened. You could do this once a month and it wouldn't cost you more than $1000-$1500 a pop. There's lots of value in that.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086993]For the record, I shave my head. I'm not actually bald, or even balding. I always had a low cut, now I just shave it every other day while I'm showering, and only go to the barber to keep my beard neat.

But, the women are beautiful enough that guys will continue to come here, no matter the cost, or the risk. Even with prices going up, it's still cheaper than where most of us live. I know the naysayers will say "there are plenty of better places to travel to", but that's only partly true. There's no perfect solution. You're just trading one thing for the next. That might be weather, access to certain conveniences, language barriers, quality / quantity / variety of women (not everyone likes Asian women as an example), and logistics. Thailand might be fun, but it takes a whole day to get there.

The only rival in the Americas for quantity of available attractive women is Brazil, but that's basically like flying to Europe. Me, personally, I can get here in 5 hrs from where I live, and only because I need a 2 HR layover in Panama or Santo Domingo (which I love, too). A guy living in Miami or Houston can sneak away to Medellin for a fun weekend, and be back at work on Monday morning like nothing happened. You could do this once a month and it wouldn't cost you more than $1000-$1500 a pop. There's lots of value in that.[/QUOTE]If I lived with in driving distance of Miami or Orlando and could get cheap direct flights. Yes a Fri-Sunday trip "could" be justified, especially if your younger and super horned up. Personally, If I am flying to a destination, I need minimum 4 nights and an afternoon flight back. Any less and its hard to justify the cost and travel bullshit your going to have to deal with. Especially with airline ticket prices going through the roof. Round trip at a decent hour to many destinations now over a thousand bucks from northeast USA, and then you got to pay for parking and all the nickel and dimeing that goes with travel. I just got back from Panama, and flew through JFK and my god what a hassle-fuck getting through Manhattan and queens was and then JFK is now doing some pay wall bullshit with security where the standard security now goes through the basement and takes an extra 30-45 minutes just to get people to pay a fee to skip the line and go through normal security.

But yes, the women and cheap party does make up for it. Some really good strip joints, casinos, massage parlors in Northeast and it makes it even harder to justify the weekend getaway when you can stay local and still have a great weekend. I am in NJ, so we got party spots in NYC, Philly, Baltimore, DC, and if you really want to travel you could also haul ass to Boston, Montreal, or Pittsburgh.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3086993]The only rival in the Americas for quantity of available attractive women is Brazil, but that's basically like flying to Europe. Me, personally, I can get here in 5 hrs from where I live, and only because I need a 2 HR layover in Panama or Santo Domingo (which I love, too). A guy living in Miami or Houston can sneak away to Medellin for a fun weekend, and be back at work on Monday morning like nothing happened. You could do this once a month and it wouldn't cost you more than $1000-$1500 a pop. There's lots of value in that.[/QUOTE]I read a post once where a guy said he flew to Rio for a long weekend and was landing back in New York in the morning in time to go to work! Just crazy distance to travel to get some ass over such a short period of time. I guess he figured he had to do what he had to do in order to be who he wanted to be. International tricking!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3087171]I read a post once where a guy said he flew to Rio for a long weekend and was landing back in New York in the morning in time to go to work! Just crazy distance to travel to get some ass over such a short period of time. I guess he figured he had to do what he had to do in order to be who he wanted to be. International tricking![/QUOTE]I stay at home and rotate my stable of arrangement 4-5 sugar babies. $200 US to $300 for an hour, and not travel costs.

That is hard core. The time zone proximity is the only thing that makes it feasible and even so it's a close call. As I write this I'm remembering some posts here during the pandemic from guys who were seriously talking about crossing the Darien Gap to get here. These reminders to not take what we have for granted are I think good for us.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3087171]I read a post once where a guy said he flew to Rio for a long weekend and was landing back in New York in the morning in time to go to work! Just crazy distance to travel to get some ass over such a short period of time. I guess he figured he had to do what he had to do in order to be who he wanted to be. International tricking![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3082337]I tried the first six from my earlier trip research. There are so many casas, spas, clubs, but they move and close as they open new ones. If everything fails, try Pregagos, Mileroticos websites.

Sexy Amigas, Cra 45 the #57-67.

Zandaly, Cra. 47 #57 a-34.

Ellas Erotics,[URL]https://ellaserotic.com/[/URL] (they keep moving, went to one in Belen).

Aiffe, CL 57#43-27.

New Life, CL 56 #43-39.

Energy, Cra. 9 #10-55...[/QUOTE]Thanks to this guy and everyone else for the detailed reviews. Had to go through like 20 pages but this is good info. I'm here for a couple weeks I'll def send some reports back here. I plan to mostly stick to casas and spas. Maybe try out some independents from mileroticas if anything catches my eye. How do you guys find these casas other than here?

Also do any of these girls rim? Its not something I see in any reports.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3087241]I stay at home and rotate my stable of arrangement 4-5 sugar babies. $200 US to $300 for an hour, and not travel costs.[/QUOTE]Where in the USA can you get decent sugar babies for that price? That seems quite low. Assuming you're in the USA. If I could find that in the USA, I wouldn't travel either.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3087342]Where in the USA can you get decent sugar babies for that price? That seems quite low. Assuming you're in the USA. If I could find that in the USA, I wouldn't travel either.[/QUOTE]I will always travel, because that's just what I like to do. The travel came before the mongering. Then when I realized how much I could combine that with getting laid, that's when the globetrotting only got even better. For me, this has never been only about getting puss and ass. It's been just as much about seeing the world too. In fact, I go on all kinds of trips both foreign and domestic that are never mentioned here because they are totally non-mongering related.

As I was reading through the threads I saw some info like use Muse to bypass Ellas to save some booking fees. How do you find this info? Just by trying out casas and seeing the overlap?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3087345]I will always travel, because that's just what I like to do. The travel came before the mongering. Then when I realized how much I could combine that with getting laid, that's when the globetrotting only got even better. For me, this has never been only about getting puss and ass. It's been just as much about seeing the world too. In fact, I go on all kinds of trips both foreign and domestic that are never mentioned here because they are totally non-mongering related.[/QUOTE]It also helps if your retired. The travel bullshit wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to work the next day, especially when I am trying to recover from being hung over. Absolutely the best trips are a combination of travel experiences, new cultures, different food, and of course beautiful women. I really like the strip clubs of USA just because most of the girls speak English and its a nice change of pace not to have to work about having to catch a flight and get through customs the next day and make it to the office on time.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3087342]Where in the USA can you get decent sugar babies for that price? That seems quite low. Assuming you're in the USA. If I could find that in the USA, I wouldn't travel either.[/QUOTE]Have had one for 7-8 years. Slim, black, small tits, but decent. 2 kids. 34 now. Does not drive me crazy. From Seeking. 200.

Have had another for 8 years. White, 3 kids, average size, sweet personality. 34 now. From Seeking. 300.

Have one Cuban / french mix. 29 years old, one child. Personality is too much. I try to leave her alone, too much movement in bed. Have had her for about 2 years. 280 SDM website.

I have a couple, but not that often.

I had one age 37 but her belly was too fat, so I stopped after a month. $300 from SDM website.

There always are new talent locally. Have not been to MDE for a few years. I had one 20 years ago, married and annulment from her in a year, she got pregnant with a colombian guy before she got her visa. She still likes to travel with me, but she is not wife material. Age 46 now. Cute.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3087373] I really like the strip clubs of USA just because most of the girls speak English and its a nice change of pace not to have to work about having to catch a flight and get through customs the next day and make it to the office on time.[/QUOTE]Man so true. Just wish these strip clubs it was easier to smash at in NC. Atlanta, miami, Houston have some you can smash at. Wish I lived there.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3087373]It also helps if youre retired. The travel bullshit wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to work the next day, especially when I am trying to recover from being hung over. Absolutely the best trips are a combination of travel experiences, new cultures, different food, and of course beautiful women. I really like the strip clubs of USA just because most of the girls speak English and its a nice change of pace not to have to work about having to catch a flight and get through customs the next day and make it to the office on time.[/QUOTE]Yes, being retired helps. But also if you're fortunate enough to have a career where travel is an integral part of the job, and being "in the office" means being on the road or on a plane going somewhere. I've seen and mongered in some parts of the world I never would have but for my work taking me there, or very close by.

Thanks for the data points. Much appreciated. Seems like you tend to like them a bit older. I usually prefer them a bit younger without kids, which I think there is probably a premium for.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3087391]Have had one for 7-8 years. Slim, black, small tits, but decent. 2 kids. 34 now. Does not drive me crazy. From Seeking. 200.

Have had another for 8 years. White, 3 kids, average size, sweet personality. 34 now. From Seeking. 300.

Have one Cuban / french mix. 29 years old, one child. Personality is too much. I try to leave her alone, too much movement in bed. Have had her for about 2 years. 280 SDM website.

I have a couple, but not that often.

I had one age 37 but her belly was too fat, so I stopped after a month. $300 from SDM website.

There always are new talent locally. Have not been to MDE for a few years. I had one 20 years ago, married and annulment from her in a year, she got pregnant with a colombian guy before she got her visa. She still likes to travel with me, but she is not wife material. Age 46 now. Cute.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3086929]I think looks are overrated (I say this as a good-looking guy, though, so take it with a grain of salt), and I think that youth is VERY overrated. Youth has some advantages, in terms of energy, augmenting physical attractiveness, and being able to relate with women as a peer around the same age. But that's about it.

Women find the maturity and confidence of older men (as long as they are actually mature and confident, and not weak man-babies) to be very attractive. There is also a status that comes with being an older male, as well as greater wealth and security, which we all know many women find attractive; but older men can still get laid without paying for it, if they have and apply other qualities that turn women on. A lot of women even find the way that older men look to be sexually attractive; after all, silver foxes and DILFs are a thing. Women have always been attracted to older men for these reasons, especially in Latin America where women dating, sleeping with, and marrying men 10 and even 20 years older than them is incredibly common. I personally know Colombian men in their 50's and 60's who are married to some real hotties who are 15+ years younger than them.

ChrisD in one of his recent posts similarly pointed out how young women enjoy being with an older man who can lead them and show them a good time, if he has enough of a personality to not repulse them. And I gather that Mr Enternational isn't a young guy, and yet he claims to get lots of free pussy from women around the world...[/QUOTE]This is a really good post. I think the reason I like it the most is that unlike so many chest beaters on these forums, it is not some guy saying, "Well, what women really want is me. "

Like with men, there is a difference between a guy with whom women are looking for to have a quick fuck and guys who make good long term partners. Looks are really important for the quick fucks and less so for the long term partner.

Thing is that many times the best times I had were when a provider or sugar baby I liked invited a friend. Almost everything else you mention goes out the window if the friend says you are cool. There were women who banged me and often were better looking and better in bed than the primary girl. The funny thing is the friend knew nothing about me from me and we were barebacking seconds after she got to my place without any fear. For Colombia, I would not recommend this until you have a really good feeling or know a lot about the primary girl.

I have also never heard any guy say that the reason women like them is because they are fun. Sometimes you hear a woman say they like a man with a good sense of humor but you do not have to even have to have that if you can show women a great and fun time.

There have been objective studies which show what women want are what other women want or have. I ran into this when I let my gal's daughter bring a friend on our trips. The friends had a great time, but when the daughter invited a different friend, the original friends were incensed. The envy and jealousy were actually turned back as hatred towards the daughter. I just brought the friends along because for me traveling was THE reason I had ambition to work hard and make money, and I wanted the girls to see this too. I never dreamed it would turn into an issue but then again, I am not taking photos to post on Instagram showing off how I am having a great time. This is something a lot of women love to do.

I did not act on this as I am with my gal and the girls were under age but if you can create something of value such that the women want it so badly the desire turns into jealousy then you are golden, and it does not have to be an expensive thing like a vacation. It can be an invitation to a party or getting a woman entered a beauty contest ETC. Women will do anything to get that object of desire.

I was listening to Michael Sartain and what he noticed is the pickup artists never had any women, but the event promoters could pick up a phone and get dozens of beauties at a moment's notice if they had a fun event planned. The best part of that is the event planners are using other people's money to create something women desire and getting laid in the process.

The real issue I have with alphas are that most "alphas" are fake. What I mean by that is there was a time I was at a spa with a hottie with a great body and this younger dude says to her, "Hey baby, why are you with that old man? And she said, "I am with him by choice, and I like how he treats me. " What bugs me is these fake alphas do nothing but just show up, and deride my effort to win over a woman as simping. IMO simping is throwing excessive money at a woman who does not like you or won't fuck you. There is a difference between simping and doing what it takes to win over a woman. If I were a simp, this woman would not have defended me.

If this a guy were a real alpha, he would try to win her over. The fake alpha is saying I am so fucking great I do not need to compete. I call these guys Gaston types because they are literally repeating the words of Gaston, the villain in Beauty and the Beast, and carrying on his mannerisms. A real alpha is going to compete with me for a woman and kick my ass, and I will respect the hell out of him if he does that. And the "alphas" who do not want to compete? They are fucking losers. A real alpha performs; he does not make excuses.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3087502]Thanks for the data points. Much appreciated. Seems like you tend to like them a bit older. I usually prefer them a bit younger without kids, which I think there is probably a premium for.[/QUOTE]The younger ones tend to flake off more. If they have kids you can screw them during the daytime, as long as it fits their schedule to pickup or be home with the kids, and their days off. They stick around for years, as long as you do not insult them, or treat them badly.

I had a 22 year old, tall, slim, black. I really liked her. 300 a time. SDM website. But after 2 months she quit coming over.

Sometimes the best ones, younger ones, flake off. Something about you, or they find a boyfriend. You will never know because they do not respond to your texts. Maybe they find someone else who will give them more $$.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;3083602]Bella 190 K + 60 K oral natural.

The garden (Poblado location).

I've seen girls at the garden last year when they only had the spot in las Palmas. It was gorgeous spa like vibes with great views and beds. This location is ground floor with 2 levels, while not as nice they still make an effort to give big large beds and nice lighting. The reputation of the garden is to always have these thin Flaka Lolita types that are just starting the university. I read about Bella online in other forums and they said her face wasn't that pretty. They were wrong, she has a very angelic face but with nice full lips. I arrive and this 5 1 90 lb girl greets me. We hug, go into the room. I give her the $$ and she disappears for 5 min. It's a bit hot as I wait for her to come back and cut on the fan. She is wearing sexy black lingere that barely covers her perky A cups. She sits next to the bed with me and talk a bit. She wants to connect before we start to bang. We do some kissing in between getting to know each other. She's 18 and has been working there less than a month. She's trying to open a salon and uses the money to fund it. (Typical dream of a Prepago) she doesn't smoke or do anything besides socially drink. She says I'm the second foreigner and loves looking at my eyes. We start touching and kissing more, and get undresssed. I can see her puffy 18 yo tits and lick her nipples gently and she starts to shiver. She smells amazing and I make my way down. She has a perfect tiny pussy with light brown lips and pure pink inside. I really take my time licking and sucking her clit but make sure not to put my fingers inside. (Most girls don't want that) she really enjoys it and I do it more then I though we would. Then it's my turn, she teases my boxers and grabs my cock on the outside with her teeth. I take them off and she smiles at me as she slowly kisses around it..[/QUOTE]Went to try out Bella and BlueChange gave a very accurate report (And he's a much better writer). Only difference is she told me she doesn't want to do kissing because this is for work. Not sure why, maybe my Spanish wasn't good enough to form a connection, it is only at the conversational level. Probably not my looks, I'm in good shape and fairly good looking. Anyway sucked because that is a dealbreaker for me normally. I won't be repeating because of this, But other than that it was fun.

Did an hour session, started with BBJ then 69, into missionary and a bunch of other positions. She's very small so it was really easy to pick her up and use her however I wanted and she was enjoying that as well. Kept switching back into 69 between each position because she was very tasty. Finished her a few times before ultimately having her finish me off in 69. Laid there for like 5 minutes and talked a bit then took a shower and headed out.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3087553]The younger ones tend to flake off more. If they have kids you can screw them during the daytime, as long as it fits their schedule to pickup or be home with the kids, and their days off. They stick around for years, as long as you do not insult them, or treat them badly.

I had a 22 year old, tall, slim, black. I really liked her. 300 a time. SDM website. But after 2 months she quit coming over.

Sometimes the best ones, younger ones, flake off. Something about you, or they find a boyfriend. You will never know because they do not respond to your texts. Maybe they find someone else who will give them more $$.[/QUOTE]The women with kids will get a babysitter if you want a late night meet. It's not easy to earn decent money quickly. I always keep a few in my stable. I have not met any women in Medellin who get any help for their kids.

I think it also helps if they have job as they can't bug you all of the time but can use a cash infusion. The pay in Colombia is quite shitty!

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3087553] Maybe they find someone else who will give them more $$.[/QUOTE]It's ALWAYS about the $$if you are paying her well she will only leave you if there is a better deal out there. She isn't leaving you for a boyfriend,99% of them already have one.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3087391]Have had one for 7-8 years. Slim, black, small tits, but decent. 2 kids. 34 now. Does not drive me crazy. From Seeking. 200.

Have had another for 8 years. White, 3 kids, average size, sweet personality. 34 now. From Seeking. 300.

Have one Cuban / french mix. 29 years old, one child. Personality is too much. I try to leave her alone, too much movement in bed. Have had her for about 2 years. 280 SDM website.

I have a couple, but not that often.

I had one age 37 but her belly was too fat, so I stopped after a month. $300 from SDM website.

There always are new talent locally. Have not been to MDE for a few years. I had one 20 years ago, married and annulment from her in a year, she got pregnant with a colombian guy before she got her visa. She still likes to travel with me, but she is not wife material. Age 46 now. Cute.[/QUOTE]Those are some good prices. Mine is 22, fairly slim, tall, fit body, great boobs, no kids and reasonably pretty face. She has totally eliminated my desire to travel for sex. I get hard at the very start of foreplay with DFK. I pay more than 3 times what you do though.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3087599]I think it also helps if they have job as they can't bug you all of the time but can use a cash infusion. The pay in Colombia is quite shitty![/QUOTE]Every country in the world, there's women who work who could use some extra $$ Some of them in nice, air-conditioner jobs, others in retail or services. They could all use some extra money for bills, or their kids, or to buy makeup or get their nails done.

This is a vein that I take great pleasure in mining.

Which leads into wrapping my first trip to Colombia: I left Medellin on Monday. I had a tear or two in my eye. I had to leave at 2 am to get to the airport by 3 for my 5 am connecting flight to Panama.

I had Ro come over around 8-ish Sunday night. We went out for a quick bite, which turned into a 1 HR wait for food, but it was all good. I truly enjoy her company and it was nice to just nuzzle up in the restaurant sneaking kisses here and there. I had already packed, so we went back to my place and just spooned and cuddled for an hour or so. I'm big on touch, so as I've gotten older, I really am not into quickies, or short time when the objective is a release.

And she really indulges me just feeling on her toned body and kissing her all over. Lots of chicks either don't know how to enjoy this, are not used to it, or just want to get on with fucking. Ro just lets me get my fill. It helps that she always smells amazing, and her body is as smooth and blemish-free as ever. Slight loose skin around her tummy from a kid, but it's firm muscle underneath.

The intimacy I've had with her is unlike anything I've had in maybe 20 years. The sex is really good and she's tight as fuck, but it's not even the physical part that I love most. It just feels really good being in her presence. Like my spirit is where it needs to be. I'm cold-hearted as fuck, because this trip I've been fucking other bitches raw before and after her, and busting splendiferous nuts, too. I'm definitely not looking to get locked down with anyone, but I could easily see myself dating her, which my brain is struggling to process.

I doze off a bit here and there in between feeling her up, until we get into it. After all of this, it's Niagara falls between her legs. Went for some dinner at the why, then slid in raw as usual, all manner of positions. In doggy, I decided to tongue her O-ring for a bit, and that fucking set her off. Climbed back in and busted pretty quickly after.

By this point it was almost 1 am, so I needed to haul ass. Before she came over, she mentioned she was moving to a new place (rent is 2,000,000! But needed some money to help with some bills. 600 k. (ain't no such thing as free pussy as I say). After 2 weeks, multiple dates and multiple sex sessions, it was the first time she'd actually asked me for money. It was an easy yes.

Called her an Uber and bid her adios, then did a final sweep of the Airbnb before getting my own Uber to the airport. Was a nice roomy SUV so tons of space. I don't think I could drive in yet another fucking Chevy Spark on this trip, LOL. I typically ride in front, and whenever I ride in these little clown cars, I have to push the seat all the way back.

MDE early morning was a breeze. I grabbed some souvenirs and breakfast and within 15 mins of takeoff I was out like a light.

I'm back home and it's hotter than a motherfucker. Summer is officially ended as far as I know, but this El Nino or whatever the fuck makes it feel like we're living under Satan's ballsack.

I'm ready to book a flight back tomorrow. Thankfully, my doctor's follow-up is in December, so I won't have to wait too long.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3087673]Those are some good prices. Mine is 22, fairly slim, tall, fit body, great boobs, no kids and reasonably pretty face. She has totally eliminated my desire to travel for sex. I get hard at the very start of foreplay with DFK. I pay more than 3 times what you do though.[/QUOTE]So you're talking between $600 to $1000 usd. Yea, now I remember again why I travel for sex.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3087739]So you're talking between $600 to $1000 usd. Yea, now I remember again why I travel for sex.[/QUOTE]Most I'd pay in USA Would be $200. Anything over that just travel and enjoy it. I can't get anything decent worth $200 here that isn't worth a hassle so travelling every 6-10 weeks is perfect.

[QUOTE=BbMaybe;3087328] I plan to mostly stick to casas and spas. Maybe try out some independents from mileroticas if anything catches my eye. How do you guys find these casas other than here?[/QUOTE]Two things:

1. Mileroticos is not *just* independent chicas.

2. I think the concept of "casas" in Medellin is somewhat nebulous. It's not quite what you might think.

There are absolutely quite a number of organized, structured businesses that offer a place for girls to work and for guys to come and visit. But the vast majority are basically loose co-ops of girls (typically out of towners: Vennies, Caleñas, Costeñas, Barranquilleras) who rent a large apartment and take appointments. These you will have to have a nose to sniff out. Often times you only realize when you check the map location in the Mileroticos listings and see that multiple girls have the same location. I found 2 that were like this.

Additionally, on Mile, when you're checking a listing, you should always click on the "Perfiles mismo teléfono" (profiles with the same phone number) link. It will show all the ads under that phone number. Most of the time, it's just that one girl. Sometimes, you will notice that there are multiple girls listed. This would be a casa or "Casa de citas". Here's an example:

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/buscar-3046023763/[/URL]

Notice there's multiple girls listed under the same phone number? When you go there, there's no guarantee who will be available. They'll ask if you're there for someone in particular, or if you want the "presentacion". You might have found one on the site that you like, you can ask for her. The last one I went to, I did the presentacion and saw a different one that was even better than who I initially wanted, so I just went with her and had a great time.

To answer the question, though, here are some searches you can run on Mileroticos:

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-casa/[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-casa-de-citas/[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-spa/[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-chicas/[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-girls/[/URL]

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/buscar-grupo/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BbMaybe;3087328]
Also do any of these girls rim? Its not something I see in any reports.[/QUOTE]Since I'm not in the market, I can't answer this definitively. Older women are going to be the nastier of the bunch. They have to go the extra mile to compete. Had one give me a one-hour, two-pop BBFS+CIP session for 150 k total. Little head took over on that one.

Finally, I think Mileroticos and the other online sites are heavily slept on. Maybe because guys don't want to try anything new and just want to stick to where everyone else is going. There's definitely scams but likely a lot less than you would think. The girls I've met with have all been the person in the photos. The only issue is they'll never be as dolled up as they look in their ads. So, you take the rough with the smooth. And then there's the obvious photoshopping to some. One had more of a belly than her pics, but her face was still just as pretty. For 80 k you chalk it to the game.

I have requested that they wear something in particular for me and they've complied. Maybe if you get a repeat, you can ask for more to complete whatever fantasy you have.

Finally-finally, they're pretty much all just regular women who happen to have sex to make money. If you step away from your horniness, and have conversations with them, you'll truly be shocked by how boringly mundane it all is. One woman's phone kept ringing, and it was her niece calling to ask about what they were going to do on Saturday when she'd babysit.

Another was a Vennie who was looking forward to go back for Christmas to see her daughters. In a previous report, I talked about her, and how she has been basically hounding me for dick the whole time. She didn't even care about the money anymore, just wanted sex and intimacy. I'm usually not a hump and done guy, so she enjoyed getting caressed. 3-4 HR sessions, multiple pops. Will go to whatever location I choose. She gave me personal phone number after the second time we fucked. She unironically could have ended up on my roster if I lived in Medellin.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3087893]Two things:
Finally, I think Mileroticos and the other online sites are heavily slept on. Maybe because guys don't want to try anything new and just want to stick to where everyone else is going. There's definitely scams but likely a lot less than you would think. The girls I've met with have all been the person in the photos. The only issue is they'll never be as dolled up as they look in their ads. So, you take the rough with the smooth. And then there's the obvious photoshopping to some. One had more of a belly than her pics, but her face was still just as pretty. For 80 k you chalk it to the game.
[/QUOTE]I think its more this. The girls never look like their pictures. Its a crap shoot. And its not really the 80 k that bothers me its the time. You have to go there and check them out and waste time and effort.

When most of photos are photoshopped and AI filters now taking over, its getting ridiculous. Then there are others where they advertise girls that don't even work there just to get you there in hopes that you'll just take anyone since you are already there. Brazil has some pretty good review sites of girls. For Colombia they exist but are not nearly as comprehensive.

I have also given into the "Well, I'm here already, might as well do someone" mentality. What ends up happening is you end up screwing a bunch of girls that aren't really up to your standards. At least that's my experience. At my age, each nut is precious. Gotta make them count.

A few more things I wanted to share about my experiences on Mileroticos.

In total, I had 4 sessions on there, but I chatted to a lot, just to feel them out, get pricing, etc.

The main thing I wanted to share was logistics:

Most girls are either in El Centro, or Laureles.

I did happen upon a casa that was at the foot of the Poblado hills. I cannot remember the name now, but it's a more organized operation, with daily schedules of the girls, etc. They were 180 k for 30 minutes if memory serves. Girls were very attractive.

* EL Centro.

El Centro will almost certainly be independent girls. They will be staying in one of the many motel / hotels all over downtown. Typically, the hotel will require a 10 k-15 k fee to go upstairs to the girl's room. You'd be coordinating with your chica the entire time, so by the time you get there, the reception is typically expecting you. They might ask if you're going to "Room 206" or whatever. They'll take your ID downstairs. Just record the info, not actually hold on to it, and you're free to go up and get on with it.

Downstairs will often have a fridge with beverages, a table or shelves with snacks, along with toiletries and other essentials for sale (condoms, lube, oils, etc).

I actually never made it to El Centro, but I did session in a few hotels on Avenida San Juan in Laureles. That strip has a lot of motels that girls work out of, and will more than likely be a similar experience to what you'd run into in Centro.

By and large, Centro seemed to have older, fat, Vennies, Costenas. And overall a cheaper price point for chicas. Anywhere from 50 k-100 k for a 30 min. There are some who are more expensive, but if you want dirt cheap, it'll be in Centro.

* Laureles.

In Laureles, you're more likely going to find casas de citas. The reason for this is that hotels are more expensive. Also, there's lots of apartments for rent since it's more residential than Centro. Outside of Avenida San Juan and La 70, and areas surrounding it, there aren't as many love motels in Laureles. Most of them will be regular hotels (but this proved to be more fuzzy than I thought. More on this later, actually).

The casas will be as I described in my previous report. There were a few girls that I messaged that told me they had private apartments, but I never made it to any of those, so I can't really speak on the experience.

Overall, Laureles was slightly more pricey. I had as low as 80 k for 30 minutes and 100 k for 1 HR (these were outliers for the kind of girl I was looking for). Most were 150 k-250 k an hour.

** Communication.

You can text them straight off the site with a Whatsapp link. Be VERY careful, because Whatsapp will suspend your account if you are texting lots of them. I lost 2 burner numbers this way.

What has seemed to work for me is to save their number to your phone before you message them, so it doesn't seem like spam or you sending unwanted messages.

Most girls have a copy-paste menu ready to go so there's very little bullshit. The pros use Whatsapp Business so the menu gets posted as an autoresponder, even before she actually sees your message. Typically has the services offered and pricing and rough location right off the bat. Saves a lot of back and forth. I've attached a couple screenshots (including the popular Ellas Erotic) to show you what that will look like.

If you do decide to session, ask them to send the location, and they'll drop a Whatsapp pin, or give you the street address. This you can just plug into Uber and off you go.

I like to open it in Google Maps to survey the area first. This will give you a better idea of where you're going and what to expect. Especially in Laureles, it can be difficult to find the location because these aren't going to be commercial establishments with a massive sign. A couple times me and my Uber driver were going through looking at house numbers on front doors.

Ask the girl to send you a photo of the exterior. Many already have this with arrows pointing at where you need to go.

** Safety.

For my part, I only visited girls in the day time. I am more comfortable with the city now, so I'd consider night time citas depending on location. In and around Laureles is generally fine. Along Avenida San Juan is fine, too. It's a major, well-lit arterial, and the hotels have big signs so you can find them. You won't be wandering around searching. You'd get dropped off, walk in and that's that. Or on the way home, the Uber will show up at the door and you walk outside.

I've canceled a few citas in Centro because it got too late and I didn't want to venture. Next trip I'll try to go in the daytime to at least get my feet wet, since I'm less apprehensive about moving around now.

I did have a few girls (regular dates off Tinder) who lived in and around the Candelaria area. They were going home around 11 pm and 12 am and didn't seem overly fussed, so take that for what its worth.

That said, I had a few rules when I was going on a cita:

- I only bring my burner. It had my local SIM card installed, and I had the Uber and inDrive apps installed along with Rappi and Didi food. Nothing else really.

- I only bring enough cash for the cita plus any adicionales as I might want to indulge in. Usually that might mean an extra 100 k or 150 k.

- I don't bring my wallet. This means I won't have extra money, my credit cards or ID cards.

- I do bring a photocopy of my passport. During my first few days, I went to a papeleria and made 3 photocopies of the photo page of my passport along with the page that had my arrival immigration stamp. I then had the lady in the shop trim and laminate the photo page and stamp back to back. I never had an issue when anyone asked for ID. The immigration stamp was in the event I got interrogated by Migracion or Police, so I could show them I was here legally.

- I dress fairly unremarkably: plain dark t-shirt, dark chinos, sneakers. This was basically all I wore the entire 3 weeks, though it's not really out of the norm for me. No watches or jewellery.

I never felt unsafe at any point, but I also didn't end up in any unplanned or sketchy situations.

As for the girls themselves, I'd say lean towards the ones that seem about business. By that, I mean: they are staying in a hotel, they have a menu ready to go when you message, they'll drop a location pin when you ask. Also, that they have multiple ads on the site. Typically they'll optimize their ads for different keywords they think guys might be searching for.

Professional photos in a love motel is typically a good sign this is a girl that means business. I'm assuming there's guys who offer these services for girls who want to work. It's always the same look, in obvious love motels (the large beds, jacuzzis, themed rooms, etc) and lingerie with well done makeup and retouched photos. She won't look as gorgeous in person, but women hardly ever do.

Basically, you want to deal with professionals. Many of these girls have accounts on catadorcolombia or doncolombia (I forget the name) and respond to guys' reviews of them. They're not just renegades.

Hopefully the above helps someone who might stumble onto this in the future.

I've found out that there's a lot of hotels in Medellin that are very flexible when it comes to the kinds of services they offer.

I'm used to love motels / cabanas, which are short time rooms. However, a lot of the hotels you'll find in Meddy will offer long-term stays, along with 3-4 HR rates as well.

I found this out when I needed to take my Vennie to a spot for an overnight cita, so I decided to book a place on Avenida San Juan for the night on [URL]booking.com[/URL]. I actually booked for 2 nights as I wanted to repeat the next night.

While I was in the lobby, I saw a dude wander in off the street with his girl, pay for a room, and upstairs they went. I was like. "wait, what?

So, that's when I realized they had short time rates of 80 k, but you could book them normally on Expedia or [URL]Booking.com[/URL] like any other hotel. In my little brain, it was either one or the other, but this was Medellin.

With that, I started checking a few hotels, and sending them Whatsapp messages and asking about short term rates. And quite a few did.

So, again, if you boys feel uncomfortable bringing chicas back to your Airbnb, do some recon to find decent hotels that you could potentially use for a few hours.

Thank you ChrisD for your very informational posts. I have no desire to read Penthouse Forum type blow-by-blow accounts of guys' adventures (though nothing against guys who enjoy them) nor do I need explicit photos of the women. To me the best posts are those that concisely provide specific information about hotels, escorts, safety, food, transportation etc. Which ChrisD's recent posts do marvelously.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3087895] At my age, each nut is precious. Gotta make them count.[/QUOTE]I agree here. For my own purposes, I don't go to the online sites searching for perfect experiences. Sometimes they are very memorable, but mainly I'll wake up with a hard dick and think: "who should I blow this load in?" And within an hour or so of that thought, I've blown said load and on my way back home to get on with my day. This level of convenience and lack of fuss is what I like about places like this.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3087895] What ends up happening is you end up screwing a bunch of girls that aren't really up to your standards. [/QUOTE]

There's no solutions in life. Just one trade off after the next.

If you want to fuck exactly who you want, when you want, it'll definitely cost. I'm not saying this is a bad or good thing. Just saying we always have to make a trade.

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On my last day I was chatting to a chick I met on Tinder. She was fine-fine. Amazing body, like holy fucking shit. Surgically enhanced, but definitely also puts in lots of effort in the gym.

Asked her "cuanto?" and, without flinching, she hits back "800".

Told her she was fine and all, but nah. And she told me have a great day. She was very nice and polite, too, so I can't say anything bad about her.

Her 800 k was anywhere from 4-8 really good nuts depending on where I choose to deposit my seed.

That said, next trip, I'll blow some silly money on one of these broads just to say that I did.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3087924]

If you want to fuck exactly who you want, when you want, it'll definitely cost. I'm not saying this is a bad or good thing. Just saying we always have to make a trade.

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On my last day I was chatting to a chick I met on Tinder. She was fine-fine. Amazing body, like holy fucking shit. Surgically enhanced, but definitely also puts in lots of effort in the gym.

Asked her "cuanto?" and, without flinching, she hits back "800".

Told her she was fine and all, but nah. And she told me have a great day. She was very nice and polite, too, so I can't say anything bad about her.

Her 800 k was anywhere from 4-8 really good nuts depending on where I choose to deposit my seed.

That said, next trip, I'll blow some silly money on one of these broads just to say that I did.[/QUOTE]I've found that to be a super effective negotiating tactic. Ask their rate for what you're looking for and then say something just like you did "You're absolutely stunning but that is more than I was hoping to spend. Have a great night".

About 75% of the time they come back with a much more reasonable offer.

[QUOTE=CZ6Y48;3088005]I've found that to be a super effective negotiating tactic. Ask their rate for what you're looking for and then say something just like you did "You're absolutely stunning but that is more than I was hoping to spend. Have a great night".

About 75% of the time they come back with a much more reasonable offer.[/QUOTE]Oh I've had that happen for sure. Often times they start so far off, it's almost impossible to rein them in.

I've had a few come to me in the 500 k range. I say "2 hrs, sexo natural. 250 k + Uber". And some will say "Vale!" A few come back with 300,350 or 400.

Guys need to quit getting hung up on a particular girl and enjoy the abundance that's there.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3087739]So you're talking between $600 to $1000 usd. Yea, now I remember again why I travel for sex.[/QUOTE]Actually $1100. It works out to less than travelling abroad when you consider airfare, hotels, food, etc. Also, I've reached the stage where I don't need to bang every day.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3088046]Actually $1100. It works out to less than travelling abroad when you consider airfare, hotels, food, etc. Also, I've reached the stage where I don't need to bang every day.[/QUOTE]I also don't need it everyday. I might be out there during a trip everyday hustling, and if it happens it happens, and I'm grateful. And if it doesn't, for whatever reason, then it doesn't. And I'm not bothered. There's always tomorrow! Hell, on long trips I purposely take days off anyway just because I want to. Long ago I lost the need to have to try to "get some" every single day. Sometimes fucking is vastly overrated LOL!

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088041]Oh I've had that happen for sure. Often times they start so far off, it's almost impossible to rein them in.

I've had a few come to me in the 500 k range. I say "2 hrs, sexo natural. 250 k + Uber". And some will say "Vale!" A few come back with 300,350 or 400.

Guys need to quit getting hung up on a particular girl and enjoy the abundance that's there.[/QUOTE]That has generally been my experience with negotiating with Medellin chicas from Tinder as well. Offer them something lower, and maybe half will come back with a price between 350 and 450 (but including oral natural, not sexo natural. I don't usually ask for that, I just take it from the chicas who give it to me freely). Starting earlier this year, I have even been saying things like Mr. E. says, like "uff, tan caro", or "no bueno". That seems to help too.

On very rare occasions I will find one who will agree to as low as 300 or 250. But then there are others who set their starting price very high, and won't even bother negotiating. Some are nice about it, others will reply with something like "LOL, no gracias" and then delete all their messages in the chat. I do tend to go for some of the hottest chicas on there, though.

One chica who I would describe as only cute rather than hot was asking for 700k (she did look quite young and had braces, so maybe she gets a lot of men who are looking for that hitting her up). When I told her that was too expensive, she replied, "Why? It's only around $200 US dollars. That's practically nothing!"

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3088076]When I told her that was too expensive, she replied, "Why? It's only around $200 US dollars. That's practically nothing!"[/QUOTE]Guys have been going down to Meddy and throwing mad money around. The market is forever fucked. Any of these women under 25 are on social media, and are understanding the world a lot more. The days of arbitrage in just about any market are pretty much done.

Thankfully, I don't really go for the hottest chicks. I generally like a cute girl who is grounded, versus a very hot shark. My dick just doesn't get as hard, nor hard as often to properly enjoy that kind of splurge.

My little 20 yo, Vee, came and hung out with me the day before I left. We didn't have sex, but we had lunch at Unicentro, went and bought souvenirs, and just generally enjoyed the time. Saw her leering through the window of a bookstore, so I asked if she wanted to go in, and her eyes lit up. All she wanted was a cookbook for dessert recipes. Love how cute and chill she is.

This is a rare kind of chica on a dating app in Medellin, though. Maybe 1 in 20 based on my own experience. She's not Paisa, which is probably part of that.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3087924]IThat said, next trip, I'll blow some silly money on one of these broads just to say that I did.[/QUOTE]Like the guy that posted he met the girl of his dreams and paid 1 million pesos for the worst experience of his life.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088090]Guys have been going down to Meddy and throwing mad money around. The market is forever fucked. Any of these women under 25 are on social media, and are understanding the world a lot more. The days of arbitrage in just about any market are pretty much done.

Thankfully, I don't really go for the hottest chicks. I generally like a cute girl who is grounded, versus a very hot shark. My dick just doesn't get as hard, nor hard as often to properly enjoy that kind of splurge.

My little 20 yo, Vee, came and hung out with me the day before I left. We didn't have sex, but we had lunch at Unicentro, went and bought souvenirs, and just generally enjoyed the time. Saw her leering through the window of a bookstore, so I asked if she wanted to go in, and her eyes lit up. All she wanted was a cookbook for dessert recipes. Love how cute and chill she is.

This is a rare kind of chica on a dating app in Medellin, though. Maybe 1 in 20 based on my own experience. She's not Paisa, which is probably part of that.[/QUOTE]Going to have to disagree here. The majority of pricing is based on the local market. Theres no way all the weekend millionaires can fuck enough girls to really move the market. I'll bet you that same girl who asks for $200 usd from you fucks 10 of the local colombian for half that. Maybe less. Because there just aren't that enough men who are willing to come to Colombia to pay that much. There are better options.

Just because there exists the saudi princes who fly girls out and pay them 10 k, all the princes in the world couldn't fuck enough girls to really move the market. There's only so much rich dick to go around.

What you're seeing is the high level mark effect, since she got that a few times, that's what she's always going to start asking for. Did you try to bargain with her? All the girls in MDE are $200 usd hookers until rent is due.

Just talk to colombians and you'll get an idea of the real pricing.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088041]Guys need to quit getting hung up on a particular girl and enjoy the abundance that's there.[/QUOTE]This is the key. There are so many girls in medellin. Supply far outstrips demand. Most of the weekend millionaires do not realize this.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3088094]

Just talk to colombians and you'll get an idea of the real pricing.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, but if they know you're a foreigner, they are likely to start high and hope you don't know better. Most guys experienced in the hobby have a good idea what they should pay. But there are plenty of guys who don't know better that will pay a ridiculous asking price.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3088094]What you're seeing is the high level mark effect, since she got that a few times, that's what she's always going to start asking for. Did you try to bargain with her? All the girls in MDE are $200 usd hookers until rent is due.

Just talk to colombians and you'll get an idea of the real pricing.[/QUOTE]I hear you. I don't disagree. Gringo pricing is a real thing and that won't go away.

I have also learned to not underestimate how delulu females are. Someone paid her that in the past, so that's her price anchor for foreigners now. Whether she gets it regularly really isn't part of the equation. As far as she's concerned, she's worth $200 or $300.

I don't bargain for pussy. Either it's the price I ask for, or I move on to the next. I've had too many bad experiences with chicks who thought I was getting over on them for a cheap price.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088123]I hear you. I don't disagree. Gringo pricing is a real thing and that won't go away.[/QUOTE]This isn't gringo pricing. This is STUPID gringo pricing. Some idiot didn't know the market and paid an inflated price. Now the chica leads with the inflated price. It's not the price she'll accept; it's not the price she normally gets. She's just hoping that the next gringo she meets is an idiot like the one that paid the inflated price. But gringo pricing is the normal tax we gringos pay for just about everything in Colombia and we accept it to get along. We should never, ever, ever, accept the STUPID gringo price.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088047]I also don't need it everyday. I might be out there during a trip everyday hustling, and if it happens it happens, and I'm grateful. And if it doesn't, for whatever reason, then it doesn't. And I'm not bothered. There's always tomorrow! Hell, on long trips I purposely take days off anyway just because I want to. Long ago I lost the need to have to try to "get some" every single day. Sometimes fucking is vastly overrated LOL![/QUOTE]I agree with you gents. As I get older I don't need to pop daily either. But in some ways this makes a stay in MDE (and many other places in Latin America) a bit challenging because for me in MDE, once you've already seen Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, gone to Guatape, there's nothing else really in the city that interests me so risk of boredom sets in. Sure I can take walks, check out the food scene and all that but heck, I can do those things at home too, plus the food scene in Latin America (with Peru as the exception) isn't that great anyway. I've been finding that Latin America is a big contrast to Asia where even when I'm not mongering, there are tons of things in Asia that can keep me busy. So an extended stay in Asia for me is way easier than one in Latin America which is kind of unfortunate for me since like many of you, getting to Latin America is a lot easier than flying halfway around the world to Asia.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3088174]I agree with you gents. As I get older I don't need to pop daily either. But in some ways this makes a stay in MDE (and many other places in Latin America) a bit challenging because for me in MDE, once you've already seen Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, gone to Guatape, there's nothing else really in the city that interests me so risk of boredom sets in. Sure I can take walks, check out the food scene and all that but heck, I can do those things at home too, plus the food scene in Latin America (with Peru as the exception) isn't that great anyway. I've been finding that Latin America is a big contrast to Asia where even when I'm not mongering, there are tons of things in Asia that can keep me busy. So an extended stay in Asia for me is way easier than one in Latin America which is kind of unfortunate for me since like many of you, getting to Latin America is a lot easier than flying halfway around the world to Asia.[/QUOTE]This is why I'm glad Asian women mostly aren't my thing (have fucked some Asian stunners though yes). Asia is so far away that it would be torture! My principal playgrounds are Latin America and Europe, both far more accessible to a traveling gringo.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3088145]This isn't gringo pricing. This is STUPID gringo pricing. Some idiot didn't know the market and paid an inflated price. Now the chica leads with the inflated price. It's not the price she'll accept; it's not the price she normally gets. She's just hoping that the next gringo she meets is an idiot like the one that paid the inflated price. But gringo pricing is the normal tax we gringos pay for just about everything in Colombia and we accept it to get along. We should never, ever, ever, accept the STUPID gringo price.[/QUOTE]Why ask a chica what she wants, tell her what you always pay. If for no other reason than it tells her you are not a stupid gringo, problem solved.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088090]Guys have been going down to Meddy and throwing mad money around. The market is forever fucked. Any of these women under 25 are on social media, and are understanding the world a lot more. The days of arbitrage in just about any market are pretty much done.

Thankfully, I don't really go for the hottest chicks. I generally like a cute girl who is grounded, versus a very hot shark. My dick just doesn't get as hard, nor hard as often to properly enjoy that kind of splurge.

My little 20 yo, Vee, came and hung out with me the day before I left. We didn't have sex, but we had lunch at Unicentro, went and bought souvenirs, and just generally enjoyed the time. Saw her leering through the window of a bookstore, so I asked if she wanted to go in, and her eyes lit up. All she wanted was a cookbook for dessert recipes. Love how cute and chill she is.

This is a rare kind of chica on a dating app in Medellin, though. Maybe 1 in 20 based on my own experience. She's not Paisa, which is probably part of that.[/QUOTE]The market is only fucked if we let be fucked. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, don't ask these broads how much they charge tell them what you pay and walk if they don't agree. We gringos have the money in our pockets hence the power to control the pricing because Colombians sure don't pay it. I live in Manizales and the pricing is much different, I pay a lot less than Medellin for top shelf but I live here. I recently had conversations with two Colombians and they told me that I was paying double what I should be paying so do the math, same formula for Medellin with different numbers.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3088179]The market is only fucked if we let it be fucked. We gringos have the money in our pockets hence the power to control the pricing because Colombians sure don't pay it. I recently had conversations with two Colombians and they told me that I was paying double what I should be paying.[/QUOTE]That says to me that you aren't practicing what you preach. If you're a gringo paying double in Manizales, then you're contributing to that market getting fucked. Well, maybe not since it's a place that hasn't been infested with gringos (yet), and one guy won't fuck up an entire hoor market by himself by overpaying. But at the very least, you're getting yourself fucked in a way you don't want to be. Paying double! Now that you have this knowledge, what are you going to do about it? If you continue to pay double, you're the one getting fucked over.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3088174]I agree with you gents. As I get older I don't need to pop daily either. But in some ways this makes a stay in MDE (and many other places in Latin America) a bit challenging because for me in MDE, once you've already seen Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, gone to Guatape, there's nothing else really in the city that interests me so risk of boredom sets in. Sure I can take walks, check out the food scene and all that but heck, I can do those things at home too, plus the food scene in Latin America (with Peru as the exception) isn't that great anyway. I've been finding that Latin America is a big contrast to Asia where even when I'm not mongering, there are tons of things in Asia that can keep me busy. So an extended stay in Asia for me is way easier than one in Latin America which is kind of unfortunate for me since like many of you, getting to Latin America is a lot easier than flying halfway around the world to Asia.[/QUOTE]Kind of what I was saying before. Medellin isn't a great tourism spot. You can spend maybe a weekend there. Then you're kinda just stuck. Now they are trying to "catch" mongers in parque lleras. So stupid. I would never want to stay in Poblado if it weren't for the attraction of parque lleras. Too damn hilly. Not really walkable. I have a feeling all those airbnbs are going to suffer in the future.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088090]All she wanted was a cookbook for dessert recipes. Love how cute and chill she is.

This is a rare kind of chica on a dating app in Medellin, though. Maybe 1 in 20 based on my own experience. She's not Paisa, which is probably part of that.[/QUOTE]This is why I never really took to Medellin. I prefer cities like Barranquilla, Cali, and Bogota, where chicks like that are not rare at all Like you were saying, Medellin is shark infested.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3088193]Kind of what I was saying before. Medellin isn't a great tourism spot. You can spend maybe a weekend there. Then you're kinda just stuck.[/QUOTE]Yeah man 4 nights is the most I can do in meddy. 3 is even doable. After 4 though I am ready to go home.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3083872]Bruhh this has me laughing so hard haha. I be doing the same thing people watching while waiting for uber.

To find love motels in meddy just download the app called MotelNow on the app store and boom you'll be amazed at all the other love motels in the area.

Other love motels that are good.

Ibiza motel lounge.

Motel ibiza west.

Thematic suites.

Thematic luxury.

Eva suites.

Lov suites.

Hotel golden suites.

Motel El Palo, located right next to the San Ignacio Plaza is organized, clean.

El centro best love motel is HOTEL ROMANTIC SUITES. Themed rooms, jacuzzi, clean.

Unicorn Motel is in south meedy and has jacuzzi rooms too and clean, smells good, cabin-style room.

Kumoz suite 44 is good in laureles.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I had no idea this app was a thing. This would have saved me a headache on my trip last year. I was meeting with a new friend in Laureles and after meeting in a little restaurant we went to a nearby motel but they refused me service because I have an American passport. They told me no foreigners, that has never happened to me in Colombia before or anywhere in south or central America though it has happened in Japan a couple times. If I had this app I could have tried to find another one instead of having to drive all the way back to my airb&be in Poblado in the middle of traffic hour haha. I'm visiting in a few weeks so if I find myself in this situation again I will put this app to good use so thanks!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088184]That says to me that you aren't practicing what you preach. If you're a gringo paying double in Manizales, then you're contributing to that market getting fucked. Well, maybe not since it's a place that hasn't been infested with gringos (yet), and one guy won't fuck up an entire hoor market by himself by overpaying. But at the very least, you're getting yourself fucked in a way you don't want to be. Paying double! Now that you have this knowledge, what are you going to do about it? If you continue to pay double, you're the one getting fucked over.[/QUOTE]With the exception of bottom of the barrel chicas such as the trash in El Centro medellin for example, few to no gringos pay what the Colombians pay sir, including you. I would bet any amount of money that my chicas, my price and what I require of said chicas would win against anything any guy on here could put up. Stunners required to do BBFS, toys, anal, CIM and minimum two to three hour sessions for half what most gringos are paying in Medellin for an hour of mediocre sex. Manizales has the most universities per capital than any city in Latin America, hint, hint. FYI to all gringos, feel free to visit here because you will have little to no chance because if you don't live here you can't offer them anything to enhance their finances other than a one time thing, these are not full time prostitutes they are students or girls with full time jobs and university degrees. I can offer them six or eight dates a month which is equivalent to receiving a second month's salary mas o menos.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3088337]With the exception of bottom of the barrel chicas such as the trash in El Centro medellin for example, few to no gringos pay what the Colombians pay sir, including you. I would bet any amount of money that my chicas, my price and what I require of said chicas would win against anything any guy on here could put up. Stunners required to do BBFS, toys, anal, CIM and minimum two to three hour sessions for half what most gringos are paying in Medellin for an hour of mediocre sex. Manizales has the most universities per capital than any city in Latin America, hint, hint. FYI to all gringos, feel free to visit here because you will have little to no chance because if you don't live here you can't offer them anything to enhance their finances other than a one time thing, these are not full time prostitutes they are students or girls with full time jobs and university degrees. I can offer them six or eight dates a month which is equivalent to receiving a second month's salary mas o menos.[/QUOTE]A try to obfuscate the subject with a "non-answer" answer after going on and on about guys overpaying and fucking up the market. And yet, according to your own words, you're paying double what it should be per local Colombian sources. And it seems like you intend to keep on paying double. It would have been better to have kept that to yourself as it destroys your credibility on the matter.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3088337]I would bet any amount of money that my chicas, my price and what I require of said chicas would win against anything any guy on here could put up.[/QUOTE]I would hope so if you live there. If we all lived where you lived we all could be doing the same. You're not special my guy.

Asking what I assume will be called a dumb question. But it's been roughly a year since I've been to MDE, so I'm asking those with boots on the ground within the last month. (I've been frequenting Tijuana quite a bit this year and have found a good process that works well for me there. But paisas are my weakness!

Go ahead and flame me but I'm a guy that has had success at Gusto and other Lleras bars. Any fool can have success there with the right amount of cash. But before you judge me, I do NOT pay the prices quoted here. I have no problem saying no. I imagine the prices being quoted are paid by newbs. Gusto is a relatively safe place for a new gringo. And I have to believe they have either no negotiating skills or are uncomfortable negotiating. Regardless, it is their money and I do not care.

My question: how has the crackdown impacted the bars adjacent to the parque? From everything I read, it's all about the park itself and the overt behavior. Frankly, I do hope they clean it up some. Ship the passport bros back! But curious if the powers that be have any interest in the bars. Or if the quality and quantity has declined. (I can imagine a reality where a crackdown could actually favor the buyer when you consider supply and demand, but that's an overly simplistic view.).

I have a trip scheduled in less than 2 weeks and I can reroute to ole faithful (Tijuana). Thanks in advance.

Hey so I'm feeling a craving coming on for some good nuru massage from a really hot girl. Thinking back idk what it is but my best memories are at upscalebodyrub in nyc even though theres no full service. Looking at forum from past 2 years I compiled this list of places, was wondering if people can comment which have the hottest girls and most sensual massage.

I don't care about "real massage" quality (nor FS). More I'm looking for the sensual experience: teasing, ball playing, different creative positions, nuru, "tantra spiritual BS", moaning etc.

And girl wise I want the hottest done up types like what you see at la isla.

Thanks for any input anyones got!

Bendito.

[URL]https://benditomasaje.com/servicios/[/URL]

Happymasajes.

[URL]https://happymasajes.com/[/URL]

Oasis.

[URL]https://oasismassein.com/[/URL]

Mandare.

[URL]https://www.masajesmandalay.com/[/URL]

Thao spa.

[URL]https://thaospa.com.co/[/URL]#masajes.

Samadi spa*.

[URL]https://www.samadhispamedellin.com/en[/URL]

Esperanza spa.

[URL]https://esperanzamarinspa.com/es[/URL]

Atenea Club.

[URL]https://clubateneavip.com/en/diosas/isabela/[/URL]

Des.

[URL]https://deseroticmassage.com/masajistas/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ray42;3088403]Thanks for any input anyones got!

Bendito.

[URL]https://benditomasaje.com/servicios/[/URL]


Atenea Club.

[URL]https://clubateneavip.com/en/diosas/isabela/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]These 2 are the best.

[QUOTE=Ray42;3088403]Hey so I'm feeling a craving coming on for some good nuru massage from a really hot girl. Thinking back idk what it is but my best memories are at upscalebodyrub in nyc even though theres no full service. Looking at forum from past 2 years I compiled this list of places, was wondering if people can comment which have the hottest girls and most sensual massage.............

I don't care about "real massage" quality (nor FS). More I'm looking for the sensual experience: teasing, ball playing, different creative positions, nuru, "tantra spiritual BS", moaning etc.

And girl wise I want the hottest done up types like what you see at la isla. [/QUOTE]

Of the nine spas you list, I have some experience (albeit limited) with the first four of them: Bendito, Happy, Oasis, and Mandare.

To answer your two questions about the quality experienced at each:

Mandare definitely had the best looking chicas (and, as I recall) the largest selection as well. But not dolled up to La Isla standards. (I'm back in the US drawing on my memories from my annual, extended visits to Medellin each winter and summer.)

In respect to the sensuality of the service, I think that has more to do with the individual masajista, than with the establishment itself.

I don't think you can get a Nuru massage from any spa in Medellin that would compare to what's offered in the Far East or a good Asian Massage Parlor in the US. But Mandare does try to create a sensual atmosphere, and they were unique among the four in utilizing heated oil for the body to body portion of the massage.

My memory is dim, but I think I have received super sensuous, creative, differently styled happy endings at each of those four spas.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;3088379]Asking what I assume will be called a dumb question. But it's been roughly a year since I've been to MDE, so I'm asking those with boots on the ground within the last month. (I've been frequenting Tijuana quite a bit this year and have found a good process that works well for me there. But paisas are my weakness!

Go ahead and flame me but I'm a guy that has had success at Gusto and other Lleras bars. Any fool can have success there with the right amount of cash. But before you judge me, I do NOT pay the prices quoted here. I have no problem saying no. I imagine the prices being quoted are paid by newbs. Gusto is a relatively safe place for a new gringo. And I have to believe they have either no negotiating skills or are uncomfortable negotiating. Regardless, it is their money and I do not care.

My question: how has the crackdown impacted the bars adjacent to the parque? From everything I read, it's all about the park itself and the overt behavior. Frankly, I do hope they clean it up some. Ship the passport bros back! But curious if the powers that be have any interest in the bars. Or if the quality and quantity has declined. (I can imagine a reality where a crackdown could actually favor the buyer when you consider supply and demand, but that's an overly simplistic view.).

I have a trip scheduled in less than 2 weeks and I can reroute to ole faithful (Tijuana). Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]How much do you pay at Gustos?

[QUOTE=Ray42;3088403]Bendito.

Happymasajes.

Oasis.

Mandare.

Thao spa.

Samadi spa*.

Esperanza spa.

Atenea Club..[/QUOTE]I have experience with most of these. Like you, these experiences typically end up being the highlights of my travels. And like you, I crave sensuality. Where I differ: I will give a little on looks. I'd gladly settle for a 7 or 8 if it means added sensuality or connection. So, obviously, much of this is subjective.

Most sensual: Happy. And it's not even close in my book.

Most authentic experience: Bendito. They may be good actresses but they seem to really like to deliver an experience.

Best looking: Mandalay. Looks are always very subjective but they always seem to have a couple that I really appreciate, looks wise.

Thao: I've only gone a couple times. Not a bad experience but definitely feels like a 2nd tier.

Atenea: not my favorite. Years ago, a favorite of mine moved there. But other than her, I've left that place thinking "meh". Not horrible but I can't recommend.

For some reason, I put Des and Esperanza as identical in my mind. I'd say maybe a step above Thao.

FWIW: These places are not FS, generally speaking. Depending on the masajista and comfort level, that can vary. But I would say 9 times out of 10, it's HJ only. That's fine with me. But I mention it because I would be disappointed if I had hopes of anything more. But I would definitely recommend Happy, Mandalay, and Bendito (and in that order) over the others.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3088428]How much do you pay at Gustos?[/QUOTE]It varies, of course. I do not recall ever paying over 600 k. (And that was when the USD was much more favorable.) I do recall going to 600 k once for a 10 in my book. This was quite honestly one of the most beautiful girls I ever saw, so felt good with that price point. So definitely much more than a Centro bargain. But, I would also say that while I'm not exceptionally picky, I do "require" more of a GFE experience. That means different things to different people, but it's definitely not a 1 hour sprint.

What most reports say is those girls look for 200 USD for an hour. And no doubt, that's the typical quote I hear. But I can generally sense how flexible they are. I'm going to invest 0 minutes in negotiations if they don't strike me as flexible.

Long answer, and it has been quite a while since I've been there. But I'd say, usually, I've paid up to 500 k ($125 USD) for a few hours of GFE back at my place. DFK, BBJ, etc. And almost always includes a bit of partying too.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3088337]With the exception of bottom of the barrel chicas such as the trash in El Centro medellin for example, few to no gringos pay what the Colombians pay sir, including you. I would bet any amount of money that my chicas, my price and what I require of said chicas would win against anything any guy on here could put up. Stunners required to do BBFS, toys, anal, CIM and minimum two to three hour sessions for half what most gringos are paying in Medellin for an hour of mediocre sex. Manizales has the most universities per capital than any city in Latin America, hint, hint. FYI to all gringos, feel free to visit here because you will have little to no chance because if you don't live here you can't offer them anything to enhance their finances other than a one time thing, these are not full time prostitutes they are students or girls with full time jobs and university degrees. I can offer them six or eight dates a month which is equivalent to receiving a second month's salary mas o menos.[/QUOTE]I agree with your overall assessment. I've been to Manizales a couple of times due to its vibrant university scene, but overall it wasn't for me. This was pre-Covid. I stayed around 3-4 days each time. So my experience is very dated, and I'm a party animal and I hung out around the El Cable neighborhood. I can say for a fact there were lots of naturally looking beautiful young ladies all over the place.

Being a Chino in my 30's back then, speaking fluent Spanish, and having sufficient experience with the Paisa culture, I thought I had it in the bag. But nothing could be further from the truth. It humbled me and I was better for it. I didn't do any dating apps or online sites back then and did some cold approaches. Fortunately, I did meet a cute chica from Villacencio at a freelance bar that gave me a reason to stay hehe. Anyways, Manizales definitely not going to be overrun by gringos anymore than Pasto. And I'm glad for that.

On a side note, I'll take up Manizales911's challenge on the quality, service, price, and time of the chicas we get. It's fair banter. I'll admit, I shoulda been drugged by now after more than 10 years partying up in MDE. BTW, my first firsthand knowledge of knowing someone being scoped was back in 2014 when I met a fellow young and energetic housemate at a Laureles apartment. This escopalomine drug is nothing new like cocaine, it's just MDE blew up fast and quick and too many passport bros being caught off guard and thinking it's all easy mode. It's exactly the opposite.

I stay in Bello and yes it's dangerous out here hehe. I get cute and fresh 18-21 yr olds for 200 mil to hang, party, and fuck for hours because I have the drink, the pink, and everything else. Having my own place helps. GFE and BBFS are a must for me, my rotation knows and the new chicas usually comply. Those that don't, I respectfully say we had a great time and here's 100 mil for your time. Half the time they'll take the 100 mil, no love lost and the other half will go all the way with me. I'll take those odds. Don't do what I do if you're a newbie and even if you're not, still don't. When girls say, "Can I invite a friend?" you usually say no, I say hell yes. I say you better scope me before I scope you hehe. Cheers 👍.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;3088379]

Go ahead and flame me but I'm a guy that has had success at Gusto and other Lleras bars. Any fool can have success there with the right amount of cash. But before you judge me, I do NOT pay the prices quoted here. I have no problem saying no. I imagine the prices being quoted are paid by newbs. Gusto is a relatively safe place for a new gringo. And I have to believe they have either no negotiating skills or are uncomfortable negotiating. Regardless, it is their money and I do not care.

My question: how has the crackdown impacted the bars adjacent to the parque? From everything I read, it's all about the park itself and the overt behavior. Frankly, I do hope they clean it up some. Ship the passport bros back! But curious if the powers that be have any interest in the bars. Or if the quality and quantity has declined. (I can imagine a reality where a crackdown could actually favor the buyer when you consider supply and demand, but that's an overly simplistic view.).
e.[/QUOTE]Yo I'm going weekend of October 22 and looking for people to hang with. Ill be solo.

You talk just like me. I love the club gusto scene compared to the street pick ups. I always jsut gather numbersthroughout the night then make my own dates later.

I also plan for an isla night.

Last time I went was around 2 years ago and prices then varied. Some girls were cool with a 150-200 k for a pop but some other experienced girls only did toda la noche for 300 usd. The crazy thing is some of the 6/10 looking girls were cool with you saying no to the toda la noche and would be fine leaving solo and with no business then going cheaper. Crazy to me.

But seriously I'm looking for someone to hang witth Oct. 22 weekend if anyone else is around then.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;3088430]
FWIW: These places are not FS, generally speaking. Depending on the masajista and comfort level, that can vary. But I would say 9 times out of 10, it's HJ only. That's fine with me. But I mention it because I would be disappointed if I had hopes of anything more.[/QUOTE]You can smash for an additional 400 k cop but price range is different for each location but average is about 400 k cop extra.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3088339]I would hope so if you live there. If we all lived where you lived we all could be doing the same. You're not special my guy.[/QUOTE]I never said or implied that I was special. I am one lucky motherfucker though.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088338]A try to obfuscate the subject with a "non-answer" answer after going on and on about guys overpaying and fucking up the market. And yet, according to your own words, you're paying double what it should be per local Colombian sources. And it seems like you intend to keep on paying double. It would have been better to have kept that to yourself as it destroys your credibility on the matter.[/QUOTE]I could give one fuck about my credibility on a working girl forum.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3088514]I could give one fuck about my credibility on a working girl forum.[/QUOTE]That's good then since by openly admitting to paying double what the price should be after lecturing others about overpaying, you don't have any.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3088513]I never said or implied that I was special. I am one lucky motherfucker though.[/QUOTE]It was implied but I am lucky too go us.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3088507]You can smash for an additional 400 k cop but price range is different for each location but average is about 400 k cop extra.[/QUOTE]Not trying to argue with you. But I would say it's definitely a YMMV situation. Several important points:

1 - would say that 400 k still gives you slim to no chance at a couple of these places. Without disclosing too much, one of my ATFs worked at one of these places and has since ventured out on her own and started her own casa. Her former employer strictly forbid anything beyond he. I know her fairly well outside of the hobby and, though you never know, I do trust her. Most girls honored those rules.

2 - Some of those places will certainly bite at 400 k. But again, YMMV. I've had BBFS for no extra tip. And CFS after she asked for an undisclosed amount of an "extra tip".

3 - Why I'd advise NO ONE to expect anything beyond a sensual he: avoid disappointment. When you go to these places that have rules forbidding it, you are setting yourself up for disappointment and you might not appreciate what is otherwise a great experience. I'm speaking from experience. When I go in, I am expecting an above average massage, a very sensual cuerpo a cuerpo, and a manual finish. I expect nothing more. If something transpires, that's gravy. But for me, hoping or expecting for more ruins the basic, agreed upon service.

4 - Lastly, at 400 K, that's an overpay, in my opinion. Most of these "nuru" places are already charging far more than other MDE casas. Quality is definitely higher, but a 400 K tip puts the total bill over $200 USD. I do not mind paying for quality but that's a steep price by MDE standards. Would I pay that? Maybe, if every star aligned. But I would not go in planning on it.

I don't think you need to make prior arrangements to find wing men. New Life, Parque Lleras, La Isla & Fase II are all places where you would have to go out of your way to avoid guys looking for running buddies.

[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;3088504]Yo I'm going weekend of October 22 and looking for people to hang with. Ill be solo.

You talk just like me. I love the club gusto scene compared to the street pick ups. I always jsut gather numbersthroughout the night then make my own dates later.

I also plan for an isla night.

Last time I went was around 2 years ago and prices then varied. Some girls were cool with a 150-200 k for a pop but some other experienced girls only did toda la noche for 300 usd. The crazy thing is some of the 6/10 looking girls were cool with you saying no to the toda la noche and would be fine leaving solo and with no business then going cheaper. Crazy to me.

But seriously I'm looking for someone to hang witth Oct. 22 weekend if anyone else is around then.[/QUOTE]

I feel like I've read this same post several times the past few months.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;3088447]I agree with your overall assessment. I've been to Manizales a couple of times due to its vibrant university scene, but overall it wasn't for me. This was pre-Covid. I stayed around 3-4 days each time. So my experience is very dated, and I'm a party animal and I hung out around the El Cable neighborhood. I can say for a fact there were lots of naturally looking beautiful young ladies all over the place.

Being a Chino in my 30's back then, speaking fluent Spanish, and having sufficient experience with the Paisa culture, I thought I had it in the bag. But nothing could be further from the truth. It humbled me and I was better for it. I didn't do any dating apps or online sites back then and did some cold approaches. Fortunately, I did meet a cute chica from Villacencio at a freelance bar that gave me a reason to stay hehe. Anyways, Manizales definitely not going to be overrun by gringos anymore than Pasto. And I'm glad for that.

On a side note, I'll take up Manizales911's challenge on the quality, service, price, and time of the chicas we get. It's fair banter. I'll admit, I shoulda been drugged by now after more than 10 years partying up in MDE. BTW, my first firsthand knowledge of knowing someone being scoped was back in 2014 when I met a fellow young and energetic housemate at a Laureles apartment. This escopalomine drug is nothing new like cocaine, it's just MDE blew up fast and quick and too many passport bros being caught off guard and thinking it's all easy mode. It's exactly the opposite..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;3088379]Asking what I assume will be called a dumb question. But it's been roughly a year since I've been to MDE, so I'm asking those with boots on the ground within the last month. (I've been frequenting Tijuana quite a bit this year and have found a good process that works well for me there. But paisas are my weakness!

Go ahead and flame me but I'm a guy that has had success at Gusto and other Lleras bars. Any fool can have success there with the right amount of cash. But before you judge me, I do NOT pay the prices quoted here. I have no problem saying no. I imagine the prices being quoted are paid by newbs. Gusto is a relatively safe place for a new gringo. And I have to believe they have either no negotiating skills or are uncomfortable negotiating. Regardless, it is their money and I do not care..[/QUOTE]It hasn't affected the bars at all. I just left and will be going back for Halloween. Gustos is still packed with women, and they're starving for business. The street is absolutely crazy, with about a 50-to-1 ratio. Its Definitely a buyer's market.

But do yourself a favor: DON'T LINGER IN THE F-ING PARK. Nothing else has changed, but they will make an example of you for engaging with women in the park. I don't get why that's so damn hard for some of you cheap asses to understand. Move along and actually go into the club.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3088575]I feel like I've read this same post several times the past few months.[/QUOTE]He pretty much makes the same post every few months. LOL nothing new.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;3088571]
4 - Lastly, at 400 K, that's an overpay, in my opinion. Most of these "nuru" places are already charging far more than other MDE casas. Quality is definitely higher, but a 400 K tip puts the total bill over $200 USD. I do not mind paying for quality but that's a steep price by MDE standards. Would I pay that? Maybe, if every star aligned. But I would not go in planning on it.[/QUOTE]I agree it is a waste to pay for FS in these massage spots as it is a rip off. I don't go to these massage spots just due to the cost. I travel to smash, not to get a massage whether it is good or bad, and def not just paying for a he.

Was in Medellin for 4 days in September.

Much thanks to all the tips and info on the forum.
Big shot out to Junefly

Mainly checked out the Casas.

Visited New Life, Zandaly and few others.

Favorite was Zandaly. Found an 8 and a 7 for a threesome.

Good prices. Just paid each for an hour at thr published rate.

I should have just gone with one though because one had a great vibe. I wanted to come back and repeat with just her but didn't work out.

Did check out Ella's erotica and I must say the younger 18-19 year olds are just cute and beautiful (7-9).

But service was horrible.

I actually left halfway through because she was complaining etc.

Beautiful girl but couldn't nut.

Net net. Medellin was fun but I won't repeat. Rather will explore other cities / south am countries.

Food was good, weather nice, exchange wasn’t and things were costlier in Medellin based on info
I got from a friend in Cali.

And I must admit that some of the paisas are just stunning with their euro features.
However, thinking about Paraguay. Asunción.


Stay safe and have fun out there boys!

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3088827]Was in Medellin for 4 days in September.

Much thanks to all the tips and info on the forum.
Big shot out to Junefly

Mainly checked out the Casas.

Visited New Life, Zandaly and few others.

Favorite was Zandaly. Found an 8 and a 7 for a threesome.

Good prices. Just paid each for an hour at thr published rate.

I should have just gone with one though because one had a great vibe. I wanted to come back and repeat with just her but didn't work out.[/QUOTE]You checked out the wrong casas. I'd go back and do the casas in Laureles. But yeah Medellin is a lot less enjoyable with the exchange rate the way it is.

Not new to mongering but to Columbia. Always stayed in hotels where chicas congregate and take them to my room in places like San Jose, Joco, Sosua etc. , What is a safer way to monger in Columbia for a first timer with minimal spanish. Where to stay and how to find chicas without spending too much time online or risking roaming around the streets. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3088839]You checked out the wrong casas. I'd go back and do the casas in Laureles. But yeah Medellin is a lot less enjoyable with the exchange rate the way it is.[/QUOTE]Facts on the exchange rate. Which casas in laureles do you like? There's many in medellin but the ones he hit are good too but yes laureles is the best.

[QUOTE=WGraves;3088882]Not new to mongering but to Columbia. Always stayed in hotels where chicas congregate and take them to my room in places like San Jose, Joco, Sosua etc. , What is a safer way to monger in Columbia for a first timer with minimal spanish. Where to stay and how to find chicas without spending too much time online or risking roaming around the streets. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Since the mansion is no longer a thing in medellin. I never got to visit it but sounded cool and something you'd like but what's your favorite approach to get women? Casas? Clubs? Bars? Escort websites?

I'm sorry to have to back you up on this. It hurts my Centro rat heart. I've been to Zandaly twice in the past three weeks and I did not session either time. Zandaly was my favorite casa for years. The first time there was ony one girl available and she was below average for Veracruz standards. The second time the available staff were more of the same only older. The other Centro casas have been in similar decline the past couple of months. Definitely go the Laureles way for casas until further notice. It's only another 50 K or so more and well worth it. I can't believe I'm saying this. The good news is that history shows the exchange rate and the Centro casa deterioration are cyclical and are more likely than not to turn around. It's only a matter of time.

On a somewhat related note, has anyone been to Luna Lunera lately? I really miss the old days there. I haven't been in years.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3088839]You checked out the wrong casas. I'd go back and do the casas in Laureles. But yeah Medellin is a lot less enjoyable with the exchange rate the way it is.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3088839]You checked out the wrong casas. I'd go back and do the casas in Laureles. But yeah Medellin is a lot less enjoyable with the exchange rate the way it is.[/QUOTE]

Which casas in Laureles? I did visit 1 Angeles spa.
Mariana was easily 7-8. Lots of fun. Should have repeated but ran out of time.

One thing I'll say is that IMO Medellin has baddies. Compared to HK in Tijuana. No competition.

Initially it has to be P4 P -, I pay for what I can see, so may be Clubs and Bars. A chica friendly hotel close by the clubs and bars where chicas hangout would be ideal. Obviously will go exploring further once I get hang of things around. What is a casa, I see it's been interchangeably referred to as Spas. Are these short term in call locations.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3088902]Since the mansion is no longer a thing in medellin. I never got to visit it but sounded cool and something you'd like but what's your favorite approach to get women? Casas? Clubs? Bars? Escort websites?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WGraves;3089004]Initially it has to be P4 P -, I pay for what I can see, so may be Clubs and Bars. A chica friendly hotel close by the clubs and bars where chicas hangout would be ideal. Obviously will go exploring further once I get hang of things around. What is a casa, I see it's been interchangeably referred to as Spas. Are these short term in call locations.[/QUOTE]I would call a spa a place where they at least pretend to offer you a massage. In a casa, there is no such pretense.

[QUOTE=WGraves;3088882]Not new to mongering but to Columbia. Always stayed in hotels where chicas congregate and take them to my room in places like San Jose, Joco, Sosua etc. , What is a safer way to monger in Columbia for a first timer with minimal spanish. Where to stay and how to find chicas without spending too much time online or risking roaming around the streets. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Columbia South Carolina, or Columbia Missouri or?

LOL. Ok it's a typo, I meant Colombia. You have contributed so much here, hope you can help me with some info.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3089090]Columbia South Carolina, or Columbia Missouri or?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Huacho;3089090]Columbia, South Carolina or Columbia, Missouri or?[/QUOTE]Columbia, Maryland! LMAO!

[QUOTE=PDiddy123;3088945]One thing I'll say is that IMO Medellin has baddies. Compared to HK in Tijuana. No competition.[/QUOTE]This is why, no matter the price, and no matter the danger, guys will line up to head down to Colombia, and Medellin in particular. I'd say, not only is there a lot of good looking women, it's the fact that the culture promotes beauty and encourages women to want to be beautiful. So, they'll do the surgeries, get the treatments (there's all kinds of cosmetic clinics everywhere), go to the gym, get the hair and nails done, and dress the part.

The bitches are bad, and then they just go over the top with the shit.

And it trickles down to the more regular women, too. They might not be able to spend that much on appearance, but they really do make an effort. I, for one, respect and appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3088926]I'm sorry to have to back you up on this. It hurts my Centro rat heart. I've been to Zandaly twice in the past three weeks and I did not session either time.[/QUOTE]Centro casas are very hit or miss. More often miss. Every once in awhile a new cutie will pop up for a short period of time then bounce out. Worth a look but mainly want to stick to laureles casas for the better quality.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3089202]This is why, no matter the price, and no matter the danger, guys will line up to head down to Colombia, and Medellin in particular. I'd say, not only is there a lot of good looking women, it's the fact that the culture promotes beauty and encourages women to want to be beautiful. So, they'll do the surgeries, get the treatments (there's all kinds of cosmetic clinics everywhere), go to the gym, get the hair and nails done, and dress the part.

The bitches are bad, and then they just go over the top with the shit.

And it trickles down to the more regular women, too. They might not be able to spend that much on appearance, but they really do make an effort. I, for one, respect and appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Hit it right on the head. I have always thought this as well. Great post.

Wanted to give a quick update on my massage adventures. Mind you I'm doing nuru massages etc without FS so most of you won't be interested in this.

I saw Sarah at Samdhi and Valentine at Mandare.

Both were super hot like top 3rd of what you see at la Isla IMO. Pictures were accurate no Face AI BS.

Valentine was sweet but the massage / erotic part was average. I got the "Japanese" massage. The Mandare place itself, at least in poblado was poorly designed. Pillows were uncomfortable, mirrors were above eye level so it was hard to see the girl, and in general had a cheap feel. Then to make things worse Valentine said I can't touch her without paying 100 extra. Wtf what kind of erotic massage is this? She did play nice on the finish though with some ass shaking, spitting on it etc. I won't be back though.

Samadhi was excellent. The room is covered in fake greenery with rainforesteque music playing so it feels upscale. Only wish they had a mirror on more than just a single wall. The massage itself was 10/10, like I've never left an erotic massage thinking wow the masseuse knows what she's doing. As for the erotic part, she was great I just wish she spent more time on that. She did breathing in my ear, nails along my body, she had a good sense of the right pressure to put. However she only spent like 20% of the time doing things like this, I wish she spent less time on the lava rocks BS and more on what I came for. The HJ was above average but not exceptional. She did keep good eye contact and kept going when I finished.

BTW, can anyone dm me who knows of exceptional non-asian tantric massage places worldwide? I've only been to 2 that were exceptional: upscale body rub in NYC and a spot in Kharkiv Ukraine that is leveled to the ground by now I imagine. The Upscale place had several 8's but what was exceptional is most of them had incredible techniques, clearly they had some training program. Running their nails up and down your spine, massaging spots I didn't even know could feel so good, and a lot of them were better with their release than I can do myself. And then kharkiv had several caucasian 9-10's which you don't see often.