Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]I found a very interesting articel about male semen being an HIV enhancer.

...More than 80 percent of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infections are transmitted via sexual intercours...

...The team of German scientists had initially set out to determine if semen contained factors that inhibit the HIV infection. "We were not expecting to find an enhancer, and we were even more surprised about the strength," says report co-author Frank Kirchhoff, a virologist at the University of Ulm Clinic in Germany. "Most enhancers have maybe a two- or three-fold effect, but here the effect was amazing—more than 50-fold and, [color=red]under certain conditions, more than 100,000-fold[/color]."...

...In situations where low levels of virus are transferred—as during intercourse—Kirchhoff says, SEVI can make HIV up to 100,000 times more likely to spread when compared with the virus alone...

[url]http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=male-semen-makes-hiv-more-potent[/url][/QUOTE]
Well this goes a long way to explaining why it is very difficult to find any evidence of HIV transnission by DATY, and also why girls doing BBBJs with CIM may be taking too much risk.

"SEVI"????

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well this goes a long way to explaining why it is very difficult to find any evidence of HIV transnission by DATY, and also why girls doing BBBJs with CIM may be taking too much risk.

"SEVI"????[/QUOTE]
You should read the whole article (that's why I posted the link).

...An analysis of the peptide's structure in semen indicated that it hooked up with similar fragments to create amyloid fibers (clusters of protein fragments that have also been implicated in diseases such as Alzheimer's). The scientists refer to the amyloid fibers as "semen-derived enhancer of virus infection" (SEVI). If they do not link to become fibers, the researchers report, the peptide segments remain inactive and do not enhance viral transmission....

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well this goes a long way to explaining why it is very difficult to find any evidence of HIV transnission by DATY, and also why girls doing BBBJs with CIM may be taking too much risk.

"SEVI"????[/QUOTE]Well it depend if the girl pussy is filled up with hiv+ cum then it is almost the same as bbbj + cim

Can anyone recommend a good Medical Clinic to get a full STD check?

I understand the high STD/HIV risks from sex,BBBJ,DATY.and would like to minimise risks

I would therefore not indulge in that(hopefully)

I seek advise on
1.Risks from HJ
2.Soapy with body massage and/or touching breasts/pussy
3.Any way to avoid Herpes?

What if I have a course of cipro/doxycycline before or during my trip to LOS?Would it help

Thanks.

Animby pl advise.

[QUOTE=Tit Luvr2]3.Any way to avoid Herpes?[/QUOTE][url]http://www.freedomantiviral.com/products.htm[/url]

Pre-fix Invisible Condom is a high quality anti-viral sexual lubricant gel that helps to prevent the transmission of all sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV and Herpes.

[url]http://www.slicplus.com/[/url]

Anti-STD Personal Lubricant. If the condom splits, tears or breaks, you still have a 600% greater resistance against contracting an STD.

You have got to be joking. Refer to the United States FADA for the truth.

[QUOTE=Tit Luvr2]I understand the high STD/HIV risks from sex,BBBJ,DATY.and would like to minimise risks[/QUOTE]The best way to minimize risks is to Stay in your Hotel Room and Jerk off.

Or get a girl to Strip and do a show for you in your room and Jerk off over her.

There is a big difference between "preventing" the spread of STDs, and reducing the risk of getting STDs. There certainly ARE lubricants and gels that can reduce the risk of transmission of various STDs by between 50% and 90%,in a single incidence, but they are by no means complete in the protection that they provide. And their efficacy over the long term is less than for a single incident, because when used over a long time, they can cause skin irritations that in themselves increase the likelihood of transmission.

[QUOTE=Tit Luvr2]

I seek advise on
1.Risks from HJ
2.Soapy with body massage and/or touching breasts/pussy
3.Any way to avoid Herpes?

What if I have a course of cipro/doxycycline before or during my trip to LOS?[/QUOTE]

Sorry. I haven't been around much.
1. There is essentially no risk from a hand job.
2. There is essentially no risk from this activity.
3. Yes. Avoid anyone with symptoms (usually small, fluid filled blister-like lesions) and avoid anyone without symptoms as people can be infectious even when the lesions are not visible. Wear a condom. . Live dangerously.

Taking a course of ciprofloxacin or doxycycline BEFORE you get here, may help you be good and clean for the girls. Won't help you none. Plus, taking a course of antibiotics when you don't need them is seldom a good idea. Taking a course WHILE you are here might help but more likely it will just mask any symptoms which will eventually make your wife quite angry.

Really, if you're serious about no BBBJ and no DATY then reread many previous entries on this forum. They are not high risk activities. The worst thing you can do is have unprotected sex, especially anal. So, wear a condom and try not to be too paranoid.Sex should be fun!

[QUOTE=John Dough][url]http://www.freedomantiviral.com/products.htm[/url]

Pre-fix Invisible Condom is a high quality anti-viral sexual lubricant gel that helps to prevent the transmission of all sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV and Herpes.

[url]http://www.slicplus.com/[/url]

Anti-STD Personal Lubricant. If the condom splits, tears or breaks, you still have a 600% greater resistance against contracting an STD.[/QUOTE]

John, thank you for telling me about these products. They had escaped my attention. I checked out the pages you referenced and found ... snake oil. Come on. If these things did what they say they can do, these people would be out buying Microsoft and Google.

Check the ingredients and you'll see these are personal lubricants with the addition of some natural antiseptics and skin soothing botanicals. Nothing there will stop the passage of bacteria and viruses anymore than a good dollop of Vaseline. In fact, Vaseline might work better as it might plug your urethra for the duration of the sex.

The Freedom Antiviral page made several out and out false claims (at least one of which showed a complete lack of understanding of how the herpes virus works). The Slic+ page makes the 600% claim but doesn't give any information about how they derived that number or exaclty what it means.

It doesn't take much of a web search to find that Freedom Antiviral has been the target of an FDA probe and, I assume, if they continue to make these claims, will be again. Slic + seemed more sedate in their claims but I suspect they will eventually go too far.

The claims from both are great but remember, this wonderful internet makes it possible for anyone to claim nearly anything. I might claim my pet is a basset hound but if it goes quacking into the pond, chances are it;s a duck.

When you see wonderful things like this advertised on the web, check into it a little bit. Look for facts not testimonials.

Animby,Many thanks.

I did not understand -Herpes -"avoid anyone with symptoms and avoid anyone without symptoms !"

Doesn't it spread by contact with infected skin/person?

[QUOTE=Member #2041]And their efficacy over the long term is less than for a single incident, because when used over a long time, they can cause skin irritations that in themselves increase the likelihood of transmission.[/QUOTE]
This is especially true for sex workers, who have sex many more times a day than your average sexually active person.

Also, creams that (supposedly) minimise the risk of transmission of HIV and the like, would be unlikely to protect against skin-to-skin infections like warts or herpes. Not to mention pregnancy. Snake oil is right.

Tit Luvr2: You can catch herpes from direct contact with the blisters during an outbreak, but you can also get it from contact with the area just before the blisters break out and for a while after the blisters have healed. You won't be able to see any visible symptoms during these periods.

It's basically impossible to completely protect yourself from herpes - which is what Animby means by 'live dangerously!' Use common sense, look carefully for visible blisters (on the genitals AND on the mouth) and always use a condom. The rest is up to Lady Luck. If sex was completely risk free, there wouldn't be age limits on it.

[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]This is especially true for sex workers, who have sex many more times a day than your average sexually active person.

Also, creams that (supposedly) minimise the risk of transmission of HIV and the like, would be unlikely to protect against skin-to-skin infections like warts or herpes. Not to mention pregnancy. Snake oil is right. [/QUOTE]

I believe the point of developing such lubricants, Rubber Nursey, is to offer an alternative to no prophylactic at all. In many countries where men still have some alternatives, they will not in great numbers patronize sex-providers who offer poor or substandard experiences - such as the condomsex. With this reality in mind the developers of these products have proposed that such women need an alternative that men will not object to using. Therefore, the proper criteria by which to judge the effectiveness of such creams is relative to normal, natural sex, not to condomsex.

Arguably, if you can alter 'developing' societies in such a way that men no longer have many options sexually, as is the case in the 'first world', you will force them to accept condomsex. I think, however, that this will be a more difficult, long term project, and it is reasonable to credit these creams as at least a useful interim attempt at a solution.

Newsflash, Opebo. Women aren't asking for yet another way for men to shirk their sexual responsibilities. We've taken pills that increase our risk of cancer, used IUDs that make us infertile, bought sponges and caps and spermicides that inflame our vaginas and make us MORE susceptible to infection...all so MEN can have condom-free, consequence-free, responsibility-free sex. Enough is enough. Condoms work better than anything else we have, or are likely to have in the near future. Men just need to stop behaving like spoiled children and start using the damn things.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...P4P is NOT 'normal, natural sex'. It is sex between complete strangers, who know nothing about each others' sexual health or sexual history. Wh*res have sex with five, ten, fifteen or more men a day - certain mongers on this site go bareback from girl to girl (including their wives) and never have an STD test in their lives. This is NOT the kind of environment where you can rely on some ridiculous snake oil spray or lubricant, which was probably only designed to suit married men with vasectomies who have sex with their wives once a fortnight.

Perhaps we need to stop putting so much money into prophylactic research and focus on finding a cure for gross stupidity and selfishness.