Cali Reports

I know Marc Anthony was the 2 weeks ago. Is he coming back?

Curious why you live in such a dangerous place Anti..

[QUOTE=Antifreeze]A friend of mine, that happens to be pretty hot (photo attached to this message) wants to go to the Marc Anthony's concert on July 29th. She, like a lot of other Colombian friends, is full of great qualities but is also dirt poor.

All that to say that if you're in Cali on July 29th, and feel like you could go and relax by listening to a concert at Cali's stadium, private message me and we can see if we can arrange a meeting between you both. She's obviously expect the ticket to be paid by you, in exchange for a genuine good attitude and gratitude in company of Cali's finest (no sex involved, just a random act of generosity seeked).

I've been to the Luis Miguel concert with her about 8 months ago, and I had nothing else but a great time. Right now, I can't do that for her since I am involved with a girl that I like a lot and do not want to make things more complicated.

Antifreeze[/QUOTE]

Hey freeze,

Long time no see.

I won't be in cali for the concert, but I wouldn't mind meeting your friend, would she like me?

I will return in Sept.

Didn't see you on sexta when I was there a week ago, did you move? You were talking about Perada or some such place.

Hope alll is well,

D

I Jags,

I respect all opinions when they are communicated in a respectful manner. You are respectful in the way you express yours, and I truly appreciate that. But, I still disagree. Cali is way more dangerous than any other place in the US. The places you state in Detroit that may be more dangerous, YOU KNOW THEM, that's what makes them less dangerous to you and 95% of all other americans. You can fall into a trap here in a second. If someone shoots you in broad daylight with 20 witnesses, there still won't be any witness to report it to the police (since their police report is actually also their death certificate), and the killer would walk free to create more damage. This is actually the problem #1 in Colombia (inpunity). There's not significantly less dangerous people here in Colombia than in most countries, but they just create more damage before they are eventually stopped.

Freeze

Never in my life had I seen a gruesome site like that (I could have never been a cop, paramedic or cop), a mangled corpse just laying there at the side of the road. My gfirl was quite shook upo and couldn't sleep. Not the kind of thing I found erotic either, unlike certain masters of literaure that found some sensual turn on from morbidity. But I digress. This was not on the Sexta, but it was not in Mojica or Agua Blanca (the most hard core barrios) either.

American cities have dangerous districts, but how many of you guys go to crack row in those places? Jags, I know English is not your primary language and I respect you fopr partricipating in a foreign tongue. That sais, your logic is lacking. You do not SEE the guns because they are tucked in wastebelts and shoulder holsters. That does NOT mean they are not there.

Everybody has their own opinions on just how dangerous it is. I know my friends that live there are both worried and cautios, but they know no other way. As I have said many timesw, each must decide his own risk tolerance for himself. But being aware of what is going on, meaning NOT being drunk while walking around and understanding what people are saying iaround/about you is CRITICAL to minimizing the risk to your personal safety you take every time you leave the hotel in Cali.

Quality at the casas was WAY down, particularly Kaliente, and Frescas prices are now 20 entrada, 130ST onsite, 60 takeout (plus the girls will want at least 150K).


Too short a trip, and LOTS of flying on PACKED aircraft (Summer SUCKS for travel IMHO), but I get Colombia withdrawl symptoms without my monthly (or bimonthly) fix.


Finally, thanks to FREZE for tricking me into meeting his longtime friend and WSGer K-Dog who turned out to be quite a nice guy despite being a Republican. We flew back together and chatted quite a bit (but not about politics-WolfyBaby is still the ONLY rightwinger with whom I can talk politics with without getting hot under the collar).

California to Cali via Boston is not the suggested route, but it IS good for elite status miles (:

Hi,

I'm in Cali right now and let me tell everyone that it is pretty safe. I live in windsor plaza no problems bringing up girls and its close to la sexta. I recomend you to live close to la sexta bc there are all the discos. Donna recomend you going to prostitutes bc you ll have it easier and better with normal girls. donna worry about your looks or age you can have almost what you want. Don't listen to all this people trying to scare you saying that its so dangerous its like in any city if your careless it can happen. I'm from Madrid and people are talking about crime and stuff but as long as your not stupid as some people you see here in Colombia and other places your safe. so come to cali and I'm leaving for Medellin tomorrow. I've heard they have the best girls and I'll report on it. [blue][Report edited by Admin][/blue]

Good luck.

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Hey Surfer ... good post ...

I can remember being scared to death twice in the US ... once getting lost in the "bad" part of Chicago ... and the other time in a "bad" area of Miami ... both at night.

But ... nothing campares to seeing a kid ... probably in his early twenties, being executed in Medellin ... right outside my girlfriend's family casa in Medellin a couple years ago.

Last week in Medellin I was invited to another chica's casa for dinner ... her mother showed me fotos of her 2 boys ... who were 17 and 19 years old ... they were both in coffins ... killed seperately, a year apart, in the barrio.
She said that her children are on loan from God for only a short time.

I realize I'm writing about Medellin, however, Colombia is Colombia ...

Watch yourself ... and number one rule ... at least for me ... make as many friends as possible ... NEVER make enemies.

Suerte!

Everytime people bring up safety issue, someone is always saying how COL (Cali) is not as dangerous as (LA, NYC, London, Detriot, etc.). Most of the time it's people that are tourist passing thru(most of us are).

But if you talk with local expat (even some local Col), you get a totally different view. I've talked w/ a gringo expat living in Cali for 5 Yrs now, he tells little precaution he has to constantly do:

1) Have taxi drop him off at a short block from his place, so no one knows exactly where he lives. (we tourist don't have this problem because we stay short term or in hotels)

2) Not telling everyone where he lives, only people that need to know. Again tourist do not have this problem.

3) Never tells chicas that he just met where he lives, he takes them to "love" motel not back to his place. Unless they get into a relationship.

4) NOT [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off local chicas when he breaks up with them because they may have friends or relative that could "do something" to him afterward.

(Ricker mention never make enemies in COL, where life even gringos can be cheap. A Gringo Professor was murder in Cali last month over $2200 USD, the guy has been living in CALI for over 20 years, has wife and kids, respected in the community)

5) He has a car and scooter, asked him why said the Scooter is safer because in a pinch(at traffic) he can zoom away via sidewalk.

6) He owns a distribution business, but doesn't go to every sales call, he lets his COL sales rep do that. Because he doesn't want anyone to know that he is the owner.

For most part Tourist, we only stay in-country for short time, couple week or month at the most. We don't have regular schedule. But to live and work in Cali (COL) is a whole different thing. I would listen to advice of guys like antifreeze or other expat LIVING there regarding safety. Heck even my amigas that live in CALI or COL tell me I have to be careful of who I talk to or trust.

To the good side of CALI (COL). Every expat I've met said it is great. Lots of chicas(non-pro) to bang. As ANtifreeze once said, "I've have 1 wife, 2 kids, 2 horse, and 5 girlfriends! LOL!) or as another expat in Bogota told me,"if you are a foreigner living in COL, you have to beat off the chicas with a stick!". LOL!

I'd like to report what I understand is a fairly new casa in Cali. I liked it enough to return several times. Each time I found a girl I liked and a couple of them were willing to come to my apt. on other occasions.

There are many aspects of this casa that I like. The girls are young and of all different sizes.

This place, above others I've visited, is very very clean, light and airy. It is cheap too.

It's not for homophobic though, it is run by gay guys and the girls like that. Maybe they don't have to "do" the boss, I dunno, but it makes for a "happy" place. I don't mind the gays, where I live, they run the town, I'm accustom to them.

The actually have two casas on the same street separated by another casa. They are located on along the Cali river.

The addresses are:

Ave. 2a,, Norte No. 23n-37 & 23N-43
Tele. 661-6759

Prices are 35k pesos for half hour, 50k for an hour.

I liked Ana, a skinny little thing, looks middle eastern and came to my apt. in the mornings (8 & 9 am) before going to work in this casa. She charged me 80k for a house call.

Enjoy.

I am from Kentucky Surfer. Not sure about the non-English comment. Maybe I had some typos. As you do also.

Everyone dies. It's how you live that counts. Sure it's more dangerous. Decide why our going and if it's worth it.

Obviously you and Anti have made the decision it is worth it because you are there all the time.

I think everyone knows Colombia can be dangerous. Not really a debate here. I posted the actual numbers for murders. I will also be willing to bet gun ownership is higher in the states. Much higher.

I was not happy with the looks of the girls on the sexta however. Dead most nights. Even some weekend nights now. The hot women are going to more upscale clubs there.

here's a quick note in regards to age here.

if you're going to do a girl that is below 18, not only are you walking on thin ice in regards to legality, but you are dead wrong in regards to the morality. if you're going to post on this forum about coming to colombia to date **** girls, then i'd appreciate for the administration of this site to take you out, and i'd better never meet you. i am not saying that grobo did such a thing, but it's fairly close. a child is a child (even though the laws may be different in some countries). let them finish school and find their way towards prostitution if they have to, but do not show them the way for your own sick pathelogical impulses. if you have such feelings, go and get fixed, you'll find plenty of help. the reason that i have a problem with cali is that too many of these gringos come down here now. get a mature woman, not a helpless child.

[blue]hi antifreeze,

i couldn't agree more.

thanks,

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i, m not speaking about dating **** women. i'm speaking about cultural differences. in colombia a girl becomes old when she reaches 20. i know a lot of girls non pro that are dating guys over 30 and its normal here. it might be illega to date them like selling drugs here. but i know a lot of people here who are doing time but are free partying every night. the only thing is that they cannot leave cali. a good looking colombian woman that reaches 25 if she isnt a superbabe wont be as attractive to colombian men. who ever you want to date is upo to anyone. in no moment have i spoken about profesional girls bc there is no need for it. you can date these girls with the parents permission. anyone who goes to colombia and has to go to working girls must have a big problem socializing with people. antifreeze and others i donna know how well you know other countries but you must accept other peoples culture even if it goes against your moral believes. i'm not promoting anything just telling how things really are its up to every individual to do what they want.

i think every guy who has been to colombia and is not a sucker wont bring his moral values here bc if so is the case what the hell are you coming to colombia at the first place. and telling me that a 14 year old girl is like a european or us girl your dead wrong they might be that in age but they are much more mature. and ask around colombian men who they are married to most that i know have wifes no more than 15 in some cases i know a politician here in cali who has a wife that is 16. well have to go now.

Grobo,

Girls below the age of 18 do not exist. You can't look at them, compare them, nothing... They are not on the market for you to even look at. Once again, in your last post, I don't know if you're right (and don't care), since you're talking about something that does not exist (women below 18). They are children, there is no point comparing them to US or European children.

Antifreeze