General Reports

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Gentlemen,

On Monday I visited Ada at 37D and had a good time. But I got more than I bargained for. Suspected something yesterday, and this morning I knew it already, and the doctor confirmed: gonorrhoea. Am doing the antibiotics and all will be fine but don't you guys suffer the same fate!

The only time my dick touched her pussy was during the shower when I rubbed against her and when my I smacked my head against her pussy before putting on the condom. And still it found its way to me!

I know it was her because she was my only working girl partner for 3 weeks. I only have one non-WG partner who I know is clean. And THANK GOD I haven't fucked her this week, the shit sure would have hit the fan!

This is why I always say have fun and STAY SAFE.
Johnny Rocket.[/QUOTE]


Sorry to read about the problem you had.

I offer the following information as a tip to everyone. But, I do not want to sound like a army training video.

I have been doing pay-4-play for about 13 years in Mexico and Asia and I ALWAYS USE A CONDOM! Ok, when I was a newbie years ago on my first trip to Asia, a few times when I was with young girl I would let them give me a BBBJ. Now, I always use a condom--even for BJs.

My point is, it is not just 37D you have to be concerned about--but all encounters with girls who offer sex for money--use a condom. Let's face it, these girls lick guy's dicks and their ass, and fuck for a living, you can bet that most girls will have or had some form of STD.

The best condom I found that feels great when I use it is:

LifeStyles Sheer Pleasure Lubricated

This is a great product and you feel great using it, I get a lot more feeling with the girl when I use it. I also use it when girls give me BJs.

Note that guys can get STD from their regular girlfriends, thus STD is a risk of life. I find that condom use greatly reduces the risk.

Ok, enough with my "Public Service Announcement."

If anyone knows 37D, the right thing to do is to tell her, immediately. Anyone who has been with her should get checked, with or without symptoms. As for the rest of the mongers, always use a condom and have sex safely. I'm sure you all know how to have safe sex, yeah?

Gyaos.

For a few months, it seemed as all the managers (mammas) of the new Philippa girls in Wan Chai wanted to standardize the pricing at $1500 HKD for all night and $1000 HKD for ST. For the first time ever, I had girls unwilling to negotiate for a period of about four months over the summer. As a result, I tended to hit the Thai and Indo girls more often as well as the periodic Chinese girl.

It seems that revenue was down as one girl told me over the weekend and the Philippina girls are once again a bit more independent - outside of Fenwicks. Had one from Laguna this past weekend that was kind of a newbie and inexperienced but willing to please. She asked $1500. She read the look on my face and said I was a nice guy and $1000 would do. It was only 6 pm and this was for all night, so I did not even bother to negotiate more. 4 pops by morning made it a relative bargain.

The next night, Saturday, I fell asleep (Jet Lag), woke up at 2 am, could not sleep, headed to Wan Chai, dropped in at the Galaxy and headed out with a hottie for $500 HKD short term and got the best bbj I have had in a long time.

So, the Philippina mommas have realized that $1500 HKD for long time in the HK market is not sustainable.

[QUOTE=Johnjohnjr2000]. Yes free. The Thai girl that goes by Kea stayed with me overnight. The only thing that I paid for was food and taxi cab. . . .. She has friends in HKG. English was bad with both. In fact, her friends did some translation for me. Maybe I had girls over me because their were few African American males in the club. I don't know. I don't care. .[/QUOTE]


Absolute bullshit. If you couldn't communicate with the girl then how do you know if she was asking for money??

You don't understand the Asian culture and things such as loss of face etc etc. As I said before, I have heard this story many times about tourists not paying the girls.

What is the poor girl supposed to do? She feels it is her fault since the groundrules weren't established. Especially an inexperienced girl, she will bite the bullet and take the loss herself. I have seen them cry in recounting their 'tourist' stories to me.

How do I know it is true in your case?? It may sound racist but I have yet to find a Thai girl that likes African American men. That is a fact and while I grew up in the states and have many black friends, the Thai's are incredibly racist in this area. They avoid African Americans unless they know them as friends of friends.

I have personally seen hundreds of Thai women run away from African Americans in Neptunes and I always feel bad since that racism is a unfortunate trait of Thai's.

So yes in your mind you were lucky but in reality in her mind she was unlucky.(The fact that you believe she works in a hotel in Thailand and is here for fun is the first sign of your distortion of reality).

Also, the Japanese thing is another bullshit. She was most likely one of the 2 old Chinese hags they allow to enter into Neptunes.

[QUOTE=Softy]Just for the record, I have had a periodic freebie from Neptunes, Fenwicks and particularly Laguna. .[/QUOTE]


How many have been Thai?? Flippers are a completely different story. Laguna on Sundays is a no brainer for freebies for Indo's.

Neptunes on a Monday for a freebie Thai on first meet? That I have to question.

You are right some of the mammasans have been trying to raise the prices. They have not been successful. It's like in P. Burgos in Manila when business was down and they tried to jack up the prices and then business was down even more.

One of the larger import operations in Wan Chai will not even bring any of the girls that they have previously brought into Wan Chai as they try to establish higher prices. I was chatting with one girl last night who came by herself to Hong Kong as she had previously been brought over a couple times by this operation. She had a little bit of a problem scrapping up the "show money" but is loving it her without an agent. She is making so much more money for herself as she does not have an agent cutting into her earnings.

I do not expect the mammasans will be able to move the market upward so dramatically as there is too much competition from Thais, freelancers, maids. A number of girls went home over the last quarter in pretty bad spirits as they got very little business by having to stick to the prices their mammasans were asking them to get. While Wan Chai is one of the more expensive places to monger in Hong Kong if you try to charge more than the regular Wan Chai market price you are not going to get much business. There is just too much competition for oligopoly pricing to come into play. It is nice that at least a few industries in Hong Kong are free from collusion and oligopoly forces.


[QUOTE=Softy]For a few months, it seemed as all the managers (mammas) of the new Philippa girls in Wan Chai wanted to standardize the pricing at $1500 HKD for all night and $1000 HKD for ST. For the first time ever, I had girls unwilling to negotiate for a period of about four months over the summer. As a result, I tended to hit the Thai and Indo girls more often as well as the periodic Chinese girl.

It seems that revenue was down as one girl told me over the weekend and the Philippina girls are once again a bit more independent - outside of Fenwicks. Had one from Laguna this past weekend that was kind of a newbie and inexperienced but willing to please. She asked $1500. She read the look on my face and said I was a nice guy and $1000 would do. It was only 6 pm and this was for all night, so I did not even bother to negotiate more. 4 pops by morning made it a relative bargain.

The next night, Saturday, I fell asleep (Jet Lag), woke up at 2 am, could not sleep, headed to Wan Chai, dropped in at the Galaxy and headed out with a hottie for $500 HKD short term and got the best bbj I have had in a long time.

So, the Philippina mommas have realized that $1500 HKD for long time in the HK market is not sustainable.[/QUOTE]

In regard to Thai freebies and Asian culture in general...

I would have to agree with the posters that Johnjohnjr2000 experience was probably not a genuine freebie but a WG who had expected payment in the morning.

One of the delights of mongering in Wan Chai is happening on the occansional sweet young thing in one of the bars. A few drinks, a dance, talk and onto an invitation to stay the night. You have her total attention,soak up her compliments and generally feel like an invigorated younger man. If no money is mentioned from her side, why ruin the atmosphere. After all you know she is a WG and know the standard rates but it is nice to have an illusion of a GF, so don't taint it with money talk. This all works out fine, just slip you the correct fee in the morning.

Unfortunately this scenario is not always the case. Sometime a girl who seems very sweet in the bar, turns aggressive about payment and extras, short cutting the service and the time. A real bummer if you have invested time and money in Wan Chai rather than a quick fix in a yellow sign or 141.

Many of the sweet girls turn hard due to bad experiences in the past. Some like Johnjohnjr2000 are mistakes (not doubt lack of experience on both sides) others are mongers who just don't care.

If like me you like the GFE try to positively reinforce this type of experience for the girl so she is happy to oblige next time. For Asian girls you will find they don't always communicate their needs and wants directly. You have to read the signals and respond appropriately. If nothing else being in a bar in Wan Chai apart from on Sunday is a sure sign a girl is expecting payment, exceptions might be a domestic helper or a girl who buys her own drinks (extremely rare) or at least does not ask for "lady drinks" such as Marguerita.
I have had dozen of girls from Wan Chai without discussing payment first. I have also had a number of freebies. In almost all cases the morning transaction was smooth, appreciated and expected. In one case a DH was expecting shopping whereas I assumed was free with dinner, and another asked for $500 more than I had given which was sorted out amicably without further exchange.

Anyway in summary if the girl does not appear like a hardened pro, try not to make her into one by fulfilling your side of the deal

BJK

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]I know it was her because she was my only working girl partner for 3 weeks. I only have one non-WG partner who I know is clean. And THANK GOD I haven't fucked her this week, the shit sure would have hit the fan!

This is why I always say have fun and STAY SAFE.
Johnny Rocket.[/QUOTE]


I noticed you posted on oct 6th about having a DATY,BBBJ session with a 141 girl. It is entirely possible she gave it to you since it may take up to 30 days for symptoms to appear.

"The fact sheet from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) states, "Many men with gonorrhea may have no symptoms at all, some men have some signs or symptoms that appear two to five days after infection; symptoms can take as long as 30 days to appear. Symptoms and signs include a burning sensation when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url], or a white, yellow, or green discharge from the penis. Sometimes men with gonorrhea get painful or swollen testicles."

Guys, to answer your questions and comments:

Eye Spy, yes I did do BBBJ as well as DATY. My dick touched her pussy outside and lips briefly but did not enter her.

HK Dog: You are right, it certainly could take up to a month to appear. But, that is a relatively rare case. The doctor I saw confirmed that the 2-5 day incubation was by far the most likely scenario.

Gyaos: I speak Cantonese better than any foreigner I know, but not well enough to go in to 37D and explain what happened. I wonder what their reaction to it would be even if I did. My guess would be denial.

I have finished my course of antibiotics and all seems clean. In a few days there should be no doubt. Thankfully.

As it happens I'll be either hosting visitors, out of town or just too damn busy over the next few weeks, so this is a good time for me to take a break. But I'll be back to P4P a bit later and I will still be on the board, chiming in as necessary.

Take care guys. Have fun and stay safe!!
Johnny Rocket

Hello to all,

During my upcoming Trip I am interested in meeting a hot Russian girl in Hong Kong.
Another Question: are there Erotic Shows or Striptease in Hong Kong?

I know, there are more Asian girls, but as I will proceed to Thailand I prefer the diversity.

[QUOTE=Traveller08]Hello to all,

During my upcoming Trip I am interested in meeting a hot Russian girl in Hong Kong.
Another Question: are there Erotic Shows or Striptease in Hong Kong?

I know, there are more Asian girls, but as I will proceed to Thailand I prefer the diversity.[/QUOTE]


For that flavour you have to take the 1hr ferry to Macau. There you will find Russian girls. However I wouldn't call them 'hot' but if you really want then you can imagine they are.

Decided to try out the 141 route and say that near to my service apartment, there was this buidling with 6 hotties. Went to 5th floor and rang the bell. This PRC girl with apparently not too large tits opened and welcomed me in. No english but a friendly welcoming attitude.
Lotsa kissing including toungue started even before the shower and I think to myself, man I seem to be in the right place. The shower was good too with lotsa BJ action. That's when I noticed that my impression about her tits was wrong. They were a handful, just about the right size. We retired to the bed with a world class BBJ. I insisted on returning the favour and we got into a 69 position. I experimented with a finger in the ass to which there was no objection!
We started with her riding me and making all the right sounds. Curiosity got the better of me and I pointed to doggy style with the ass as a preference. The babe readily agreed, put some KY jelly on and held my dick to guide to her ass.
Guys this was a smoothest ride I have had in a long time as a matter of fact, the last one like this was in Shenzhen at the ShangriLa about 18 months ago.
Her ass contractions were so good that I popped a load in barely 5 mins. She insisted that i stay the whole hour and gave me a great BJ to make me pop my 2nd load.
All in all a definite repeat. Oh and the relevant details are
5th Floor, Hing Loong building, Opp cosco tower. Girl is called Kai sai and damages were HK$400. TOTALLY WORTH IT.

[QUOTE=Member #2634]Decided to try out the 141 route and say that near to my service apartment, there was this buidling with 6 hotties. Went to 5th floor and rang the bell. This PRC girl with apparently not too large tits opened and welcomed me in. No english but a friendly welcoming attitude.
Lotsa kissing including toungue started even before the shower and I think to myself, man I seem to be in the right place. The shower was good too with lotsa BJ action. That's when I noticed that my impression about her tits was wrong. They were a handful, just about the right size. We retired to the bed with a world class BBJ. I insisted on returning the favour and we got into a 69 position. I experimented with a finger in the ass to which there was no objection!
We started with her riding me and making all the right sounds. Curiosity got the better of me and I pointed to doggy style with the ass as a preference. The babe readily agreed, put some KY jelly on and held my dick to guide to her ass.
Guys this was a smoothest ride I have had in a long time as a matter of fact, the last one like this was in Shenzhen at the ShangriLa about 18 months ago.
Her ass contractions were so good that I popped a load in barely 5 mins. She insisted that i stay the whole hour and gave me a great BJ to make me pop my 2nd load.
All in all a definite repeat. Oh and the relevant details are
5th Floor, Hing Loong building, Opp cosco tower. Girl is called Kai sai and damages were HK$400. TOTALLY WORTH IT.[/QUOTE]


That girl goes by various names. I believe on the 141 sites she calls herself Pan Dan. Personally I tried her about 3 yrs ago when she was working on Mercer St and I thought she was a few yrs past her sell by date back then.

Warning! There are rumors on another website about her in that she steals money from your wallet when you aren't looking so be careful.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys, to answer your questions and comments:

Eye Spy, yes I did do BBBJ as well as DATY. My dick touched her pussy outside and lips briefly but did not enter her.

As it happens I'll be either hosting visitors, out of town or just too damn busy over the next few weeks, so this is a good time for me to take a break. But I'll be back to P4P a bit later and I will still be on the board, chiming in as necessary.

Take care guys. Have fun and stay safe!

Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE] Do you think you will go back to 37 Dundass? For me it is too hard to resist.

Actually dan dan is on the 6th floor. Tried her too. Not too good though.

[QUOtE=Hk Dog]That girl goes by various names. I believe on the 141 sites she calls herself Pan Dan. Personally I tried her about 3 yrs ago when she was working on Mercer St and I thought she was a few yrs past her sell by date back then.

Warning! There are rumors on another website about her in that she steals money from your wallet when you aren't looking so be careful.[/QUOTE]