Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2639926]Where do you guys get this dancing idea from? In almost 17 years I have danced in Colombia 2 or 3 times and I pretty much only deal with chicks I do not give money to. Salsa clubs are not the only place to meet a woman. File this one with not being able to wear shorts and baseball caps.[/QUOTE]What is the point to go to Colombia to dance? And jump around a girl for some time to get her laid? When you can pay 20 $ and she will spread her legs. If not she than the other one. And you can choose and do her in 5 min.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2639803]How many girls do you need and how much time do you have to spend to pickup one pussy? If you are good to pick up the girls, you don't need to travel anywhere. Stay at your place, its less expense. Or do you think that the girls will stay in the line on your arrival? Anyway you need to pay the money, that is why go to Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]You didn't read my post well. I don't like Pro girls and in Santa Fe there are only pros.

Sure, I have to pay, I already know it, but there are also girls who accept money or gifts for different reasons and they aren't pro.

I understand you never went to Cali, or if you went to Cali, you don't know this interesting city.

[QUOTE=Quiksilver;2639862]Bogota and it's (mostly) not close. It's just a far bigger city with much more going on. The one caveat I would maybe give is if you dance salsa well. Cali just lives and breathes salsa and, considering there are generally far less gringos in Cali, that would help a lot. The times I've pulled regular chicks or seen others do it, there was generally salsa involved and the girls there being impressed that an extranjero can hold his own or sometimes better.

My vote would still be Bogota with the added bonus that Santa Fe is infinitely bigger and better than La Veinte should you want to use that as a backup plan.[/QUOTE]I always have around 25-28 free days and I always rent an apartment. I need 2-3 girls only because I'd like to get a good girlfriend experience. If Bogota is big, it doesn't matter for me because I only fish online, since it's not my style to stop a girl on the street or mall and start talking to her.

Then I don't dance at all The only thing that worries me is the cold of Bogota which gives me goosebumps and my cock won't straighten. Jajajaja.

I will think carefully about your recommendations.

I don't understand if you know Cali well because I would also like to know: will I spend more money doing these things of mine in Bogota than in Cali?

[QUOTE=Igor54;2639969]What is the point to go to Colombia to dance? And jump around a girl for some time to get her laid? When you can pay 20 $ and she will spread her legs. If not she than the other one. And you can choose and do her in 5 min.[/QUOTE]Some of us prefer to do things other than just fuck when we visit a country.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2640187]I always have around 25-28 free days and I always rent an apartment. I need 2-3 girls only because I'd like to get a good girlfriend experience. If Bogota is big, it doesn't matter for me because I only fish online, since it's not my style to stop a girl on the street or mall and start talking to her.

Then I don't dance at all The only thing that worries me is the cold of Bogota which gives me goosebumps and my cock won't straighten. Jajajaja.

I will think carefully about your recommendations.

I don't understand if you know Cali well because I would also like to know: will I spend more money doing these things of mine in Bogota than in Cali?[/QUOTE]Think I know where you're coming from. I've lived in both but more familiar with Bogota and sounds like where you're leaning. This is all subjective, but here's my take.

In my experiences with non-Colombianos in Bog, it all depends on pretty much which climate they were used to or had just come from. For those from Canada, northern US, most of Europe, and other colder climates, it wasn't problem. For those that were used to warmer climates or maybe had just come from Cartagena or Santa Marta, it was more of an issue for them.

Another poster mentioned about it being hard to breathe in BOG. That's more so because of the high elevation but is an important consideration for anyone with respiratory, vascular or similar health problems.

It doesn't appear that you mentioned anything about your level of Spanish, but if you don't speak any at all or very limited, Bogota will be a better choice. Bogota being the capital and financial heart of Colombia means you're more likely to find someone who speaks English. Plus, it's 4 or 5 x the size of Cali population-wise, so you're more likely to find what you're looking for from a numbers game.

I enjoyed my time living in Cali and loads of fun hanging out in the San Antonio and Grenada neighborhoods of Cali. Las Brisas discoteca closer to Jamundi is one of my favorite salsa places in the world. I'm sure other can offer their opinions here and Colombia is a fun-loving country wherever, but I just don't believe a person who isn't a dancer would enjoy Cali as much. Also, I don't have any numbers but my guess is that there's a higher proportion of people in BOG who speak English compared to Cali. One thing Cali does have going for it is that it generally has a lower cost of living and that includes the novias.

Honestly, if you're going to spend almost a month there, I'd say just go to Bogota and that's especially true if you don't speak much Spanish. If the cold becomes an issue, you could always just take one of your novias (or both) on a bus ride to one of the surrounding towns like Melgar or Girardot for a few days or whatever. I don't remember exactly but believe they are maybe 2 or 3 hours away. They're both much warmer than Bogota and with lots of swimming pools.

Villavicencio in the south could also be an option. Very warm and much flatter terrain for those with mobility issues. Don't remember exactly either but maybe 2 hours away from BOG.

Even if you hate it, domestic flights are very inexpensive out of Bogota in case you want to check out other destinations within the country including Cali.

[QUOTE=Igor54;2639969]What is the point to go to Colombia to dance? And jump around a girl for some time to get her laid? When you can pay 20 $ and she will spread her legs. If not she than the other one. And you can choose and do her in 5 min.[/QUOTE]Who said anything about going to Colombia just to dance? Dancing is far more engrained into Colombian culture (and especially Calenos) even compared to many other Latin American countries like Chile or Bolivia for example. There's a reason why some call Cali the salsa capital of the world and would probably be worth mentioning to someone asking about Cali.

I get that some don't enjoy dancing, but I do it because it's a blast. Maybe you like golf. I can't fucking stand it, but who cares really? Different strokes for different folks. Last thing I'll say is that I've met very women internationally who didn't at least appreciate or weren't attracted to a man who could dance. That goes for regular chicks and pros. Anyone who doesn't think it makes a difference when it's time for the bedroom with either is greatly mistaken.

It doesn't cost a thing and for me at least, far preferable to talking up some chick in a bar for a few hours and going about it that way.

But again, different strokes for different folks.

[QUOTE=Quiksilver;2639951]Congratulation. You get a cookie. OP asked for recommendations / difference between the two cities and I thought I'd give my two cents.

The ironic thing is that I'm not American, love dancing in general, and don't do shorts (unless I'm at the beach or the gym) or baseball caps.

Also, seems to me that a guy who has only danced 2 or 3 times over 17 years in Colombia is about as gringo a thing as you can get.[/QUOTE]Exactly QuickS!

Enjoy Colombia!

Dancing is definitely a big part of the culture and fun, regardless if anther guy has only done it 3 times in almost 20 years.

So what? LOL.

There will always be those to interject how their way is better and they never have to pay, etc, etc, 🤦*♂️

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Quiksilver;2640265]Think I know where you're coming from. I've lived in both but more familiar with Bogota and sounds like where you're leaning. This is all subjective, but here's my take.

In my experiences with non-Colombianos in Bog, it all depends on pretty much which climate they were used to or had just come from. For those from Canada, northern US, most of Europe, and other colder climates, it wasn't problem. For those that were used to warmer climates or maybe had just come from Cartagena or Santa Marta, it was more of an issue for them.[/QUOTE]I am writing to you only to answer your doubts.

1) I speak fluent Spanish.

2) Before I have 25 days completely free, I will have to do a very exhausting job, a trek in the mountains. So in those 25 free days I'm not interested in having fun outside my comfortable apartment, I just want to rest and leave the house for a little while, perhaps to go to some restaurant. I would like to meet 2-3 girls who stay with me for 7-10 days each. I like listening to music, cooking and doing many things.

Certainly I have to look for girls on social media before meeting them. I am a funny type and I love to play. But I have to pay money for them, I already know this. . And as I like beautiful girls, I will have to pay more.

So maybe, it would be better to go to a cheaper Colombian city if I don't leave home a little, at least I can save money. Don't you think this?

Certainly Colombia is not Africa, but in Africa the girls were crazy to stay with me for 10 days in my apartment.

What a pity! Jajaja.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2640305]I am writing to you only to answer your doubts.

1) I speak fluent Spanish.

2) Before I have 25 days completely free, I will have to do a very exhausting job, a trek in the mountains. So in those 25 free days I'm not interested in having fun outside my comfortable apartment, I just want to rest and leave the house for a little while, perhaps to go to some restaurant. I would like to meet 2-3 girls who stay with me for 7-10 days each. I like listening to music, cooking and doing many things.

Certainly I have to look for girls on social media before meeting them. I am a funny type and I love to play. But I have to pay money for them, I already know this. . And as I like beautiful girls, I will have to pay more.

So maybe, it would be better to go to a cheaper Colombian city if I don't leave home a little, at least I can save money. Don't you think this?.[/QUOTE]Speaking Spanish will open up many more options. Just going by experiences here, but I would say Cali is maybe around 20% cheaper on average than Bogota. Definitely not as hectic as Bogota and much warmer. BOG and Cartagena are probably the two most expensive places generally speaking in Colombia with Medellin creeping up not far behind. Once you go outside of those cities, general living costs can be much lower. I myself will be going to Bucaramanga soon for 2 or 3 months and have noticed prices seems to be noticeably lower than Bogota.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2640305]I am writing to you only to answer your doubts.

Before I have 25 days completely free, I will have to do a very exhausting job, a trek in the mountains. So in those 25 free days I'm not interested in having fun outside my comfortable apartment, I just want to rest and leave the house for a little while, perhaps to go to some restaurant. I would like to meet 2-3 girls who stay with me for 7-10 days each. I like listening to music, cooking and doing many things.

Certainly I have to look for girls on social media before meeting them. I am a funny type and I love to play. But I have to pay money for them, I already know this. . And as I like beautiful girls, I will have to pay more.

So maybe, it would be better to go to a cheaper Colombian city if I don't leave home a little, at least I can save money. Don't you think this?.[/QUOTE]JL, go to [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and put up a profile of what you want. There was this guy named Dublin who ignored what I said and tried to get a bunch of hos and turn them into arrangement type girls, and they robbed him blind. Using seeking is not going to 100% prevent that, but you can start chatting with the gals now and see what they are like and if they are of sound character. Yes, it is $100 but it is well worth it to get the arrangement you want.

I would hate to see what happened to Dublin happen to you. Also, do not get fixated on one girl. Rotate as many as you can and be willing to listen to what they want and do some of what they want (their music, their food, their fun).

Also, if you find two that like each other, it is much better to have a party of 3. Usually when people are in groups of 3 (or more), boredom does not follow so much.

One guy is on here talking about how terrible Colombia is and how much better Mexico is. He has his point but the thing I mentioned is that he was hanging in the gutters. When I used seeking, I met some ho types, but I also met women who were the earners for their family and who cared for their grandparents and would do anything for them, lawyers, medical students, and engineers. It was pretty standard though that the women with jobs worked 6 days a week, so you are likely going to have to make do with students and the unemployed. I met amazing women from seeking and it bugs me to see everyone say "Eh, they're all a bunch of hos on there. " They are not, not by a long shot.

Over the last 2 years, I met a few women in Medellin, a dozen in Bogota, and two in Cali who would fulfill what you want. You want an arrangement so you should go to the place where women are looking for that too.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2640400]JL, go to [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and put up a profile of what you want. There was this guy named Dublin who ignored what I said and tried to get a bunch of hos and turn them into arrangement type girls, and they robbed him blind. Using seeking is not going to 100% prevent that, but you can start chatting with the gals now and see what they are like and if they are of sound character. Yes, it is $100 but it is well worth it to get the arrangement you want.[/QUOTE]I have never gone to Dublin, although I would like to go. Jajajaaja.

You're right about everything, but do you know what bothers me about Colombian girls? Only one thing, because I love Colombia and the kindness of the people. All the girls I spoke to online asked me for money. This bothers me a lot. Yet I'm sure they weren't pro, they were normal girls. In Cali I only met 1-2 girls in 25 days, for this very reason.

I usually give gifts if the girls stay with me and in the end, when I leave, I always give them some money, because I understand that they need it and I would always but always make them happy and I am happy too that they are with me in a comfortable way. I am always careful about this and their requests when we be together, but when a girl asks me for money before meeting me, she annoys me a lot and I don't keep talking anymore.

Maybe Colombia is not for me?

I am still a bit confused whether it is safe to visit Santa Fe during 7-10 PM by taking a taxi or Uber to the well known clubs and restricting one to the small area? And I guess one has to use taxi or Uber to leave as well?

Or is it an area that should be avoided by solo and / or first time travelers?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2640400]It was pretty standard though that the women with jobs worked 6 days a week, so you are likely going to have to make do with students and the unemployed.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Women work 5 or 6 days per week and students study likewise. There are not too many chicks in Colombia sitting idly around that will be able to stay with him for 7 to 10 days if they are not hookers. Normal chicks have responsibilities to tend to. They can not just take a break from life because he comes to town.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2640740]I am still a bit confused whether it is safe to visit Santa Fe during 7-10 PM by taking a taxi or Uber to the well known clubs and restricting one to the small area? And I guess one has to use taxi or Uber to leave as well?

Or is it an area that should be avoided by solo and / or first time travelers?[/QUOTE]You should be fine if you take normal everyday precautions. All the clubs are in the same area most on CR 16 a.

You can take Uber or taxi out too-.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2640400]JL, go to [URL]seeking.com[/URL] and put up a profile of what you want. There was this guy named Dublin who ignored what I said and tried to get a bunch of hos and turn them into arrangement type girls, and they robbed him blind. Using seeking is not going to 100% prevent that, but you can start chatting with the gals now and see what they are like and if they are of sound character. Yes, it is $100 but it is well worth it to get the arrangement you want.

I would hate to see what happened to Dublin happen to you. Also, do not get fixated on one girl. Rotate as many as you can and be willing to listen to what they want and do some of what they want (their music, their food, their fun).

Also, if you find two that like each other, it is much better to have a party of 3. Usually when people are in groups of 3 (or more), boredom does not follow so much.

One guy is on here talking about how terrible Colombia is and how much better Mexico is. He has his point but the thing I mentioned is that he was hanging in the gutters. When I used seeking, I met some ho types, but I also met women who were the earners for their family and who cared for their grandparents and would do anything for them, lawyers, medical students, and engineers. It was pretty standard though that the women with jobs worked 6 days a week, so you are likely going to have to make do with students and the unemployed. I met amazing women from seeking and it bugs me to see everyone say "Eh, they're all a bunch of hos on there. " They are not, not by a long shot.

Over the last 2 years, I met a few women in Medellin, a dozen in Bogota, and two in Cali who would fulfill what you want. You want an arrangement so you should go to the place where women are looking for that too.[/QUOTE]Beginning in January, SA will raise the price AGAIN. They just might be the most expensive dating site out there now. I had good results in years past with SA, when it was 69, then 79 a month but it kept on going up and usefullness going down. Since the pandemic seems like more and more scams and chics on there with no intention of meeting and only want to sell photos. Lots of fake profiles, you'll find the same girl in different cities within a few hours of each other, because they are not real and are fishing. Lots of profiles disappear from view overnight etc. Etc. It is possible to find a good one here and there, if you invest enough time and money into it but in my opinion, it ain't what it use to be.