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[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1944875]So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.[/QUOTE]I am sorry to hear that this happened to you. I think these people are trying to take the fullest advantage of you, because you are a Bule, which I think really is unfortunate. I am not sure if I want to go there for a threesome after reading what about what you had just experienced. By the way, when did this happen to you if I may ask.

[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1944875]Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!
[/QUOTE]Spot on. I had a similar experience there in Dec last year. A mamasan was insistent that I take a girl from her lineup for 1.5 M, but I thankfully declined. Later found that most of the girls from the same lineup were going for 800 k from another mamasan. I finally selected a girl who seemed very enthusiastic to be picked, but that energy quickly disappeared once we got to the room. 20 second CBJ, wasn't open to several positions, 'hey mister, finish quick' etc etc and my mood was dead at that point. While leaving she had the gall to say that Malio has a '200 k tip minimum compulsory'. I countered with 'how about zero tip for your laziness?' That made her break out in angry Bahasa, so I left a 50 k tip and told her that it's 50 k more than she deserves. Declined the room cleaning boys pestering for tips, and when I got to the door, the security guys too hassled me with the 'mister, hadia', 'no hadia?' etc. Responded with 'fuck hadia' and left.

As for threesomes, I feel it's never worth it. The girls may pick their friends, but they never interact with each other. Most won't even double team on blowjobs. You're just paying them twice the money to do half the work.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1944868]Have you EVER participated in the Jakarta scene? Where do you think the letters TC are derived from? Let me help you, (surprise!): Today's Country (later Tiara Ceria).[/QUOTE]Yeah that's what iT was called that's what I wrote too. It changed names. But When you say Tc. IT was Well known.

So you know what replaced this place?

Koperenklaas: block m you mean nightlife area or the malls to meet them?

Can't remember being there after idulnfitri.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1944894]Wasn't that near my 2 favorite restaurants? KFC and Kentucky Fried Chicken?[/QUOTE]Haha now I see What you are on about. Grammar nazi baitches.

Thanks for correcting me. Not sure if it was grammar mistake or a typo.

But you get my question.

[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1944875]Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!

The room was quite nice actually, but that was the end of the joy. Girl #1 says her friend has never been with a Bule before and is fearful of the size of my cock. I'm thinking 'why did you insist on bringing her with us then?' We showered and got on the bed, and then the condom came out for the blowjob. Nothing more erection killing than getting a blowjob with a condom. So eventually I fuck girl #1, and it's very much like a starfish. Then I move on to #2, the one who had never been fucked by a Bule. First, she tries to dodge giving the blowjob, but I insist I want to see her slutty Indonesian lips wrapped around my cock. She gives in and sucks my cock for a brief while. With condom. Now I'm moving to position to fuck her, and the bahasa is flying fast and furious between the girls. Girl #1 asks if I just want to fuck her again and finish in her because her friend is worried about the size of my cock. Again, why bring her in to this is she doesn't want Bule cock? Well, I was having none of it, so I turned Girl #2 over on her stomach, grabbed under her hips on each side and pulled her ass cheeks firmly against my hips so that my cock went right up her pussy. I proceeded to fuck her good and deep so that she'll remember Bule cock!

So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!

I have pics and video of the BATS girl sucking my cock. I'll post those soon![/QUOTE]That's the worst story I've ever heard at Malioboro. I find your story concerning since I did not know they ever tried pulling that kind of crap there. I am wondering if perhaps it had something to do with you taking 2 girls. I have never paid for a condom there. The girls always have them (many times they don't use them anyway). I have never had a blowjob there with a condom. I have had girls ask to use a condom for the BJ, but I've always refused that and they gave the BJ sans condom. I have also never had any of the guys seated near the staircase ask for a tip, let alone give them a tip. My guess is perhaps they identified you as a sucker when you paid 100 k for the condoms initially, or they thought you were a high roller since you took 2 girls. I have had the girls at the front desk downstairs ask for a tip as I pay the bill, but I've never given them one. I've never had any of the security guys on the way out ask for a tip, however, I never let them get a taxi for me. I always walk out to the street towards Gajah Mada plaza and flag my own taxi in the street away from Malioboro. Because I don't want the security giving me a crap taxi then hassling me for a tip - which is what they will do pretty much anywhere in north Jakarta.

As far as starfish sex, that's a definite possibility at many of these places, and I have definitely had that happen at Malioboro in the past. Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel are the worst for starfish sex, but Malioboro is also a place that it happens a lot. I have always had good sessions at Alexis though. But Alexis is way off in the boondocks and expensive, so I don't go there so often. I've visited Malioboro over 100 times and I have had many very good sessions there as well as some bad ones. I'd say about 8 out of 10 times I have had good experiences there. At Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel, 8 out of 10 times I have a shitty starfish experience.

I would never recommend taking 2 girls at Malioboro, Hotel Classic or Hotel Travel. Taking 2 always seems to cause the girls to perform worse. If you want 2 girls in Jakarta, Maribaya at Hotel Melawai and Kartika near Malioboro are the only 2 guaranteed good sessions. But the girls there are not the youngest or most beautiful. I still would recommend a threesome at those places over 2 younger girls in a bad session at Malioboro, Classic or Travel.

Looking forward to the pics of the BATS chicks! I was there the other night and the talent was excellent.

[QUOTE=Juggernutt;1945048]Koperenklaas: block m you mean nightlife area or the malls to meet them?

Can't remember being there after idulnfitri.[/QUOTE]I was referring to Jalan Felatehan in Blok M. Try some of the bars there after Idul Fitri.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;1944597]In the supermarkets like Hero etc. Regards, Ko.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will try to find one. Beer at the hotel is expensive plus 21%. Luckily I brought some Jack the with me.

[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1944875]Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms![/QUOTE]That sucks about the 2 girls and the tipping BS. If you want to 2 girls try at Classic. Much cheaper. It's either 525 or 550 for the two. So if they suck, you don't lose much. Another place is Maribaya in Hotel Melawi.

I usually take my own condoms with me when I travel. No need to use small Asian condoms. And no need to have to pay for them at the place either.

They do sometimes add stuff on your bill. They tried to add condoms on my bill at Malioboro in the last too. I said no, I didn't take them. They tried to argue and I said no. And I showed them I have my OWN condoms. All that extra BS for nothing. Regarding tips. No need to tip. If the girl gives great service, I like to tip them. If they give lazy service, no tip. No need to tip the hallway staff either or anyone else. Just walk away.

Have fun on the rest of your trip. It will get better.

I went to CJ last night, deciding to skip Malioboro after reading the negative report experienced by one of our ISGer. Since I have never been to CJ, I thought why not give it try and check out the joint. Anyway, a trip through South Jakarta around 8 pm still required a good 30 minutes from my hotel.

Note that CJ does not open until 9 PM, and there's a cover charge of 200 K rupiah for a drink (beer selection mostly) to enter. A few minutes after entering the bar, there began a slow stream of girls coming in. I was sitting right in the middle of the island drinking my first bottle, and each girl that passed through would passively looked at me to gauge my interest. Some of them would say Hi. Nonetheless, the night was still young, and I was not willing to tie myself down with anyone yet, until I was able to survey the complete inventory. The stream of girls coming into the bar started to pick up quickly after 10 PM. There's more girls than guys that night, and I did find many of them looking pretty good looking. I was able to strike up conversations with fellow hobbyists (I guess all guys are hobbyists at that point LOL) in the bar to try to get more information of the rate etc. I was told that the going rate is anywhere between 1 to 1.5 mil, though some may start with 2 mil, but you can always negotiate with them.

Anyway, I find the girls to be relatively passive, and they would wait for your initiation before they approach you. Having surveyed the layout of the land, I finally found a girl that I like and initiated conversation. I asked if she might have a friend where I can bring back to my hotel for a threesome. Maybe not a good idea, since she pulled in a friend that was on the heavier side. I should have said no to her friend but decided to let it slide. Anyway, we went back to my hotel with both them. Their performance was right along the line that I expected. I was actually surprised that they were more than willing to kiss each other on the lips, breasts, more importantly lick on each other's pussies, and at least pretended to enjoy it. The unfortunate part of the experience was that their bodies were much flabbier that expected, especially the heavier girl. In addition, given their higher mileage, I took precaution to cover myself up, including BJ, to reduce exposure. The sex was good with the slimmer girl, and she stayed till next morning where she had to leave early for her day job. I sent the heavier set girl home after the first pop.

So far, my first experience at CJ have been positive, and I may go back again for another round before leaving Jakarta. I was also told by a fellow hobbyist to check out MO bar at Oriental Mandarin given that Wednesday is ladies night, and you would expect more ladies to appear. If time permits, I may do just that.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1945188] If you want to 2 girls try at Classic. Much cheaper. It's either 525 or 550 for the two. So if they suck, you don't lose much. [/QUOTE]As cheap as that deal is, I still wouldn't recommend it. I've tried it 3 times there, every time a disaster. As tempting as the cheap double up price may seem, I only recommend taking one girl when at Classic. Then again, even with one girl the chance of a starfish at Classic is high.

The difference in service between Classic and Maribaya is unbelievably drastic. The Maribaya girls (although normally older and less attractive) will screw your brains out if you take 2 girls. The Classic girls will just be even more starfish with 2 girls in the room than they are with one.

Malioboro over rated and not worth the expense. I have never had a star fish experience at Classic. Always had a wonderful experiences there. I think it just comes down to how you treat the women. Treat them like no bodies, expect a start fish experience. Treat them with respect, good chance you'll get a great time.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1945246]Malioboro over rated and not worth the expense. I have never had a star fish experience at Classic. Always had a wonderful experiences there. I think it just comes down to how you treat the women. Treat them like no bodies, expect a start fish experience. Treat them with respect, good chance you'll get a great time.[/QUOTE]Ya, I must treat the girls like no bodies while I am at Hotel Classic, but treat the girls with respect at all the other places where I get great service. Good call. Why didn't I think of that? And here I thought I always treated them great everywhere. My mistake.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1945246]Malioboro over rated and not worth the expense. I have never had a star fish experience at Classic. Always had a wonderful experiences there. I think it just comes down to how you treat the women. Treat them like no bodies, expect a start fish experience. Treat them with respect, good chance you'll get a great time.[/QUOTE]I agree. On my previous trip to Classic I had 3 girls with decent service at Classic 2 (two girls got tips, the third didn't let me take a picture), and 1 very good girl at Classic 5 (that one earned a nice tip). Now on this trip, I had one really good girl so far there. She gave a serious BBBJ, multiple positions, and let me take photos afterwards. Great girl with a sexy ass body. She was supposed to come over the next day before work, but was a no-show. I figure they all have a 50/50 chance of not coming through. No sweat though since there are tons of options. In fact, I saw about 7-9 girls that I liked in Classic 2. I will be back.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1740601]I think Classic is mainly geared towards local Indo Mongers, who prefer cheap prices and the quick "wham-bam" approach[/QUOTE]Seems a contradiction.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1945264]Ya, I must treat the girls like no bodies while I am at Hotel Classic, but treat the girls with respect at all the other places where I get great service. Good call. Why didn't I think of that? And here I thought I always treated them great everywhere. My mistake.[/QUOTE]No problem Smoothy, we all have good days and bad days. Smoothy is a big contributor to the Indonesia thread and his contributions are appreciated. But, don't you pay a lot more money at other places and women are attracted by the scent of money?