Manila

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1436627]Haha I wear flip flops to and I've tried the prostitute thing a few times but to me it did not feel the same when I came.[/QUOTE]OK, next time I will remove the flip flops before I come. I'm always ready to try something new!

For the guys having trouble with date in Asia. Just don't use date in Asia.

I mean while you are sitting at home dreaming of what is to come you might as well try and get some lined up, but make sure your conversation is heading in the right way and the girl knows what you are looking for.

But if you don't have any really good looking girls who have made it clear they want to have some fun with you then don't bother wasting your time just head to Manila Bay cafe or some bar in EDSA or Burgos where both you and the girl no what the eventual ending of the night is going to be.

I'm not sure why guys here use DIA for P4P, if you are going to pay for it anyways might as well not waste your time on something that isn't a guaranteed success and see the girl in person first to make sure she is as good as she looks.

My goal with DIA is to find non pros that want to have fun with a foreigner but are to shy to go out to bars and meet one, that aren't into P4P at all and would get offended if you offer them money, and are just looking for the same thing I am.

They aren't easy to find and you got to talk to 100s of them, but I have time to kill and I'm sure many of the guys waiting for their PI trip to get here do to.

[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood;1436682]They aren't easy to find and you got to talk to 100s of them, [B]but I have time to kill and [/B]I'm sure many of the guys waiting for their PI trip to get here do to.[/QUOTE]That's the key, says me. Unless you are, at my age of early 40's, very attractive. Or you are in late 40's and evoke the kind of Curiosity you can only see from pinay, like "I just wanted to be with a foreigner. For a change " curiosity (read. Screw a foreigner to see if they have a different dick. Etc. Etc.)

One of the funny things that happened to me was, years ago, met a young nursing student girl who had landed in Singapore, and been royally monopolised by the sailors who frequent Lucky Plaza. And I was the first non-pinoy who took her out. With her elder sister.

Once we reached the hotel, while the elder sister was all business in kissing and getting things going, the younger sister was keenly looking at my dick, and for a moment I thought she will look for a magnifying glass and again I thought if she was doing the thai-style 'inspection for safety' thingy.

Turned out she was really inspecting my dick, as she hasn't seen a non-pinoy dick. And she was tasting it with the tip of her tongue, like a child tests a new sweet.

Ah, the joy of being with Pinays.

[QUOTE=Gajith; 1436378]Thanks! This is interesting. I know different country girls has different attitudes and in Phil seems like they are all behind money or try to secure their rest of the life by getting a foreigner. Even the 18 YO little girl expands her preferred partner age to 80 LOLz.

In this scenario, I think your advise may work here since most girls are open for a wide age range.[/QUOTE]I think you misread their vibes wrongly.

Not all pinays are after foreigners or money.

I had a pinay reject a guy from Sub-continent when he tried to be too arrogant, and he pulled out a crispy 1,000 $ note and still she said "NO". Yes, Singapore has 1,000 $ notes.

Their preference for 'foreigners' has a ranking= Americans first, regardless of age, other Caucasian, age maybe overlooked, and then comes the Japanes / Koreans and then all others.

Though, Pinoys may move to the top of the list, if the girl, even when she is living overseas and married, have a craving for 'native food'.

Been there, seen that. And know enough pinays. And even when they have been happily married to Canos, I know dozens who say their legs go jelly when a pinoy guy sweet talks them.

And again, there are parts of PH, where they see girl children as ticket out of poverty, though there are total opposites, and opposites don't send their kids to work in bars, knowing what happens in bars but hide it saying they are only talking to customers and making money on drinks. Etc. Etc.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1436122]If they want to go shopping, tell them "after". Every Filipina knows what "after" means.[/QUOTE]I would beg to disagree.

I know a fair amount of pinays, outside bars and dating sites. And I shamelessly told them what we do next, it worked, and when I gave hints or tried by best. In implying the obvious it didn't work.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1436122]2 hours later I walk past Starbucks in GB and the guy and his girl are still there talking and guys looking at his watch.

I think the analogy is clear.[/QUOTE]Maybe the guy did come over for a cultural exchange?

I have good friends in PH, and sometimes sex is not the only thing in our mind when we meet. So we may kill time talking about other stuff. And 9 out of 10 times it is not my money going into buying the coffee.

Yes, I know this is a monger site. LOL.

[QUOTE=Gajith;1435581]Yeah I understand. Since I am not a native speaker of English, I always use 'please' if I ask something and I consider without please is rude.[/QUOTE]Actually, pinays don't like to be ordered or given instructions. Trust me on that.

As I quoted before, I have been rebuked by some hookers, in bars, and these know me, when I tell them to come over to my table, since it is not gentlemanly to ask a lady to go over to a guy's table, vs the guy going to her table. Forget the logic that she was sitting alone vs me and a couple of friends.

Pinays like to be treated lady like, and even when you pay them, treat them nice, go get good work.

From my experience screwing pinays, working and non-working, I never had any who did what you describe. The only ones who did that to me are PRC hookers in Singapore, who will be all over you to close the deal and once in the room, will turn mercenery.

Again, it pays a lot to be nice to pinays. And not in a racial way, but, generally, that's one reason even the oldest caucasian gets to three-hole and do all stuff to a pinay, and the pinay doesn't bother. Vs Asians or South Asians being looked at like they are dangerous animals, atleast until they get to know you and find you don't follow the stereotypical impression that South Asians don't know how to treat a lady.

If at all you have doubt, I am not a caucasian, but once I made enough friends, I know what works and what doesn't.

And hence, even when I get frustrated dealing with girls who say they will come over at 6 pm but turn up at 10 pm. I know not to show my anger because it will be taken as "you don't know how to treat a girl. ' stuff. .

For that matter, I even have had hookers stay over free. Since they 'liked' me Vs turning mercenery.

And to the threat "I will kill you" etc. Etc. You need to take it with a pinch of salt, though sometimes, it may turn true, as, after all, in PH, murderers can roam free due to their law, and you don't need a top lawyer to get away with it.

Over and out.

Hey guys,

I have read a lot in different forums about the Manila's entertaintments and massage parlors. Someone mentioned Flight 168 in this thread.

Can anyone explain me what can I expect from those parlors? I mean if somebody can share with their experience about some known good quality parlors such as Flight 168, PSP, Kremlin or any others? Good to know the prices as well. Do I need to discuss with the girl of extra possibilities such as BBBJ, anal, water games. Is it possible to have 4 hand massage with Trike continue? How to get clear about this?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1436778]Actually, pinays don't like to be ordered or given instructions. Trust me on that.

Pinays like to be treated lady like, and even when you pay them, treat them nice, go get good work.

Again, it pays a lot to be nice to pinays.

And to the threat "I will kill you" etc. Etc. You need to take it with a pinch of salt, though sometimes, it may turn true, as, after all, in PH, murderers can roam free due to their law, and you don't need a top lawyer to get away with it.

Over and out.[/QUOTE]ET,

Some girls love being ordered around trust me on this. And search the PG for proof LOL.

All like to be treated like a lady (even those into the very naugthy BDSM stuff. Well after of course LOL) and being respectful, not being a cheap Charlie is a good characteristic IMHO.

As a friend told me "life is cheap in the Philippines" and he said it does not take much to have someone disappear so sometimes pays to know more about the girls relatives etc.

I am planning on a trip to Manila in July. I have read many posts. Since I like all ages, shapes, etc, I wondered in the mature late 40's. 50's pinays drop panties like the younger ones. Any info would be appreciated!

[QUOTE=George03;1437829]I am planning on a trip to Manila in July. I have read many posts. Since I like all ages, shapes, etc, I wondered in the mature late 40's. 50's pinays drop panties like the younger ones. Any info would be appreciated![/QUOTE]I've seen many questions posted here over the years to which the standard RTFF aplies. But this is a totalyl new question. I think that its probably a great niche market in which you might be very succesful Just the other day I got a message from a chat site lady who said " I know what you are looking for, I'm ready to give you it ". She was 51.

I think with some clever chatting you could open a whole treasure trove of older but still horny ladies. If wrinkles are your thing, then you should have a great time. Oldest I've done was 44.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1437194]ET,

Some girls love being ordered around trust me on this. And search the PG for proof LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, my point is, especially for newbies, they should learn their sea legs before deciding to do a devil dance on board. When there is gale force winds.

[QUOTE]All like to be treated like a lady (even those into the very naugthy BDSM stuff. Well after of course LOL) and being respectful, not being a cheap Charlie is a good characteristic IMHO.[/QUOTE]Exactly.

[QUOTE]As a friend told me "life is cheap in the Philippines" and he said it does not take much to have someone disappear so sometimes pays to know more about the girls relatives etc.[/QUOTE]And recently another guy got wiped out of this world, for a mere few thousand pesos, actually for refusing to 'lend' out money to his helper. Who already owed this guy much more. And the fact that in PH, lend / loan means. Give without expecting to work. And the guy trying to reason with the kid ended up in my friend simply being 'wiped out' problem solved, no more new loans and no more need to pay back past loans. And the kid was just 19 or so. And well, I am already running a bet that the kid will never be prosecuted with the Mugindanao cases haven't been come to proper court per-se, do the DOJ have time to investigate the death of a foreigner who was 'possibly involved in dubious business transactions. '. See how the case has already been decided with the last accusation.

I have had good success with the dating sites with forty to mid forty year olds. Some who are divorced or separated and have had children, and some who have never been married and who have not had children.

To avoid FF's concern about wrinkles. Use the cam and chat programs. There are some very well preserved ladies in this age group, but many more who are not. My best results have been on Filipino Cupid as the ladies post several pictures which gives you a better idea of what you are in for before you get into a conversation, but I have also had success on DIA.

The older ladies take a bit more time, but they know the drill and are very passionate. I have never had one in this age group not show up once they are clear on when and why we are meeting. In one of my previous posts I talked about a lady who I had never met other than online, but who paid her own airfare from Cagayan de Oro to Cebu to spend a weekend at a resort with me. I reimbursed her airfare at the end of the weekend. I am also very clear that this is their wild get away weekend but at the end of the weekend we each go our own way and there will be no marriage proposal.

My only other piece of advise is to look for educated professional ladies if your looking for any ability to carry on a conversation.

[quote=george03;1437829]i am planning on a trip to manila in july. i have read many posts. since i like all ages, shapes, etc, i wondered in the mature late 40's. 50's pinays drop panties like the younger ones. any info would be appreciated![/quote]from my experiences chating 40 year olds in websites and meeting woman over 40 in manila + cebu + bacolod city. i say a big yes!

the more qualified members can give you more specific examples. but many 40 plus age ladies have the same needs (economic + social) as the younger ones.

one lady i met. age 43 (3 teenage sons). was willing to return to my resort hotel to give the gfe for as long as i wanted . she needed help to keep her kids in school.

secondly, there are the older ones who are fed up with the pinoys wanting just to play games."use" the woman but are cheap charlies.

they looking for a serious guy with benefits. there are the older ones who have good jobs but at their age cannot find anyone on their educational / social level who is available.

they will take you in. maybe put you up at their beach condo in boracay! hahahahah. s.

many of the older woman are more desperate for love / affection because they have too much competition from the young ones. they are realistic and more open minded.

so in conclusion. yes. 40 plus plus are easily available.

they only problema is that hard to find the ones who have aged well and not gain 50kg. the weather can really beat up the filipina.

so look for the professional educated types. managers, realestate agents and such.

if you don't mind a widow or a woman with 3 to 5 near adult kids then go for it.

one other thing. i like finding an older woman who has a daughter who is 18 to 21 to make a 3some. it can happen.

i am sure some members out there hae experienced a mother / daughter combo.

the closest i got to it was a sister / sister combo + two cousin combo but i still like to have mother daughter 45 year old woman with 20 year old daughter. perfect.

one last comment. i found the age group 28 to 38 as a very hard core group. they are harder to crack . meaning. in my view more woman in this age group are looking for marriage. live in partner. serious relationship. not being a weekend gf.

not all! _ i am saying i see more woman in this group are harder to catch. not impossible just a little harder than **** 25 group and over 40 group.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1437905]I've seen many questions posted here over the years to which the standard RTFF aplies. But this is a totalyl new question. I think that its probably a great niche market in which you might be very succesful Just the other day I got a message from a chat site lady who said " I know what you are looking for, I'm ready to give you it ". She was 51.

I think with some clever chatting you could open a whole treasure trove of older but still horny ladies. If wrinkles are your thing, then you should have a great time. Oldest I've done was 44.[/QUOTE]Some good replies, for FreebieFan, I would be looking for the well preserved type. It seems from some of the replies, as I expected, the more educated and well off can stake care of themselves. I find in the US many Asian women who looking very good into their 50's. Anyway, looking forward to the trip!

Anybody interested in buying 2 oraquick hiv test kits. Looks like I'll be leaving with 2 kits left over. No mark up except a can of SM. PM me.

[QUOTE=MangoBob68; 1437928].

One other thing. I like finding an older woman who has a daughter who is 18 to 21 to make a 3some. It can happen.

I am sure some members out there hae experienced a mother / daughter combo.

The closest I got to it was a sister / sister combo + two cousin combo but I still like to have mother daughter 45 year old woman with 20 year old daughter. Perfect.[/QUOTE]I don't have a bagful of morals but the idea of having sex with a mother and then her daughter is just weird weird weird. Cousins ok, as its quite normal, but mother daughter crosses my line. What kind of a mother wants to do that with her daughter?