General Reports

[QUOTE=Sammon]Young children do not have any prejudices till life teaches them otherwise or bigot parents do it.
Yes, Thai people really love their country. I was in the movie theater with my GF. As usual everybody stands up when they show the king thing.
I am an american and will not stand for any king real or imagined.
My gf argued with me all the way home.[/QUOTE]

Sammon: I respectfully disagree. No flame intended but:

If your Thai GF went with you to a ballgame stateside, and they played Star Spangled Banner and she refused to stand, you'd be ok with that? :( :(

Or better yet, picture this: you're in Seattle for a Mariner's game and the Star Spangled Banner is played, and all the japanese visitors wanting to see Ichiro play remain seated, what would go through YOUR mind....be truthful!


When in Rome, do as the Romans do -- at least to show respect to your host country.

I think that you have come pretty close to nailing this. A lot of people put down the irrational acts of Thais to face issues, and sometimes that describes it. But the reason that face is so prominent, is the overall emotional immaturity of the majority of Thais.

Like you say, in the Thai press there are scores of daily examples of Thai people losing it over the smallest things. My favorite was the motorcycle taxi driver who agreed with his friends to bump up the fare when the oil price jumped. Then, he did not implement what he agreed with them, and they teased him a bit, saying, "Does your father own a gas station, or what?" He went home, got a gun, came back and shot his too friends. Killed a guy aged 26 and a girl 27 because he could not handle a slight teasing from his friends.

Periodically, the press will publish some new statistics from the national testing students here go through. IQ issues are really big, but they are also often talking about EQ, or emotional maturity. The popluation here has some huge issues with regard to emotional maturity, and many of the bizarre reactions of the people, often male, and often under 24, have a lot to do with this social problem. The gang wars between technical schools that are so prevalent are a symptom of this problem.

I would also agree that few Thais like foreigners. Everyone should be careful when you come across a Thai person with both sets of issues (EQ problems and anti-foreigner sentiment). Leave the scene quietly.

[QUOTE=Sammon]Young children do not have any prejudices till life teaches them otherwise or bigot parents do it.
Yes, Thai people really love their country. I was in the movie theater with my GF. As usual everybody stands up when they show the king thing.
I am an american and will not stand for any king real or imagined.
My gf argued with me all the way home.[/QUOTE]
The Thai King is one of the most revered Regents in History. Not because he is King but because of the great man he is. He is far superior to your President.

If you can't show some respect for the Thai ways, stay home.
I am sure you have lost much respect from your GF.

To enjoy Thailand we must try to fit in. This is not always easy but worth striving for. I must strive to be polite even when people annoy me, because its Thai to maintain good manners.

[quote=mick licker]the thai king is one of the most revered regents in history. not because he is king but because of the great man he is. he is far superior to your president.[/quote]

boy, you talk about setting a low bar. i should certainly hope the guy is far superior to our president. do you realize how many dregs we had to scrape from the bottom of old barrels to get our current president?

Sammon,

You being an American I assume that you have been to a ballgame like Football, Basketball, Baseball, etc... Do you stand up and take off your hat when the national anthem is played? Do you get mad when others don't or leave their hats on or backward?

Would it kill you to do what the locals do or are you one of those Americans that is so arrogrant that they think they can do no wrong! Maybe that's why we are still in Iraq!

Are you in Thailand to enjoy yourself and have a good time or are you there for political reasons? I met a American fellas who lives near me and found out that he hates Thai food, music, movies, and likes to beat his wife and now won't even support his own son. I ask myself WTF is he doing in Thailand and WTF is she staying around for?

I suspect your GF, after your disagreement won't be around long unless she see a pot at the end of the rainbow.

Just my 2 cents on your disrepect of the King.

LBM

[QUOTE=Daddy07]I think maybe the Thais dislike only those foreigners who have access to all the generals, beautiful girls, and high salaried teaching positions in the kingdom. :)[/QUOTE]

It was funnier when Duniawala said it.

False:There are 1,000 generals in the Thai army. I only know about half of them. Most of them dislike foreigners, except me. Only about 250 dislike me.

True: I do have access to the most beautiful girls, and they too dislike most foreigners, but love me...I'm the exception because I'm "jai dee and op oon".

True: I do have access to the highest salaried teaching positions, which makes Thai professors jealous and dislike most foreigners.

:) ;) :)

Interesting Discussions.

So who's got the bigger dick? LOL

In my short (2.5 years) living in Thailand, I have come to the conclusion (or assumption) that Thai people (Male or Female) don't necessarily "care" about us foreigners that much as long as we don't interfere in their everyday life. They will be very nice and go out of their way to help if we are nice to them.

It is funny how a simple smile can turn a difficult situation into a positive one.

[QUOTE=Sammon].....
Yes, Thai people really love their country. I was in the movie theater with my GF. As usual everybody stands up when they show the king thing.
I am an american and will not stand for any king real or imagined.
My gf argued with me all the way home.[/QUOTE]

Right she is and I think you lost your face.
It's definitely you who are lacking respect for the country you visit.

When I am in a foreign country and people stand up if they play the national hymn I stand up as well, regardless which country it is and regardless if I like the leader. This includes Stars and Stripes.

It is unfortunately your type of American arrogant behave which draws the picture of Americans around the world to the dislike of your American fellow mongers. Even if there are 100 nice other well educated Americans on each of you ignorant type, it’s the few of you who make people's mind of Americans globally (supported by your current president and his administration of course).

Stay home dude and let the nice ones of your country who can show a little respect come here.

Regards

Brain666

When in Rome... yes I agree. This does not mean that I have to like all things around me. Yes, I will do my best not to offend. That is standard courtesy.

But after all, I am a global citizen. I lived all over the world and as such my internal believes and attitude stand in sharp contrast to Thai values. Yes, Thai's can surely be the sweetest people. But the naivity people display to social, cultural and economic issues is just mind blowing at times.

For me this means to keep my mouth shut. And by god, am I tempted to just speak my mind at times. But why try, there is nothing to gain, other then trouble.

JB


[QUOTE=Mick Licker]The Thai King is one of the most revered Regents in History. Not because he is King but because of the great man he is. He is far superior to your President.

If you can't show some respect for the Thai ways, stay home.
I am sure you have lost much respect from your GF.

To enjoy Thailand we must try to fit in. This is not always easy but worth striving for. I must strive to be polite even when people annoy me, because its Thai to maintain good manners.[/QUOTE]

She's sorry she does not have all the power she use to when she lived in the west. Her life now is like mine has always been.

She talks about the typical sex pat as being fat, bald, old men being used by Thai Isaan girls for their money. First off she doesn't want men to be able to have this choice. They should only be able to pursue comparable western women on these women's terms. Second men that go this route and are used like that just shows me how desperate they are for affection. No doubt from a lifetime of dealing with western women. Third, she doesn't think women are using men for money in the west! How absurd! Money is one of the main factors in choosing men everywhere including the west, maybe especially the west. She just can't recognize it.

I tried to comment but apparently she is taking no more. I said I was tired of western women but would be willing for a relationship it just has to be on my terms now, not theirs. Show me what you are going to do for me. Impress me. Woo me. If they don't I have choices. I can have short time p4p in numerous countries in the world or I if I wanted something long term there are women in the Philippines that would stand in line to marry me right now. Choices the likes of her don't want me to have.

They hate us having alternatives. Be prepared for a lot more of women like her in the future. You're going to hear every lie in the world to curtail our freedoms. Just like whats been done in the west.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]In fact, very few Thais like foreigners.[/QUOTE]

Do you blame them? Look at the way we act in their country, e.g., refusing to stand at the National Anthem in a theatre; getting drunk and making fools of ourselves on Sukhumvit, Patpong, Soi Cowboy, etc.

Would we accept this kind of behaivor from foreigners in our own country? I think not.

[QUOTE=Fred C Dobbs]She's sorry she does not have all the power she use to when she lived in the west. Her life now is like mine has always been.

She talks about the typical sex pat as being fat, bald, old men being used by Thai Isaan girls for their money. First off she doesn't want men to be able to have this choice. They should only be able to pursue comparable western women on these women's terms. Second men that go this route and are used like that just shows me how desperate they are for affection. No doubt from a lifetime of dealing with western women. Third, she doesn't think women are using men for money in the west! How absurd! Money is one of the main factors in choosing men everywhere including the west, maybe especially the west. She just can't recognize it.

I tried to comment but apparently she is taking no more. I said I was tired of western women but would be willing for a relationship it just has to be on my terms now, not theirs. Show me what you are going to do for me. Impress me. Woo me. If they don't I have choices. I can have short time p4p in numerous countries in the world or I if I wanted something long term there are women in the Philippines that would stand in line to marry me right now. Choices the likes of her don't want me to have.

They hate us having alternatives. Be prepared for a lot more of women like her in the future. You're going to hear every lie in the world to curtail our freedoms. Just like whats been done in the west.[/QUOTE]

Ha Ha I have to say this time.
She is now at the very end of the pussy priority and notifies that, but doesn't seem to be willing to compromise yet. She may need a couple of more years still, but I guess she will go back and complain and complain and complain and try to enforce the home law that f....ng a foreign woman will be penalized by law (for being abusive).

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Retired Army]Do you blame them? Look at the way we act in their country, e.g., refusing to stand at the National Anthem in a theatre; getting drunk and making fools of ourselves on Sukhumvit, Patpong, Soi Cowboy, etc.

Would we accept this kind of behaivor from foreigners in our own country? I think not.[/QUOTE]

You obviously have never lived in the UK!

My friend's tirak(Burmese) always has to go back to Mae Sai to make Identification card(IC). I think one year 2-3 times.

Actually they go back to extend or make a new one? Is this called temporary IC? How this works? When they can have a permanent IC?

Can any Bro who knows that help to answer these? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Petemcc]You obviously have never lived in the UK![/QUOTE]
No, I haven't. Only traveled through Heathrow and that was enough.