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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2423498]Now who is dying? The old, the immunocompromised? That makes a huge difference. [/QUOTE]Last time I saw stats for this it said 80% of those who died were over 60 years old. 75% had pre-existing conditions like diabetes or heart disease.

[QUOTE=RojerAims1;2423663]I was contemplating Patong with the hopes of meeting other vacationers (in addition to its decent mongering opportunities). Any other places I should look at? I can't imagine meeting nonpros in Pattaya, for example.[/QUOTE]Why can't you meet a non pro in Pattaya? Who misinformed you and told you every single girl in Pattaya was a hooker? I met my girlfriend in Pattaya and she was a non pro.

My friend who is a good looking Japanese American in his early 30's picked up a hot young non pro Russian tourist in Pratumnak Hill.

I'd recommend Khaosan Road in Bangkok as one of the better places to pick up drunk Farang tourists. The Full Moon parties would be another place.

You would meet non pros in the same types of places you would meet non pros in your home country. If you're successful at picking up civilian girls in your home country you'll be successful while on vacation.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2423836]Last time I saw stats for this it said 80% of those who died were over 60 years old. 75% had pre-existing conditions like diabetes or heart disease.

[/QUOTE]Just friendly remind you that there are people who were healthy and young and died with this disease. Just t be careful as it is a serious disease and a lot worse than flu.

Stay safe.

Jb.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2423459]I don't deal in fake news or rumors. I review the information with a touch of doubt and do not state information that does not have a strong factual basis.

backing up the "smog" created by the cremations, a UK news organization raised this issue recently. See: [URL]https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1240523/Coronavirus-satellite-image-scale-of-coronavirus-outbreak-infections-coronavirus-cremation[/URL] Additionally, the most recent CNBC report should be of interest as well: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf9a_I5kCDk[/URL].[/QUOTE]The news you're quoting about these so called satellite measures has already been proved fake. Yet you choose to quote it deliberatly.

People like you spreading lies to worry others is an illness which affects this planet far worse than this virus.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/13/debunked-this-images-doesn-t-show-extent-of-corpse-burning-in-wuhan

[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;2423855]The news you're quoting about these so called satellite measures has already been proved fake. Yet you choose to quote it deliberatly.

People like you spreading lies to worry others is an illness which affects this planet far worse than this virus.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/02/13/debunked-this-images-doesn-t-show-extent-of-corpse-burning-in-wuhan[/QUOTE]

You can choose what you want to believe and I will look at what information I can find that has a semblance of fact. The CNBC story is substantive and the question raised at the CDC press conference is on the record by a valid news organization granted press credentials by the CDC, so I don't think any of the statements made were false or lies as you chose to accuse me of.

If you claim any of the "smog" facts were "disproven", then please state your sources other than "Euronews" who is not a legitimate news organization that is unknown as a genuine news site. In fact, "Euronews" appears to be a purveyor of "fake news" that you claim I am promoting. Since I hit a nerve with you and whom ever you are fronting for (Xinhua?), I believe my statements must be closer to the truth than yours.

Last time I had visited Pattaya was on December'19.

And was completely looking forward to trip again in Feb next week.

However, I postponed my plans in Jan due to cornonavirus situation and thought by March timeline, it would be contained.

Damn virus is still at large, and I guess I will again be rescheduling my trip to April first week.

However, I'm still not sure whether by Apr timeline the virus would be contained.

I believe more in mathematical models of cornovirus than Thai government words and it says the number of infected people to be much higher than the reported 33 people.

In Thailand is the second most vulnerable country next to China with regards to coronavirus infections.

Maybe I should just postpone the Thai trip indefinitely and head over PP / Jarkarta.

[URL]https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/experts-warn-coronavirus-may-be-spreading-undetected-indonesia[/URL]

What are your views?

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2424098]You can choose what you want to believe and I will look at what information I can find that has a semblance of fact. The CNBC story is substantive and the question raised at the CDC press conference is on the record by a valid news organization granted press credentials by the CDC, so I don't think any of the statements made were false or lies as you chose to accuse me of.

If you claim any of the "smog" facts were "disproven", then please state your sources other than "Euronews" who is not a legitimate news organization that is unknown as a genuine news site. In fact, "Euronews" appears to be a purveyor of "fake news" that you claim I am promoting. Since I hit a nerve with you and whom ever you are fronting for (Xinhua?), I believe my statements must be closer to the truth than yours.[/QUOTE]A simple search reveals Euronews to be a legitimate organisation with NBC and European public broadcasters amongst the shareholders. You also used a daily express article as part of your claims. A news organisation about as reliable as the daily mail and if you read the express article it doesn't really say anything but rather poses bullshit questions which is par for the course for that rag of a publication.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2424098]You can choose what you want to believe and I will look at what information I can find that has a semblance of fact.

If you claim any of the "smog" facts were "disproven", then please state your sources other than "Euronews" who is not a legitimate news organization that is unknown as a genuine news site. In fact, "Euronews" appears to be a purveyor of "fake news" that you claim I am promoting. Since I hit a nerve with you and whom ever you are fronting for (Xinhua?), I believe my statements must be closer to the truth than yours.[/QUOTE]OMG are you for real? Did you even look at the copyright from the so called satellite images? They are tagged [URL]Windy.com[/URL].
Now go to [URL]Windy.com[/URL] twitter feed:

[URL]https://twitter.com/windyforecast/status/1228459766286102528[/URL]

They are the forcasting company who's images have been wrongly interpreted for what they are not. And they actually link themselves to the article I quoted.

You can also look at the english fact checking NGO:
[URL]https://fullfact.org/health/satellites-wuhan-sulphur-dioxide-coronavirus/[/URL]
There is even someone from the NASA explaining how the forecasting model works and how its not based on live data.

Stop taking us for idiots by spamming false news here. Not even sure how its related to Bangkok General reports to start with.

[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;2424222]OMG are you for real? Did you even look at the copyright from the so called satellite images? They are tagged [URL]Windy.com[/URL].
Now go to [URL]Windy.com[/URL] twitter feed:

[URL]https://twitter.com/windyforecast/status/1228459766286102528[/URL]

They are the forcasting company who's images have been wrongly interpreted for what they are not. And they actually link themselves to the article I quoted.

You can also look at the english fact checking NGO:
[URL]https://fullfact.org/health/satellites-wuhan-sulphur-dioxide-coronavirus/[/URL]
There is even someone from the NASA explaining how the forecasting model works and how its not based on live data.

Stop taking us for idiots by spamming false news here. Not even sure how its related to Bangkok General reports to start with.[/QUOTE]If you want to be argumentative and call me a "liar". You have that right. I don't claim or vouch for any website's accuracy as you do. I point out what I have found and the facts that are out there.

Your insistence on prolonging this "debate" and insistence on claiming everything I stated sounds like a persistent effort to discredit everything I write. Either you are psychotic and are in need of some help, or a front for the Chinese Communist Party or one of their official organs like Xinhua. I leave it to the readers to make up their own minds.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2424237]If you want to be argumentative and call me a "liar". You have that right. I don't claim or vouch for any website's accuracy as you do. I point out what I have found and the facts that are out there.

Your insistence on prolonging this "debate" and insistence on claiming everything I stated sounds like a persistent effort to discredit everything I write. Either you are psychotic and are in need of some help, or a front for the Chinese Communist Party or one of their official organs like Xinhua. I leave it to the readers to make up their own minds.[/QUOTE]Is covid19 a serious issue. Yes it is as mortality rate appears a lot higher than normal flu but nothing compared to SARS or the far more serious MERS but you are posting mega tin foil hat garbage I'm afraid. Anyone disagreeing works for Xi or is psychotic apparently. People should do their own research from legitimate sources and make their own minds up as to the risk. I was in Bangkok mid January and am back again for a week now. Far less face masks than I expected (except at the airport). I'm due to be in KL mid March if work allows me to fly as they are excessively HSE conscious due to the nature of the industry but only China is a definite no travel with no exception zone.

Here is an actual map of the spread of the virus [URL]https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html[/URL]#/ bda7594740 fd40299423467 b48 e9 ecf6.

Hey lads,

Do you know if it is possible to get a prepaid debit or similar in Thailand to spring for a Smooci Premium membership? I'm heading to Thailand in a couple days and want to get a membership (can't actually sign up for premium until I have a phone over there), but I don't want to pay with my regular debit or credit cards.

If anyone can offer me advice on how to sign up without using my real cards, I'd appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Sideshow01;2424319]Is covid19 a serious issue. Yes it is as mortality rate appears a lot higher than normal flu but nothing compared to SARS or the far more serious MERS but you are posting mega tin foil hat garbage I'm afraid. Anyone disagreeing works for Xi or is psychotic apparently. People should do their own research from legitimate sources and make their own minds up as to the risk. I was in Bangkok mid January and am back again for a week now. Far less face masks than I expected (except at the airport). I'm due to be in KL mid March if work allows me to fly as they are excessively HSE conscious due to the nature of the industry but only China is a definite no travel with no exception zone.

Here is an actual map of the spread of the virus [URL]https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html[/URL]#/ bda7594740 fd40299423467 b48 e9 ecf6.[/QUOTE]Far less masks? I just got out of Bangkok and was shocked to see at least 40% donning face masks.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2428108]Far less masks? I just got out of Bangkok and was shocked to see at least 40% donning face masks.[/QUOTE]Masks are sold out all over BKK.

[QUOTE=Marjun;2424116]Last time I had visited Pattaya was on December'19.

And was completely looking forward to trip again in Feb next week.

However, I postponed my plans in Jan due to cornonavirus situation and thought by March timeline, it would be contained.

Damn virus is still at large, and I guess I will again be rescheduling my trip to April first week.

However, I'm still not sure whether by Apr timeline the virus would be contained.

I believe more in mathematical models of cornovirus than Thai government words and it says the number of infected people to be much higher than the reported 33 people.

In Thailand is the second most vulnerable country next to China with regards to coronavirus infections.

Maybe I should just postpone the Thai trip indefinitely and head over PP / Jarkarta.[/QUOTE]I had booked my trip on Feb 20. After watching a lot of youtube videos of the scenario in Thailand o decided to postpone it. I am planning a trip in April. Hopefully due to the climate by then things should be back to normal. I just can't understand when the whole world is concerned about the virus how come tourists I Thailand are still enjoying freely in pubs and bars and discotheques. Also what scared me was what would happen if I get a freelancer to my room unknowing that she was infected. I'm damn sure the virus would spread thru contact.

I too am hoping for the best till April. Till then I am keeping a close watch of the situation thru posts and YouTube videos.

I guess we are on the same boat. If you would like to chat we me add me on wazzap.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2428108]Far less masks? I just got out of Bangkok and was shocked to see at least 40% donning face masks.[/QUOTE]I expected more I guess except in the bars / go-gos etc. Guess I wasn't clear.

[QUOTE]List of countries and territories at high risk of the Covid-19 infection: Japan, Germany, South Korea, China (including Hong Kong and Macau), Taiwan, France, Singapore, Italy, and Iran.

All returnees from these nations and territories must self-quarantine for 14 days, he said.

Ministerial announcements specify the following four measures for enforcement:

Visitors and Thai citizens returning from the high risk areas will be subject to 14-days home quarantine, even if they are cleared of the disease, unless they have permission from health officials.

Those who do not have a permanent residence or lodging in Thailand are required to show officials, upon arrival, evidence of where officials can locate them during the 14-day period.[/QUOTE]The final sentence is the big one for tourists. Read the link posted below if you are from one of the listed countries. Would suck to fly to Thailand only to be turned away to fly all the way back home.

Tourists will be required to show where they will be staying for 14 days after arrival. That would mean you will need to book your hotel for 14 days and not book an AirBNB since AirBNB is illegal in Thailand. If you really must use AirBNB in Thailand which I don't, you can book a hotel which has free cancellation, show Thai Immigration you are staying there, and then cancel your hotel. You do take the chance that somehow Thai immigration finds out you are not staying where you said you were and deports you with no return for 5 years on your record. Remember hotels are required to tell Thai Immigration when you check in and check out of their hotel. Imo best to be safe and stay in a hotel your next visit.

These new rules will affect myself since I was planning to do a FKK tour in Germany on my way to Bangkok. Now to get to Bangkok I will have to fly Germany to Jakarta, hobby in Jakarta for a week, then to Bangkok. Since Indonesia does not record the number of coronavirus cases it is a safe destination that will not be subject to the newly imposed Thailand quarantine. Vietnam, Philippines, and Cambodia appear to not report all their cases as well so those would be other options to fly in from. I'll predict that the USA will eventually make it on a Thailand quarantine list with their recent outbreak.

Source: [URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/new-anti-virus-measures-for-foreign-visitors-and-thais-returning-from-high-risk-areas/[/URL].