General Reports

Yesterday when heard that BKK bars & Go Go's are to be closed thanks to Wuhan I went ahead with my plan to postpone my April trip. It was not what I wanted, but you can't fight it when the odds are stacked up against you the way they are.

So after waiting on the phone for 90 minutes I finally got through to a travel representative from my CC rewards travel bureau. My United flight was purchased on points with a third party otherwise I could have just dealt with it online. The rep was very knowledgeable and professional, but it took him another 30 minutes to work out everything with United while I was puttering around in my backyard and watering my palm trees. But all is well now. I have a new round trip flight of less duration scheduled 6 months from now. I will receive a refund of approximately $150 representing the difference in the price United is assigning to the value of the flight even though I paid in points. So I am up $150 cash. In addition United is refunding the cost of my extended legroom seats that I paid for on the old flight, so I am free to purchase new extended legroom seats on the new flight. All good as far as United and I are concerned.

Next, I went to work on the 10 weeks of hotel reservations that I had made for my spring trip. Most of my hotels either allowed a straight change in dates or cancelation without any penalties. But I had a number of reservations involving hotel CC points and vouchers that required my time to reassign them with the help of a hotel agent. Again no real problems, getting through to the hotels by phone was easier and faster than arranging things with United. In fact a lot of my hotel choices are cheaper now so I will be saving money. Even the 2 or 3 hotels that I had a prepaid non cancelable booking allowed me to cancel and receive a full refund and/or reschedule. The only hotel that I am still having a problem with is the Mulia in Jakarta. I can cancel the reservation straight out without penalty, but the deal I have with them is so good that I really want to reschedule and keep the same price. But it can't be done over the internet so I have sent an email request to the hotel reservation department and I am waiting for their response.

So bottom line, all is well. My rescheduled trip is slightly better than the one I was planning to take in terms of it being overall a little cheaper and my new flight has less stops and a shorter duration. In addition, I decided to reward myself for all the corona BS by making my rescheduled trip 8 dalys longer. 555.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2435471]Yesterday when heard that BKK bars & Go Go's are to be closed thanks to Wuhan I went ahead with my plan to postpone my April trip. It was not what I wanted, but you can't fight it when the odds are stacked up against you the way they are.

So after waiting on the phone for 90 minutes I finally got through to a travel representative from my CC rewards travel bureau. My United flight was purchased on points with a third party otherwise I could have just dealt with it online. The rep was very knowledgeable and professional, but it took him another 30 minutes to work out everything with United while I was puttering around in my backyard and watering my palm trees. But all is well now. I have a new round trip flight of less duration scheduled 6 months from now. I will receive a refund of approximately $150 representing the difference in the price United is assigning to the value of the flight even though I paid in points. So I am up $150 cash. In addition United is refunding the cost of my extended legroom seats that I paid for on the old flight, so I am free to purchase new extended legroom seats on the new flight. All good as far as United and I are concerned.

Next, I went to work on the 10 weeks of hotel reservations that I had made for my spring trip. Most of my hotels either allowed a straight change in dates or cancelation without any penalties. But I had a number of reservations involving hotel CC points and vouchers that required my time to reassign them with the help of a hotel agent. Again no real problems, getting through to the hotels by phone was easier and faster than arranging things with United. In fact a lot of my hotel choices are cheaper now so I will be saving money. Even the 2 or 3 hotels that I had a prepaid non cancelable booking allowed me to cancel and receive a full refund and/or reschedule..[/QUOTE]Well Natty that is wonderful news. I was on tenterhooks hoping everything would work out for you. Hopefully this "corona bullshit' will miraculously disappear sometime soon but I worry it may just be a tad more serious than you think and your fall plans could be in disarray again. Hopefully not as I enjoy reading your chatty posts about how your universe is unfolding. Stay safe.

Hi.

Just read this article (see below) USA has now been put on the list to show Airlines 1) Health Certificate free of Convid-19 2) Health Insurance of 100,000.

Anybody from US traveling to Thailand in the next 2-3 weeks. Will you provide your airline with Health Certificate and insurance?

My flight is schedule for April 20th.

[URL]https://www.tatnews.org/2020/03/tat-update-thailand-public-health-ministry-updated-covid-19-control-measures-for-travellers/[/URL]

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Next, I went to work on the 10 weeks of hotel reservations that I had made for my spring trip. Most of my hotels either allowed a straight change in dates or cancelation without any penalties. But I had a number of reservations involving hotel CC points and vouchers that required my time to reassign them with the help of a hotel agent. Again no real problems, getting through to the hotels by phone was easier and faster than arranging things with United. In fact a lot of my hotel choices are cheaper now so I will be saving money. Even the 2 or 3 hotels that I had a prepaid non cancelable booking allowed me to cancel and receive a full refund and/or reschedule. The only hotel that I am still having a problem with is the Mulia in Jakarta. I can cancel the reservation straight out without penalty, but the deal I have with them is so good that I really want to reschedule and keep the same price. But it can't be done over the internet so I have sent an email request to the hotel reservation department and I am waiting for their response.

So bottom line, all is well. My rescheduled trip is slightly better than the one I was planning to take in terms of it being overall a little cheaper and my new flight has less stops and a shorter duration. In addition, I decided to reward myself for all the corona BS by making my rescheduled trip 8 dalys longer. 555.[/QUOTE]I lost close to $150 paid to one hotel in Bangkok. All the rest including airfare was refunded. Agoda would not even entertain discussion about refund from this hotel. They said it is impossible to get refund from them.

Philippine airlines was more than willing to refund in full my whole itenary although they have not cancelled any of the flights I booked.

Most disappointed are the girls waiting for me mostly for the remuneration money wise. One is a virgin she says. Not sure when I get the chance to pop her cherry if at all. Well, I still keep in contact on messenger with all the girls but will not shed a tear if they found somebody.

Have to go back to the drawing board whenever the next trip happens. Thought of quick trip Sosua to release my monger tensions but with this heightened problems of foreign travel in USA decided against it.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2435604]I lost close to $150 paid to one hotel in Bangkok. All the rest including airfare was refunded. Agoda would not even entertain discussion about refund from this hotel. They said it is impossible to get refund from them.

Philippine airlines was more than willing to refund in full my whole itenary although they have not cancelled any of the flights I booked.

Most disappointed are the girls waiting for me mostly for the remuneration money wise. One is a virgin she says. Not sure when I get the chance to pop her cherry if at all. Well, I still keep in contact on messenger with all the girls but will not shed a tear if they found somebody.

Have to go back to the drawing board whenever the next trip happens. Thought of quick trip Sosua to release my monger tensions but with this heightened problems of foreign travel in USA decided against it.[/QUOTE]Relax bro, now the condition is getting serious.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2435604]I lost close to $150 paid to one hotel in Bangkok. All the rest including airfare was refunded. Agoda would not even entertain discussion about refund from this hotel. They said it is impossible to get refund from them.[/QUOTE]I had a reservation at the Sofitel that Agoda said I could not cancel without full penalty, but I contacted the hotel and they agreed to change my reservation to a later date.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2435604]Most disappointed are the girls waiting for me mostly for the remuneration money wise. One is a virgin she says. Not sure when I get the chance to pop her cherry if at all. Well, I still keep in contact on messenger with all the girls but will not shed a tear if they found somebody.

Have to go back to the drawing board whenever the next trip happens. Thought of quick trip Sosua to release my monger tensions but with this heightened problems of foreign travel in USA decided against it.[/QUOTE]So far I have only told my top 3 favorite girls of my trip delay. They took it like champs. Each in their own way said: 1) miss you, 2) I am ok / take care of yourself, 3) see you in August, 4) miss you. I will get around to notifying my 2nd tier girls later.

I don't know much about virgins. I met a beautiful cherry girl in an AC bar many years back. We fooled around plenty in a booth so I was floored, as in devastated, when she told me she could not barfine and why. Your virgin will probably be a more experienced gal by the time you see her, ha ha, which is not a bad thing if you ask me.

As to alternative trips: I think this friggin' pandemic has gone too far for guys like us to think about taking a trip especially if it involves the airlines and airports. The whole world is in lock down mode except for some college kids enjoying their spring break here in sunny Florida. I don't blame them for not giving a fuck. They are young and immune more or less. I originally had Sao Paulo as my back up plan, but I think Sao Paulo is in a similar situation as BKK & MNL right now.

Hopefully this thing will pass in a couple of months or we are all fucked.

Visa run is not possible now as Thailand asking corona health certificate.

Gen Z gen why I am too sure what kids are called nowadays but they behave the same way we all did in out teens and twenties. Booze, weed, chemical, festivals, getting laid, it was the sixties, seventies man and we loved it. So it's a little hypocritical to decry their selfishness to day when many of them don't seem to give a shit about getting infected and passing it on. Absolutely no problem for themselves their immune system will see off the virus but it doesn't stop them getting it and passing it on to the more vulnerable. This is a highly contagious motherfucker and while responsibility and partying don't exactly go hand in hand they really should follow the guidelines for this summer break.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2428614]Pattaya is dead for mongering.

I also live there for 4 years now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2436069]What happens when Visa expired

Visa run is not possible now as Thailand asking corona health certificate.[/QUOTE]You advised me before you have lived in Pattaya for 4 years. Let me know which Visa type you are on and I can assist you. Thai Elite? O? OA? OX? B? R? EX?

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2436069]Visa run is not possible now as Thailand asking corona health certificate.[/QUOTE]Going next week to get an extension.

[URL]https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/phuket-immigration-offers-30-day-extensions-for-stranded-foreigners[/URL]

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2436111]Gen Z gen why I am too sure what kids are called nowadays but they behave the same way we all did in out teens and twenties. Booze, weed, chemical, festivals, getting laid, it was the sixties, seventies man and we loved it. So it's a little hypocritical to decry their selfishness to day when many of them don't seem to give a shit about getting infected and passing it on. Absolutely no problem for themselves their immune system will see off the virus but it doesn't stop them getting it and passing it on to the more vulnerable. This is a highly contagious motherfucker and while responsibility and partying don't exactly go hand in hand they really should follow the guidelines for this summer break.[/QUOTE]I am waiting for the reports of widespread illness and death of grandma and grandpa in the outlying Thai provinces.

They closed all the bars, massage shops and many of the regular restaurants in Bangkok. Venues where girls and workers who would most likely have interacted with tourists that could also be carriers. At least as probable an interaction as for Spring Breakers in Florida.

So guess where all those Thai girls and workers have gone now that their places of employment in Bangkok are closed. Yep. To their provinces to violate the Social Distance recommendations with grandma and grandpa.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2436404]So guess where all those Thai girls and workers have gone now that their places of employment in Bangkok are closed. Yep. To their provinces to violate the Social Distance recommendations with grandma and grandpa.[/QUOTE]And a lot of them are being put in quarantine. I just picked up a girl on Tinder that is in Pattaya. Long story but she works in Malaysia and came to Thailand to renew her passport. Her mom said if she comes to her hometown she will have to do 14 day quarantine at the temple.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2436404]I am waiting for the reports of widespread illness and death of grandma and grandpa in the outlying Thai provinces.

They closed all the bars, massage shops and many of the regular restaurants in Bangkok. Venues where girls and workers who would most likely have interacted with tourists that could also be carriers. At least as probable an interaction as for Spring Breakers in Florida.

So guess where all those Thai girls and workers have gone now that their places of employment in Bangkok are closed. Yep. To their provinces to violate the Social Distance recommendations with grandma and grandpa.[/QUOTE]Hopefully I'm wrong but with testing almost non existent outside Bangkok and here costing 6000 baht which puts it outside the reach of most people the incidences of infection are I feel grossly understated. We are already seeing in the daily numbers the beginning of the wave. How long before it crests and how we get by without restaurants and nightlife will be the challenge. Fortunately ET like yourself I have my little black book to keep me going but I will miss the outdoor strolls looking for the hidden gems.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2434687]Agree K. Its a respiratory illness which Ebola wasn't.

Death rate stats depend on the denominator used and asymptomatic infections are a big part of that. Agree as of now no doubt the common flu is more widespread and kills more people.

There is still a lot not known about then new virus but most experts believe it is more contagious and more lethal than the common flu. Ultimately total deaths depend on containment. Fortunately what we are living through will most probably limit the spread but an out of control contagion until the vaccine comes on line while I still believe is unlikely is nevertheless a scary proposition.

Stay well.[/QUOTE]Allegedly Chinese have the cure.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2436628]Hopefully I'm wrong but with testing almost non existent outside Bangkok and here costing 6000 baht which puts it outside the reach of most people the incidences of infection are I feel grossly understated. We are already seeing in the daily numbers the beginning of the wave. How long before it crests and how we get by without restaurants and nightlife will be the challenge. Fortunately ET like yourself I have my little black book to keep me going but I will miss the outdoor strolls looking for the hidden gems.[/QUOTE]Nope, you are not wrong. Figures quoted have to be greatly understated. Figures through much of SE Asia cannot be trusted.

On one extreme you have Italy with death numbers exceeding the number of cases recovered. Lack of testing of mild cases means their death rate could well be over stated.

A country with likely more realistic figures is Germany with capacity to test 160000 cases per week. This means most can be tested.

On other extreme we have Thailand which had reported just one Covid-19 death (when I checked). It is highly likely that not all dead persons are being tested for the virus.

Sudden deaths due to fevers in the country villages have long been common, precise cause not always known, exposure to contaminated water via an injury just one example.

So Thailand death rate due to this virus could well be greatly understated (not known). Its too expensive to test dead people. Who will pay? Old people are popping off all the time for one reason or another.

Thailand likely has little idea of true numbers of cases, whether mild or deaths or recoveries.

I know examples of persons recovered from bad cough and fever, yet exact type unknown.

Even if high heat and humidity is limiting the speed of spread of the virus in the air and from surfaces and then mainly from those breathing in the sneeze and cough spray of others close, it won't be decreasing the deadliness for those that catch it.

Learn to cook you guys, or buy prepared food and microwave zap it. I have long been able to survive without restaurants.

Always wise to have your regular contacts for a fuck, as long as they are definitely not sneezing or coughing and have no symptoms, its unlikely they will give you something.

Avoid getting faces too close to each other just in case. Getting a fuck is still realistic from a non emotional point of view.

Little point to enter Thailand only to go into quarantine.

Thai word for the day: Kak (sounds like Guk) means to be isolated or quarantined. "Kak dtun" or "Guk dtoon" on other hand means to hoard food, drink, or toilet paper etc. Many of us in Thailand of course don't need toilet paper, since we have the water spray guns.

It just so happens I have been having a holiday from mongering for a few months, so I probably won't break that just now. Not really relevant to the virus.