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[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1451933]Generally speaking I don't pay for sex (I have done it a few times in my life, but don't plan on partaking in Philippines).

My party budget includes cheap food and alcohol for the girls I meet and go on dates with.

Keep in mind I am 27.[/QUOTE]Calipro,

So you think all the women in PI want to fuck you for free even they don't ask for money it is a good idea to offer a small gift or some peso it is the right thing to do, if you can get freebie at home why even go to PI spend all that airfare cost.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Noddy; 1451991][url]Http://goo.gl/maps/lSQxL[/url]

Victory liner, Monumento, Caloocan city.

Board and buy ticket. 130p, have the correct fare or do not expect change.[/QUOTE]Noddy,

There are 2 major on in Metro Manila victory in Pasay at EDSA every 30 min go to DAU bus station, the other is PI Rabbit at Avienda bus station near St Cruz at Taft if you are in Malate is closer also stop in DAU and then AC bus station if you ask the bus driver to stop at field corner of McArthur HWY price is up high gas price is 175 p now.

Fast Eddie 48

For anyone that wants to read about how much of a fuckfest the Philippines and SEA can be have a look at these threads. Makes for some entertaining and envious reading. I'll be in Philippines for 2 months in December. Hoping to duplicate it!

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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1452224]To Calipro,

So you think all the women in PI want to fuck you for free even they don't ask for money it is a good idea to offer a small gift or some peso it is the right thing to do, if you can get freebie at home why even go to PI spend all that airfare cost.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]They fuck me for free because they are attracted to me and like me. (never said nothing about all women). Not even mentioning taking them out to eat and also clubbing. I have nothing against giving cab money and will make it a point to offer cab money in the morning (200-300p)

Why go to Philippines?

1) I don't like American women (not exotic, not simple, have a princess concept, etc)

2) American women require more work to bang (more money, time, and bs)

3) A good month in America will land a normal guy 1-5 notches. A good month in the Philippines will land a guy 15-30.

I actually work in Asia at the moment, so it costs peanuts to get to Philippines. My preferred hunting grounds are Latin America.

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1451933]Generally speaking I don't pay for sex (I have done it a few times in my life, but don't plan on partaking in Philippines).

My party budget includes cheap food and alcohol for the girls I meet and go on dates with.

Keep in mind I am 27.[/QUOTE]As my name would suggest, I'm generally playing in the freebie market too, but being a decent guy who gets a high number of repeats I will always slip a blue note into their bags or panties. Thats how the decent guys deal with this game.

If you offer them nothing, sadly you upset the market for the next Calipro who comes swagering into town looking for and expecting freebies.

How generous of you. I, myself would give them 20 php for a peditrike. You're a stand up guy by doing that. Kuripot. You don't realize that 1, 000 php can turn around a girl's life for a few days? Or are you just predatory? Yes, a real pro you are.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1452268]As my name would suggest, I'm generally playing in the freebie market too, but being a decent guy who gets a high number of repeats I will always slip a blue note into their bags or panties. Thats how the decent guys deal with this game.

If you offer them nothing, sadly you upset the market for the next Calipro who comes swagering into town looking for and expecting freebies.[/QUOTE]Don't be to quick to generalize and assume. I didn't offer my girls no money, and I still chat with them online every weeks and they can't wait for me to return. So I don't think I have upset anything. However, looking back I should have at least offered them cab money and will make it a point to do that on my return.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1452268]As my name would suggest, I'm generally playing in the freebie market too, but being a decent guy who gets a high number of repeats I will always slip a blue note into their bags or panties. Thats how the decent guys deal with this game.

If you offer them nothing, sadly you upset the market for the next Calipro who comes swagering into town looking for and expecting freebies.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately we had the same FRs when CaliPro was Tar Heel Bred. The same boasting and same cheap charlie kuripot attitude to girls so nothing will change his arrogant demeanor on this board despite many criticizing his lack of respect etc. As for his lack of success with US women maybe they see through him or want someone to spend a little cash which he does not have. And be more bold in saying that unlike the pinays who many have commented before me are 'ashamed' to ask f you don't offer.

So FF placing some cash in their purses is what many do as way to avoid any embarrassing moments.

Slippery. Boasting about giving someone 20 pesos is nothing to be proud of IMHO. As others have said before me, the guys fly half way around the world sometimes and to boast (and be proud of) stiffing a poor pinay less than $3? Not a good thing.

We all have budgets, even those who live in the Philippines. But being kuripot with a population where 28% are still below the poverty line is very bad behaviour of anyone and following FF advice is a nice way to show we have some morals / values even though many are on the darker side of life LOL.

So don't be kuripot and boast about it IMHO.

Thanks again. I'll take a look at all the options mentioned. And in the words of all those DIA needy hopefuls."I can't Wait!"

PM.

[QUOTE=Poolmover; 1451409]Anybody have a preferred airline from Lax to Mnl, especially if a balance of cost and duration and comfort is preferred?

I searched LAX and airlines here to no avail.

Thanks in advance, PM or here for a response would be great.

Thanks.

PM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1452242]They fuck me for free because they are attracted to me and like me. (never said nothing about all women). Not even mentioning taking them out to eat and also clubbing. I have nothing against giving cab money and will make it a point to offer cab money in the morning (200-300p)

Why go to Philippines?

1) I don't like American women (not exotic, not simple, have a princess concept, etc)

2) American women require more work to bang (more money, time, and bs)

3) A good month in America will land a normal guy 1-5 notches. A good month in the Philippines will land a guy 15-30.

I actually work in Asia at the moment, so it costs peanuts to get to Philippines. My preferred hunting grounds are Latin America.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls I know (and after over 100 trips to Philippines I know just a few) would laugh at a young guy who has so little money and stays in guest houses. They are generally used to better things in life.

They would suggest that you get a job, get some money and build some integrity. If all you have to offer at 27 is P200, you surely arent going to be getting any repeats and you had best hope you don't get a tampo attack from one of the ladies for insulting her so much.

Better you don't give her anything and just tell her you couldn't afford to do so.

Maybe this kind of game works in Latin America but in Philippines. Guess you got some learning to do.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1452314]Most of the girls I know (and after over 100 trips to Philippines I know just a few) would laugh at a young guy who has so little money and stays in guest houses. They are generally used to better things in life.

They would suggest that you get a job, get some money and build some integrity. If all you have to offer at 27 is P200, you surely arent going to be getting any repeats and you had best hope you don't get a tampo attack from one of the ladies for insulting her so much.

Better you don't give her anything and just tell her you couldn't afford to do so.

Maybe this kind of game works in Latin America but in Philippines. Guess you got some learning to do.[/QUOTE]Thats because the women you hang around are putas and def not simple and down to earth. They are westernized and might as well be American women. I am sorry you only float in those circles.

LOL like I would care what those women thought. You can have them!

No repeats? I get repeats and all the girls I banged on my last trip, of which I didn't give them a dime, I talk to weekly on facebook and they can't wait for me to return.

This game works everywhere. Maybe not for old dudes but for 20somethings most certainly.

You got a lot to learn buddy. Let me kick start your education.

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[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1452242]They fuck me for free because they are attracted to me and like me. (never said nothing about all women). Not even mentioning taking them out to eat and also clubbing. I have nothing against giving cab money and will make it a point to offer cab money in the morning (200-300p)

Why go to Philippines?

1) I don't like American women (not exotic, not simple, have a princess concept, etc)

2) American women require more work to bang (more money, time, and bs)

3) A good month in America will land a normal guy 1-5 notches. A good month in the Philippines will land a guy 15-30.

I actually work in Asia at the moment, so it costs peanuts to get to Philippines. My preferred hunting grounds are Latin America.[/QUOTE]Well myself have never had any trouble getting freebies around the world. A few years back when I was around thirties this was a great feeling. But suddenly I start to feel real guilt about leaving all this girls behind in sometimes their poor shit slife without even a dime to grab a bottle of soda. I knew for sure for most cases I would not do repeats after all. So I sharpend my play to these days allways give a girl something (and in phils that would for sure be 1 or 2k php). Most from my own guiltfeel and it realy makes me better see the girls leave with a genuine smile on their faces. Remember many pinays are to shy to even ask for compensation so it is our job (I can see you not think that way) to leave them atleast with something.

If you play pinays in the higher levels of classes things could be different though as you can run into girls would be highly offended if you offer money. But in these cases wine and dine can cost you many many thousands of php (so I guess this is not how you play).

There is no form of art getting it for free, but a real gentlemen does not exploit this on girls often earning in one year the same some of us would earn in a few weeks or maby even less timespan.

too much arguing of late. on to something lighter (it weights 2lbs).

so i meet a girl on burgos one night. very plain looking, with a sob story. to see if she was serious about her sob story and her needs, i told her i'd only take her st if she would agree to my (purposely outlandish) laundry list of needs at a very low price. i mean i threw in some wild stuff like bondage and whips and other toys, just to see what she'd say. i rattled them off and she said ok. either she was wild, stupid, or new. off we went. turns out she was new.

i decided to try the hitachi on her before the boomboom. she looked at it like it just landed from mars. as is my habit, i had her lay back against my chest, and i warmed it up on her nipples a bit before moving it south. for the first few minutes, you never have any idea if the recipient is enjoying or indifferent to the thing. then the hard breathing started, her stomach began tightening, and off she went like a roman candle. great icebreaker and a nice session followed. after that she gave me kind of a breakdown of her poor-girl 'simple' life. we talked for a while and i walked her to the jeepney to get home. two days later she was txting wanting to come over again, and i was trying to put her off, but she was persistent. i told her the same ridiculous low amount again, figuring that would put her off, but she came over. once there she let it be known she wanted to try the hitachi again ('can i ask? ') , and she got off with it twice straight, taking a nice rest between. another good session followed. we also tried a dildo, but she did not enjoy that nearly as much as she liked the hitachi.

on my last day there she was wanting to come over again. sure, be here at 7. it was a joy to watch her go off with that thing. then something unexpected. another girl who had been with me several times at that week wanted to come that afternoon. 3pm sounded good, thinking i'd get her gone by 7pm easily, and in txt i said we would try some adult toys. but, she didn't show until 5pm ('very traffic in jeep sorry'). on her previous visits she was good with the camera. i figured i'd try the hitachi with her also. i'd been trying it with every pinay on my trip. several girls were indifferent to it, but a bunch of girls were turned on by it (one girl brought another girl later just to try it).

so there i am with the 3pm / 5pm girl, showing it to her, watching the raised eyebrows, and i get her to lay back against my chest. just like the other girls, start with her (huge) nipples, work it around on the shoulder, then the nipples, and finally south to the clit. 20 seconds, and back to a nipple, then back south. 30 seconds moving it about a bit on the pussy, then back to the other nipple. then back south and just hold it there for 30 seconds. a strong, short exhale: 'huhhhhhhhh! '. back to a nipple, then back south. 'huhhhhhhhhhhh! ', then another. stomach tightening. 'huhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! '. i pulled it away for 2 seconds and put it back. i took her right hand and had her grab the wand and hold it. 'ooooooohhhhhhh', 'sheet! ', stomach tightening, 'huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhh! '

she threw it aside to our left, grabbed her crotch with her left hand, put her right hand over her mouth, and rolled away from me. i hadn't seen it from my perspective of sitting up and being behind her, but she gushed a gusher on the bed. i caught sight of her face with her hand on her mouth and i realized she was trying to catch her breath. once she did, she couldn't look at me for a moment. woooow. she lost no time and needed no direction: she went down on me hard for several minutes. a *great* long-winded f*ck session followed and ended with a large goo blast to her face and another large wet spot on the bedspread. we showered and i tossed some (extra) pesos in her purse while she was putting on makeup. i asked if she wanted to go or hang with me and she just shrugged her shoulders. i realized she had not spoken since before we got naked with the hitachi. she followed me down to the pool and just sat with me for a while. finally we talked for a bit. i asked if she was ok and she giggled and looked away from me and quietly said yes. at one point she asked: 'do you have other girl coming tonight? ' yes hun. be-jesus it was 6:40pm. she was gracious as i walked her out. i asked the door guy if he could have two fresh towels delivered to my room shortly.

we held hands and took a slow stroll a few blocks over to where she catches the jeep, and said bye as she got onboard. as i walked back to the hotel, my 7pm was walking up. timing doesn't get any better. sure makes the doorman smile. i'd left the window open and the aircon on in the room to blow the smell out, and the new towels were already hanging there (whew). i asked if she was spending the night and she said yes. i joked that she was just using me for my hitachi, we laughed, and she said: 'can i? ' sure, let me get the extension cord and get it from the bedroom. be right back! honest, looking at this girl, everything about her, from her clothes to her figure to her face say: plain jane. but there is something hidden within her that is the opposite. i brought it in the living room and she stripped right there and sat cross-legged on the couch and cranked it up. i wasn't the least bit horny and i didn't undress (and i was an uneeded third wheel at this point) , but here we go. two minutes later she was grunting and groaning with it. she'd get close to cumming and pull it away for a few seconds, then put it back on her clit, several times. then she exploded a wet mess on the couch that i was sure i'd get a hotel cleaning bill over. she turned it off to let herself recoup, just like the last time. we laughed about the wet mess on the couch. she stood up to get off the wet mess, walked around for a bit, and she switched to a padded wicker chair. i got her some bottled water which she sipped while we talked some more. then she fired it back up, and did the same thing there. chest heaving: 'oh my got! is like, is like, is like. ' a machine honey? 'yaaaa hahaha. ' she got up and walked around the living room nude for a few minutes, drinking down the water and opening another. she was moving kind of purposefully around the perimeter of the living room, not talking (interesting to watch). finally she sat down on the other end of the couch, grabbed the hitachi, and bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. fired it up again and went at it, this time standing modestly upright before her orgasm. shit what a show! the duration of time from when she'd turn it off from cumming, till she turned it back on to start again, was shortening. but the duration of time that she left it on while playing with it was lengthening.

finally she tossed it on the couch and limped to the bathroom to rinse in the shower. when i say limp, i mean limp and bent over somewhat, with her hand over her crotch like the previous girl. out of the shower she's still mildly hunched over. she was heading to the bedroom naked and i cut her off (didn't want her to discover the previous girl's wet spots). grab your clothes, lets go eat hun, daddy's hungry. 'but i need a rest first ok. ' sure, sit here on the other wicker chair that's not soaked at the moment (not on the couch or bed which have visible wet spots). neither one of us spoke for about 5 minutes. then she asked how much the hitachi cost. p2000 i said. 'i want haha. ' finally she dressed and off we went to super-six on faura for some live band and food. i was amazed previously at how much food and beer this 100-pounder could knock down, and she did not disappoint this time. i had the buffet and two tandauy ice, she had a full meal (lechon kawali and two orders of rice – [i]for herself[/i]) and 5 beers in the same amount of time, about 2 hours. while she appeared to be fine while listening to the band, chatting with me about the songs, once we got up to leave she grabbed my right arm to steady herself; clearly drunk.

with her smashed drunk, giggly and happy from live band, we taxi'd back to the hotel about 10pm and we crashed on the bed. i had an early wake-up call and wasn't in the mood for bambam. later after we fell asleep, i awake to hear her, upset: 'sheet! sheet! i think i [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] the bed! ' what? she grabbed my hand in the dark and pulled it just about a foot or so south of where the two pillows come together. absolutely soaking wet and cold, i pushed down a touch and it was like a gusher came up thru the bedsheet from the mattress. 'nyek! xxxxxx, i [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] here! '

its where the other girl gushed from the hitachi. hahaha. i went and got a towel and put it on the wet spot. 'don't worry it honey. nobody will know. go to sleep. you're beautiful to me. '

the hotel wake-up call came early. boy, do i have some good pics.

good fun. i always considered getting the magic wand. and then i heard its too strong and hard for some women.

-peeman

[quote=peeman; 1452396]good fun. i always considered getting the magic wand. and then i heard its too strong and hard for some women.

-peeman[/quote]it is. i find this kind of odd mix:

20 percent. it does nothing for them."eh. then?"

30 percent. its mildly entertaining."its nice."

10 percent. way too stimulating, right from the start.

30 percent. makes them cum once. too sensitive after that to try it again, or just no knowlegable that she can cum more than once. almost always eager to repeat, like that girl in middle has been in touch for both travel next time, and also wants me to bring the hitachi back (you bet; few things are better than watching a hottie get off).

5-10 percent. freaks of nature. can / will cum many times (maybe thats twice, maybe thats 15x). learn to rest in between orgasms. shorter and shorter rests required, longer stimulation required during. the usual format is they use it once, but are too sensitive. she tries again an hour or two later and is not sensitive. she learns the sensitivity timeframe for her body, and that it decreases each time.

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on that last 10% note, a few thoughts from the homeland. i've had multiple gf's right here at home who either own one, or after experiencing mine, line up at the door. i've been into the bdsm scene here for over a decade. for many subs, getting tied up and hitachi'd a dozen orgasms out of her in an hour is an expectation. after the first few orgasms / rest period, we just skip the rest period. when her head goes limp, she's done. hydration is important. some girls squirt the first cum or two, some girls don't. this stuff sounds fun, but its not for the feint of heart (for several reasons).

i was booty-calling with a lovely older canadian gal here (mid 50's) a few years ago. one night i noticed a hitachi on her bedroom floor. i asked, innocently, is that for your back and shoulders?"nah. its for when i want to cum a bunch of times." i enquired how many was 'a bunch of times' for her?"i dunno. maybe 6 or 7." i asked if i could watch sometime (camera came to mind)."nooooo. too shy to let anyone else see it." dammit.

until recently, i had great success at home, because i'm in the bdsm scene here. we don't tie up girls in foreign countries. i've had lesser (but modest) success with it in mexico, the caribbean, phils, and indonesia. recently when i was in phils i made a pact with myself to try and use it with every girl i was with. i used it with all but one, and i had at least 20 girls. i even used it on the ac bargirls, and made some real friends. not a single pinay this trip had ever seen one or even heard of it (they've seen or heard of dildos when i show that). at least 8 girls off the top of my head had that same reaction as the middle girl: hand clamped over her mouth (or crotch) , wide eyed, catching her breath, and often followed by: "sheet!" or "oh my got!", and then i get attacked sexually.

i'll put a pic in the pg tomorrow with it.