Bangkok Reports

As you monger more and more you will always find that as a general rule of thumb (although not exclusive) the "plain jane" or slightly overweight, or perhaps a bit more overweight, girls are always far better in the bed than a stunner.

What do you want is a simple question ? A trophey to parade on your arm, or a real horny girl in the bed.

I know which one I want, although of course sometimes its nice to have a shiny trophey to look at even if it serves no real purpose.

[QUOTE=Frazer]Yesterday, after some 30 days in BKK, I decided to give a try to one of the african SW working on the low Suk.

Some of you may have noticed a young looking petite black girl with a cute smiling face and a stunning body. She often wears a black top and a colored mini skirt. In the past days I had made a mental note and so when I saw her between soi 5 and 7 I approached her to have some chat before making my decision.

She claims she is from Kenya, that she is 25 and that has worked here for about 4 months. However from her accent and her way of smiling and joking I am almost sure that she is nigerian.

I decided to invite her for a drink and after an initial hesitation (I need to be paid for my time.) she accepted and she followed me to one of the beer bars near NEP. During the following 15/20 minutes we had good time together, we joked about all the bs that she tried to tell me (her name, nationality, her accomodation in BKK.) and we even kissed a couple of times, all very GFE.

Then we discussed about business. She initially asked for 2K bht ST but I told her that I normally pay no more than 1K and that that includes a BBBJ (for which she initially wanted an extra). Also the negotiation went on in a very friendly and cheerful way and in the end she accepted to go for 1K without (apparently) taking it badly.

When at the bar she received the first call on her mobile. My guess is that someone was controlling her.

Off we went to a short time hotel at the beginning of soi 3. Once in the room I undressed her, she helped me with my clothes and then we went for the (cold) shower.

I think that this girl has the best looking body that I have seen in the last 5 or 6 years: an ass to die for, rock solid and round as only a black girl can have, an incredible pair of boobs, round, full, firm and with small and pointy nipples, a smooth and flawless chocolate skin and not a gram of unnecessary fat. Simply fantastic.

I was so horny I could not resist, after some long and passionate DFK I went down on her and (despite the second phone call) in no time she was wet and ready. Then the problems started.

She took me in her mouth (BB as promised) but her poor technique and lack enthusiasm made me change my mind after few seconds. So I put on a condom and got ready to take her missionary. Even if she was still wet she insisted to put some KY in her pussy before I got in.

During the intercurse she didn't move one single muscle (except for the left hand to pick the third phone call), she just spread her legs enough to let me in and maybe she continued breathing. She let me dfk and touch her but for the rest it was like fucking a dead body.

After a couple of minutes I asked her to lay on her stomach and got her from behind but again she did not respond in any way to my efforts. So I stood up, took off the condom and told her that we were finished. She offered to wank me but I refused, went to the shower and then got dressed.

Before leaving (and after pocketing 500 bht that I had left near her bag), she apologised and told me that she felt very bad about her work in Thailand and that actually she had no idea on how to please a man.

When I asked if she had been "circumcised" (nigerians often use this word instead of infibulation) she just smiled to me, of course she had.

In conclusion I think that this girl is culturally, psychologically and physically unfit to be a good sex companion. If you need more than a gorgeous body in your bed then you should look somewhere else. I am not saying that all the africans in BKK will offer the same bad service but in the end why bother when thai girls in this sense are (often) a guarantee?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mealticket]Thanks

I was thinking about flying to west nigeria to go ST w/ an overweight thai girl w/ a big afro wig.[/QUOTE]Ehi! My starfish didn't wear a wig!

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]she was just as adamant about prepayment as the katoey. I replied that was not my policy. I told her that I never, never do that. Never. (I was beginning to sound like a broken record). She then get dressed and left the room in a furious huff. Perhaps someone on the board might tell me why. I suspect that she might have had a hideous scar or was circumcised (defibulation of the labia) or something frighteningly weird.
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From what I can tell, many girls have been stiffed (excuse the pun) by fellow mongers. Many guys will do the deed and then throw the girl out without paying, or paying a reduced sum. These girls are just trying to protect themselves from some shady individuals in a shady profession.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]...I did want to tell about one of the the weirdest nights I have ever had anywhere ... and it was in Bangkok. It was a very rainy night and so I stepped out of my hotel room at Nana Hotel to survey the local talent. Admittedly, that is less easy when it starts to pour. A smiling face caught my eye and the face seemed to be pleasant enough. I was intrigued by how she rolled her eyes at me. I asked how much and she stated 1500 baht. I said no way and offered 1200 baht. THat, of course, is 200 over the standard short time fee but I was taken by that glance.[/QUOTE]
CL,

Damn, that really was a weird night. And I am glad it finally worked out ok; proving that when you get thrown off a horse the best thing to do is get right back on the saddle again.

Still (and no flame intended), it seems to me like you were looking for love in all the wrong places. For a little extra baht I never run into this sort of stuff at the massage parlors and regular Go Go's I frequent. Once in a while I have seen some very attractive FL's in the Nana Parking lot and Beach Road in Pat (although most are below my cut off point) and I admit I have been tempted, but I always pass on it. Even if a weird night like this is 1 in 1000 anomaly, I prefer certified Grade A Prime Thai pussy. Perhaps the higher risk and adventure is what turns you on. I mean maybe picking up girls in totally "safe" places like Baccara, Thonglor, or Utopia for example is too much like going to Disneyland for you?

[QUOTE=Soilord]I seem to recall that the restaurant above Foodland was called Thai House 2, but I'm not sure it's there anymore - I'll take a look the next time I pass by.[/QUOTE]For the last several years,the place is now a bar,Country Road 2, with good country music and pool tables. I have not seen freelancers there but mostly couples.
FM.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]and for the third time now, I went up to the room with somebody. This time, it was very pleasant. [/QUOTE]Crazy night indeed CL. And raining too? I think after the second time I would have reverted to jacking off instead!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]CL,

Damn, that really was a weird night. And I am glad it finally worked out ok; proving that when you get thrown off a horse the best thing to do is get right back on the saddle again.

Still (and no flame intended), it seems to me like you were looking for love in all the wrong places. For a little extra baht I never run into this sort of stuff at the massage parlors and regular Go Go's I frequent. Once in a while I have seen some very attractive FL's in the Nana Parking lot and Beach Road in Pat (although most are below my cut off point) and I admit I have been tempted, but I always pass on it. Even if a weird night like this is 1 in 1000 anomaly, I prefer certified Grade A Prime Thai pussy. Perhaps the higher risk and adventure is what turns you on. I mean maybe picking up girls in totally "safe" places like Baccara, Thonglor, or Utopia for example is too much like going to Disneyland for you?[/QUOTE]

I suppose I prefer the wild, wild hunting grounds for a couple of reasons. 1. In the Nana Parking Lot, I have a 50-50 chance of the girl not shaving completely. In gogo bars, this seems to go down to 0 percent. I really don't like shaved pussies but since all the Westerners like girls to look like their post-90's porn flick stars, sans hair, I am forced to put up with it. 2. I don't like paying bar fines, I don't like paying stiff prices for drinks, and I can't talk to the girls very well in bars where the music is blaring away. Massage parlors are great on certain occasions for me but not late at night (OK, I am strange). By the way, I am heading for Macau soon and will go to a sauna, inspired, in part, by some of your reports from there.

I will be going to Thailand in a week and will be staying at Livingston's. I understand it is a bit more upmarket and that many Japanese are customers (Japanese hate the stupid shaving too). Hopefully, Giotto will guide me to where there are quality girls who are also au naturel. While I respect some people's taste, all I ask is for my taste to be represented as well somewhere ... and I am willing to pay for it. China has taught me that: you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Crazy night indeed CL. And raining too? I think after the second time I would have reverted to jacking off instead![/QUOTE]

These type of situations get the adrenalin flowing. Never give up!

cl,

everybody’s got different tastes and preferences. when i travel with friends, it’s always interesting to see and compare the different girls my friends and i choose. most of the time, i prefer spinner girls and naked pussy, but sometimes a ‘c’ cup girl, a taller girl, or a furry bush is a real turn on. variety is the spice of life, although i am currently hooked on asian girls. it has been 6 years since i was last in south america.

nobody likes the barfines and expensive drinks. if i lived and worked in bkk, i am sure my habits would change and i would have a few go go gf’s and massage girls on my cell phone speed dial. i would also have the necessary time to hunt and capture the non-pro thai girls. heaven.

since you travel around china a bit, i know you must see a lot of hairy pussy. macau will not let you down although as you know, the saunas are pricey. i will be back in asia in february. macau, ac, mnl and bkk are on the itinerary. let me know if you will be around and i will buy you a drink.

CL

Quite a strange night.

Giotto has his own stable available at the lodge. I am sure he can tell you who has bush or not. Your right he is a good guy.

As too prepayment: the girls/?.... most demanding for up front $ are in my opinion usually poor performers. You correctly showed the two demanding ones the door.


David2

Quote (From what I can tell, many girls have been stiffed (excuse the pun) by fellow mongers. Many guys will do the deed and then throw the girl out without paying, or paying a reduced sum. These girls are just trying to protect themselves from some shady individuals in a shady profession.) Quote

Mongers need to protect themselves from shady individuals and Katoey who bait then switch on services offered.

Never pay up front.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]...
I will be going to Thailand in a week and will be staying at Livingston's. I understand it is a bit more upmarket and that many Japanese are customers (Japanese hate the stupid shaving too). Hopefully, Giotto will guide me to where there are quality girls who are also au naturel.
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[/QUOTE]CL,

I will do my very best ... though I have no idea who has a "bush" and who don't. But somehow - we will find out :).

Btw., Livingstone's has some Japanese customers, but not too many. There are some Japanese KTVs in Soi 33 though.


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

Hi Mongers

Nakhon Si Tammarat has some pretty fillies I am told - can anyone enlighten me about this scene ?

Secondly, I am interested in a nice break somewhere, with diving and nice coral, and a nice pair of ladies to come with me for BJ between dives and general entertainment. Any ideas ?

[QUOTE=Giotto]CL,

I will do my very best ... though I have no idea who has a "bush" and who don't. But somehow - we will find out :).

Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]You have an official mission now!
And fully legitimate as it refers to "customer satisfaction", so start the surveys and interviews!
maybe a pool catwalk? lol

My feeling overall is that both these places have devoted pros and semi-pros there, the semi's may even go for free with some people, but overall the devoted pros are probably more often than not the better value, whereas the semi's are usually there partying with their friends and, in my experience, a lot more fun to pick up (at any price.).

YMMV.

-B-[/QUOTE]Well said. It's a market after all.

I prefer the little chase you get with the freelancers.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]I have been too busy in China lately but I did want to tell about one of the the weirdest nights I have ever had anywhere. And it was in Bangkok. It was about 3 weeks ago when I was there. It was a very rainy night and so I stepped out of my hotel room at Nana Hotel to survey the local talent. Admittedly, that is less easy when it starts to pour. A smiling face caught my eye and the face seemed to be pleasant enough. I was intrigued by how she rolled her eyes at me. I asked how much and she stated 1500 baht. I said no way and offered 1200 baht. THat, of course, is 200 over the standard short time fee but I was taken by that glance. As always, I asked her if she was a ladyboy. I seem to have to ask that. I asked that in Thai and the reply was a shaking of the head and something uttered like like sem-sem. That utterance turned out to be more meaningful than I had bargained for.

Up to the room we went. We started talking but something did not seem quite right. I couldn't put my finger on it. I always try to chat the girls up before I do them. It is just common decency. We had a pleasant enough conversation, she mentioned she did not like the Hotel security people but they always hassle her. Nevertheless, there was that nagging question of something that was gone amiss, something that had gone awry. She then told me that she wanted the money up front. From all the reading I have done on the board, I knew that to be a big mistake and I baulked. I told her that I never, never do that. Never.

She started acting strange. She said, OK, you don't like me, do you? At that point, I didn't but my misgivings gave way to sheer terror at the mere thought of where this was leading to. I flat declared that I did NOT like lady boys at all. That was when the she turned out to be a he as he threw a fit. He told me that he had liked me and that I had been playing with him. I told me that I was no gay and that I really, really, really, really did NOT like ladyboys. Sorry. He then threatened to call the police on me if I didn't give him a thousand baht. I called his bluff and told him to first talk to the Nana Hotel security people. This is a time when speaking some Thai is a great advantage. I told them "phom mai chop katoey leuy. Kao bok gahok. I don't like katoeys at all. He lied to me. He left in a huff, cursing me. I asked them in Thai, why didn't you tell me he was a katoey? Their laughing reply shocked me. Farang chop katoey maak maak!. Farangs like katoeys a lot. I then told them that I did NOT like them and that to tell me next if I brought one in (they have to check the IDs which do indicate the gender).

I was so shaken up by that incident that I decided to act on a kind PM from Giotto who invited me over to Livingston's for a beer. I took a cab over and met the man. He really is a great guy and certainly one of the smartest people that I have ever talked to in Thailand in all my Thai experience. After a couple of hours, I went back to Nana, calmed by my talk with Giotto and decided to try for another girl. It had stopped raining by then and I spotted a girl that really looked undeniably girl-like. I mean, I was really focusing on hard to counterfeit femininity. This girl seem to pass all my questions and I was relieved to see that she passed inspection with the Nana Hotel security people. She was, indeed, a she. It was confirmed, much to my relief.

In my room again, we started chatting in Thai. She said that her father was Moslem, a khaek (Indian) and her mother a Thai. There were none of the weird feelings of the other "girl". I was starting to feel good. She went to take a shower while I was entertaining thoughts of what was going to happen next. She came out wrapped in a towel. Then she sprang it on me: She demanded payment upfront immediately. WTF! Though no ladyboy, she was just as adamant about prepayment as the katoey. I replied that was not my policy. I told her that I never, never do that. Never. (I was beginning to sound like a broken record). She then get dressed and left the room in a furious huff. Perhaps someone on the board might tell me why. I suspect that she might have had a hideous scar or was circumcised (defibulation of the labia) or something frighteningly weird.

I was really shaken up by now. I staggered out into the Nana Parking lot more distraught than ever. There were a couple of girls that vied for my attention. I finally told them that I hate katoeys, I only paid after the act. Any problems? No problem, said one of them and for the third time now, I went up to the room with somebody. This time, it was very pleasant. The girl was extremely girlish. Undeniably so. Slim as I like them though I hate the shaving that seems to blight many girls in Thailand. China is so much better in this respect. She really responded to DATY. In fact, her yoni orifice actually gaped and stayed that way. I had thought that only happened in weird porno pics. She came several times, something which was attestable by the contractions in her vagina. There were even pussy farts when she came! Amazing. Amazing Thailand. Amazing but extraordinarily weird night in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the lucid detailed report. I too have often wondered what these Africans on Sukhumvit might be like. Usually several young ones hanging about on the corner with a much older heavy set female "handler". For me, I always kept walking for two reasons 1. Can't get the (paranoid) thought of all the West African internet scammers out of my head and 2. It always seemed antithetical to the concept of "when in Rome" (akin to seeking out Italian food in Bangkok, etc.) I will concur so to inform those vicariously visiting through these pages. Several of these girls have bodies to die for. Great that you share what is behind the veil, at least on that occasion.