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[QUOTE=Puff Time]A German 40 = UK14 or US12

That doesn't mean to say they won't still shave a few sizes off in the interests of modesty.
But dress size is no real measure of a woman, better is the full vital statistics, next is someone's recommendation, and best is having a look for yourself first.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I was really suspecting that something was off here-and it was my understanding of KG.

Makes much more sense.

Regarding Babsi-I wanted to just add that she was quite a sweet girl, just inexperienced and rather larger than I like. I am sure that she would make someone quite happy and with maybe a little instruction in the art of bj could be pretty good.

First off, thanks for all of the posts on this board.

1st experience:

I just returned from Berlin and after much research on here I decided to go to KD. I went around 1:30 on Wednesday and I was greeted by an attractive blonde Hausmutti. Her English was rather good and she informed me that there were 6 women to choose from. When the girls come in, they only say their name, shake your hand, and leave. As this was my first time there and not being able to speak more than basic German, I wanted an English-speaking lady. Unfortunately, I can't remember all of the choices, but the tallest was Natalie. Being 5'8", her height interested me for whatever reason. Before she ran out, I asked if she spoke English, and she said, "a little", so I chose her.

After a quick shower, I was lead to my room and within three seconds all she was wearing was a pair of pink pumps. Natalie has blonde hair, I would guess she was 5’11" without the shoes, her breasts appeared and felt real to me, and she appeared to be a little older than I am. I asked how tall she was and she thought I asked how old she was and I am pretty sure she said 31. After a short massage, she gave me a few minutes of oral, and then wanted to get into sex. I would have liked more oral, but I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to suck on a non-flavored condom. She was eager to do any position I wanted and even switched to a few herself. Due to the fact that I was nervous, as I always tend to be in a new venue, I only lasted about 20 minutes into my 30-minute session. She closed me out with a nice back rub and we called it a day.

2nd experience:

I went back to KD that Friday around 4pm. Apparently this is not a good time to go as either it is busy or there aren’t as many women there. Aphrodite answered the door and asked if I’d like to see the girls. I said yes and there were 3 choices. One of the women looked like a younger version of the blonde from CSI Las Vegas and she spoke perfect English. I would have went for her, but Aphrodite was the hottest woman I had seen during my entire trip to Germany and when she asked which girl I wanted, I asked if it was ok to pick her. I was unaware as to if she was on a break and that is why she was answering the door or what, but she said it was ok. Aphrodite is Russian, really tall, really fit, and has the lightest colored nipples I have ever seen in my life. She gave good oral and was happy to do it for as long as I wanted. I lost count of how many positions we did, but needless to say she gave great service. After we were finished, she claimed to be overheated and tired. Also, she claimed we had finished just in time. I don't know as to what would have happened if we went over. Considering what these women do and how often they do it, I will never believe that they truly enjoy it with any of their clients. The fact that I wore her out made me feel pretty good about myself though. A different Hausmutti, a brunette with a number of facial piercings, let me out and I happily strolled back to the U-bahn.

Notes:

The blonde Hausmutti is very cute and it is a damned shame she is only there to let people in.

The girls seem to understand a British accent more so than an American accent, so you could try to fake being British and have them understand you more. The trade off there is I have heard that Germans tend to dislike the British more than Americans.

If you are very shy, this place may not be for you as there is a currywurst stand right outside of it where people are often eating. The building appears to be like any other apartment building, but it still can be a bit disconcerting to some.

The girls at KD did not try to up sell. They ask you if you have any questions and if you don’t, they assume standard service. Everything seems really clean and they were nice enough to return a watch I inadvertently left in the restroom.

If you are faced with the choice between Natalie and Aphrodite, I would say go for Aphrodite unless you prefer a girl who whispers pillow talk in German. Aphrodite is very quiet and seems more into making eye contact and smiling.

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[QUOTE=Dirk2112]First off, thanks for all of the posts on this board.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for posting. We need more info on the various KD girls so such posts as this are always welcomed.

On the basis of you report I think Aphrodite will so receive a visit from me.

AM

Angus,

From time to time you refer to stuff you've read on the German forums.

My German is adequate (+). Would you mind posting a couple of links plz to those forums you feel make worthwhile reading.

Thx,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thank you for posting. We need more info on the various KD girls so such posts as this are always welcomed.

On the basis of you report I think Aphrodite will so receive a visit from me.

AM[/QUOTE]Well I hope you enjoy her as much as I did.

Angus, since you are the expert on this. I was wondering if you could tell me what happens if you do go over your time. Seeing as how you pay beforehand, does the woman expect you to stop and get more money or does she tell you that you owe more when you are through? I never brought much more than what I wanted to pay and after a bad experience in Amsterdam, I'd prefer to know the general rule in case I ever go back.

[QUOTE=Dirk2112]Well I hope you enjoy her as much as I did.

Angus, since you are the expert on this. I was wondering if you could tell me what happens if you do go over your time. Seeing as how you pay beforehand, does the woman expect you to stop and get more money or does she tell you that you owe more when you are through? I never brought much more than what I wanted to pay and after a bad experience in Amsterdam, I'd prefer to know the general rule in case I ever go back.[/QUOTE]


This depends on a few variables.

You will never (as far as I know and I really think I can say never here without risk) be asked for more money as a surprise at the end-in a bordello. At an FKK (i.e. Artemis) you may well be expected to pay for another 1/2 hr. if you go over. There is discussion on this and how to avoid it in the FKK threads.

But at a bordello, usually and especially at the lower end places, someone (the Hausdame) will give a knock on the door to let you know time is up. Then, the girl will either let you finish-or not depending upon the girl and I guess your rapport with her. At Liberty, which is IMO a nicer place but they do tend to watch the schedule especially when they are busy and need the rooms, I have experienced this and I had several minutes to finish. That is the girl I was with told me not to worry and we carried on fucking until I came. The clean up was though a bit hurried.

Now at KD, and this is one of the reasons that I sing praises of the place, you may go over time sometimes by quite a bit of time. Many times on hour long visits I have noticed that my time has gone over by as much as 20 minutes. I even in these incidences pointed out to the girl that we were over and was told not to worry. Mind though tht by this time we were no longer having sex, that was finished, rather we were just hanging out and talking/laughing/having some fun-you know pillow talk.

The half hour visits tend to be more precise with the time. Especially when you have no particular resonance with the girl. On the other hand, even on a half hour visit I have been over time by more than 10 minutes and that was okay.

So I can say confidently that if you hit it off with a girl at KD, and she wants to go over, you can do so without problem and certainly without fear of being asked for more money. Just as matter of politeness, and keeping things clear (which I think the girls appreciate and this helps in building rapport), I do recommend though that you let them know that you are aware of the time. And If they say not to worry then do not worry. It is up to them to keep things on track as it is part of their job.

If you do decide to book another 1/2 hour or hour I would be surprised at KD if the girl insisted upon you stopping to fish out the cash. If you become a regular with a girl she will sometimes not ask for money until the end anyway. One time I was half way down the stairs leaving when I suddenly realized that I still had the fee in my pocket. We had both forgot the financial aspect of things. I had to turn around and go back and ring the bell again. My ego was very happy that day! and the girl very grateful that I had come back.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Angus,

From time to time you refer to stuff you've read on the German forums.

My German is adequate (+). Would you mind posting a couple of links plz to those forums you feel make worthwhile reading.

Thx,

Charlie[/QUOTE]


Here you go. These are the two I visit:

[url]http://www.rotlicht-modelle.de/forum/index.php?[/url]
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/index.php[/url]

I think that you have to sign up (not sure of this) but it is free and a fairly easy process.

I find the reviews on these boards often quite difficult to read. Often I think that the lauguage used is very slang-y. But with the help of a translator website I can usually get the gist of a review and whether or not it was generally a good experience. I also find them useful in finding new websites etc.

There are some others (I know of at least one) but you have to use an "age checker" to access. As far as I can se this is just a way of extracting some cash from you as you need to use a credit card and pay a fee to prove that you are over 18-what BS. I refuse to be a party to that.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Here you go. These are the two I visit:

[url]http://www.rotlicht-modelle.de/forum/index.php?[/url]
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/index.php[/url]

I think that you have to sign up (not sure of this) but it is free and a fairly easy process.

I find the reviews on these boards often quite difficult to read. Often I think that the lauguage used is very slang-y. But with the help of a translator website I can usually get the gist of a review and whether or not it was generally a good experience. I also find them useful in finding new websites etc.

There are some others (I know of at least one) but you have to use an "age checker" to access. As far as I can se this is just a way of extracting some cash from you as you need to use a credit card and pay a fee to prove that you are over 18-what BS. I refuse to be a party to that.[/QUOTE]
... you can also try:

[url]www.roemerforum.com[/url]

It has general information on activity everywhere in Germany.

It is more slanted towards the [i]Umgangsprache[/i] so you will find that the language used does not correspond to textbook German.

There is also the matter of the Roman references. This all relates to the guys obsession with [i]Asterix et Obelix[/i].

[QUOTE=Dirk2112]After we were finished, she claimed to be overheated and tired. Also, she claimed we had finished just in time. I don't know as to what would have happened if we went over. Considering what these women do and how often they do it, I will never believe that they truly enjoy it with any of their clients. The fact that I wore her out made me feel pretty good about myself though.[/QUOTE]

I do not believe this to be true at all. Especially if you chose girls who do not appear on the schedule that much (i.e. part timers) and act like a gentleman, showing the girls respect, I find that the girls often enjoy their time with me.

Of course, due to the financial aspect, there may be a question in your mind as to how genuine they are being. But I know that some of the girls (all the girls I repeat with in fact)I see are truly glad to see me when I show up and they enjoy our time together.

I guess it comes down to how you feel about paying for sex. If there is a question in your mind about you "having" to pay for sex then It may color your attitude towards the girl "having" to have sex with you-because you pay. I find it useful to see that, yes, you are paying her to fuck you, but with in that frame work she can still have a good time.

I know that in my job sometimes I am "just doing it for the money" and sometimes I am truly enjoying myself. Being paid seems like a bonus. I see no reason why a professional girl can not also experience it this way. As mentioned above, seeing part time girls raises the chances of a girl being more relaxed about in my opinion-but not always.

I see also that this opens up a whole philosophical avenue about work and how we have set things up socially not to encourage people to find and do what they love to do as opposed to "just doing it for the money". In this respect many of us are prostituting ourselves in order to live, not just the girls/women who sleep with men for cash.

In my own vision of the world, that is the way I would like it to work, we would set things up so that people are given the space to be confused and flail about for a time trying and doing things just to see if they like doing them. They would not be forced by economic forces to decide quickly what they want to do for work and then spend the rest of their lives feeding the economic engines.

Perhaps this is a bit utopian and one could also argue that it is the responsibility of the individual to find out what it is that they love and do it. But I kind of feel that as a society we could be a bit more encouraging of this. We would have a happier population then and happy people would probably be more productive in the end.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]... you can also try:

[url]www.roemerforum.com[/url]

It has general information on activity everywhere in Germany.

It is more slanted towards the [i]Umgangsprache[/i] so you will find that the language used does not correspond to textbook German.

There is also the matter of the Roman references. This all relates to the guys obsession with [i]Asterix et Obelix[/i].[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I will give it a try. I used to love Asterix&Obelix when I was a child. I must admit though to being a bit puzzeled as to how that could relate to P4P...

I guess I'll have to have a look and find out.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I know that in my job sometimes I am "just doing it for the money" and sometimes I am truly enjoying myself. Being paid seems like a bonus. I see no reason why a professional girl can not also experience it this way. As mentioned above, seeing part time girls raises the chances of a girl being more relaxed about in my opinion-but not always.[/QUOTE]Thanks for answering my question. I do prefer the ladies that aren't clock watchers and you seem to have good luck finding those.

As for your comments about work, I agree with you to a point. I often enjoy my job and the people that work there. Would I often show up if I wasn't getting paid or if I was getting paid a lot less? No!

With the professional women, if they truly enjoyed their time with you, they would seek more time with you in a non-professional settings. The coworkers I really like, I do hang out with outside of work. You may be their favorite customer and they may look forward to servicing you because you are a swell guy and you treat them right, but at the same time you are a customer.

If your goal is to be one of their favorite customers, you sound like you have accomplished that and congratulations. If you are hoping to give them a BFE (boy friend experience) on the first go with any woman, you will be sadly mistaken. I tend to prefer trying a new girl each time, so I hold no illusion as to the possibility of pleasing them. Since you seem to prefer going with providers you like time and time again, perhaps you could work your way into their hearts and lives. I don't know if you'd want to though as her job and her past could cause some issues.

I agree that we are all *****s at work and we all can fall in love with a coworker/client. I just think it will take in this instance, a lot more sessions than I am willing to put in for any one girl to truly enjoy herself with me.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks. I will give it a try. I used to love Asterix&Obelix when I was a child. I must admit though to being a bit puzzeled as to how that could relate to P4P...

I guess I'll have to have a look and find out.[/QUOTE]
... started out as a joke on a former German language forum which was up and running about a decade ago (Yep, I've been following this topic on the Internet for about that long.)

Then the guys got into it and it just kind of took off: hence, the Roman references on the RF.

Newbies are always puzzled why the guys refer to themselves as Legionaires, Senators, etc..., have names which end with the suffix "-ix" and greet each other with "Ave!".

Very few of them actually speak any Latin.

There are, by the way, regional fora which are affiliated with the RF. I haven't checked to see if there is one which is specific to Berlin. I'll take a look and report back.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
...
Now at KD, and this is one of the reasons that I sing praises of the place, you may go over time sometimes by quite a bit of time. Many times on hour long visits I have noticed that my time has gone over by as much as 20 minutes. I even in these incidences pointed out to the girl that we were over and was told not to worry. Mind though tht by this time we were no longer having sex, that was finished, rather we were just hanging out and talking/laughing/having some fun-you know pillow talk.

The half hour visits tend to be more precise with the time. Especially when you have no particular resonance with the girl. On the other hand, even on a half hour visit I have been over time by more than 10 minutes and that was okay.

So I can say confidently that if you hit it off with a girl at KD, and she wants to go over, you can do so without problem and certainly without fear of being asked for more money. Just as matter of politeness, and keeping things clear (which I think the girls appreciate and this helps in building rapport), I do recommend though that you let them know that you are aware of the time. And If they say not to worry then do not worry. It is up to them to keep things on track as it is part of their job.

If you do decide to book another 1/2 hour or hour I would be surprised at KD if the girl insisted upon you stopping to fish out the cash. If you become a regular with a girl she will sometimes not ask for money until the end anyway. One time I was half way down the stairs leaving when I suddenly realized that I still had the fee in my pocket. We had both forgot the financial aspect of things. I had to turn around and go back and ring the bell again. My ego was very happy that day! and the girl very grateful that I had come back.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Angus.
Just for information : based on my own experience, there is a short break that the lady used to inform the "receptionist" that she stayed longer than expected (initially paid); but, if you "booked" a lady for a private meeting (called "escort"), she does not have to do it (so no break).

Hi,

A few words deriving from my trip to Berlin earlier this week:

Tuesday

Went to Monrouge in the evening. On my previous occasion with Jasmin we agreed that next time she would ‘bring a friend’. So …

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/jasmin.html[/url]
[url]http://www.monrouge.de/nicky.html[/url]

This was a really fun little session. Jasmin and I get on well anyway; Nicky was an enthusiastic and sexy addition to the party. The girls took turns to administer nice sloppy deep throat BBBJ’s whilst I tucked into their gorgeous bodies. Nicky was a pleasant surprise, very sexy in a slutty sort of way – a little bit mechanical and polished for those who like the ‘GFE’ illusion, but perfect for the scenario I had in mind.

Cost was 240E (70E + 50E for FT, apiece) – expensive but worth it as a highly undeserved treat to myself. I would do this again sometime, but extend for an hour. I will see Nicky again solo at some time in the future, that is for sure

I have had about 5 girls at Monrouge, and multiple sessions with Jasmin, and I can echo previous commendations on this forum without reservation. The girls are all stunning, they all perform well and are pleasant and easy to get on with. A really good bordello, with not buts – highly recommended.

Wednesday

It was 10 pm by the time I was ready to play, which meant that a few of the places on my shortlist were closed. I ended heading over to Wilmersdorf to Tomsen to see Soraya:

[url]http://www.bundesallee128.de/html/modelle.php[/url]

This was an altogether less happy experience than yesterday’s. I called in advance to confirm that she and Tanja were both free, but arrived to be told that they were both busy and only Kim (new girl) was available. Kim proved to be decidedly unattractive, so I elected to go for a walk and return 10 minutes later when Soraya would be ready. When I got back I had to wait a further 20 minutes before Soraya finally emerged.

Soraya is a really pretty girl, better in the flesh than in the web photos. We agreed 110E for 40 minutes with FO and Gesichtsbesamung (CIF). We started OK with some nice soft BBBJ, but then she started to whine that she didn’t like the taste, and how much she dislikes BBBJ etc etc. We fucked a little, and to her credit she was a keen accomplice, but for me the spell had been broken and I eventually broke off our session before my time was up, without ‘finishing’. I ended up re-visiting one of my dependable ‘regulars’ with the usual reliable result.

Sometimes it just doesn’t click with a girl. It’s part of the risk of the game, for both the punter and the girl. I wouldn’t necessarily seek to dissuade anyone from visiting Soraya, unless you are an oral junkie, in which case she’s probably not the one for you.

Thursday

Free until lunchtime, thus affording a rare opportunity to sample from the ‘morning shift’. Having been entertained by a dozen cracking-looking girls in my last few visits, I had a hankering for something ‘rougher’ – either the skanky look, or perhaps someone a bit older. In keeping with my recent policy of trying new places, I went to Celine69 with a shortlist a 2 or 3 particular girls in mind. I chose a Polish girl called Isabell, in her mid 30’s at least, with a pleasant disposition but quite heavily-built. I cannot quite decide if the photos on the website actually correspond to this girl or not – if so, then they are probably old pics or taken from a pretty flattering angle:

[url]http://www.celine-69.de/isabell.html[/url]

30 minutes with BBBJ and CIF was quoted as 105E. Isabell was a really good blow-job artist, and gave me a really nice slow BJ. These slightly older gals can usually be relied upon to deliver oral in a more pleasurable and unhurried manner. She brought me off in her mouth, so I missed out on my CIF, but I was pretty happy with the session notwithstanding.

I will go again to Celine’s, but not with Isabell. There were a number of other girls there that I fancied – mostly Polish and ‘dirty’-looking. I’m sure that a very wide range of services can be obtained at this bordello, particularly from a hot little number called Lola who was there today.

Cheers,

Charlie

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Many thanks for the report Charlie 123. Very informative with good intel packed into a concise report. I have posted it to the RoD thread to be sure.

AM