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[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1455945]Republic is awesome. A really hot place in resort worlds, super nice. Like being in any international city hot nightclub.

WAY to expensive. 250 for a jack and coke. They really need to reminded to put the jack in the coke!

Girls are hot! I picked up two hotties at the bar, partied and drank. I thought it was great till they decide to tell me they wanted to get paid 5, 000 each!

CRAZY ass girls. Because they put on a nice dress they think they should get so much money! I of course passed.

Anyways it is a awesome, clean, modern, hot place. Like all of the same types of places in different country's it is sooo pricey.[/QUOTE]I can pretty much agree with you it is expensive to do the real clubbing experience but this goes all over the world. Every city have their own top noche places which pretty much can charge, within reason, what they like. This goes also for the Manila club scene. Girls met here should somewhat get rewarded, and they do, for leaving their common freelanceoutfit back home and realy dresses up. But ofcourse hi so nightclubs also attracts other kind of prostitutes / girls than we see in our most common pick up places. Here you have the girls looking for sugar daddies and the more hi so escort element of girls visit. Probably in no desperate need of change but if they get an oppertunity and they like you they will take it for the right price. To be honest 5K for a stunner at Republic sounds like a fair deal to me. I've heard of pick ups from Prive (very hi so club) ranging in the 10. 15k area. Everything LT ofcourse. I myself have never picked up from hi so night clubs in Manila only did cater regular girls here.

But even if pick ups can be made almost everywhere not only in phils the mentioned nightclubs and others are not typical places satisfying a die hard mongerer.

Hey guys,

I just read those last couple reports and saw WC making the comment about the price of Burgos and EDSA. I am trying to get an idea of how to budget out my trip and was wondering what a typical going rate would be for those GoGo bars I have been reading about on Burgos St.

Is 5k now the standard for a LT, or is that for the nicer bars on Burgos? I'm also not very familiar with bar fines, I understand what they are, just never been in a place that had them. Are places on Burgos all inclusive with their bar fine, or separate tip for girl later?

FLT.

[QUOTE=FLT09; 1456028]Hey guys,

I just read those last couple reports and saw WC making the comment about the price of Burgos and EDSA. I am trying to get an idea of how to budget out my trip and was wondering what a typical going rate would be for those GoGo bars I have been reading about on Burgos St.

Is 5k now the standard for a LT, or is that for the nicer bars on Burgos? I'm also not very familiar with bar fines, I understand what they are, just never been in a place that had them. Are places on Burgos all inclusive with their bar fine, or separate tip for girl later?

FLT.[/QUOTE]Burgos and EDSA bars will typically charge 2-3000 ($50-75usd) for the barfine. The girl will usually not agree to go with you until you agree on her tip price (negotiable) before she leaves the bar. She will want 1500-3000 tip in the morning. On the low end, two years ago I got a girl from Wild West bar on the Makati Ave end of Burgos; the barfine at that time I think was 16 or 1800, and the girl the mamasan was pushing was brand new, second night in the bar, first customer. She asked 1500 for herself, and then accepted when I said 1000. However the other bars cost about 2x that much overall. All of this is in stark contrast to the girls walking along Burgos street (massage girls and freelancers) , who will ST with you for much, much less.

This is very different than freelance places like Havana Cafe in Makati, and Manila Bay and G-Point in Malate. There is no barine. You agree in the bar for a set price for either ST or LT. 1500-2000 is typical ST, add 1000 for LT.

Regarding Havana Cafe in Makati. A month ago on a Saturday night, I arrived there about 11:30pm. The inside was jumping with live band and dancing. I walked in, perused a minute, it was crowded and I walked out. All the tables were occupied, in fact I didn't see an empty chair. I also had not drawn any stares from any ladys. There were no tables with ladies only. I decided to take my time, and I walked up one row of tables, then down another. Up and down, slowly walking between tables. Nobody bothered to glance or look. These all appeared to be locals out for drinks. I walked past the Starbucks and continued on towards the mall proper, but all the benches that used to be there on the left filled with FL appeared to be gone. Just an impression: the old days of HC are gone?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1456225]Burgos and EDSA bars will typically charge 2-3000 ($50-75usd) for the barfine. The girl will usually not agree to go with you until you agree on her tip price (negotiable) before she leaves the bar. She will want 1500-3000 tip in the morning.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, gives me a good idea of what to budget for.

FLT.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1456225]Regarding Havana Cafe in Makati. A month ago on a Saturday night, I arrived there about 11:30pm. The inside was jumping with live band and dancing. I walked in, perused a minute, it was crowded and I walked out. All the tables were occupied, in fact I didn't see an empty chair. I also had not drawn any stares from any ladys. There were no tables with ladies only. I decided to take my time, and I walked up one row of tables, then down another. Up and down, slowly walking between tables. Nobody bothered to glance or look. These all appeared to be locals out for drinks. I walked past the Starbucks and continued on towards the mall proper, but all the benches that used to be there on the left filled with FL appeared to be gone. Just an impression: the old days of HC are gone?[/QUOTE]I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1456250]I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.[/QUOTE]I was in and around Havana with a mongerfriend last Tuesday in July. Even if that is not the biggest day for going out there were still a lot of eyeballing from the ladies both inside and outside (tablearea) Havana. It was not packed but a decent crowd of spinners. Did not take up any action from Havana though ex one double black label from the bar. We headed for Spicey Fingers close by instead as this was our initial goal for the night. Allways important to stick to plan, hehe. From there we did take out (both places live music) of fl girls. Mine proved to be crazy but that is another matter. So all in all bad decissionmaking from me not pick from Havana instead. But atleast mentioned Tuesday good girliecrowd. Have no idea how it was in the "good old days" but from my point of view (from less than 2 yrs exp from Manila) Havana and Spicey Finger is ok pick up joints.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1456250]I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.[/QUOTE]Forest thanks. I was there previously in June 2012. It was much the same scene as you described, with plenty of FL out in the open and easy to spot. But not last month. Anyone else there with current boots on the ground care to report?

[QUOTE=Blu8096; 1455945]Republic is awesome. A really hot place in resort worlds, super nice. Like being in any international city hot nightclub.

WAY to expensive. 250 for a jack and coke. They really need to reminded to put the jack in the coke!

Girls are hot! I picked up two hotties at the bar, partied and drank. I thought it was great till they decide to tell me they wanted to get paid 5, 000 each!

CRAZY ass girls. Because they put on a nice dress they think they should get so much money! I of course passed.

Anyways it is a awesome, clean, modern, hot place. Like all of the same types of places in different country's it is sooo pricey.[/QUOTE]Maybe you've seen my Makati regular and her bfff; they regularly party at Republiq.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1455994]Some gents are fine paying that. That's about what you'd pay in a Burgos bar, or the EDSA complex in Malate.[/QUOTE]I guess after thinking about it you guys are right. It is actually cheaper than burgous if you add up tip and bar fine. At the moment it seemed steep- plus the cost of the drinks were a *****. I will hit Insomnia and give it a try. I will not spend so much on drinks this time. I guess I was hoping to bag one for free but it dint go my way that night.

No they were not the same as the pic you attached. But those two would have been fun.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1456255]I was in and around Havana with a mongerfriend last Tuesday in July. Even if that is not the biggest day for going out there were still a lot of eyeballing from the ladies both inside and outside (tablearea) Havana. It was not packed but a decent crowd of spinners. Did not take up any action from Havana though ex one double black label from the bar. We headed for Spicey Fingers close by instead as this was our initial goal for the night. Allways important to stick to plan, hehe. From there we did take out (both places live music) of fl girls. Mine proved to be crazy but that is another matter. So all in all bad decissionmaking from me not pick from Havana instead. But atleast mentioned Tuesday good girliecrowd. Have no idea how it was in the "good old days" but from my point of view (from less than 2 yrs exp from Manila) Havana and Spicey Finger is ok pick up joints.[/QUOTE]I really like both. It is great to go to Havana to smoke a Cuban and drink some blue label. Then you can relax and check out the fL, it is a great place to relax and enjoy.

Spicy fingers is awesome to bring a DIA girl for meet. The happy hour has P50 mixers and some nice appetizers- I like the sushi. You can easily have a great chat and get her a little tipsy. Next on the way to the hotel to bang it out.

I don't mean to offend anyone. I am only trying to bring more info into this subject

Perhaps the live seafood market and the cook-for-hire restaurants near the mall of Asia are competitive by local standards. But the offered varieties are limited and very expensive, like 3x live sea food prices in California. In addition you would have to pay the restaurants fees to cook the food for you. These restaurants are just plain eating rooms with flat bright fluorescent lights and no decor, nothing resembling fine dining. There were not too many clients the night I was there.

Given that the Phil is a bunch of islands with great access to the Pacific, the small available varieties and extremely high prices of live seafood just do not make sense. Something is not working right in this market.

Compared that to the myriads of live seafood restaurants in most cities in China with abundant availabilities of all kinds of live, fresh, tasty, exotic sea foods all day all night, expertly cooked and exquisitely presented and served in elegant restaurants for prices about half to one third prices in California.

Check out a few images of the Tairyo teppanyaki steak and seafood chain in major cities in China. Dinner for about $15, the Tairyo offers all you can eat and drink all night from a menu of hundreds items of meats, sea foods, vegetables, beers, wines, sakes, juices, deserts etc. Elegantly cooked fresh and served on teppanyaki tables in front of you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tairyo+teppanyaki&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS524US524&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=NtUDUpKtHMGViQKvsIHYDQ&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=899

Got to admit, the young girls and the food in China are abundant, very delicious and cheap in global comparison. it's very nice to have beautiful girls and good food in the same location withotu breaking the banks. I recommend the bros to try this teppanyaki restaurant if you visit any major cities in China.

Now China is bringing her massive Navy to take over the islands and fishing waters surrounding the Phil, so the economic imbalance between China and her neighbors will become worse.

Please don't be offended of this info. It's only an impassioned presentation of my interesting travel experiences.

[QUOTE=JPF;1454659]I respectfully disagree. The fresh seafood restaurants near the Mall of Asia are very good quality, prepared how you like, and in a clean environment. Yes, the price is high but in my opinion so is the value for what you get. I recommend them.[/QUOTE]

[quote=lukeskywalker;1456578]given that the phil is a bunch of islands with great access to the pacific, the small available varieties and extremely high prices of live seafood just do not make sense. something is not working right in this market.[/quote]perhaps that's true in the manila area, but as i've noticed many things are more expensive in the metro-manila area. and i'm not sure i 'd want to eat fresh fish caught in the bay anyhow.

on the other hand, in some of the other areas fresh fish is readily available and quite reasonable. in the apu market in ac i bought fresh mackerel (whole) for 90p per kilo, brown spotted grouper (whole, but the fish monger filleted for it for me) for 115p per kilo. ; i prepared both in the condo i was staying in. in cebu i bought a variety of fresh fish for even less at the carbon market and from a local vendor in the area i was staying (marlin and sailfish were a bit more. about 250p per kilo; still a bargain in my book). again i prepared it myself at my condo.

one day about lunchtime in malapascua my gf were sitting on the porch of our room sipping mango shakes and watching some kids play on the beach. a native lady walking by our room had a basket on her head with a load of fresh fish. she offered to grill any one we wished for 400p. we selected a fresh "maya-maya" (red snapper; though on closer inspection in may have been a yellowlip as it was more orange in color with yellowish lips, but taste is the same) that weighed about 2. 5 kilo's. about 40 minutes later she returned with the fish along with a large portion of rice and some "sinamak" (spiced vinegar). the fish was wrapped in banana leaves and when she unwrapped it looked like something that had ventured into hell; it had been grilled with the scales on, was black as coal and with scales peeing off it resembled the space shuttle after re-entry into the atmosphere, lol. the fish had been gutted, stuffed with some sliced kalamansi (key limes) , rubbed with palm oil and then just plunked down on the grill. looked horrible, but once we cracked it open we found it to be cooked perfectly and it tasted excellent!

photo from the sm market in ayala mall; yes, that's parrot fish in the foreground for just 224p per kilo (and remember, that's at a retail grocery store) and spotted grouper to the left of it; if i recall correctly that was also about 200 - 225p per kg:

i just know there would be a few bros in this thread who would be totally immersed in fine dining, as well as dining at the y, and hot sex with hot sexy young girls. hehe.

i took a young and very good-looking girl to dinner at a large seafood restaurant 1 street east of marbini in ermita. 1 block west of the robinson mall. the place was large but dark and depressing. there was only 1 other party with us there at 8pm. everything including the rice was sold by the 100 grams. i remember its was very expensive and the food was not that fresh or good.

the young girl's name was blanca from 1 of the fish bowls in makati. she speaks perfect english and is one of the prettiest and nicest young girls in asia. she's a light-skinned spanish descendant. perhaps some of you may know her. she did not eat too much food and did not drink the beers. the other party was staring at this very pretty young girl the whole time which was annoying.

we got out of that depressing restaurant as soon as i finished eating and quickly got back to room in the questionable 10-star (?) riviera mansion on marbini. she was very beautiful with her pretty face, spinner body, soft, smooth skin, round natural boobs and long legs. i was embracing her sexy body, kissing, licking, sucking, driving my dick into that sweet, pretty girl all night. i have the tel of that fish bowl saved and will try to find blanca again when i am back in manila.

would like to find good restaurants in the ermita, malate areas, preferably teppanyaki buffets like the daireyu in china.

[quote=pip jaeger; 1456654]perhaps that's true in the manila area, but as i've noticed many things are more expensive in the metro-manila area. and i'm not sure i 'd want to eat fresh fish caught in the bay anyhow.

on the other hand, in some of the other areas fresh fish is readily available and quite reasonable. in the apu market in ac i bought fresh mackerel (whole) for 90p per kilo, brown spotted grouper (whole, but the fish monger filleted for it for me) for 115p per kilo. ; i prepared both in the condo i was staying in. in cebu i bought a variety of fresh fish for even less at the carbon market and from a local vendor in the area i was staying (marlin and sailfish were a bit more. about 250p per kilo; still a bargain in my book). again i prepared it myself at my condo.

one day about lunchtime in malapascua my gf were sitting on the porch of our room sipping mango shakes and watching some kids play on the beach. a native lady walking by our room had a basket on her head with a load of fresh fish. she offered to grill any one we wished for 400p. we selected a fresh "maya-maya" (red snapper; though on closer inspection in may have been a yellowlip as it was more orange in color with yellowish lips, but taste is the same) that weighed about 2. 5 kilo's. about 40 minutes later she returned with the fish along with a large portion of rice and some "sinamak" (spiced vinegar). the fish was wrapped in banana leaves and when she unwrapped it looked like something that had ventured into hell; it had been grilled with the scales on, was black as coal and with scales peeing off it resembled the space shuttle after re-entry into the atmosphere, lol. the fish had been gutted, stuffed with some sliced kalamansi (key limes) , rubbed with palm oil and then just plunked down on the grill. looked horrible, but once we cracked it open we found it to be cooked perfectly and it tasted excellent!

photo from the sm market in ayala mall; yes, that's parrot fish in the foreground for just 224p per kilo (and remember, that's at a retail grocery store) and spotted grouper to the left of it; if i recall correctly that was also about 200. 225p per kg:[/quote]

I have been to both many times. And every single time, there has always been pros and fl's. There are some girls who are there regularly. Some I see have been going there for about 5 to 10 years. Havana has been one of the best pick up locations for me. And that too, with excellent results. My first threesomes and foursomes was from Havana. My first backdoor was also from Havana.

It is especially great when you are staying at the New World Hotel. A long walk with a hard on that is trying to grow bigger is "hard". So, the short walk to New World is a bonus.

Pointers to Havana visitors:

It gets filled up. Early on, you will see it get filled up with families and workers getting out of work. But it starts emptying out by about 9PM. It then starts picking back up, around 10PM. Tables will all be taken by 11PM. By 12PM, you will see couples moving off to their rooms etc. If you get there and there are no tables, there is another restaurant right next to it. It is a Spanish Restaurant. Just can't remember the name. They have 2 for 1 beer most nights. If you come early, like 10PM, sit there and have your 2 for 1 beer. You can do your sight seeing from there. The girls will observe you and will try to make eye contact. If you smile back, and they think you are game, they will move closer to you. Usually they will come sit at the Seattle's Best Coffee, closest to the Spanish Restaurant table. If anyone can remember the name, put it up here. It is the one next to Seattle's Best Coffee. It feeds off the crowd coming into Havana.

The girls are plenty. After 12PM, walk into Havana. Sit at the bar, or stand there. You will get a table, and you will be hit numerous times by all the girls walking in and out, to the bathroom. Make your pick. The later you pick, the better the price. They do want to go sleep in a nice room.

But for those who say, Havana was a lost cause, you probably are very shy. If you are shy, this is going to be very tough for you, anywhere you go. Next time you cannot find a table, catch one of the waiter and ask for a table. They have always accommodated me. The waiters also know me pretty well. They remember regular customers and are sometimes protective of you. When a ladyboy approached me once, the security guy quickly came and talked the he-she away.

I am glad I don't live there. I would be broke by now.

CT.

[QUOTE=Forest; 1456250]I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Blu8096; 1456479]I really like both. It is great to go to Havana to smoke a Cuban and drink some blue label. Then you can relax and check out the fL, it is a great place to relax and enjoy.

Spicy fingers is awesome to bring a DIA girl for meet. The happy hour has P50 mixers and some nice appetizers- I like the sushi. You can easily have a great chat and get her a little tipsy. Next on the way to the hotel to bang it out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cool Traveler;1456675]If you get there and there are no tables, there is another restaurant right next to it. It is a Spanish Restaurant. Just can't remember the name. They have 2 for 1 beer most nights. If you come early, like 10PM, sit there and have your 2 for 1 beer. You can do your sight seeing from there.[/QUOTE]Cerveseria. Actually Cafe Breton is right beside Havana, then a GB3 entrance, and then Cerveseria.