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[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1352987]One of the things we like about Asian girls (and also Brazilian and Central American, I would add) is their easy approach to sex.
Having sex with strangers, not holding long relationships, is what makes them appealing to us, apart the overall cheap costs when you come to the monetary settlements (especially compared to the first world rates, back home).
I am not saying any Asian girl can be taken to bed with a wink, but I don't think either all girls get into the p4p system as they are money desperate.
They combine the economic advantage if earning money with something they are keen to do, don't have a problem to do and even enjoy to do: sex.
We then can't complain too much if they are unreliable on long term relationships, if they keep in working even when supported monthly from somebody abroad, if they prefer their own "home" environment rather than moving to the first world and spend the rest of their life with the stranger, often having little to share (apart the comfort of a much different life) , away from friends and relatives, in a different climate.
Certainly it looks strange to our eyes, that is for sure.[/QUOTE]There are quite a few girls who like casual sex in western world too. What makes unique with thirld world girls is they are not much bothered about the age issue. Western girls always want to date and have sex with around their age group.
In case of asian girls they genuinely seem to care for their older boyfriends atleast in public display. I do not think it all because of money and support.
In my personal experience they really seem to love and enjoy sex. Ofcourse all have some likings and dislikings. They all know long distance relationship with a foreigner does not last forever.
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[QUOTE=Gettin Trim;1353327]I was at the Greenery room once and I lost my key. She had to call the owner and it took him a half day to show up, drill it out and replace the lock. I suppose you could ask them up front what would happen if you loose the key.[/QUOTE]They still use safes with keys? The one I bought at Carrefour (now Big C Xtra) on sale for 800 baht is the electronic kind. It comes with 2 tubular keys so if the person using it forgot the combination then the owner can pry the plastic plate off the front and open it with the key in order to get to the button that resets it.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1353449]What makes unique with thirld world girls is they are not much bothered about the age issue. Western girls always want to date and have sex with around their age group. In case of asian girls they genuinely seem to care for their older boyfriends atleast in public display. I do not think it all because of money and support. In my personal experience they really seem to love and enjoy sex. Ofcourse all have some likings and dislikings. They all know long distance relationship with a foreigner does not last forever.[/QUOTE]Don't fool yourself. The Asian girls are the same as the Western ones. Women are women. They want someone of their own age. If you see them cuddling up with grandpa then you know it is a money thing. You probably think Anna Nicole Smith was really in love with the 80 year old billionaire guy and would have married him the same if he was a retired garbage collector too.
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Phuket trip
[QUOTE=Sean EZ;1352449]Hi Wildhawk, I booked the Phuket flight. Not too bad 90 pounds round trip from BKK on Air Asia. Been to Phuket once, beautiful beaches and other activities like scuba diving and ATV rides etc. I speak Russian so there are plenty Russian girls there, though I imagine most people don't go for Russians in Phuket! Anyways looking forward to it, thanks for your reply.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a fair price. I know I paid way too much for a Thai Airways flight a couple years back. More time was spent loading the flight (first time I've ever been on a 747 for an hourlong flight) than air time.
I don't think you'll regret your choice. Don't know much about the Russian girls, but there is plenty of P4P, for sure. Have a great, and safe, journey.
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[QUOTE=Null Avenger;1352534]As always depends on your tastes, budget, and time. I appreciate 18 year olds without any surgery or children, so my advice will come from that perspective: *snip*.[/QUOTE]Very interesting. Your tastes probably run similar to mine (though older is fine for me as long as they are hot and fit / slim). Are there many places that have incall st areas? I don't really want the hassle of bringing a girl back to my hotel.
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[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1352982]...The only contribution I would like to make is regarding the price. Go-go rates are more like ST = 2, 000 baht and LT = 4, 000. The beer bars are definitely cheaper, the BF is around 300 baht, ST between 500 and 1, 000 and LT between 1, 500 and 2, 000...[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the same Pattaya? 4000? I have yet to meet a GOGO girl who would not have been ok with 2000 LT (Unless they don't want to do LT at all). Of course if everyone pays up they will then try 5000 and 6000.
For 4000 to 6000 Baht you can get a Thai girl LT in Hong Kong or Singapore.
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I followed the taxi signs inside the terminal to the lower level and went out to the curb where there were lots of taxis and one girl behind a stand, so presumably this is the right place? Has anybody else been quoted 1500 like me?
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1353436]I don't know where you went bro. Are you sure you went to the taxi stand downstairs where it says ground transportation and not one of the booths inside? Or maybe on one of the upper levels?
The fare is set by law, so there is no wiggle room. That's precisely why they write the price on the dispatch sheet, which gives you numbers to call if you're asked for extras.
I've literally done this dozens of times, including again last month. Always the same price. Never any hassles or even questions other than "where you go?"[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Demecius;1353691]Very interesting. Your tastes probably run similar to mine (though older is fine for me as long as they are hot and fit / slim). Are there many places that have incall st areas? I don't really want the hassle of bringing a girl back to my hotel.[/QUOTE]Soi 6: every bar will have acess to ST rooms.
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1353731]Are you talking about the same Pattaya? 4000? I have yet to meet a GOGO girl who would not have been ok with 2000 LT (Unless they don't want to do LT at all). Of course if everyone pays up they will then try 5000 and 6000.
For 4000 to 6000 Baht you can get a Thai girl LT in Hong Kong or Singapore.[/QUOTE]. What he said, as long as the bar doesn't charge differently between short time and long time, I take the girls out on short time. If we have chemistry and they are having a good time, they will stay long time [Sometimes its hard to get them to leave]; If they are not having a good time they would have rabbited even if you took them LT.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1353733]Soi 6: every bar will have acess to ST rooms.[/QUOTE]Even if the bar doesn't have a ST room available [or occupied], the girls or the mamasan will be happy to point you to one of the nearest and ubiquitous short time hotels in the area.
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1353731]Are you talking about the same Pattaya? 4000? I have yet to meet a GOGO girl who would not have been ok with 2000 LT (Unless they don't want to do LT at all). Of course if everyone pays up they will then try 5000 and 6000.
For 4000 to 6000 Baht you can get a Thai girl LT in Hong Kong or Singapore.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid that 2000 is the ST rate for quality go-go girls in Pattaya these days and most of them want 4000 for LT.
The times of 1000 ST and 2000 LT for go-go girls has gone.
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Revisiting Pattaya
Back in big P for the first time since 1987. My wife and I are here only overnight and found Baywalk Residence suitable for our needs. It is cheap, nice enough, and centrally located.
I got a Thai massage from a 38-year-old with a nice face and beautiful knockers. Her English wasn't much; she claimed to have lived in ItItaly for a decade. She was a nice woman but all business. No touching. I didn't even try because it was obvious.
At my advanced age I find it laughable to go out with girls who could be almost my great-granddaughters. So I found a nice older woman in a bar on a side street. She was not standard-beautiful but very attractive. Two problems: No English, which I could overlook. The dealbreaker was that she was on her period. She seemed genuinely surprised that I even wanted to barfine her. Her female boss conductd the negotiations up to the revelation about her period.
I finally hit paydirt with a 40-year-old mother of two. Negligible body damage on an incredible body. Enough English. A real pro but in the playful Thai way. Since I could not take her to my hotel for obvious reasons, she solved the problem by telling me right off the bat that her bar had a boom-boom room upstairs. Clean, with fresh sheets. 800 bath, all included. If I overpaid, I don't care.
Overall impressions: A surprising number of gay bars and massage establishments. Ditto for katoys soliciting business on Beach Road even in daytime. Lots of Russians, and Indians. Also many men behave in shemale way, including a hotel receptionist.
I tried Cappra with good results.
More if more happens.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1353761]I'm afraid that 2000 is the ST rate for quality go-go girls in Pattaya these days and most of them want 4000 for LT.
The times of 1000 ST and 2000 LT for go-go girls has gone.[/QUOTE]Well done to all the overpayers then. I will not share bargains anymore and hope others don't spoil the leftover secrets either.
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Maybe you guys haven't been on Walking Street for a while (I don't blame you if that's the case. Now a tourist zoo filled with families, and Russians, Indians, Malaysians and Arabs that walk up and down the street in packs of 20). In a lot of "high end" places, girls want 3000+ short time and 5000-7000 LT (if they'll go LT at all, many won't). No, I'm not shitting you. Try to take one of those girls with a bolt-on rack from the popular lesbian shows and see what they quote you. Some of these girls won't go out with anyone at all now. They're just there to be eye candy. At least one go go bar now has lapdances. Fucking lapdances! The last recourse of the horny repressed westerner!
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1354078]Maybe you guys haven't been on Walking Street for a while (I don't blame you if that's the case. Now a tourist zoo filled with families, and Russians, Indians, Malaysians and Arabs that walk up and down the street in packs of 20). In a lot of "high end" places, girls want 3000+ short time and 5000-7000 LT (if they'll go LT at all, many won't). No, I'm not shitting you. Try to take one of those girls with a bolt-on rack from the popular lesbian shows and see what they quote you. Some of these girls won't go out with anyone at all now. They're just there to be eye candy. At least one go go bar now has lapdances. Fucking lapdances! The last recourse of the horny repressed westerner![/QUOTE]Maybe I'm misunderstanding some of the posts in the Bangkok thread (never been to Thailand) , but can't have a soapy massage and receive FS for less than 2000? Some of the girls on those websites look hot. 2000. 3000 ST in Pattaya seems silly (again, from the perspective of someone who hasn't been there. Take it as you may).