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[QUOTE=Romello]I plan on heading to Colombia in July.
Which city is best for beach, mongering, and nightlife between Cartagena or Barranquilla?
Which city is best for mongering, nightlife, and safe between Bogota, Medellin, or Cali?[/QUOTE]1) Cartagena
2) Bogota-you have parque 93, the Zona Rosa, Santa Fe and a multitude of other casas.
Santa Fe really isn't any more dangerous than 93 as it stands now anyways. No paseos millionarios happen in Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=Romello]I plan on heading to Colombia in July.
Which city is best for beach, mongering, and nightlife between Cartagena or Barranquilla?
Which city is best for mongering, nightlife, and safe between Bogota, Medellin, or Cali?[/QUOTE]There is no beach in BAQ, and it bears little comparison to CTG.
Cali is not safe. Stay away. BOG and MDE both have lots to offer. BOG is colder, as in bring a jacket. If you don't know Colombia well, especially if you don't speak Spanish well, limit yourself to CTG.
[QUOTE=Ricker]As much as a Brazilera is born to screw your lights out, the Colombiana is born to love and take care of you.[/QUOTE]Great analysis, Ricker. Can't agree more.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]There is no beach in BAQ, and it bears little comparison to CTG.
Cali is not safe. Stay away. BOG and MDE both have lots to offer. BOG is colder, as in bring a jacket. If you don't know Colombia well, especially if you don't speak Spanish well, limit yourself to CTG.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input.
[QUOTE=Routard]Great analysis, Ricker. Can't agree more. [/QUOTE]Well, I finally read thoroughly the Routard report / guide on Chica Management.
Very well written. Brought back lots of memories.
I'm sure I have graduated through all levels he discussed.
I do have to say that I've met some great chicas working as pros. Some have ended up as girlfriends and others as friends.
Anyway, I agree with nearly everything in his guide. Seems like the guide was geared towards meeting chicas (pros) in brothels, like those Colombian brothels in the Carribean.
Though the concepts remain basically the same when seeking and dating these chicas in Colombia itself, there are differences.
The main difference being that the chicas working in these Carribean brothels are almost imprisoned, having to pay fines if late, no show etc.
The chicas you meet in Colombia are free to do whatever they want. Much easier and much less expensive to get TLN in Colombia. No multas to pay.
As a matter of fact, it's easy to get the TLN for free.
If you treat these chicas right and they really dig you, you can easily move from client to amigo / semi-novio or even novio if you want.
Done it many many times.
Still doing it
I do disagree with the assessment that the chicas in Colombia from African origins will be more materialistic and less sensitive regarding feelings (page 1 of Level 2) I've found that to be absolutely not true.
As a matter of fact I've found the "lighter skin" chicas of Medellin to be the most materialistic of all.
And my latest "dark skin" Colombian beauty is the most sensitive I've had in Colombia.
I also think it's funny the part about Westerners have a good reputation, Europeans EVEN better.
I think senor Routard must be from Europe
Truth is, Westerners in general are held in high regard.
I've actually heard from my Colombian friends that some europeans can be a bit "colder" in personality.
Whatever, just was funny for me to read that in the guide
I LOVED the part about GPS (Girlfriend Pussy Sensor). Right on amigo.
A good monger, chica seeker, chica lover, etc must develop this sixth sense to be successful.
Funny thing happen to me the other day. I was in a club in Buenos Aires, Argentina. A beautiful, sexy chica entered the club. She semed different. Her walk, her smile, her sexiness.
I said to my buddies that she must be Colombian.
The chica heard me and smiled, approached me and said "como sabias? " (how did you know? )
I just smiled and said "no es dificil, las Colombianas son las mas bellas del mundo"
That was my GPS at work
Great guide! Thanks and Good Luck senor!
PS. Also funny, your espanol for THANK YOU on page 4 is MERCI BEAUCOUP
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[QUOTE=Ricker]Well, I finally read thoroughly the Routard report / guide on Chica Management. Anyway, I agree with nearly everything in his guide.[/QUOTE]There is no better compliment coming from the expert you are!
[QUOTE=Ricker]I do disagree with the assessment that the chicas in Colombia from African origins will be more materialistic and less sensitive regarding feelings (page 1 of Level 2) I've found that to be absolutely not true.[/QUOTE]Good to hear, I guess I have this feeling due to a few personal bad experiences.
[QUOTE=Ricker] I also think it's funny the part about Westerners have a good reputation, Europeans EVEN better.[/QUOTE]As far as I could experience it, they don't make a difference between Europeans or Americans in Latin America, both being referred as gringos. There is only one difference, when it comes to political opinions, there are sometimes some strong anti-US opinions.
[QUOTE=Ricker] Also funny, your espanol for THANK YOU on page 4 is MERCI BEAUCOUP[/QUOTE]Hehe! the first version of my Chica Guide was on a French forum for a French friend who was deeply in need of help. I guess I have missed a few translations.
Thanks for your input Ricker.
[QUOTE=Routard]There is no better compliment coming from the expert you are!
As far as I could experience it, they don't make a difference between Europeans or Americans in Latin America, both being referred as gringos. There is only one difference, when it comes to political opinions, there are sometimes some strong anti-US opinions.
Thanks for your input Ricker.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Wouldn't exactly say I was an expert, I've just got lots of experience.
You're right on about the politics though, but even more true in other S. American countries apart from Colombia. Colombia being the most alligned politically with the US. I'm in Brasil at the moment.
From the get go, I let them know that I'm a lover not a fighter Un gringo dulce.
Take care mi amigo! Good luck out there!
This is nothing new, at times is gets worse. Look what happened to Nixon when he was VP, when he visited the shithole known as Venezuela in the 1950's, he was pelted with food and threatened. It gets stoked more by the European media these days, which is not surprising since the european elite deep deep down hate americans, always have and always will. The thing that is so stupid is that americans are too blind to see this and the democrats want to be in the good graces of Brussels again, what the fuck for? Chavez will see the same fate as Allende did in due time.
In Colombia I do not think it is hatred, like it is in Venezuela, but resentment and a feeling that americans owe them something. This seems to be more pronounced among the poor. Many colombians think that we have a money tree in our backyards that we water and then pick the bills from its branches.
I have been a member of this forum for about 4 years and I would like to know why no one uses the hostels systems to go to places like Manzales or Piera or even Medellin.
I have seen a lot of the for about 20 dollars.
2# how is the monger with older woman there around 30 and above I have not heard much.
Just asking,
Tom
IMHO the reason why europeans are more "intriguing" - the are less in colombia than americans! Further, the US is known by TV or maybe personal, while europe is so much away.
Everytime I owned I am german I get positive feedback at all. Also there are f.e. german schools in colombia, arts interchange and many more. And, sadly to say, after 1945 a lot germans headed to south america, undesired in germany but welcomed in SA and they brought a lot of good things.
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]...since the european elite deep deep down hate americans, always have and always will.
...americans are too blind to see this and the democrats want to be in the good graces of Brussels again, what the fuck for?
... a feeling that americans owe them something. This seems to be more pronounced among the poor. Many colombians think that we have a money tree in our backyards that we water and then pick the bills from its branches.[/QUOTE]I don't know where to start with this! Since when did Europeans hate Americans? (I assume you mean US Americans? Or are you extending that to the inhabitants of two continents?) Sure there are some, but xenophobia is alive and kicking back home too last time I checked.
I ain't seen much evidence that the Democrats cow-tow to Brussels but Europe's certainly a large economic block now that any government wanting to enhance trade would ignore at its peril.
And finally something with relevance to Colombia: Many poor don't hate US citizens exclusively. They hate *all* ricos equally, regardless of race, color, creed, or nationality. Its a very disempowering attitude as its logical conclusion is that they can't do anything their own economic situation, so they don't.
I did not say all Europeans hate citizens of the USA, but certainly the European elites and European media do. The constant bashing of the american people, american laws, is overboard and quite frankly I am sick of it. After Bush leaves in 2009, nothing will change, they will still hate us.
I did not say colombians hate us, but resent us, and your analysis is spot on as to why. Where as Venezuela has been hostile to americans since the 1950's.
Trendy Andy,
You may be on to something, but there are probably more Germans in Argentina, paraguay and Urugray than Colombia. Yes more gringos in Colombia.
I have been following the recent posts to this thread, and I decided to offer the opinion of a contrarian.
Routard's series is excellent and I agree with almost all of it. I want to emphasize the bottom line, however. The bottom line is that you will not know what Routard knows until you speak Spanish. The ability to speak Spanish will increase both the quantity and quality of your experiences with Colombian women beyond your wildest imagination.
Colombian men are experts at telling women what they want to hear. Likewise, Colombian women are experts at telling men what they want to hear. Colombian women do not prefer European men over American men. Furthermore, Colombian women do not prefer American men over Colombian men. I hate to burst some egos around here, but that's the truth.
Like women everywhere on Planet Earth, Colombian women prefer successful men over unsuccessful men. There are more beautiful women in the world than successful men, especially in Colombia. Furthermore, Colombia is an extremely elitist society.
Colombian women will say that they prefer foreign men for three simple reasons. First, that's what foreign men want to hear. Second, foreign men in Colombia are more likely to be financially successful than Colombian men. Third, successful Colombian men do not take poor Colombian women seriously no matter how beautiful a particular Colombian woman may be.
Colombian women prefer Colombian men over foreign men. Colombian women prefer men from South America over men from North America. Colombian women prefer North American men over European men. Colombian women prefer European men over Asian men. And so on and so forth. Again, I hate to burst any egos but that's the truth.
Fortunately, these geographic preferences are far less of a priority for Colombian women than the universal preference of global women everywhere for successful men over unsuccessful men.
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[QUOTE=Client 9]Colombian women prefer Colombian men over foreign men. Colombian women prefer men from South America over men from North America. Colombian women prefer North American men over European men. Colombian women prefer European men over Asian men. And so on and so forth. Again, I hate to burst any egos but that's the truth.
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I've been going to Colombia for years, many years, and I have many Colombian friends, male and female, and have had many girlfriends. My spanish is very good.
Your observations IMHO are way off. Not sure how you came to those conclusions about Colombian chicas preferring South American men, etc.
I do agree with the part about speaking spanish though. It absolutely opens doors and makes the whole experience so much better.
Take care