Sosua Reports

I just returned from Sosua (SBR) , and I stayed at the Sosua Bay Resort for the 3rd time. However, it was the worst stay this time. First, they never returned my emails to make reservations and when I made calls. I arrived on Thursday evening, Feb. 16 at 5pm. When I arrived to SBR, the staff seemed as if they were going through motions with expressionless faces. When I got to my room in the monger section, I checked the sheets as I do in all hotels, and I found chica hair on the sheets. But the room phone didn't work, so I made the 5 minute walk to the front desk and made a complaint to the front desk by a grumpy maid. This took a hour.

Second, when I showered the drain in the tub didn't work. So I was wading in shin deep water. Because my phone didn't work, I had to walk to the front desk to complainabout that. As for the phone, I was told that non of the room phones were working in my section of the building (5) because of wiring. Each issue I chose to do before I settled down and unpack.

Third, the next day many people complained about not having towels. Folks complained about clean towels being removed by the maids, and one fella said he had no clean towels for 3 days. Also many rooms were half or not cleaned.

After asking staff why is the service so bad, I was told by people I know at the front desk, maids, restaurant, and security that they have not received pay for 3 months. So I guess either there's not enough staff or the employees were doing a work slow down to protest their lack of pay.

Also some people had no water at times, and there was a sewage problem. You can smell sewage in the hallways and some rooms.

I don't think I will be stay at Sosua Bay Resort on my next trip. Unlike Terra Linda, where I stayed on two occasions, Sosua Bay Resort wants full payment up front. So if you have a problem with the hotel, you already paid and will lose out if you change hotels.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1252863]This was not at all my experience at New Garden. Almost all chicas left on their own after getting paid, got their IDs and were gone, while I went back to sleep or hit the shower.[/QUOTE]Hey SavePros, I have to agree with Kman on this one. My five and only times staying at the NG, I never escorted the girls out. I was either too drunk, too tired, or in the "See ya, let's do lunch sometime." mode. Plus, I'm always on the top floor and there are way too many stairs to negotiate at that time in the morning!:D

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1252856]You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.[/QUOTE]Notice the 1st paragraph, ICE agents DO NOT COMMENT on their means of operation.

The USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or 'ICE', participates in investigating and capturing child sex tourists. In 2003 ICE launched 'Operation Predator', leading to the arrest of over 11, 000 child sexual abusers, including more than 1, 100 outside the United States. While ICE agents refuse to comment on their means and methods of operation, media reports have suggested the use of undercover agents, internet sting operations, and sophisticated technologies. ICE agents in Bangkok did say however that they often receive information from local NGOs about foreigners in Thailand whom they suspect of engaging in child sexual abuse. Sometimes USA based law enforcement, such as local Sheriff Departments and Parole Officers, inform them of known sex offenders who are traveling to the region. In both cases, local ICE agents work with their RTP counterparts to monitor the suspects' movements while in Thailand. [30]

Tourists from the United StatesUnder the PROTECT Act of April 2003, it is a federal crime, prosecutable in the United States, for a USA citizen or permanent resident alien, to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the USA citizen or lawful permanent resident alien intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad. For purposes of the PROTECT Act, illicit sexual conduct includes any commercial sex act in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18. The law defines a commercial sex act as any sex act, on account of which anything of value is given to or received by a person under the age of 18. [42] Before congressional passage of the Protect Act of 2003, prosecutors had to prove that sex tourists went abroad with the intent of molesting children—something almost impossible to demonstrate. The Protect Act shifted the burden, making predators liable for the act itself. Penalties were doubled from 15 years in prison to 30. [7

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1252464]Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?[/QUOTE]I'm not condoning this, I'm actually condemning this. But last week I did see a guy about 25 years old eating at Big D's on the beach with 3 extremely young ladies, girls even (est. 14-17). And nobody batted an eye except for me. He spoke perfect Spanish, but was not Domincan; maybe Puerto Rican. He was drinking a beer and they were drinking Cokes. He was all over the oldest one. She even called her mom while they were there but I couldn't make out what she was telling her.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1252938]I'm not condoning this, I'm actually condemning this. But last week I did see a guy about 25 years old eating at Big D's on the beach with 3 extremely young ladies, girls even (est. 14-17). And nobody batted an eye except for me. He was drinking a beer and they were drinking Cokes. He was all over the oldest one. She even called her mom while they were there but I couldn't make out what she was telling her.[/QUOTE]Mr E I commend you on condemning this predatory behavior by the poster which he blatantly admitted to.

Concerning the beach matter-You are making too many assumptions.

What bothers me is that this predator is allowed to post and even be on this site-some guest reading that post and the replies, who were giving advice like "meet in a public place". Might be inclined to think this is a predator site to some extent. And that doesn't bode well for people who are here to post and converse about LEGAL ADULT ONLY information and perspectives. There are people who read this site and loathe us-mainly because of jealousy-I don't think we should give them ammunition for their "Holier than Thou" agenda.

To the moderators-please screen posts like the one being discussed more carefully-it should have never been posted and the poster should be banned-IMO-Zedman

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]I just returned from Sosua (SBR) , and I stayed at the Sosua Bay Resort for the 3rd time. However, it was the worst stay this time. First, they never returned my emails to make reservations and when I made calls. I arrived on Thursday evening, Feb. 16 at 5pm. When I arrived to SBR, the staff seemed as if they were going through motions with expressionless faces. When I got to my room in the monger section, I checked the sheets as I do in all hotels, and I found chica hair on the sheets. But the room phone didn't work, so I made the 5 minute walk to the front desk and made a complaint to the front desk by a grumpy maid. This took a hour.[/QUOTE]They have never returned my emails. I just usually call Glennis the manager and she makes my reservation for me. I was going to mention going through the motions and grumpiness due to not being paid, but I see you hit on it later. They should be used to it by now.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]Second, when I showered the drain in the tub didn't work. So I was wading in shin deep water. Because my phone didn't work, I had to walk to the front desk to complainabout that. As for the phone, I was told that non of the room phones were working in my section of the building (5) because of wiring. Each issue I chose to do before I settled down and unpack.[/QUOTE]I have never known the drain to work properly the times I have stayed there. If it did THEN I would think something was wrong.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]Third, the next day many people complained about not having towels. Folks complained about clean towels being removed by the maids, and one fella said he had no clean towels for 3 days. Also many rooms were half or not cleaned.[/QUOTE]They do not have reserve towels at the hotel. They have to restock the rooms with them as they clean the ones that are dirty.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]After asking staff why is the service so bad, I was told by people I know at the front desk, maids, restaurant, and security that they have not received pay for 3 months. So I guess either there's not enough staff or the employees were doing a work slow down to protest their lack of pay. Also some people had no water at times, and there was a sewage problem. You can smell sewage in the hallways and some rooms.

I don't think I will be stay at Sosua Bay Resort on my next trip. Unlike Terra Linda, where I stayed on two occasions, Sosua Bay Resort wants full payment up front. So if you have a problem with the hotel, you already paid and will lose out if you change hotels.[/QUOTE]As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1252856]You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.[/QUOTE]I for one whole heartedly agree with him.

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1252670]Only someone who actually replies to you with advice about how to meet her is actually stupider than you.[/QUOTE]I guess that is aimed at me. I think I would have done better to simpler have ignored his post but I was trying to be non-abrasive. I will revert to my normal abrasive mode of response in future. Yes, of course you are right. I was wrong to even respond. Boards like this should simply ignore such discussions and the mods should delete the original post.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1252889]Hey SavePros, I have to agree with Kman on this one. My five and only times staying at the NG, I never escorted the girls out. I was either too drunk, too tired, or in the "See ya, let's do lunch sometime." mode. Plus, I'm always on the top floor and there are way too many stairs to negotiate at that time in the morning!:D[/QUOTE]Hmm. The two times I stayed at New Garden (before discovering TL) Alfred (the German guy) was still running the place and this policy was in full effect. I guess Lorenzo doesn't enforce it though.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1253009]I guess that is aimed at me. I think I would have done better to simpler have ignored his post but I was trying to be non-abrasive. I will revert to my normal abrasive mode of response in future. Yes, of course you are right. I was wrong to even respond. Boards like this should simply ignore such discussions and the mods should delete the original post.[/QUOTE]I was taken back that anyone replied to his post and got a little carried away calling the respondents stupider than the Predator (which is what he is).By acknowledging your mistake it is self-evident you are not stupider.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1252952]As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.[/QUOTE]Mr E, I guess that me and you are the last of the Mohegans still staying there, we might even have seen each other. Jeje LOL!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1253027]Mr E, I guess that me and you are the last of the Mohegans still staying there, we might even have seen each other. Jeje LOL![/QUOTE]I've stayed at EUROPA my last 4 trips. Suits me just fine. No problems! LOL

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1252952]They have never returned my emails. I just usually call Glennis the manager and she makes my reservation for me. I was going to mention going through the motions and grumpiness due to not being paid, but I see you hit on it later. They should be used to it by now.

I have never known the drain to work properly the times I have stayed there. If it did THEN I would think something was wrong.

They do not have reserve towels at the hotel. They have to restock the rooms with them as they clean the ones that are dirty.

As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Mr. ET, from what I understand the actual owner of SBY is the owner of Classicos, and he wants to get rid of Glenys. Funny thing, her and her boss were not as visible on the property none of the 6 days this trip, but on my two other stays you always see them. One of the female employees verbally compared Glenys to a dog. Then her boss parks his BMW 8 cylinder up front at guess drop off. I think there is hostility between the administration and the staff. They are thinking the owner will change the administration soon, and Glenys will be gone

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1252400]You say you have been a member for "years" but have never posted any useful information. You state that you have gotten good info. In the past that have been helpful in your "trips" to Europe, but not one report. You "promise" that you will post a full report and "pics", but have never done so in the past.

You sound like a politician running for office. Promises, promises.[/QUOTE]ATH Trainer, I understand why you feel like that, I really do. Everyone here contributes and gives back the knowledge thay are given and then some. That is my intention, and let clarify about my trips. These European trips were work related, during which I was able to get a few days here and there for myself to explore my surroundings. These were not MONGER-TRIPS. I have no pictures to share, or exciting stories to tell. This forum helped me find the REd light district in Hamburg and a couple other German and Dutch cities, and for that I am thankful. I did not take pics of the girls, because I was reluctant to ask. Sosua is my first true monger trip, and I promise you ATH. You will see some pics and hear some stories. If you don't want to help me, then by all means to each their own, but it's nice to see that not everyone is so petty, childish, and vindictive.

Azazel

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1252401]I may be wrong, but I don't think Hispaniola Beach condos are quite where you suggest. I think they are next to Infiniti Blu, off Calle Alejandro Martinez, although Pedro Clissante does run out into Alejandro Martinez at the end, so maybe that is what you mean. I don't think you would need a car, but it might be handy to rent a passola (scooter) , although if you are fit, it is within easy walking distance of the main entertainment district, plus you can use motoconchos. There are a few restaurants and bars in that area. I would say it is not dangerous to walk back there at night, because I have never heard of tourists being attacked while walking at night in Sosua and I have done it a lot myself. One of the reasons why I don't think it is dangerous is that there are armed nightwatchmen with guns sitting all over Sosua at night at hotels, banks, and businesses, and they are usually suspicious of any unusual activity in their zones of interest. To that extent I would say it is safer to walk around at night than in the US or the UK.

However don't be surprised if someone else on the board chips in and says that it IS dangerous. There is always more than one opinion.

However, since the condos no doubt have security, you might want to check out their policies on guests. Most likely they allow one per day and will hold the I'd papers of the visitor in the guardhouse during the visit.

None of the other hotels are really ideal, but the Sosua Beach Club hotel at the non inclusive wing might be your best bet. Terra Linda is supposed to be nice inside, but in a somewhat crummy area and I imagine there would be a lot of traffic noise there. Power, Internet, and water outages are a fact of life anywhere in the DR. Better class accommodations do have backup generators, but broken water pipes can occur anywhere, and hotel wi-fi is always iffy and may go from excellent to barely moving for no apparent reason (maybe other users.) If you want reliable Internet I would definitely recommend buying a Claro prepaid Internet stick, though you might want to try out your hotel's wi-fi Internet first to see if it is good enough to meet your needs. Water is rarely a problem, but don't drink it. Worst case scenario is you have to get a bucket of water from the swimming pool to flush a WC, so don't sweat it.

I think the condo probably would be a good idea if you can afford it. It is nice to have a quiet place with a pool and a beach to go home to away from the prostitution scene.[/QUOTE]Frannie,

Thanks for your insight man, and yeah thats exactly what I meant about Calle Alejandro Martinez. (I can tell you know sosua. LOL) I am noticing that this indeed is far enough to merit motorized tranpo, because neither me or my wingman are very athletic or in good shape. LOL I may pursue some of the other rental choices from Hispaniola Real estate that are closer to the action as suggested by other members. (thanks Grandnash, and Hamster 101) The most important thing, is that my wingman has finally realized that the condos are the best choice and now its just a matter of finding the right one.