CoolGregg Reports on Spa Trantra
CoolGregg responded to my post about Tantra Spa in PM, but his inbox is full, so can't reply back. I've decided to publicly post his message with my response since I think it contains useful info (if Gregg objects to this, my apologies).
CoolGregg wrote:"Spa Tantra. Oh man. Did you like that spa? I went their last Saturday around 1 pm. It was a cesspool place. In presentation I saw 10 chicas. All the chicas were like 3 to 5. I picked one 5, when she got nude it was like 3. They press boobs and belly with clothing. Rooms were dirty. They put one small piece of cloth pretending it is washed on top of the mattress. There were stains on sheet. Girls don't take showers after or before, use wipes to clean a little bit after. I used bathroom, no soap available. Top of that, chick heckled for tip. That was my experience. I stayed on Carrera 10 and Calle 55."
My response: Yes, I liked the place and had a good time. I didn't write that in the post because I try to keep subjective opinions at minimum and be factual. I only wrote that it was decent, which is not saying much.
When I went, there were about 10 chicas as you mentioned. I found most of them attractive--you did not. I actually got the names mixed up and choose a wrong one. In room, wrong chica's face was not too pretty, but when clothes came off, body was awesome, and she knew how to fuck, no hassel for tip afterward.
Maybe it helps that I speak Spanish at native level, establishes rapport quickly. I imagine lack of Spanish would be more challenging, different outcome. Also, my standards don't seem to be too high, lol.
I liked that they lay down a sheet, didn't notice any stains nor other hygiene issues, girl seemed clean and didn't smell bad, good enough for me.
You went and had a bad time, I went and had a good time. So what about the next guy? Clearly, it can go either way.
This casa was like most others ones, not outstanding or unusual, except door bell doesn't seem to work.
Ask a chi a or ask for it at a strip club.
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A Week in Santa Fe Part 1
I'm spending a week exclusively in Santa Fe and will be filing a couple of reports. I'm a mid- 40's, fit white guy with experience mongering in several countries including Colombia. I have visited Santa Fe twice before but each time only really scratched the surface. My goal with this trip is to see how much uncovered action can be negotiated with the street and club girls and to ultimately decide if Santa Fe is a viable option going forward. Please note, I am not a tinder, SA, facebook guy and so my posts will not touch on those strategies. If they work for you, that's fantastic- please continue making them work. My main objection is that on a short stay, too much time is wasted dealing with the screening, set-up, flaking, and other problems that are much easier to deal with on a longer term basis. My guess is that for consistent uncovered service, SA is likely the superior option, but the cost in time and hassle is very high and again- not feasible for a week trip.
Traveling to Colombia at this time is quite easy. Don't forget your vaccination card and that silly Check Mig app (briefly scanned by the immigration officer). This time I flew Avianca and did not check bags or pay for carry-on, cramming all my belongings into a "personal item" that I stowed under my seat. This saves a lot of money- the cheap ticket price that lures you is often doubled by the time you pay for luggage.
I opted to stay at an inexpensive airbnb ($20 a night) situated half-way between Santa Fe and Carrera 7 a short five minute walk to each. Carrera 7 is a great pedestrian walkway that will take you all the way to the Museo de Oro and Plaza Bolivar. There are many places to eat inexpensively, access an ATM, and find drug stores for other needs. This is where you should do your civilian things if you stay in this neighborhood.
In the other direction is Santa Fe. Much has been written here about how "ghetto" or dangerous this neighborhood is and I'm not going to sugar coat it- it is a dump. A warren of about 3 x3 blocks full of dingy motels, potholes, drug dealers, prostitutes, an endless procession of bikers and taxis and roaming homeless young Venezuelan men- its a mongers paradise. I tend to feel that Santa Fe itself is not terribly dangerous but the area due south and south west should be avoided.
Danger can be mitigated by not standing out- I'm a pasty white guy with a bald / shaved head but I fit in quite easily by putting a baseball cap over the white dome, and dressing like a local with jeans and an adidas track jacket. With a mask over my face I'm rarely eyeballed and just assumed to be a local. Aside from wardrobe, just don't get stupid drunk, wear fancy clothes or items, and generally don't be an ass. If you plan on just hopping in and out of an uber I suppose you could wear nicer clothes, but I doubt the girls will really care. They might assume you can pay more. I do walk around at night, but just ignore all panhandlers and sketchy people and so far have been fine.
On the negotiation-as stated before, my goal here is to receive at the very least BBBJ with the ultimate goal of BBFS, CIP, with all the variations in between. A basic level of Spanish is needed for negotiation. First I ask her name, her age, where's she's from. If she looks young I demand to see a cedula (ID). If she does not produce a cedula that means she is under-age and you should walk on. I've been hanging out most on the south end of SF -this is where the Venezuelan spinners congregate, many who are underage, so be careful. A usual offer for a 20 min rato (date) will be 40-50 mil pesos. The hotel room (la pieza) is separate and is usually 8 mil pesos. If you want 40 minutes instead of 20, make sure the girl and hotel know during the negotiation. Once I have the base-price I specify that I need "oral sin condon", at this point she will either refuse or ask for more money-usually double her base rate- so 40 becomes 80,50 becomes 100. If I have an affirmative here I will seal the deal and head to the room. Other services I negotiate while in the room- so if I want a CIM, first I try to see if it can just be had for free, and if not how much more. Usually 20-30 mil extra should do it. The next bit, BBFS can be a little tricker, and often will mean a double of the agreed rate, so 100 mil (50 base+50 BBBJ) becomes 200 mil. Each step up in services acquired is more costly and less likely to be granted by the provider. However, let's remember that 200 mil pesos is about $53 and so to get BBFS plus CIM from a pretty 18 yr Venezuelan spinner, this is really a great deal.
My first day I began with an attractive and slim 19 year old Venezuelan at one of the north end hotels. She agreed to a 50 mil rato plus 50 mil for uncovered BJ. The service was fair to poor- she didn't appear to enjoy blowjobs or cum, but it was still satisfying ejaculating into her 19 yr old mouth. This was about 6 pm and as I was leaving I saw the "night shift' coming on, which seemed to have more talent generally.
After a meal, shower, and few hours later I came back to roam some more. Starting at the clubs, La Troya, Atunes, Paisas, I wasn't feeling the lineups and the club girls start at 70 mil pesos and are much more reluctant to do extras. A friend of mine has related that if you bring club girls out of SF to a nicer hotel or airbnb, extras are much easier to obtain- but I find this one more annoying hoop to jump through.
One of the night-time annoyances of the area to be aware of is all the young men trying to herd you into this or that club where, if successful, they will stick to you like glue until you have a seat and order an overpriced drink of which I'm assuming they get a large cut. It's best to just ignore them and say "luego, luego". After a couple of days I think they recognize me and don't pester me so much.
After walking around a bit more- the south end seems to have the kind of girl I like- young thin spinners- I found a very cute 18 yr old Vennie with cedula who agreed to 100 mil for uncovered BJ. Once in the room, I found her attitude to be great, allowed light deepthroat and some kissing. I asked for BBFS and she agreed for 100 mil more (now 200 mil total). She requested that I not CIP, and so came on her tummy. This was a fantastic session and we got numbers to meet up the next day.
Returning the night after, first I hung out a local bar and watched about 20 drug transactions right in front of me- little white powder packets in one hand, cash in the other. I texted my Vennie from the night before, who said she would be out soon- but instead of waiting I succumbed to temptation- another 18 yr old Vennie at a south end hotel. This girl was legitimately pretty, petite, with perky tits, a beautiful face and blonde braids. She agreed to a 40 k rato plus 40 k for BBBJ. We headed to the room and she delivered- very sexual and very sweet. I requested CIM during the act which she agreed to for an extra 20 mil, so 100 mil total. After sex we talked a bit and I learned she had been in Colombia for 2 years since that age of 16 and working in SF as a prostitute the whole time. She was curious why I asked for her ID, "you don't like young girls? To which I replied it was illegal. She maintained that it was not illegal and that she had no trouble with the police for the previous two years she had been working. Maybe not, maybe so, but the risk is still there for Gringos- especially-to be extorted by either the provider or the police, so again it's best not to break the laws in your home country even if you are abroad. I plan to visit this provider again- she told me that girls do come out on Sundays, so we shall see.
After my session, it was raining heavily, and the girl from the previous night finally showed up and met me in a bar across from Paisas Club. At first she asked for 400 mil to go to my place for a few hours- but I got her down to 300 mil (again included BBBJ, BBFS). I was considering a trio with her friend but the girl didn't show. I was expecting the doorman at my airbnb to check her cedula as this girl looks quite young (mostly because she is a small spinner) but there was no such request and so we just went up to my room. The session was good, but I was a bit tired because I had just fucked a little while ago, and so for much of the 3 hours we just hung out. She told me she had come to Colombia quite recently and had first spent time in Parque Lleras in Medellin, which is why her initial ask is 50 mil not 35 mil and her markup is higher too. She related that much more money can be made in Medellin because the market is skewed by Gringo money, but her mother moved to Bogota and so she followed. Before working as a prostitute she said she begged on the street to survive. She showed me her tiktok, which seems to be her primary creative and social outlet and I don't think she has much knowledge beyond that world. Her goal is to travel to Paris, France- which she associates with the luxury goods she would like to obtain. Sweet girl, probably will repeat but need to get back to 200 mil.
