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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1716041]The thing about you getting older is that the P4P ladies are getting ever younger compared to you. Older P4P ladies leave, and younger women take their place. Which increases the age difference between you and the ladies.
When you become old enough to be the lady's father or even her grandfather, then this makes it hard for her to relate to you in the same way that she would relate to a much younger guy.
I think you need to become better at pleasing the ladies sexually, as you get older. Because in older age, you aren't as physically attractive anymore. Your only saving grace is what you can do with the lady, compared to a younger, less experienced guy.
I've recently read an interview of a young porn-star named Keisha Grey. She said that she prefers to do it with older guys, because they know what they are doing. She meant of course to say that older guys tend to be better in bed with a woman than younger guys are. But she was talking about older, experienced porn-studs in the porn-industry. These guys have far more experience than an average older guy has.
Older age doesn't necessarily make you better in bed with a woman, unless you pay attention to your experience and try learn from it to make it better for the lady every time. This is something older guys need to do to maintain their edge with much younger women. Or else it's not fun anymore, either for you or her.[/QUOTE]I have always been very attentive, even when I was a young buck. Sadly it seems that fewer and fewer gals in the P4 P scene are interested in their own pleasure these days. Age of course is a factor, but hey, one of the reasons for moving here was seeing the 60 plus dudes that were here 15 plus years ago with hotties. Don't see that as much anymore. I think it is far more a result of the changing economy as opposed to age.
Keisha Grey is correct. But most P4 P gals just want the quick buck. They are not interested in much else. When you do find those that are, it is good. My target age has never been low 20's. Always upper 20's and 30's. Better chance of a gal that likes the act there.
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Feet / toe sucking
Do all the girls at Mango provide foot / toe sucking, I know rimming, A level all these massage places are good for.
However from what I have read sucking your feet and toes they are not too keen on. So it is good to know the service is offered.
Any other places?
[QUOTE=Kunken;1706876]Actually I like experienced girl.
But her boobs took my attention. Later I knew that they were all natural.
They said she is new girl and just worked 1 week and does not know much.
Whatever. At least she got big boobs!
She got no kid. Her stomach was firm. Her body was really good.
Most of all, her boobs were best in mango shop.
I almost could not take my hands off from her boobs. So soft and elastic.
At first in shower, I guided her. We kissed and I guided her BJ mine...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1716070]I have always been very attentive, even when I was a young buck. Sadly it seems that fewer and fewer gals in the P4 P scene are interested in their own pleasure these days. Age of course is a factor, but hey, one of the reasons for moving here was seeing the 60 plus dudes that were here 15 plus years ago with hotties. Don't see that as much anymore. I think it is far more a result of the changing economy as opposed to age.
Keisha Grey is correct. But most P4 P gals just want the quick buck. They are not interested in much else. When you do find those that are, it is good. My target age has never been low 20's. Always upper 20's and 30's. Better chance of a gal that likes the act there.[/QUOTE]I'd says that the best pleasure is one that is given freely, rather than the one you need to ask for.
Because when your partner goes out of her way to please you, without you asking for it, then this makes you feel that she likes you and genuinely cares about you. But when you need to direct her to kiss this or suck that, then for me at least this is a big turn off. It's like she doesn't care about you at all, and you need to manipulate her like a puppet to make it appear as though she likes you.
It's true that you pay some money to the lady to be with you. But it's like doing a favor for a hot lady-friend, and she making you her favorite fuck-buddy to enjoy with you.
And that's how it is for the lady being interested in her own pleasure. Such pleasure isn't interesting to her at all, when she needs to ask for it. Because her asking for it is like an admission that you probably don't care about her at all. Which is a turn-off for her.
And the thing about being attentive with the lady is that this doesn't guarantee you are doing well with her. Because the lady might not feel free to tell you, when you are doing something unpleasant with her. Without accurate feedback, you can be repeating the same mistake again and again, without ever learning or improving on what you do.
Accurate and reliable feedback is essential for knowing how well you are doing with the lady and improving on what you do with her. And one way to get such feedback is by paying close attentions to her physical reactions that happen automatically and that cannot be faked. One such reaction is the lady's clitoral erection. Which is pretty hard to see, unless you spread her pussy. But her clitoral erection is pretty easy to feel with you hand, especially if you get to know her pussy with your hand before she gets her clitoral erection. You can feel the difference right away.
The lady's clit doesn't lie. It gives you accurate feedback every time. All you need to do is keep track of it with you hand and believe what it's telling you.
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[QUOTE=JustTalk979;1716312]However from what I have read sucking your feet and toes they are not too keen on. So it is good to know the service is offered.[/QUOTE]It is a cultural taboo and non-standard service. For Thai people the feet are the lowest and dirtiest part of the body. This is because they are symbolically in contact with the ground all day. Hence all the foot massage places where they wash your feet as part of the process.
In Thailand showing someone the soles of your feet is like flipping them the middle finger. They would be quicker to rim you instead. Even a place like Devils Den which shows an array of explicit activities lists foot worship under "receives" only, so you might have a hard time fulfilling this request as the ladies can be uneasy even being on the [I]receiving[/I] end of this activity.
Since it is kind of getting into the BDSM realm looking for someone who holds herself out as 'submissive' might be a good start. Otherwise just go to one of the established PSE oilies and ask for a provider willing to participate in it.
SunLover.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1716435]I'd says that the best pleasure is one that is given freely, rather than the one you need to ask for.
Because when your partner goes out of her way to please you, without you asking for it, then this makes you feel that she likes you and genuinely cares about you. But when you need to direct her to kiss this or suck that, then for me at least this is a big turn off. It's like she doesn't care about you at all, and you need to manipulate her like a puppet to make it appear as though she likes you.
It's true that you pay some money to the lady to be with you. But it's like doing a favor for a hot lady-friend, and she making you her favorite fuck-buddy to enjoy with you.
And that's how it is for the lady being interested in her own pleasure. Such pleasure isn't interesting to her at all, when she needs to ask for it. Because her asking for it is like an admission that you probably don't care about her at all. Which is a turn-off for her.
And the thing about being attentive with the lady is that this doesn't guarantee you are doing well with her. Because the lady might not feel free to tell you, when you are doing something unpleasant with her. Without accurate feedback, you can be repeating the same mistake again and again, without ever learning or improving on what you do.
Accurate and reliable feedback is essential for knowing how well you are doing with the lady and improving on what you do with her. And one way to get such feedback is by paying close attentions to her physical reactions that happen automatically and that cannot be faked. One such reaction is the lady's clitoral erection. Which is pretty hard to see, unless you spread her pussy. But her clitoral erection is pretty easy to feel with you hand, especially if you get to know her pussy with your hand before she gets her clitoral erection. You can feel the difference right away.
The lady's clit doesn't lie. It gives you accurate feedback every time. All you need to do is keep track of it with you hand and believe what it's telling you.[/QUOTE]Hi Dan, My point was that many P4 P ladies are not at all interested in their own pleasure these days. And who said anything about asking for it? I tend to approach sex with a P4 P gal the same way I would with any "regular" gal. Used to always be well received. Now days not as much.
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Beer or Candy opens shop
Those who knew Beer from Victoria, Candy from Cherry will be happy to hear that she opens her own shop. She says, there are 5 ladies presntly working.
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[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1716862]Those who knew Beer from Victoria, Candy from Cherry will be happy to hear that she opens her own shop. She says, there are 5 ladies presntly working.[/QUOTE]Good to hear. Know if a website for the shop is in the works?
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[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1716862]Those who knew Beer from Victoria, Candy from Cherry will be happy to hear that she opens her own shop. She says, there are 5 ladies presntly working.[/QUOTE]Thanks, is this in the Soi 24/1 cluster?
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Candy ex-Tulip
Thanks for the super fast intelligence Nongpagba. She mentioned something about this to me but didn't give me a timeframe. I hope she might still do some shifts at the new place? Hope so.
[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1716862]Those who knew Beer from Victoria, Candy from Cherry will be happy to hear that she opens her own shop. She says, there are 5 ladies presntly working.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1716574]Hi Dan, My point was that many P4 P ladies are not at all interested in their own pleasure these days. And who said anything about asking for it? I tend to approach sex with a P4 P gal the same way I would with any "regular" gal. Used to always be well received. Now days not as much.[/QUOTE]The thing about pleasure is that it's enjoyable in itself by definition. It's not pleasure, if it's not enjoyable.
Which means that when you try to please the lady, and it doesn't work for you in term of pleasing her, then this is a big clue for you that you are either doing it wrong, or you should be doing something else that you aren't doing.
Such a situation needs investigation, rather than giving up.
When one woman stops being pleased with you, then it might her and not you. But when every woman you go with is no longer pleased with you, then chances are good that it might be you and not the women.
If you are still keeping in touch with some P4P ladies who know you well, then I suggest that you ask them for advice how you can improve your technique with women in bed. Experienced P4P women are so experienced with men and with sex that they can often give you good advice, instead of just trying to make you feel better.
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Candy Massage
[QUOTE=Kuratla;1716867]Good to hear. Know if a website for the shop is in the works?[/QUOTE]She says a website will come.
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Best Kinky PSE place
Hi guys,
I've got a stop over in Bangkok for a couple of days and so want to make the most of it. So I don't have as much time as I would like to go sample all the places.
So I was hoping you gentleman could advise me what the best establishment is.
I'm looking for a more PSE kinky filthy style of sex.
Particular emphasis on girls that go all out in terms of DFK, Deepthroat, Prolonged diligently tonguing rimming, riding.
1st-sessions want to keep it to a one-on-one. So which girl and establishment would be recommended?
2nd session Threesome- which establishment a combo would be recommended.
I'm not asking this question blindly, I have researched the forum.
Shortlisted some places- Cherry's, Mango, Tulip, Snow white, Eden etc.
So I just need to narrow it down to one or two and the girls.
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[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1716960]She says a website will come.[/QUOTE]The new "Candy Massage" is the old SW 2 or "Lilly". With Candy's proven track record as one of the great performers in the Sukhumvit oily scene, I think she will not only assemble a great team of girls but also keep the old standards that made Tulip famous.
One of the first of the "super stars" to have joined her is Ice / Lisa ex Mango, ex Cherry ex Tulip, who is back from Korea. Lilly who previously worked at Cherry and then Bamboo is also going to join in a short while.
This shop is going to liven up the scene considerably.
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[QUOTE=JustTalk979;1716966]Hi guys,
I've got a stop over in Bangkok for a couple of days and so want to make the most of it. So I don't have as much time as I would like to go sample all the places.
So I was hoping you gentleman could advise me what the best establishment is.
I'm looking for a more PSE kinky filthy style of sex.
Particular emphasis on girls that go all out in terms of DFK, Deepthroat, Prolonged diligently tonguing rimming, riding.
1st-sessions want to keep it to a one-on-one. So which girl and establishment would be recommended?
2nd session Threesome- which establishment a combo would be recommended.
I'm not asking this question blindly, I have researched the forum.
Shortlisted some places- Cherry's, Mango, Tulip, Snow white, Eden etc.
So I just need to narrow it down to one or two and the girls.[/QUOTE]My tuppence worth -.
I was last in Bangkok in February and visited Mango and Snow White.
I believe that snow white currently delivers the best balance of filth and looks.
For a pure filthy experience, I would recommend Wan or Mad from Mango.
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[QUOTE=Mjen1970;1717109]My tuppence worth -.
I was last in Bangkok in February and visited Mango and Snow White.
I believe that snow white currently delivers the best balance of filth and looks.
For a pure filthy experience, I would recommend Wan or Mad from Mango.[/QUOTE]Is Wan still working at Mango? She is not listed on the website anymore and I didn't see her when I visited in March.