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I've helped two girls here in the LOS, with what is to me a very modest amount. Their government is not following through on promises of assistance, and that 5, 000 be is nothing to me but means everything to them. One of them sends me pictures of the healthy meals she is making for herself and her home bound sis, without appeals that I make it a regular thing.
We are all in this together.
[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2447315]Save our little working girls.
Excuse me, it's me again, I'm aware of abusing the bandwidth of this thread, I promise to make an effort now.
I just wanted to make a call. I say it with my words. Personally I am against support for all the girls who come to ask for it. They always have good reasons. There are certainly legitimate requests but in normal times it looks like abuse. In general I refuse.
Right now I think it's different. The situation is exceptional. Some girls have gone to their province, I hope they are safe in their family, they can still subsist with a bowl of rice.
But for those who stayed in Pattaya, Patong or Manila maybe they have a support, maybe they have clients with Tinder or ThayFriendly. But I think that for the most part they stay in their small room and they are afraid to go out because of the covid-19 or the curfew (I have a few contacts there who make me confirm it).
As well maybe we can do a little gesture to help them, and thus maintain what makes us all happy. If everyone makes a small gesture we can all save ourselves. They have children and parents to help, that's why they are there. We must all stand together in difficult times. I'm sure they will thank you a hundredfold when you see them again (if you know what I mean.
For my part, I sent by western union 100 to a chick in Angeles City. I was to spend a few days with her at a scuba diving destination.
Tomorrow I will send 150 to a Pattaya chick who cannot pay her rent.
So maybe they make the same request to several customers. But I'm not sure that everyone answers.
If we want to preserve our eco system, let's help them all. Let's help each 2 or 3 little hookers that we know and with whom we have a good memory with 100 or 150 for each if you can.
You will see, I am sure that when you see them again, you will fall into each other's arms with tears in your eyes.
Together we will defeat covid-19.
Many thanks for everyone.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Chacal60;2447389]I've helped two girls here in the LOS, with what is to me a very modest amount. Their government is not following through on promises of assistance, and that 5, 000 be is nothing to me but means everything to them. One of them sends me pictures of the healthy meals she is making for herself and her home bound sis, without appeals that I make it a regular thing.
We are all in this together.[/QUOTE]Yes, people do need to eat. Had a girl reach out to me that I hadn't seen for 3 years. We had message a few times over the years and she had never asked for money. I knew she was desperate to ask this time for money for food. She was probably expecting to get 1 k baht. I sent her 3 k to tide her over for a short while.
For those that asked why would I do that? Because I can!
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2447419]Yes, people do need to eat. Had a girl reach out to me that I hadn't seen for 3 years. We had message a few times over the years and she had never asked for money. I knew she was desperate to ask this time for money for food. She was probably expecting to get 1 k baht. I sent her 3 k to tide her over for a short while.
For those that asked why would I do that? Because I can![/QUOTE]Good for you Dg. It is so gratifying to see the conversation has shifted from "they are all scammers and don't need help" to the realization that there is genuine hardship out there. Girls who have stayed in situ still taking care of regular clients are probably OK but the majority have gone back home. Also important to remember that many of them also take care of their families from their earnings. So, it is good to see more members stepping up and doing their bit to help and as I said before a few hundred bath can make a difference in a poor village.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2447381]Again it is my impression and I may be wrong as quite often announcements are vague or incomplete that renewal of retirement visas has been extended to end of July for those currently unable to reenter Thailand.
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I stand corrected if this is not the situation but I would like to see a credible explanation where it is so stated.[/QUOTE]I don't know and have not seen anything reported on this. You may want to search on thepattayanews, Bangkok post or thaigers sites to find answers.
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Visa waivers
[QUOTE=Downandup;2447511]I don't know and have not seen anything reported on this. You may want to search on thepattayanews, Bangkok post or thaigers sites to find answers.[/QUOTE]Here:
[URL]https://thailand.prd.go.th/ewt_news.php?nid=9403&filename=index&fbclid=IwAR3YBYWvTe-kCWYsZjU5n8Zuo4rrgZHGU6IQce_35J1teHZC8mMCE_pT6qQ[/URL]
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2447385]I support this position. I've had requests from about half the girls in my Line, but I only send money to one girl. I encourage others to do the same thing. An amount that is almost trivial to us can be huge to them. "My" girl shares a tiny 4000 baht/month apartment with 3 other girls, so her share is about 32 USD per month. The shower/toilet/sink room is so small that she cannot position the camera to give a full length shower show. They are sleeping on the floor and cook very simple meals twice a day. No beds. No air conditioning. No TV. They do have WiFi and they can survive.
If you send money by Western Union, beware of the fees and exchange rates, which vary widely depending on exactly how you send the money. The most economical way to send it is directly from your bank account to hers. There will be no fees and the exchange rate isn't bad. The problem with that system is that it takes about 8 calendar days. Also not recommended if you have a wife that will look at your bank statement.
If you bring happiness to someone, that happiness will return to you.[/QUOTE]I too support this position and I have sent 3000 baht a couple of times. I used Transferwise to send and the fee was ridiculously small. The money arrived in about 2 hours.
C4 T.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2447512]Here:
[URL]https://thailand.prd.go.th/ewt_news.php?nid=9403&filename=index&fbclid=IwAR3YBYWvTe-kCWYsZjU5n8Zuo4rrgZHGU6IQce_35J1teHZC8mMCE_pT6qQ[/URL][/QUOTE]I've seen that and unfortunately it specifically only mentions permanent residencies not retirement visas. However my understanding is that all visas have been automatically extended to end of July. I'm due in August, hopefully it will have been resolved by then.
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On Sending Money
Presently I have 4 favorite repeat girls. 2 live in BKK and 2 live in Manila and they have all reached out and asked for monetary help thanks to the Corona.
One of my BKK girls is a great girl and I really like her. I call her Atomic because she had platinum blond hair the night I met her, she is dynamite in bed, and the movie "Atomic Blond" was on HBO later that first night. After we got to know each other a little I introduced her to Syzygies and Atomic tried to fix him up with one of her girlfriends. Anyway, she is a party girl and spends everything she earns. I have known her now for about 2. 5 years. During my last trip she was living in Phuket and I flew her up to BKK to spend a few days with me. I (we) had a great time! Then she went back to Phuket, but decided a couple weeks later to fly back up to BKK (on her own dime) to see me again. The 2nd visit was even better than the 1st. She was the 1st to ask for help back in March. I sent her $100 and told her that was it until I arrive in LOS. She was very appreciative and she has not asked for any more money. So far! 555.
My 2 Manila girls were next to ask and these 2 are close girlfriends. I have known them both since 2015 and have enjoyed many one on one's as well as roughly 30 threesomes together. So I either had to say no to both or send equal amounts to each girl which I did ($200 per girl). They haven't asked for more yet, ha ha, but I am sure they will if the lockdown continues.
My 4th girl is also the one I have known the longest time and I have mentioned Mini quite a few times on the BKK Reports thread. Long story short, I met her back in 2010 when she used to dance on the ground floor in Baccara Soi Cowboy. I can't believe I still see Mini after all these years, but I do. She is now 34 and semi retired. She was very reluctant to ask for help, never asked for money before, and I knew instantly by the sound in her voice when she called that she was in a tough situation and about to be kicked out of her BKK studio apartment. I sent her 3 months rent and food money and I know she appreciated the help.
So all told I have sent a good amount of money to these girls. Atomic, The 1st girl, probably frivolously threw the cash away. The 2 MNL girls probably spent it on food and other necessities for the children and maybe some booze to help pass the time. LOL. I know MNL is in near total lockdown. Mini, the last girl, is using the money to stay afloat in BKK so she does not have to go home to Isan broke after 10 or 11 years in the business.
The Wuhan Pandemic is a once in a lifetime event and these are my favorite girls. I have had a lot of good times with them and all I want is the good times to continue once I can get back to SE Asia. I don't expect anything extra from them. I just want them to be themselves. Michelle, one of my MNL girls, said she would pay me back. Ha Ha. I told her it was not necessary.
A few other girls have asked for money too, but I felt I did not know them well enough or long enough to warrant my helping them out financially. I can't afford to help everybody, but I am in a position to afford what I sent to my favorite girls and I am glad I could help. I have no regrets, in fact, I feel good about it.
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Sending money
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2447385]I support this position. I've had requests from about half the girls in my Line, but I only send money to one girl. I encourage others to do the same thing. An amount that is almost trivial to us can be huge to them. "My" girl shares a tiny 4000 baht/month apartment with 3 other girls, so her share is about 32 USD per month. The shower/toilet/sink room is so small that she cannot position the camera to give a full length shower show. They are sleeping on the floor and cook very simple meals twice a day. No beds. No air conditioning. No TV. They do have WiFi and they can survive.
If you send money by Western Union, beware of the fees and exchange rates, which vary widely depending on exactly how you send the money. The most economical way to send it is directly from your bank account to hers. There will be no fees and the exchange rate isn't bad. The problem with that system is that it takes about 8 calendar days. Also not recommended if you have a wife that will look at your bank statement.
If you bring happiness to someone, that happiness will return to you.[/QUOTE]I totally agree that sending a small amount of $$$ now is a reasonable thing to do. My girls (regulars) are in China and I have only sent a small amount to one girl, but I am tempted to send some $100? To another who tells how hard it is in Wuhan to live with no money. But she has not asked for any. I am an old guy (79 but don't look it) and I don't mind paying for my time with my girls, after all, why else would spend time with me?. For the one I sent $ to I told her that this was a deposit on our next time together. We'll see how that plays out.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2447545]However my understanding is that all visas have been automatically extended to end of July. I'm due in August, hopefully it will have been resolved by then.[/QUOTE]The extensions are for non-Thais already in Thailand whose visa or visa waiver expired after 26-March.
If my understanding is correct you are outside Thailand with a retirement visa (Non-Imm OA) or 12 month extension of stay to a Non-Imm O. The last I saw on this was:
[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2020/04/29/thai-government-spokesperson-says-they-are-aware-of-foreigners-with-valid-visas-trying-to-return-to-thailand-looking-at-situation/[/URL]
The emphasis is placed on people with work permits and those who have Thai dependants because at present the Thai dependants may possibly be repatriated but the non-Thai spouse (or whatever) cannot be.
In addition to the question of possible quarantine the requirement for US $100 k of medical coverage for Covid-19 is still in place (technically speaking, although with no foreigners coming in it may have slipped the memory).
August is 3 months away. A lot can change in 3 months and certainly has changed in the last 3 months!
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Still have no girls asking me for money. Feeling left out. I guess it pays to look and act like a broke ass bastard when I'm at the gogo bars. Either that or I just don't come across as a "jai dee".
I would consider a nominal amount (5-10k?) to my Freebie Girls but none have asked. Guess their Sponsors are already supporting them well.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2447630]Still have no girls asking me for money. Feeling left out.[/QUOTE]I'm sure we can find some girls to make you feel included.
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I would consider a nominal amount (5-10k?) to my Freebie Girls but none have asked. Guess their Sponsors are already supporting them well.[/QUOTE]You can ask them if they would like you to send them money. Except for some American girlfriends other girls I am with never refused money, gifts anytime. Usually girls give you better performance for helping them in times of need.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2447545]I've seen that and unfortunately it specifically only mentions permanent residencies not retirement visas. However my understanding is that all visas have been automatically extended to end of July. I'm due in August, hopefully it will have been resolved by then.[/QUOTE]I also took "permanent residencies" to include retirement visas. What is a "permanent residency" anyway? Is there such a thing in TH for foreigners? We're all kicking the can down the road with some type of visa.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2447545]I've seen that and unfortunately it specifically only mentions permanent residencies not retirement visas. However my understanding is that all visas have been automatically extended to end of July. I'm due in August, hopefully it will have been resolved by then.[/QUOTE]Yes, I too notice that link and others do not mention anything specifically about the kind of Non Immigrant OA (annual retirement) visa I have. I am in Thailand now and need to renew that visa before the end of this month, May.
I will not be taking any chances. I will get all my documents together and show up at Chang Wattana Immigration Office as usual, ready to spend the entire day (or two, if necessary) getting it done. Things can change by the day if not by the hour.
My feeling is it doesn't matter what we read on the internet or what our trusted friends in the same situation tell us happened to them at Immigration just yesterday. The only rules that apply are the ones in the mind of the particular Immigration Officer weilding the visa ink stamp at that particular desk at that particular hour on that particular day. Count on it being any other way in Thailand at your peril.