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Just had an interesting experience I thought I'd share. Have been on Blendr and Date In Asia, lining up some likely ladies, and one on Blendr contacted me, we chatted briefly, moved to WhatsApp and she started right on about how nice my photo was and how nicely I spoke (we were using the app's voice messaging) and she was very close by, lived in TST, so she'd like to visit me. Well, "if it's too good to be true it usually is" but I decided to play along and see how this went.

10 minutes later she messages me to say she's arrived, but says she's not in the lobby, she's on the first floor near the elevators – another alarm bell goes off, only a WL or FL would know the hotel that well and adopt this stealthy 'out of sight, protect the privacy of the client' tactic.

So we wander back to the room, make small talk and I sort of enjoy stringer her along with inane small talk, and then I basically say "And so, that's the small talk done, this would be the part when you tell me how much you're going to ask for". She starts this big spiel about how she is a successful fashion designer and her company pays her millions of (HK) dollars so she just does this on the side because she enjoys spending time with nice cultured men like me, "darling I make love to you so well you will fall in love with me, you never have a lover like me" yada yada yada. Then she says how for the first time the man should offer the lady a thank-you gratuity but for every visit after that, every time I come back to HK, it will be free, it's just that the first time if it's free it will seem like she had no value etc etc. So I say "Well, let's just have a getting-to-know-you session here, not overnight, just two hours. "Oh darling, after two hours you will want me by your side all night, trust me etc etc".

"Yes, I'm sure you are amazing and everything you say is true but let's just start with two hours." Okay, special price because she is very high-class expert lover, HK $4000.

Yep, HK $4000. US $500. For a few hours. At this point I'm already standing close to her, we've sort of hugged to close the deal, I smile and say "Way too much, try again."

She says "How much you pay" so I counter with $500, which admittedly for two hours in my room with a tall attractive enthusiastic freelancer would be a bargain. She acts insulted (probably is) and say $3000, so I took some enjoyment in being the one to run the tables a bit and just step away and say "well, it's $500, if that's not enough I'm sorry but you were the one who came up here, and you can leave now if you'd like."

She drops to $600, which I accept. I'd have accepted at $750, truth be told. The very fact she's down from $4000 to $600 for ST is telling in itself. So she moves to the bed and says "Okay, we make love now, you will be so very happy after. Now you pay me and then I shower."

Nope. Too many times has the "money before honey" ploy backfired. Admittedly more often than not when I've done it, there's been no drama, but I don't like this one's predatory nature and I'm staying in a famous five- star luxury hotel so not as if I'm going to short her.

So I reply with a smile "No, sorry, how this works is that I pay you after, not before. I'm willing to pay you $300 now and $300 later, but not $600 up front."

She's had enough of that, turns on her heels, says a curt goodnight and walks out the door – leaving her handbag behind!

I'm standing there smiling, counting "five, four, three, two." and the doorbell rings – I open it and give her her handbag, she storms off.

Yes, I could have paid $600 up front and I'm sure she would have been good in the sack, but her whole attitude was just too slick and well-practice, and it was nice to remind myself that we who are the clients are the ones who really call the shots in this. You have to be prepared to say 'no' with a smile, and walk away. There's plenty of fish still in the sea and with less hassle too.

I see there are two General Report sections / threads so I will post the same in both as not being a native of the HK board am unsure which is best.

A favourite of mine is in HK for a week and needs some advice etc.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1013-General-Info&p=2050362&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2050362.

Pics on the link (from Singapore), she is very pretty and submissive etc and nice company as well.

One picture just as a sampler.

PM me for details (and I don't mean the "can I have her digit bro" posters.

[QUOTE=BaddHabbit;2057642]Ummmm,

What is the difference between general reports under 'Blog Title' and general reports under 'User Blog', and which one should we be posting to under what circumstances?[/QUOTE]The top thread has 11,000+ reports.

The bottom one has 150 reports.

Use the top one.

This bottom one should be deleted.

[QUOTE=CaptRenno;2028738] ------In discussing escorts, guys always talk about the elusive "girlfriend experience" (GFE) in terms a specific acts that should occur during sex. I get that, but true GFE is more than that to me and sleeping peacefully next to Bee while dreaming of spending another day and night with her was more my idea of a true GFE.------[/QUOTE]Dear Captain:

I can tell from your description of your time in Hong Kong that the girl who you spent time with treated you extremely well (and no doubt vice versa). But, at the risk of sounding crass, the true GFE- to me- is not like having an actual girlfriend. After all, if the two of you had ended up marrying, you would not have written about her in a prostitution-devoted website. This would have been real a real girlfriend, not girlfriend like. In my view, real GFE (in mongerer's terms) is close to having being real boyfriend / girlfriend, but only during the time you are together.

GFE, in my view, is about a girl who treats you in bed (and in time up until you get into bed) by kissing (DFK) and giving a BBBJ prior to sex. Covered BJ are not GFE, ever. After sex, she snuggles and if you need more sex, she does not complain but enthusiastically does the deed again. All of this is a paid arrangement, but during the time you are together, you forget the P4 P nature of the encounter.

That is my definition of GFE. I have read many descriptions here of GFE that, in my opinion, simply are standard paid sex.

- Repost from the 'other' general reports thread. In town for a few days of business, but crossing a weekend due to other previous travel, so decided I had some time for a bit of play. On a previous visit I had tried out the 141 sites, then ended up just walking the halls at the Fuji Building, which was quite the experience.

This time, having wandered back into the older Forum pages, I read the RoD about K-Pressure and decided to take it at it's word about the imperative nature of making this place one of your HK experiences, so off I went. I went in with the full intention of running through several girls before making a choice. The first one in the door, Becky, was very average in the looks department. Face 4/10, Body 4/10, but then she whipped out a pair of 10/10 breasts. Large, full, soft, big nipples, just generally yummy, and I remembered the other note from the RoD, "choose a girl with good breasts". Yep, I went with Becky.

First off, her idea of kissing was to stick out her tongue and leave it there for you to suck on. It truly is all muscle, isn't it? Not that much to get worked up about there, I'm afraid. The shower was nice, no BJ involved, just a thorough wash up, but fun playing with the water balloons.

Then it was time for the soapy massage. I must admit here this is the first time I have had this done, so I had built up a huge aura of anticipation around this. Becky was. Well, she sounded a bit like Anna Kournikova on the tennis court (not that I would object to sex with Anna, just not while she is in the middle of playing tennis. On the centre court of Wimbledon). Long drawn out grunt "Uuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnhhhh" on the upslide, and a "Wooooooooooooossssshhhhh" on the downslide. Very, ummm, rhythmic. It was indeed rather distracting, and definitely would have been much better without the sound effects. HOWEVER, that RoD was definitely right about the breasts! When she started running them down the crack of my ass, that definitely got my attention. Yep, liked that!

After I rolled over the martial breathing routine subsided a bit, but when she moved onto a BJ finally, we got stage 2 - the bellows: "Whee-woo, whee-woo, whee-woo". And the motion, may as well have been one of those toys for guys, not even sure it ever touched the sides, she definitely had her angles down pat! Straight fucking was pretty good, cowgirl, then doggy, then miss. In miss, I reached behind and pushed a finger up her ass, and that got her attention (though I had given her plenty of time to read my attention and object). The little squeak each time I pushed in was the first real sound heard, and helped get me over the edge in the end.

She held my hand on the way out, as on the way in, and at the door offered up the tongue rod for another suck before saying goodbye. All in all, a 'strange' experience, and one that I may have to retry elsewhere in the future to get the full effect from. But hey, that's one item off the list of 'must do in Hong Kong'!

Too many fish in the sea, and it seems she didn't waste too much of your time.

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;2057746]Just had an interesting experience I thought I'd share. Have been on Blendr and Date In Asia, lining up some likely ladies, and one on Blendr contacted me, we chatted briefly, moved to WhatsApp and she started right on about how nice my photo was and how nicely I spoke (we were using the app's voice messaging) and she was very close by, lived in TST, so she'd like to visit me. Well, "if it's too good to be true it usually is" but I decided to play along and see how this went.

10 minutes later she messages me to say she's arrived, but says she's not in the lobby, she's on the first floor near the elevators another alarm bell goes off, only a WL or FL would know the hotel that well and adopt this stealthy 'out of sight, protect the privacy of the client' tactic.

So we wander back to the room, make small talk and I sort of enjoy stringer her along with inane small talk, and then I basically say "And so, that's the small talk done, this would be the part when you tell me how much you're going to ask for". She starts this big spiel about how she is a successful fashion designer and her company pays her millions of (HK) dollars so she just does this on the side because she enjoys spending time with nice cultured men like me, "darling I make love to you so well you will fall in love with me, you never have a lover like me" yada yada yada. Then she says how for the first time the man should offer the lady a thank-you gratuity but for every visit after that, every time I come back to HK, it will be free, it's just that the first time if it's free it will seem like she had no value etc etc. So I say "Well, let's just have a getting-to-know-you session here, not overnight, just two hours. "Oh darling, after two hours you will want me by your side all night, trust me etc etc".

"Yes, I'm sure you are amazing and everything you say is true but let's just start with two hours." Okay, special price because she is very high-class expert lover, HK $4000.

Yep, HK $4000. US $500. For a few hours. At this point I'm already standing close to her, we've sort of hugged to close the deal, I smile and say "Way too much, try again."

She says "How much you pay" so I counter with $500, which admittedly for two hours in my room with a tall attractive enthusiastic freelancer would be a bargain. She acts insulted (probably is) and say $3000, so I took some enjoyment in being the one to run the tables a bit and just step away and say "well, it's $500, if that's not enough I'm sorry but you were the one who came up here, and you can leave now if you'd like."

She drops to $600, which I accept. I'd have accepted at $750, truth be told. The very fact she's down from $4000 to $600 for ST is telling in itself. So she moves to the bed and says "Okay, we make love now, you will be so very happy after. Now you pay me and then I shower."

Nope. Too many times has the "money before honey" ploy backfired. Admittedly more often than not when I've done it, there's been no drama, but I don't like this one's predatory nature and I'm staying in a famous five- star luxury hotel so not as if I'm going to short her.

So I reply with a smile "No, sorry, how this works is that I pay you after, not before. I'm willing to pay you $300 now and $300 later, but not $600 up front."

She's had enough of that, turns on her heels, says a curt goodnight and walks out the door leaving her handbag behind!

I'm standing there smiling, counting "five, four, three, two." and the doorbell rings I open it and give her her handbag, she storms off.

Yes, I could have paid $600 up front and I'm sure she would have been good in the sack, but her whole attitude was just too slick and well-practice, and it was nice to remind myself that we who are the clients are the ones who really call the shots in this. You have to be prepared to say 'no' with a smile, and walk away. There's plenty of fish still in the sea and with less hassle too.[/QUOTE]

General tips if you're trying to get casual hookups via the likes of Blendr or Date In Asia.

* obviously, if she's a DH or OFW (as listed in DIA profiles) you're almost certainly going to face a nightly curfew and only one day off each week, typically a Sunday although some have this on Saturdays or Mondays, so factor that into your schedule and if you're looking for company beyond that Sunday, add other women with different jobs and more flexible schedules to your roster.

* a few DH / OFW women do have an arrangement where they bunk with some friends on the night of their day off, so this provides an extra opportunity and if they're bunking in a shared boarding house place then a sleepover at your hotel room is going to be very appealing to them.

* in my experience you need to have a lot of irons in the DH / OFW fire because most of them will go cold. You might chat to a dozen women, half of them will be interested in meeting up but come the day before or the day itself nothing will eventuate, they will have other things to do or your messages will be unanswered. All you need is one or two you *can* arrange, but chase up as many as sensible to allow for this drop-off factor.

So here's a quick summary of how my weekend in HK played out, using Blendr and Date In Asia to fish for free fun.

I've already detailed the Chinese freelancer who wanted HK $4000 for a short stay, and will skip the dead ends (many!) and the disappointments (one who was keen to come and spend Sunday here and use my hotel's excellent swimming pool until her period arrived, thus ruling out both her use of the pool and my use of her).

Saturday afternoon: via Date in Asia, a 20 something Filo DH who has half a day off for a medical appointment, so she arranges to visit my hotel, I figure this will either be a quickie or a way to check her out and see if I'm interested in investing time with her on Sunday, as Sunday is a day when limited time meets high supply.

I try the 'bold as brass' route and having met her in the hotel lobby, guide her straight upstairs and into my room, making sure there's enough patter and chit-chat to smooth over that obvious move. She's still taken aback by it, and says so but doesn't complain or leave. But she's way too shy and stiff to yield anything of interest, she can't stay long any way, so I let her go and drop her down onto my the list (D = if I am 'Desperate'.

Saturday: via Blendr, a 40 something Filo DH who's slim and sexy, works for a family who lets her stay out on Saturday night ahead of her Sunday off. We chat online a bit, do a WeChat video session and all's good at both ends, I like her and she likes me. She swings by the hotel in the evening after dinner at her home, again we go straight to my room (benefits of a room on a very high floor of one of the city's finest hotels with an amazing iconic view, it has a great 'wow' factor in itself and can of course be used as an 'excuse' to show them the room if necessary).

This one has no troubles with going straight to the room, she knows what this is about, and so I then throttle back a bit and we chat over beers from the minibar, then we move into the reason we're both in the room, and she's fairly exemplar as to why these older women can be beat the young ones, might not have the sexy toned 20 something body but what she's got she knows how to use. Enthusiastic and total GFE with uncovered BBBJ and (for round two) BBBJTC / CIM / swallow. She stays the night, loving this fine spacious room and large comfy bed, and departs a happy lady in the morning (would have offered her breakfast but I'm travelling with colleagues and don't want to risk being seen non-solo, just as well as I do indeed bump into them when I go down for breakfast five minutes after she leaves). Later she contacts me, turns out she left a piece of jewellery in the room, so she comes back mid-afternoon to collect it and we enjoy another round. No money, no drama, no expectations beyond that we each enjoy ourselves. This is what it's all about, or at least should be.

Sunday: via Blendr, a curvy 20 something Indo DH whose profile reads funny, playful and a bit sexy. It's early evening, but after a little banter in Blendr chat she agrees to come to the hotel for her remaining hours before 9 pm curfew. It's raining so she takes a taxi and asks if I'll pay for it; I agree to, but also ask if this visit is to have a commercial aspect (bearing in mind the Chinese freelancer) because if so, I'd rather know up front so we're both on the same page. She replies that no, she'd just like to spend time with me but taxi is the best way there. Okay, I'm fine with that. Meet her downstairs, she's bubbly and chatty and easy-going, and I get the distinct impression that she's barely a casual freelancer, she's just a nice girl stuck in a crap job to pay for her kid & her whole family back in Indonesia.

Straight up to the room and she's already holding my hand, then hugging me and kissing me, no shyness here. We shower together and then it's onto the main event as we explore each other's bodies. She's another GFE with plenty of passion & tongue in the kissing, mutual oral, BBBJ, all positions until I explode as she rides me in cowgirl. We talk between rounds and yes, my analysis is bang on – this is no con job or spin, she's just a sweet girl caught in this job and making the most of it. She's paid HK $4 k / month, doesn't include meals, and a fair slab of her money goes home to pay for son, her dead-beat brother, and her sister with three kids whose hubby is in jail. FFS! And yet she's bubbly and tries not to let it get her down.

We approach round two more slowly, more languid but it's equally enjoyable, and for me finishes with a repeat of the 40 something round #2 as I get a superb BBBJ with CIM. More talk and close cuddles in bed, then it's time to go. She hops into the shower, I take an envelope from the stationery desk and write her a thank-you note and slip in HK $1000. This is $170 for me, aka an hour's wage, but it is a week's wage for her and she's spending her money the right way. It's what I *could* have paid to the mercenary Chinese freelancer two nights before, but this girl deserves it way more. I hand her the envelope, saying it's her taxi money and a little extra, and she doesn't even open it, just hugs me with true happiness before I walk her downstairs.

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;2057621]Fanda Pharmacy has been referenced here a few times before for supplying prescription drugs over the counter. I swung by this afternoon after checking into my hotel and, so as an additional set of data points, here's what I got.
* Hippigra: a generic Viagra, 4 x 100 MG tablets (break into halves for 8 x 50 MG, I find 50 MG is sufficient).[/QUOTE]Fanda also sells legit Viagra for $500. For comparison, Hippigra is $250.

I read elsewhere that they also sell something to prevent premature ejaculation if you don't want Hippigra. Anyone ever hear of this?

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2057803]I see there are two General Report sections / threads so I will post the same in both as not being a native of the HK board am unsure which is best.

A favourite of mine is in HK for a week and needs some advice etc.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1013-General-Info&p=2050362&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2050362.

Pics on the link (from Singapore), she is very pretty and submissive etc and nice company as well.

One picture just as a sampler.

PM me for details (and I don't mean the "can I have her digit bro" posters.[/QUOTE]Your url did not post

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1013-General-Info&p=2050362&viewfull=1#post2050362[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Forest;2057967]Dear Captain:

I can tell from your description of your time in Hong Kong that the girl who you spent time with treated you extremely well (and no doubt vice versa). But, at the risk of sounding crass, the true GFE- to me- is not like having an actual girlfriend. After all, if the two of you had ended up marrying, you would not have written about her in a prostitution-devoted website. This would have been real a real girlfriend, not girlfriend like. In my view, real GFE (in mongerer's terms) is close to having being real boyfriend / girlfriend, but only during the time you are together.

GFE, in my view, is about a girl who treats you in bed (and in time up until you get into bed) by kissing (DFK) and giving a BBBJ prior to sex. Covered BJ are not GFE, ever. After sex, she snuggles and if you need more sex, she does not complain but enthusiastically does the deed again. All of this is a paid arrangement, but during the time you are together, you forget the P4 P nature of the encounter.

That is my definition of GFE. I have read many descriptions here of GFE that, in my opinion, simply are standard paid sex.[/QUOTE]I suspect many GFEs, of the paid kind, out there at it sounds like a major contributor to the drug resistant STD in the current news cycle.

[QUOTE=Applesauce;2058424]I read elsewhere that they also sell something to prevent premature ejaculation if you don't want Hippigra. Anyone ever hear of this?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;2057621]
I left behind the itemised breakdown (sorry!) but total bill was HK $333, or US $42, so not very expensive at all.[/QUOTE]Viagra went generic a couple years ago. Many meds can be bought without scrips in HK at the local pharmacy But there is a risk that it could be fake.

Google is your friend on the premature thing. Suspect extra lube, loose pussy or topical anesthetic or cock ring will do the job. Never tried teething products myself. LOL.

Is it full sex or just a hand job?

[QUOTE=Leche;2014484]Go to [URL]www.kamaspahk.com[/URL].

It's in Lan Kwai Fong.

Hot girls, you'll pay about 900 and leave very happy.

Clean place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Applesauce;2058424]Fanda also sells legit Viagra for $500. For comparison, Hippigra is $250.[/QUOTE]FWIW, the Hippigra didn't seem nearly as effective as I expected – not sure if it's a lower-grade copy, or that I'm accustomed to Cialis, which I've picked up at other HK pharmacies (also sans prescription).

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;2058843]FWIW, the Hippigra didn't seem nearly as effective as I expected not sure if it's a lower-grade copy, or that I'm accustomed to Cialis, which I've picked up at other HK pharmacies (also sans prescription).[/QUOTE]I assume you know the dosages are different ;-D)

Kind of like Tylenol, but much greater magnitude!

Your doctor should advise you though the counter will too.