Jakarta

[QUOTE=JXXXL;2059361]I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.[/QUOTE]I like the venues in North Jakarta. That's really the only place I go. I have looked all over the North looking for a decent hotel, probably stayed in 6 different places, but really haven't found anything I liked. The Grand Mercure Harmoni is the best located for what you are after but I found it to be a pretty weak 4 star experience with bad breakfasts. The Pullman at Central Park is better but much further away, however a quick trip to and from the airport. You could always stay at Travel Hotel which is attached to a decent club.

If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic.

Sounds like a good time. Enjoy!

Well I was once again back in Jakarta for my holiday and relaxation. Fortunately this time around I didn't have any issues with the Immigration, but I did carry my passport with me at all times, even if I was going to KFC / McD's. Ok so my report focuses on three different methods / operations while I was in Jakarta.

As usual I stayed most of the times at the Novotel Gajah Mada and this time I decided to try the old guy and his "ladies", he is always outside the Wendy's near the LTC Glodok mall. He quoted 500 k for ST, so I decided to try it out and as well it would save me the WOS as I am now quite well know at this hotel. So he brought two girls for me to choose from one was cheery and friendly and the other seems as though she was forced to be there, so I choose the friendly girl. All was ok at first light chit-chat etc but time to service she refused to shower. Now for me that a huge turnoff especially not knowing where she just had been. So I told her to leave, no shower no action. Lesson learned, I sent the old man a text but he never replied, so NEVER again.

Second I decided to try the services on WeChat found a few listings and pictures and connected with a small beauty to come to the hotel. Ha, learned another lesson pictures on the Websites are not as the person who may show up. This girl showed up and wouldn't remove her hand from the peep hole for me to se who was outside the door. I should have realized that something was not right but eventually I opened the door and much to my surprise she was a middle age overweight masseur. I would have settled for the massage but that stunt with the peep hole really got me furious and the fact that she didn't look as the picture on the web I told her to leave. At first she wouldn't so I called security but she changed her mind and decided to leave before security showed, gave her taxi fare but she threw it back at me. Oh well next time send the girl in the photo.

Next my adventures in Blok M I am a usual at My Bar so most of the girls and staff know me my sight. But some of the girls that I met were not of quality that I am used to finding at My Bar. Did meet some new girls who at first quoted me 1. 5 M for ST one actually quoted me 2. 5 M for ST and proceeded to tell me that is the standard rate in Blok M.

Of course I knew better when I am quoted such high prices I just can't be bothered as I know one of my usual girl (s) will show up eventually.

Did hop over to Top Gun a few times a lot more availability there but never really hit on any girl in TG, unless I can dance with you and feel your vibe I won't take a girl blindly, as it may turn out to be a bad decision. When I can dance and speak with them up close I can assess their movements.

Well that's it for my July adventure in Jakarta, will return in December.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;2061465]
Second I decided to try the services on WeChat found a few listings and pictures and connected with a small beauty to come to the hotel. Ha, learned another lesson pictures on the Websites are not as the person who may show up. This girl showed up and wouldn't remove her hand from the peep hole for me to see who was outside the door. I should have realized that something was not right but eventually I opened the door and much to my surprise she was a middle age overweight masseur. I would have settled for the massage but that stunt with the peep hole really got me furious and the fact that she didn't look as the picture on the web I told her to leave. At first she wouldn't so I called security but she changed her mind and decided to leave before security showed, gave her taxi fare but she threw it back at me. Oh well next time send the girl in the photo.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine a much worse experience. I've tried wechat many times and only once had an experience nearly that bad. I had some old fat scrag massage me once and she was falling asleep and burping. I threw her out and refused to pay. I don't mind an old fat scrag massaging me sometimes if I just want a good massage. They normally actually do give the best massages. This one was just horrible (although it was 4am, so I can understand her being tired). However, if I had been in your situation, I would have turned your woman away as well up front. Her blocking that peep hole is crap. I'm lucky in that I live in a place where I can hear people coming before they get near my door. I would have been watching her far before she could have covered the peep hole.

If you only look at the profile photo of the wechat user, that means nothing. They just post any photo at all to hook you. If I am hoping for sex or even want to ensure it won't be some scrag (it's nice to have a young cutie to look at), I normally ask them to send me a photo of the actual girl. They will send photos pretty much every time if you ask. If the photo is a glamour shot, I will likely disregard it. If it's a normal photo not photoshopped, it's usually fairly close to what the girl looks like.

Here's a story of a wechat massage chick I had come over recently. I haven't had much luck with the girls on wechat who promote themselves as call girls, but the ones who say there is "no sex" seem to surprise at times. And sex is usually on the table even though they say it isn't at first.

It's around 3 am and I want just a massage. I open Wechat and the normal hundred or so massage places popped to the screen. I send messages to 5 different massage places. The first two that respond are not interesting because one provides heavily edited glamour photos and the other doesn't have photos to send (a clear sign it will be an old fat woman coming). There is one where the photo in their profile is somewhat normal (of course it was not the girl who visited me, but that's ok. Those are just pimps running those profiles, not the girls themselves.). They respond that the price is 250 k for massage only (no sex). I ask to see photos of the girls and I ask for a girl with big tits and young if possible. They send three photos and two of the three look ok. These are simply photos of some normally dressed girls with hardly any makeup sitting on a concrete floor. Nothing stunning, but I pick the one who looks to have the biggest tits. I offer 200 k for that girl to come and give me a massage and they agree. I am tired and not really keen for any action other than massage, but figure if the girl has big tits and young, that might change that.

The girl shows up about a half hour later. It's definitely the girl from the photo. She is a shy girl wearing sloppy jeans and a red t-shirt. It's obvious that she's packing some nice tits under that shirt. She's about 5 foot 5, so fairly tall for an indo girl, and fairly slim other than the tits. She's obviously fairly fresh out of the village because of the way she carries herself. No makeup at all, but she isn't bad looking even without makeup and has a great body, very shag worthy.

We go to the bedroom and I strip naked. She gets on the bed fully clothed and starts massaging me. I start out watching the indonesian dangdut channel on tv and carry on a casual conversation with her in Bahasa Indonesia. What's your name? How old are you? Where are you from originally? How long have you been in Jakarta? Yada yada yada. Occasionally, I let my hands slightly graze her body as she works. When she starts to seem more comfortable with me, I ask her about special massage. At first she says "no mister, cannot". I say ok, but ask again a few minutes later, and still no. Then I changed the TV show and put on a soft porno dvd. Haha. She acts like she isn't watching it, but it's obvious she's interested. Nearing the end of the massage, I ask again about special massage. I tell her that I am a good guy and generous. She says no again. I offer 800 k and then she starts to think about it. She asks for 2 million, but I say again 800 k and that's as high as I will go. She thinks about it a while then agrees to 800 k for full sex rather than the 200 k I was going to pay for just the massage. I would have tipped her 100 k anyway, so it's really only 500 k more than I was already going to pay for just the massage. Off comes the red t-shirt and the sloppy jeans to reveal a fantastic 19 year old body. This chick has awesome tits! She wasn't the best shag in the world, but due to her young firm body and nice tits, it was very nice indeed and a great ending to the massage. She was out the door and I was asleep 5 minutes after she left. I haven't always had such a nice experience with wechat or other phone apps, but you never know.

I have had a lot of guys sending me PMs lately asking me for numbers of girls to send to their room and I have to admit that I have replied to none of them. Unfortunately, due to some past bad experiences, I only provide numbers to guys I have met in person. However, all you need to do is pop open the wechat app or some other similar app and roll the dice. You may find a gem.

I've attached a photo of the massage girl. I had to block her face and edited the background to protect the innocent. But the tits are great in any case.

Indeed. Thanks, Smoothy. Yes, some of those Indo girls have some great shapes.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2061553] But the tits are great in any case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2055467]Yeah, with a grand total of 18 public posts, that's very believable -- NOT.

Why would anyone even bother asking you for advice over PM with such a thin public posting history?[/QUOTE]Does it really matter what you care?

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2061430]I like the venues in North Jakarta. That's really the only place I go. I have looked all over the North looking for a decent hotel, probably stayed in 6 different places, but really haven't found anything I liked. The Grand Mercure Harmoni is the best located for what you are after but I found it to be a pretty weak 4 star experience with bad breakfasts. The Pullman at Central Park is better but much further away, however a quick trip to and from the airport. You could always stay at Travel Hotel which is attached to a decent club.

If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic.

Sounds like a good time. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Thanks SB, great info.

[QUOTE=DubyaMan88;2062759]Does it really matter what you care?[/QUOTE]He speaks for those who take your words with a pinch of salt.

Hi,

Been reading the Jakarta forum for a while now as I am planning in a month or 2 lately there hadn't been many post. Are mongers on leave?? Also how is the mayor doing about closing P4P shops? Any info just curious as I like indo better than Thai as they are too commercial.

[QUOTE=OldSnake;2063124]Hi,

Been reading the Jakarta forum for a while now as I am planning in a month or 2 lately there hadn't been many post. Are mongers on leave?? Also how is the mayor doing about closing P4P shops? Any info just curious as I like indo better than Thai as they are too commercial.[/QUOTE]Nothing has changed, nothing has closed.

Just returned from Jakarta last night, and I have to say there are many opportunities for a monger. My first visit was to the Hotel Classic on the second floor. Quite a few nice looking young and thin girls. Was greeted by a mamasan who offered me a shapely 22 year old girl, that I liked but I took time to decide. I have to admit I felt out of place, as the girls did not appear to be very keen on a middle aged bule, but my primary directive was to get laid so I had to not to take it personally. I thought the mamasans were totally useless, and the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. Fuck it, so I decided to go with the original girl and after much debate about CBJ vs BBJ she agreed to the latter. Really nice body, no GFE, no English, no kissing, but a decent fuck. For 325,000 rupiah I cannot complain. I would return whether they like it or not haha.

My last night in Indonesia I spent at the Orchidz Hotel (Jalan Industri). The hotel is not bad at all and an excellent value. I checked out the Glamour Spa and Massage on the third floor, and it felt very much like the experience I had in mainland China. After three weeks on the Java island, being the only bule was a standard experience for me by now. Really nice looking girls handing out the numbered bracelets and assigning a girl. When the girl was ready the lovely attendant took me to the service provider, namely Sita #12. A nice 20 year old spinner, that provided a surprisingly thorough and good massage. Sita had a nice body, and complained about the size of my member, which for some inexplicable reason fit just fine into her lovely pussy. Again, no GFE, no kissing, watching TV, no bbj. After spending a good time with me and unable to cum she took off my condom and provided a bbj with a successful outcome. The damage was 725,000 rupiah.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2063434]the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. [/QUOTE]You think Indo girls don't like white middle aged guys? You are generalizing based on your experiences at two places in an area where they cater to locals and Chinese. I also do not have good experiences in those places even though I speak Indonesian. Try going to places where white guys hang out and the girls can speak English. My bet is that your perspective will change. The level of service and GFE with those type of girls in Indonesia is fantastic. If I have white friends visiting Jakarta, I never recommend places like Hotel Classic or Orchardz Industri. I recommend places like CJs, ,BATS, and Top Gun. I don't even recommend that they stay in North Jakarta. It's a crap hole. However, you will have to pay more for girls who can speak English. If you are looking for a dirt cheap price like you paid at Classic, you aren't going to find many girls who are interested in white middle aged men. In BATS at Hotel Shangri-La, the girl's panties get wet when they see guys like that walk in.

I was hoping that my report did not come out as a generalization, but as a personal experience. I always try to avoid generalization, and my limited observations were meant to be only a reflection of what happened to me. I had restricted freedom of movement and time to venture out, and this affected my choices. Indeed I will come back and visit Block M, and the other two places you mentioned. Where do you recommend your friends to stay. Hope to be back in February.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2063445]You think Indo girls don't like white middle aged guys? You are generalizing based on your experiences at two places in an area where they cater to locals and Chinese. I also do not have good experiences in those places even though I speak Indonesian. Try going to places where white guys hang out and the girls can speak English. My bet is that your perspective will change. The level of service and GFE with those type of girls in Indonesia is fantastic. If I have white friends visiting Jakarta, I never recommend places like Hotel Classic or Orchardz Industri. I recommend places like CJs, ,BATS, and Top Gun. I don't even recommend that they stay in North Jakarta. It's a crap hole. However, you will have to pay more. If you are looking for a dirt cheap price like you paid at Classic, you aren't going to find girls who are interested in white middle aged men.[/QUOTE]

What's your budget? I recommend The Grove Suites, but it's close to $100 usd a night. The best place to stay for mongering at CJs is Hotel Mulia and for BATS at Shangri-La, but both of those are about $200 usd a night. There are cheaper options in blok m if that's the way you want to go. You can find them on Agoda.

Last week I was in Jakarta for just over a week and I visited a few places in my favorite area to the north.

Saturday night I was meant to meet up with a colleague at Malio bar but he bailed on me at the last minute so I went in there alone about 9:00 PM.

Entrance fee for Maliboro is Rp130 K but this is deducted off your final bill so it's sort of a minimum charge to keep out the "tyre kickers."

I planned to go to the bar first at the back but decided to go to the lounges on the second floor directly above the lobby.

There are two rooms there, one is a smaller lounge with a live band and the other opposite it is a much larger room with a stage and dancers, a bar, mamasans with some import wanita and on a sunken floor to the left are couches with local wanita.

I had a long discussion with a rather young and attractive mamamsan. She told me she was 38.

Prices quoted were imports starting at Rp1. 4 mil and locals Rp1. 1 mil. Some dancers were also available at a price of Rp1. 7 mil. One of the cutest dancers told me that not all the dancers will ML but she was keen if I was interested. The dancer tried to sell me " lady drinks" for Rp50 K and I asked her how much she gets from the Rp50 K and she said only Rp10 K. I said instead of buying her a lady drink I'd tip her Rp50 K directly which she accepted enthusiastically and asked me to put the cash in her panties at the front where she held my hand hard up against her pussy inside the panties for a short time and let me play with her tits. All the dancers were wearing bikinis and took turns dancing and stripping on the stage through the evening.

I asked the mamasan if she herself was available and with a laugh she wrote down Rp3. Mil. On a paper napkin.

Finally I said to the mamasan I'd take one of the local girls so she took me down to sunken floor to chose from the whole lot as I didn't want a parade on the higher level.

Most of the wanita looked bored and were playing on their phones, the mamasan suggested I take a particular one but I have always felt that the one they try to push on you are the least popular ones and the mamasans are trying to share the business around with them all. The one she chose was like a '6' anyway.

One cutie was sitting by herself and laughing at her phone. I chose her as she looked the least bored. She told me later she was laughing as she was looking at a funny video.

Her name was Lina from Central Java and I hit the jackpot. Really cute, beautiful body and she gave me the perfect GFE. I tipped her Rp200 K she was that good.

She gave me her phone number as so did the mamasan.

I then went over to Malio bar second level for a look and the first thing I noticed was it was so noisy compared to the lounge I'd just been in. Several dancers approached me for lady drinks but I declined and shortly after I left and returned to my hotel nearby.

[QUOTE=JXXXL;2059361]I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

I'm planning a golf trip with a group of about 10 guys. *One thing I'm grappling with is whether to stay in central or north Jakarta. *I've stayed in central Jakarta many times and done BATS and*CJ's as have some of the group. *I'm thinking I'd like to try Alexis, Malio and maybe some clubs and I heard there are some good ones in north Jakarta. *I'd also like to avoid the sausage fest at CJ's, and with 10 guys, we'd only be adding to it.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.[/QUOTE]I really enjoy North Jakarta over the other places you have mentioned. I was just there a week ago and will post some field reports over the next few days.