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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2719253]In case you haven't noticed twerp, Russia has suffered major battfield deaths, 10's of 1000's and including many in the higher ranks. Much of this has been the result of their laughable "jack in the box" death trap tanks. They are currently ducking and hiding, overwhelmed by artillery in Melitopol.[/QUOTE]I noticed they have almost complete control of Lugansk and Donetsk meathead.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719305] Ukrainian soldiers are fierce and well-motivated warriors defending their homeland, [/QUOTE]True, but they're marching into the meat grinder for delusional fools like you.
If it were Poland, there would be a line of Western men ready to fight.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719305]Gee, let me make it easy for you.
1. Ukraine's population is 40 million vs. Russia's 140 millions. Ukrainian soldiers are fierce and well-motivated warriors defending their homeland, while Russians are [I]contractnicks[/I] fighting for money. You do know that Putin calls it a "special military operation" (too scared to even call it a war). Until and unless they declare full mobilization, Russia simply doesn't have enough soldiers. Simple as that. They're already recruiting in jails and prisons.
2. If they do mobilize, that will be another disaster. Young Russian men don't want to go to war, no matter what they say in surveys. And why should they? Contractnicks at least get paid. They do get cheated, though, but still. So why should young conscripts get killed for free?
3. Modest Russian successes so far owe it exclusively to supreme, 20:1, Russia's artillery advantages. HIMARS have already changed this landscape. In the last few days, Ukrainians have destroyed at least 20 high-value targets including weapon, fuel depots and command centers. And there are many more to come. In the meantime, Russia has already used up most of its high-precision artillery, and the sanctions all but ensure they won't be able to replace them quickly enough.[/QUOTE]Please explain to me how Ukraine can win? This is very simple question. Again having half of your country completely destroyed and god knows how many lives will be lost, is not winning.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2719301]Nonsense. The primary aim is to support democracy in Europe in the face of the worst unprovoked aggression there since World War II. We are providing aid as we should, but the ultimate outcome is undetermined as much of it depends on the Ukrainians, who have a strong desire to fight to preserve their identity. It would be nice if they can drive the terrorists completely off their land, but more likely their efforts will strengthen their position at the negotiating table. Russia is suffering plenty, by sanctions and loss of life and equipment on the battlefield.
Whatever you call a "shit show" has improved the lives of Americans and our allies as terrorism directed at us has been greatly reduced. As to Russia, they've seen improvements in the past as the result of regime changes, plus a free Russia in the future isn't out of the question given that many of their young appreciate the Western way of life. But in any case, seeing that you feel so strongly about this, how many letters have you sent out to Republican congressmen and senators outlining your arguments? The overwhelming majority support Ukraine's war effort.
Once again regime change isn't the aim, though this would be nice if the Russian people take care of the problem themselves. And you have "zero way of knowing" if a Putin replacement might be less psychopathic and homicidal. In fact there's a good chance they would be. But this is another straw man as there's very little we can "know" about the future with certainty. Thus such never justifies inaction. Duh..[/QUOTE]Pauline you are crazy. Russia is not a threat to Europe, they can not even win in Ukraine. You Dem. Want to blame everything on Russia, it is your poor leadership and even worse policy. Russia is not too blame for everything.
You guys should be thanking Trump for saving the economy during the the pandemic, if he would have lockdown everything we would be in even bigger financial crisis. Yes, he is a bad guy, but he gets things done unlike your liberal buddies.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2719044]Unlike all these fucking Dems who have been lying about Putin for years[/QUOTE]This easily is the stupidest remark from your post, ass kissing a psycho dictator while enjoying American freedoms. The truth about that scumbag is plenty enough for anyone with a conscience and sense of humanity as he murders political opponents, jails those who disagree with him while attacking a sovereign country unprovoked, lies about Nazis when these are less than 2% of the Ukrainian population, whines about NATO when Eastern countries joined by their own volition, murders civilians, etc. He doesn't care about NATO anyway as he affirmed that he doesn't mind Finland and Sweden joining. He wants Ukraine's ports, farmlands, and industry plus empire in the bigger picture.
Plus the consensus in the US is overwhelming, as only the far right ass clown Repubs like Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene don't support Ukraine. Only 11 Repub senators dissented on the latest Ukraine aid package, which is a point you've ignored a dozen times. You don't even have the balls to acknowledge or even quote the fact as it overturns your whining that it's all about the Dems. No it's about democracy versus authoritarianism, and generally a minority of lowlifes that need to be placed on the sidelines in our politics.
[QUOTE=Riina;2719326]I noticed they have almost complete control of Lugansk and Donetsk meathead.[/QUOTE]Russia has had strong footings in those areas for eight years, but tucked and ran from Kyiv and Kharkiv, planning to take over Ukraine in less than a week but only have 10's of 1000's of dead soldiers (far more than they lost in nine years in Afghanistan) huge equipment loses, cripling sanctions, and marginal territorial gains to show for it. It's a disaster for them no matter what happens from here.
But look up Melitopol, Ruskies are hiding inside as Ukraine is making gains with their new artillery systems. Then if you can, try to come up with a conscience for your empty soul so you'll know who you should be supporting in this conflict.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2719321]You live in a dream world. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I live in a dream world! Again, Moscow and St. Petersburg aren't Russia. Real Russia is hurting, bleeding, losing job security, their savings and the roof over their heads. And it's going to become much worse before NEVER getting better.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2719321]Even CNN says the sanctions are not working, but you conveniently leave these details out. This is what happens when we back Ukraine and forget to produce oil. You are making Putin stronger and richer.[/QUOTE]I don't care what you or CNN are saying. Just 4 months into this shit, and Russia doesn't have the automotive industry anymore. That's just one industry. And the shit hasn't even hit the fan yet.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2719321]As I said, the Ukraine army as done a great job, but there is no way they can keep it up. This only happens in your Video Game, this is real life and war is horrible.[/QUOTE]Big empty words. You're just blaming the victim and want them to capitulate.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2719321]Then you have the crazy ass Pres. Z, claiming they will never negotiate. [/QUOTE]When did he claim that? Care to back this up?
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2719321]In the next couple of weeks the CIA will pull him into a dark room and tell him come up with a solution or compromise. If refuses the support will begin to dwindle, this has to come to end.[/QUOTE]Right, and it's me who's living in a dream world? LOL.
[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2719321][b]All Ukraine had to do is behave[/b][/QUOTE]Here we go. No matter how hard you try, you can't hide those long-ass ears of a Russian shill.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10998887/Conscripts-given-call-papers-beaches-Ukraine.html[/URL]
Zelensky is running out of lemmings. Sign up. Stop a Russian bullet. Take up for Team Hunter Biden.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2719480][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10998887/Conscripts-given-call-papers-beaches-Ukraine.html[/URL]
Zelensky is running out of lemmings. Sign up. Stop a Russian bullet. Take up for Team Hunter Biden.[/QUOTE]Pedrillo, you were not missed here. Why do you continue to post garbage "opinion" articles from garbage sources? Go get your two "expensive" morning drinks trying to prove yourself that you have done well in life.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2719403]This easily is the stupidest remark from your post, ass kissing a psycho dictator while enjoying American freedoms.[/QUOTE]Tell me about my freedoms again while you dumb Dems tried to say Putin was responsible for Trump winning and made up Russiagate, an attempt to throw out a Democratically elected leader. Then you all made up "Russian disinformation" and Hunter Biden's laptop. You talk all about freedom. Free to lie? Was the press free to tell the truth about Hunter Biden's laptop or was that banned right before the election?
Was Russiagate real Paulie? Was Hunter Biden's laptop Russian disinformation?
Here is Matt Taibbi: With censorship soaring and real reporting all but taboo, the major dailies have just one important function left: being a political signaling system.
On Monday, the New York Times ran a story pegged to a new poll, showing Joe Biden dragging a sub-Trumpish 33% approval rating into the midterms.
The article followed another from the weekend, "At 79, Biden Is Testing the Boundaries of Age and the Presidency. " That piece, about Biden's age code for "cognitive decline" was full of doom as well.
Biden's descent was obvious six years ago. Following the candidate in places like Nevada, Iowa, and New Hampshire, I listened to traveling press joke about his general lack of awareness and discuss new precautions his aides seemed to be taking to prevent him engaging audience members at events.
But I'd covered a much sharper Biden in 2008 and felt that even if the drain of overcoming a stutter had some effect, the problems were cognitive, not speech-related. He struggled to remember where he was and veered constantly into inappropriateness, challenging people physically, telling crazy-ass stories, and angering instantly.
End of quote.
It is amazing that someone somewhere just gave the okay to talk about Biden's age, and the press piles on. All that stuff about Biden's poor ability to speak? It was all stuttering. Nah, just kidding. He is losing his fucking mind. We just had to wait to his poll numbers were down.
As for your dumb Dem contention that Republican senators voted to aid Ukraine, the sad truth is that members of Congress always voted for war. Senators Biden and Clinton voted for the war in Iraq but I still blamed GW Bush for that, and those two voting for the war did not mean Democrats were for it. The same goes here. Most Republicans I know are dead set against this war. Thing is you dumb Dems have made it so that anyone who is anti-war is pro-Putin.
And you do not want Democracy and freedom. You want one party Democratic rule and the Soviet style press which we have.
Back to Taibbi:
Along with companion outlets like the Washington Post and The Atlantic (as pure a reflection of establishment thought as exists in America), the paper in this sense fulfills the same function that Izvestia once served in the Soviet Union, telling us little or even less than nothing about breaking news events ("Can NATO Long Exist?" was among Pravda's final questions in 1991) but giving us comprehensive, if often coded, portraits of the thinking of the leadership class.
Some freedom we have.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2719454]Yeah, I live in a dream world! Again, Moscow and St. Petersburg aren't Russia. Real Russia is hurting, bleeding, losing job security, their savings and the roof over their heads. And it's going to become much worse before NEVER getting better.
I don't care what you or CNN are saying. Just 4 months into this shit, and Russia doesn't have the automotive industry anymore. That's just one industry. And the shit hasn't even hit the fan yet.
[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsweek.com/moscow-shoppers-feel-far-less-pain-americans-ukraine-war-1715389[/URL]
And yet, after surviving early doomsday predictions about the potentially crippling effects of Western economic sanctions, Russian consumers are comparatively content with their present economic condition. Rather than sparking a widespread anti-Kremlin uprising, the moderate decline in the standard of living has resulted in minimal visible disruptions on the streets of Moscow.
While the exchange value of the national currency does not offer a full picture of the Russian economy's health, the Russian Central Bank's success in staving off a financial collapse that seemed imminent to many only three months ago helps explain why the economic mood in Moscow remains relatively upbeat.
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-consumer-prices-unchanged-three-163533737.html[/URL]
Russia's consumer price index was flat in the week to June 24, having declined for three weeks in a row after a massive spike in March, providing the central bank with room to cut rates to limit the economic downturn, data showed on Wednesday.
Yeah, we are really giving it to Russia good.
I said it before and I will say it again. When the Dems hear of a crisis, the first thing they do is slit our wrists economically to say that they care.
Of course after the climate change induced fiascos in Ghana, the Netherlands, and Sri Lanka, it may be time to give the Dems credit for fucking things up beyond even our borders.
Hi to my fellow mongers in these dark times.
Haven't been reading the forum for some time, but checked it out today and it seems that some people here has lost there brain. How you can support Russia's attack on Ukraine is beyond me (yes I know you don't say it right out but you don't hide it either). I have had a friend from Kiev at my place for 2 months until she went home again. And life there is also hard at the moment with high price on groceries and not much work. Of course the bombed places in Ukraine is the worst. Whole cities destroyed.
Am I shocked that Putin went to war? No. Surprised? Yes. In the 90's I travelled a lot in Poland and that country with the rest of Eastern Europa was shit scared of Putin. Because it never was a secret that Putin wants the old USSR back with all it's glory (well he think it was glory). But that he would actually attack a country was a bit of surprise.
Are some mongers here so in need for pussy that they think that Ukraine should just be a good puppy and lie down and die? It seems that some here think so. Or do you just hate Ukraine since it hasn't been good to you? I then recommend you to move to Russia and stay there. The sanctions is starting to take affect and it will only be worse for Russia as times moves on. When the rest of the world is against you it could be smart to stop and think. Hey, was starting a war with Ukraine a smart thing to do? Putin don't care. I just hope most Russians will come to their sences soon. No matter what happens in the future, Russia will have to pay a price for what they have done.
Stay safe!
The DPR have prepared the yard in which the three mercenary criminals (two British and one Moroccan) will be executed by firing squad. I think that is wrong as a firing squad should be for soldiers, not British, American and Moroccan criminals.
China should really engage more, send military advisors etc.
Europe, meanwhile, with Germany in the van, has committed economic suicide. Musta been a lot of Krauts on Orgy Island /.
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2719658]The DPR have prepared the yard in which the three mercenary criminals .[/QUOTE]High time for a petition, to introduce death penalty for guilty parties in The Hague.