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I disagree. Wanchai is a great place to have a drink. listen to some good music, chill out, flirt and if you like what's on offer, by all means buy. We all know what the base prices are. Its up to us what amounts we want to spend. Some people, hungrier than most, will pay some ridiculous prices that we see. Wanchai for me is like the website alibaba. Wanchai is a place for buyers and sellers to congregate, and if the price is right, the deal is done. The buyer decides what he wants to pay.

Looking at the sale in Wanchai - boy spots girl, they chat, they dance, they flirt, they drink, they dance some more, they whisper in each other's ear and off they go hand in hand about an hour or so later, off to the short time hotel. $500 is my short time price. Add in 2 ladies drinks plus the motel charkes + 2 heinekens (happy hour prices)works out to 500+160+145+52 or $857.

The sale in Mongkok - let's take Dundas for example. Walk in, go to a room, get shown a line up. Pick and pay. Its $390 for 45 minutes, so if you want 1.5 hours, you pay $780. $100 for the room makes it a grand total of $880. You get to the room, strip, take a shower, and onto business. Finish, take a shower, and you're out. I'm calculating double time here to match up with the time you will get with a honey in Wanchai.

You can see there's not much difference in overall price here. Therefore the "tourist price for sex" all depends on the tourist himself.

However, like most places in the world, one needs to be aware and be careful with their surroundings. I frequently see people leaving their drinks on a bar or on a table and go off to dance with a girl. What a great opportunity to slip something in? I have a steadfast rule. If I have to leave my drink unattended, I make sure I finish most of it and when I return back, I will not touch the old drink. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

No locals in Wanchai? I beg to differ. I've been going to Laguna for the past 8 plus years. I see the same faces, some of whom go there daily. Yes they're westerners, but they live here. You will also see about a dozen or so local Chinese there. You will see local Chinese in Makati with their arms around some of their tasty Filipinas. Dreams has a number of local chinese people. Neptunes, as one poster mentioned has a few. Another thing that could be stopping more chinese from coming into the bars is the entry charges some places charge.

I go to various places. 141's, Dundas, Wanchai which is on my way home. I like China girls and tend to visit Dundas street once in a while. I went there last night. Paid for time and a half since I wanted to relax a bit, and was up in the room getting a massage when the cops raided. Lots of loud banging, lots of swear words, lights on and off. Had to try to put on my clothes in the deep dark. Had to open the door to the police while semi clothed. They took my hong kong identity details, my address, my handphone number, and I was stuck there for about 90 minutes. Had to ask permission to stand up, and permission to use the toilet which was four feet away. I know my rights so I had no real worries, but its not an experience I want to repeat.

Its not an experience I would want for a tourist coming to Hong Kong to experience either. On a positive side, it took my hard on away real fast.

I then headed to Wanchai. Stopped in to Makati to have a beer where I was accosted by a girl whom I previously had all night long for $1,000. Not being in a chatty mood, I headed to Laguna. Saw my 2 chinese friends, bought them beers, drank up and left.

Have fun, stay safe and watch your drinks!

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]For the newbies reading the reports below regarding the problems and confusion in the Wan Chai bar area and Fenwick types bars, are you starting to get the feeling Wan Chai is too much trouble to deal with? Add to this the tourist price for sex, which is way, way, way overpriced and you may conclude as I did many years ago, Wan Chai bar/sex outlets are a big waste of time.

Let's be clear about one fact, the Wan Chai bar scene is for sex tourist. Thus, the higher prices and rip-offs. Plus, many women see the men in these bars as targets. Why take a trip half way around the world to have trouble in a girlie bar....it is not worth it.

Also, another fact is the locals do NOT hang-out in the Wan Chai bars and there is a good reason for this. Which is, the local Chinese guys have known for years the Wn Chai bar area for girls is a rip-off. It always has been, and it always will be.

Ok, I am sure some guys will disagree with what I have written and that is fine. They love the bars there and are happy to pay HK$1,000 or more for ST. I mainly provide this information for the newbies who are trying to make an informed decision about where to spend their time.[/QUOTE]

This is what you posted on this site on 3/31/07

"I go to Hong Kong 2-3 times a year. Buying sex is ridiculously easy. I prefer to meet girls for short-term relationships so that every time I'm in town, I have some decent companionship.

What's the best way to find girls interested in real relationships and not selling sex? Are Wanchai bars good hunting grounds? or Lan Kwai Fong? And what are the protocols? "


So now you are the expert in HK mongering compared to myself (over 10yrs) and other long timers??

Sounds like you struck out massively in the 'not for sale' market which is a no brainer for long time expats who actually usually try to avoid that market due to the 'hassle factor' afterwards.

Wow, amazing to learn something new after reading this site for about a year. Anyone care to share the details of the "white women" clubs in Central? If not publicly, then via PM?

Couple points on the raging debate:

1) Personally don't like the Wan Chai scene much, but for me, it's more about preference on providers rather than the price. Generally not extremely fond of darkies, and it's not just about the skin tone. I personally find the physical features of Flippers, Indos, etc to be somewhat coarse. Of course, there are plenty of Chinese providers with equally unattractive features regardless of skin tone. In the end, I don't find the prices outrageous as has been mentioned, you can pay just as much (or more) in a KTV or sauna. The whole debate about whether it's "stupid" to partake in the Wan Chai offerings comes down to personal preference, and I find it sort of ridiculous to equate someone's personal preference to "stupidity"

2) 3k for KTV and not get anything? What KTV are you going to? The one HK KTV in East TST I've been to charged 500 per hour, so 3K equals 6 hours. That's an awful long time to do nothing. For 3k, you can spend 3hours flirting in the KTV (1. 5k) and then take the girl for a ST (1. 5k). The other KTV I've been to here (near Sun Hot Sauna on Hanoi Rd I think) was quite a bit cheaper, 500 for the whole evening (about 3 hours). Though the take out fee was 1. 5k, same as East TST. The most expensive KTV I've experienced was in Taiwan, which ran NT10k (HKD2. 5K) for 3 hours including booze, with no s*x included (extra NT8k, or HKD2k and you keep the girl until 4am). While expensive, the quality IMO beats anything that I've seen here in HK and is on par with the sauna girls at 18 over in Macau. Service levels (assuming that you speak Chinese) also exceed anything I've experienced anywhere.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]This is what you posted on this site on 3/31/07

"I go to Hong Kong 2-3 times a year. Buying sex is ridiculously easy. I prefer to meet girls for short-term relationships so that every time I'm in town, I have some decent companionship.

What's the best way to find girls interested in real relationships and not selling sex? Are Wanchai bars good hunting grounds? or Lan Kwai Fong? And what are the protocols? "
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Why dig up that quote? This discussion is on buying sex, not on finding a short-term relationship. I had said that, if only mongering is on your mind, going to Wanchai is a waste of money. Now, if we want to talk about finding a short-term relationship or if you enjoy flirting/socializing, Wanchai may be worth a look, especially if you're into Filipinas or cannot speak Cantonese.

The fact remains. If we only talk about pure sex, Wanchai is a time-consuming rip-off for Westerners lacking the balls to explore the less occidental parts of the city. Great...an American flies 20 hours to talk to girls at a bar or disco. How exotic. We all know bars and discos are rare in America. Kinda like travelling to Hong Kong to eat at McDonalds.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]So now you are the expert in HK mongering compared to myself (over 10yrs) and other long timers??
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Getting ripped off for over 10 years is hardly something to be proud of.

Yes, I consider myself to be an expert at HK mongering. You may have more experience on Lockhart Road and I may have more experience on Portland Street. People can be experts over different domains.

As I said earlier, I love it when you mislead newbies! Let's funnel all the tourists and ignoramuses there so they don't inflate prices at places where real bargain and quality hunters go. Per rules of this forum, I will not advertise a competing forum. But on this forum dedicated solely to Hong Kong mongering, where people truly know the ins and outs, there is hardly a mentioning of Wanchai.

[QUOTE=Hk Dog]This is what you posted on this site on 3/31/07

"I go to Hong Kong 2-3 times a year. Buying sex is ridiculously easy. I prefer to meet girls for short-term relationships so that every time I'm in town, I have some decent companionship.

What's the best way to find girls interested in real relationships and not selling sex? Are Wanchai bars good hunting grounds? or Lan Kwai Fong? And what are the protocols? "

So now you are the expert in HK mongering compared to myself (over 10yrs) and other long timers??

Sounds like you struck out massively in the 'not for sale' market which is a no brainer for long time expats who actually usually try to avoid that market due to the 'hassle factor' afterwards.[/QUOTE]HK dog,

Wanchai is for tourist you don't see Hong konger go mongering there , most of them go to Macau,shenzhen or Dongguan on the weekend to play is just so much cheaper and quality of service is so much better ,if you want flipper go to manila .

Fast eddie 48

I was this time only for a one night stay in HK. Since I had to leave early in the morning and I stayed in Mongkok I decided to visit 37 Dundas.

After arriving around 7pm at dundas same procedure like always. They showed me 8 girls, I opted this time for a taller girl with short hair. Her name was Lu Ling. She said she's 22yo and from mainland china near Haian. Her English was okay thus we could talk a little bit.

We started after showering cleaning every part of our bodies with a short body massage. I brought some oil with me and asked Lu Ling to use it. First she didn't want, but after a short talk she did a short oil massage. During the massage she weared a t-shirt. While she started a BBBJ I couldn't resist and removed the t-shirt, stopped the BBBJ and started to massage her with a lot of oil. It was really amazing, because also Lu Ling enjoyed it very much. After 45 min she asked me for a break, went outside, came back after 1 min and told me that she arranged 2 additional hours for a special price. We went on with the massage and some DATY. I loved it, she was shaved and told me not to stop. Next step was BBBJ, but I wasn't able to hold a long time. So we made a break, then she started for another BBBJ. Usually I don't like that, but this time it was more than ok for me. Then great sex in different positions, she didn't moan, only biting her lips. Finally some hugs, a short rest.

At the end we had to shower and some problems because we missed soap. Next time I will bring oil and soap with me.

Overall damage: 600 HKD + 200 HKD tip.

Whomer

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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]HK dog,

Wanchai is for tourist you don't see Hong konger go mongering there , most of them go to Macau,shenzhen or Dongguan on the weekend to play is just so much cheaper and quality of service is so much better ,if you want flipper go to manila .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]


I am sorry. Complete and utter bullshit. I would say 80% of single expat males spend at least one night a weekend there and 30% of married expat males.

Local Chinese mongerers don't go there because they don't like dark skinned girls for issues I highlighted many times.

Why the fuck would I fly to Manila? I want to do other things in my life and don't need to save up to the last Peso to get laid. I want to play golf etc etc and also fuck and also hang out with friends. Its called having a life. So I don't need to do 'cost per fuck' calculations. I can do all that here in HK.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend]As I said earlier, I love it when you mislead newbies! Let's funnel all the tourists and ignoramuses there so they don't inflate prices at places where real bargain and quality hunters go. Per rules of this forum, I will not advertise a competing forum. But on this forum dedicated solely to Hong Kong mongering, where people truly know the ins and outs, there is hardly a mentioning of Wanchai.[/QUOTE]


Ohhhh, you read s e x 1 4 1 forum. Wow I didn't know that!! That changes everything. You are a mongering god.

The point is only 6 months ago you were asking where the places are to go in HK. You even asked if Wan Chai is 'good mongering ground'. Now after your one trip you are Zeus on the mountaintop proclaiming your word as the word of god.

I put that quote of yours up there so that a real Newbie would completely discount what you have to say and listen to more experienced people.

There is also a reason why people prefer 141 and maybe you are in the class. Getting laid with a hottie, even if you are paying for it, is NOT a sure thing in Wan Chai. 141 they'll fuck you no matter how unattractive and unsociable you are. So maybe in one of your 2-3 visits in HK you couldn't get laid in Wan Chai and found soulace in the no rejection 141's.

I have alot to learn from you on more websites. Please tell me more.

Rick Hunter’s recent report where he mentions the nightclubs in East Tsim Tsa Tsui being some of the more expensive places in Hong Kong has caught my attention.

I searched through all the old posts and found Rick Hunter’s post (number 2831 on the 01/05/06). Firstly I would like to say what an excellent report. Here Rick mentions the night clubs “New Paris” and “China Club” where the 9/10 and 10/10 girls can be found.

I am very interested in visiting these kinds of clubs in my upcoming trip to Hong Kong on the odd night when I need a break from the Wanchai bar scene and also I would like to know about these places as an option for taking business clients.

I would like to know if there are any other new clubs or hot places in not only in East Tsim Tsa Tsui but all of HK offering these kinds of services with the all important “9” or “10” girls where you may need to pay a bit extra for the quality.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Wow, amazing to learn something new after reading this site for about a year. Anyone care to share the details of the "white women" clubs in Central? If not publicly, then via PM?

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The club has been around for over 8 yrs. Without disclosing the name its near the top of Ice House Street. Its a 'members' only club (the only way they can get a licence) so you can't just walk in.

Trust me, don't bother. I know girls that work there and they laugh at the locals that show up there. Basically they get lap dance type entertainment and shell out loads of cash for nothing.

I like Wan Chai. Its great speaking english to the girls and flirting with them. And I don't mind what color their skin is or where they come from. I also like other places in HK but its hard to bond with the girls (141 for example) when they are fresh off the boat and can't even tell me their name? And I only speak like 100 words of Chinese. LOL.

Anyways

I was in Fenwicks about 3 weeks ago and around 12:30AM the DJ stopped and the lights turned on. I was like huh? Closing? WTF?

Then all these cops came in with dogs. And they pretty much lined up all the girls and started checking out their paperwork. And all of the girls pretty much remained calm. I only saw like 2 or 3 making a dash for the back door.

They even had the dogs going behind the bar around the bartenders sniffing the bottles and shit.

This hot thai girl I was with excused herself to the bathroom along with her G/F. I was thinking 1 of 2 things she had to hide. Drugs or to get/give some papers to some other girl.

I stood there talking to some other mongers and all in all it took 45 mins for them to leave. The lights went back off, DJ cranked up again and everyone cheered loudly. Finally got my girl to leave with me for 1500 LT. I didn't buy her any drinks. She actually bought me a Heineken which I thought to be really, really, really odd. Really odd. LOL.

When we were back in my room I asked her what drugs she was hiding. She asked me to guess. I said Special K. And she said I was right. LOL. Ketamine for those that don't know.

I didn't want any but told her she could do some in the room if she wanted and she did. She was way jacked up for about 25 minutes all dancing around to my music (naked). Her body was way tight. Ripped stomach. Very cute face. She was my first thai. She had a scar on her left shoulder that looked like some burn mark. I asked what that was from and she said all Thai people have it. I know this is stupid question but can someone explain to me.

Anyways she left around 1 pm the next day as I was checking out and heading to SZ. I was nice and actually just gave her 200USD as I was low on HKD. I guess that is near 1500 that we agreed upon.

I have one lame picture I took of her but will post it later anyways. But its not great.

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[QUOTE=Hk Dog]The club has been around for over 8 yrs. Without disclosing the name its near the top of Ice House Street. Its a 'members' only club (the only way they can get a licence) so you can't just walk in.

Trust me, don't bother. I know girls that work there and they laugh at the locals that show up there. Basically they get lap dance type entertainment and shell out loads of cash for nothing.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more, you get far better value in HK in Wanchai at Fenwicks, Neptunes or even the walk ups.

There are Colombian and Venezuelan girls in Fenwicks with blonde hair and large implanted boob jobs. They look European generally, although I can't profess to say they speak great English. You will find all you need there for 1500 if thats your bag.

[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Wow, amazing to learn something new after reading this site for about a year. Anyone care to share the details of the "white women" clubs in Central? If not publicly, then via PM?

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A member's only club. I hear lapdances cost about $300 to $400. Been around for years. Have heard that if you're dressed well and if its a slow night for them, they may let you in.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=King Leonidis]I would like to know if there are any other new clubs or hot places in not only in East Tsim Tsa Tsui but all of HK offering these kinds of services with the all important “9” or “10” girls where you may need to pay a bit extra for the quality.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]


I think Rick will agree and if you are really after top talent then book one of the nightclub packages to Macau. The talent in Macau is far better than BBOSS or China City in HK and 1/2 the price. Just go to Macau Ferry Terminal and you will see the shops offering the package. Its only 1hr ferry.

[QUOTE=Jayson420]I like Wan Chai. Its great speaking english to the girls and flirting with them. And I don't mind what color their skin is or where they come from. I also like other places in HK but its hard to bond with the girls (141 for example) when they are fresh off the boat and can't even tell me their name? And I only speak like 100 words of Chinese. LOL.

Anyways

I was in Fenwicks about 3 weeks ago and around 12:30AM the DJ stopped and the lights turned on. I was like huh? Closing? WTF?

Then all these cops came in with dogs. And they pretty much lined up all the girls and started checking out their paperwork. And all of the girls pretty much remained calm. I only saw like 2 or 3 making a dash for the back door.

They even had the dogs going behind the bar around the bartenders sniffing the bottles and shit.

This hot thai girl I was with excused herself to the bathroom along with her G/F. I was thinking 1 of 2 things she had to hide. Drugs or to get/give some papers to some other girl.

I stood there talking to some other mongers and all in all it took 45 mins for them to leave. The lights went back off, DJ cranked up again and everyone cheered loudly. Finally got my girl to leave with me for 1500 LT. I didn't buy her any drinks. She actually bought me a Heineken which I thought to be really, really, really odd. Really odd. LOL.

When we were back in my room I asked her what drugs she was hiding. She asked me to guess. I said Special K. And she said I was right. LOL. Ketamine for those that don't know.

I didn't want any but told her she could do some in the room if she wanted and she did. She was way jacked up for about 25 minutes all dancing around to my music (naked). Her body was way tight. Ripped stomach. Very cute face. She was my first thai. She had a scar on her left shoulder that looked like some burn mark. I asked what that was from and she said all Thai people have it. I know this is stupid question but can someone explain to me.

Anyways she left around 1 pm the next day as I was checking out and heading to SZ. I was nice and actually just gave her 200USD as I was low on HKD. I guess that is near 1500 that we agreed upon.

I have one lame picture I took of her but will post it later anyways. But its not great.

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Great report Jay. I have had some good Thai and Filipina encounters at Fenwicks. Neptunes is also OK, depending on your luck I suppose. Lower prices I find. I also like Joe Bananas where some FLs hang out. Higher quality and hence higher priced than either of the places mentioned above.