Bogota Reports

Anyone have recommendations for decent massage spots here. I'm near Santa Fe. I know some 'massage' spots are terrible, so I'd prefer a place that does genuine massages at a decent budget, but also provides extra if that's where I feel like going.

Thanks!

Thanks to many other posts about SA in the past, I was able to get a good idea of a good approach to start. There have been a couple really good posts about the actual SA experiences so I am going to more focus on the mechanics of using it and the dates for now. I will probably make another post after about the dates later. I want to share with you guys what seemed to work well on my first try. For reference. I am a late 30's guy that is more or less HWP. I would not consider myself the most attractive man in the world. I speak zero Spanish and like a GFE experience. I am looking for a combination of one night stands and to find a few regular girls that I can see when I am in Bogota many times per year. Given my situation, I am willing to invest some additional time for the diamonds in the rough.

I signed up for SA 2 weeks ahead of time and started browsing and favoriting girls. No messages from them. My profile was in English and real basic about having work in Bogota. Culture, food, and fun. I did not start messaging until I was in Bogota. This is the script I followed. I ignored most of the Instagram models and girls that had tags for only luxury life and travel on their profile.

English. Hey, I'm Jack Taggart. I'd love to chat if you are interested.

Spanish. Hola, soy Jack Taggarto. Me encantaría chatear si estás interesado.

Her. Usually Hi, How are you. Or Yes, I would like to chat.

English. Doing great. Do you have whatsapp?

Spanish - ¿Tienes whatsapp?

Most of the time she will answer with her number right away. Some will not respond and some will respond that they want to chat on SA. I did continue those chats.

WhatsApp. If her response is generic.

Me. Hello - its Jack Taggart from SA.

Her. Hi.

Me. Planetrees maybe, but pretty quickly right to the point. I am looking to meet up and have a few drinks. If all goes well have sex.

Her. She generally agrees.

Me. Would 200 mil for a 2 hour meet be good?

Her. Yes or she asks for a slightly higher amount, or she laughs at you and asks for 300 USD+.

From there I had opportunity to meet up either that day or the next day. I had 4 hits like this on my first day in Bogota and I obviously could not accomodate that.

If you are only in Bogota for a short time. This should be your strategy. I met up with an amazing girl within a couple of days with maybe 15 minutes of effort. All in with casting my net wide it was maybe 2 hours of effort for my first meet up and to line up many others. So I think that is very much worth it.

Whatsapp. If she responds and is chatty and asks substantive questions. Also only if she speaks English since I do not speak Spanish.

I had good luck in engaging when the girl actually wants to talk. I will fully admit that I am an optimist and am looking for additional drinks / hanging out. Since I will also be in Bogota so often, I am also OK with a pretty female friend that likes to have fun. Maybe we just have a good time.

Maybe it leads to more. Maybe she has friends. I like the ideas but I did not have enough time in to see how things pan out on this trip with the many leads. Since I plan on having a lot of spare time though on my next couple of trips, this aspect is worth working for me. A couple girls stopped.

Responding when it was clear we could not meet right away. A couple others were cool with talking when I came back.

I had the opportunity to line up dates with multiple of these girls and while time only permitted to meet up with one in this category, I had so much fun I met up with her two more times.

In terms of the actual meeting, I am going to repeat some advice but I figure it makes sense for someone that might not be reading back through hundrends of pages.

1) Check in a couple of hours before your agreed upon meeting time. She will forgot or lose track of time.

2) Check in about an hour before your agreed upon meeting time to make sure she will be on time. It will likley take an hour for her to travel to you. You will likley find out she needs transportation. I am starting to find out its better to just offer to send an uber to start. This also allows you to see the progress via the app.

3) I was hoping for bb, but did not ask after a lost date with an instagram model type that was good for 200,000 cop for 2 hours and we had a great rapport. Hours before our agreed upon meet, she asked "So do you use condoms". And I gave the too honest answer of "yes, but I would prefer not to and I am clean with recent results that I can show you" I was ghosted. I am sort of a dumbass sometimes. I probably should not have pulled that with a fluent english speaker and model type at that price.

If you are having issues with Coinbase or prefer a cash-only transaction, I can recommend the bitcoin ATM at Calle 64 #8-05. It's "Cajero Bitcoin" in google maps.

Before you go, create a bitcoin wallet for yourself. For example, download the edge app. Go to your bitcoin wallet and press Request so you can save a screenshot of your wallet address (2 D barcode and the text version so you can double check it).

Take your cash and wallet address to the bitcoin ATM. Let the machine scan in your wallet address barcode, input your cash, double check that your wallet address is correct, and press send / purchase to buy your coins. The employees are very helpful if you have a question or want them to verify that you're doing it correctly. You'll get your coins instantly and then you follow the directions on ISG to send your membership fee and activate it.

So, this is the map of all the "casas", night-clubs, massage parlors, etc that I know and personally visited in my 3 month stay in Bogota:

[URL]http://www.colombiasexmap.com[/URL]

I included the date of the last visit as well as the prices. It also has precise addresses and coordinates to open in google maps.

I was thinking maybe a list / table view would also be useful? Especially for mobile.

Anyway let me know what you guys think.

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2683589]If you are having issues with Coinbase or prefer a cash-only transaction, I can recommend the bitcoin ATM at Calle 64 #8-05. It's "Cajero Bitcoin" in google maps.

Before you go, create a bitcoin wallet for yourself. For example, download the edge app. Go to your bitcoin wallet and press Request so you can save a screenshot of your wallet address (2 D barcode and the text version so you can double check it).

Take your cash and wallet address to the bitcoin ATM. Let the machine scan in your wallet address barcode, input your cash, double check that your wallet address is correct, and press send / purchase to buy your coins. The employees are very helpful if you have a question or want them to verify that you're doing it correctly. You'll get your coins instantly and then you follow the directions on ISG to send your membership fee and activate it.[/QUOTE]I just wanted to add on that [URL]https://rockitcoin.com/[/URL] has a ton of ATM locations just like described above in the USA. I was able to sign up for an account and use cash to fund my wallet and easily pay for the subscription.

[QUOTE=KindAn;2683350]Anyone have recommendations for decent massage spots here. I'm near Santa Fe. I know some 'massage' spots are terrible, so I'd prefer a place that does genuine massages at a decent budget, but also provides extra if that's where I feel like going.

Thanks![/QUOTE]There are quite a few there. Sensity Spa, Loutron, Tantra Spa. I would check the earlier posts with map and lists.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2683428]1) Check in a couple of hours before your agreed upon meeting time. She will forgot or lose track of time.

2) Check in about an hour before your agreed upon meeting time to make sure she will be on time. It will likley take an hour for her to travel to you. You will likley find out she needs transportation. I am starting to find out its better to just offer to send an uber to start. This also allows you to see the progress via the app.[/QUOTE]That is good advice.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2683428]3) I was hoping for bb, but did not ask after a lost date with an instagram model type that was good for 200,000 cop for 2 hours and we had a great rapport. Hours before our agreed upon meet, she asked "So do you use condoms". And I gave the too honest answer of "yes, but I would prefer not to and I am clean with recent results that I can show you" I was ghosted. I am sort of a dumbass sometimes. I probably should not have pulled that with a fluent english speaker and model type at that price.[/QUOTE]Nah, you do not ask for BB. You go for it and make them request the condom. If your mindset is that you expect BB as I do, you will get it most of the time.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2683428]Me. Would 200 mil for a 2 hour meet be good?

Her. Yes or she asks for a slightly higher amount, or she laughs at you and asks for 300 USD+.[/QUOTE]Same thing here. Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment. It is just what you are used to. If they bring up money and you want them, then talk cash but try not to. My best meets were when money was not discussed.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2684198]Same thing here. Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment. It is just what you are used to. If they bring up money and you want them, then talk cash but try not to. My best meets were when money was not discussed.[/QUOTE]But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.

[QUOTE=Aureliano16;2684434]But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.[/QUOTE]When I read his M. O. It seemed to me he was making a lot of mistakes. All of that should be left for a face to face meeting. There is a tried and true saying in sales.

"you can't give them a haircut over the phone".

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2684198]Why are you initiating payment talk? To me, you should be trying to meet them without talk of payment.[/QUOTE]Because he is looking to fuck. You are looking to go with the flow and let whatever happens happen; which may end with you leaving with a dry dick. He does not want to chance it and is looking for a sure thing.

[QUOTE=Aureliano16;2684434]But what do you do if in the meeting the girl asks for USD 300+ ?

You just leave? What a waste of time for both, I think the price, or at least some kind of range, is very important before meeting.[/QUOTE]I have had them ask for $300 one time and $800 another. If they do that, you say no thank you and go get laid at Santa Fe for $20 if you are horny.

A lot of the women I met in 2019 and 2020 had never been on the site and did not know what to expect and like I said, the best dates were when money was not discussed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2684566]Because he is looking to fuck. You are looking to go with the flow and let whatever happens happen; which may end with you leaving with a dry dick. He does not want to chance it and is looking for a sure thing.[/QUOTE]It is Bogota. How do you not get laid there?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2684566]Because he is looking to fuck. You are looking to go with the flow and let whatever happens happen; which may end with you leaving with a dry dick. He does not want to chance it and is looking for a sure thing.[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter what they ask for, only what you will pay. When negotiating face to face, you have the upper hand. They have already traveled to my apartment or to a close by bar or coffee shop so I didn't have to travel bus why transmillenio for 2 hours mas o menos, so THEY are more willing to accept a half a loaf than none, #2 you are looking at her, smell her perfume get a feel for the chemistry etc How can you decide what I will pay before seeing the product. So its ALWAYS better to negotiate face to face. I remember one time I met face to face with a very pretty, big tit girl who just graduated and got an entry level job as a lawyer. She asked for 350,000 cop, we settled on 200,000 One of the best girl friend sex I had for quite some time. I'm sure over the phone that would not have happened.

Also, you always have to be willing to walk! Back in the day I used prepagos, and it doesn't matter if it's Colombia Peru Brasil or CR I almost have never had a girl hit me with a price and didn't accept less, in fact they ALWAYS accept less. But on the phone or in text as they sit having a Caldo at her kitchen table it is very easy for her to hold firm, after all they have not invested any effort or time into the equation. You can choose to utilize the advice or not, ti's your dime. Be safe!

Are the clubs closed early on Friday, all day Saturday and Sunday?

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2683344]Here are some reviews of the clubs I visited in no particular order. Troyas. I like this club. Strip shows are happening all the time. Got a couple of lap dances. Most of the girls will leave you alone unless you somehow make some kind of contact with them. Maybe a smile or staring at them too long. Prices. I don't drink so mostly coke or water which came out to $10,000 cop. I bought a lady drink and it was $13,000 cop. Totally worth it since the it took the girl about half an hour to finish it and many lap dances during this time although not nude. I was told for the fully nude lap dance you need to buy a bottle. Since I don't drink no bottle service for me and didn't ask the price for the bottle. I did take one girl up, maybe I should say lady since she said she was 30 years old. Forgot her name but the vets will probably know who she is since she says she works everyday but leaves early around 7-8:00 at night. She has blond hair and is a little thick but was alot of fun upstairs. The cost to take her up was $60,000 cop. She did not rush and didn't ask for payment, so I payed at the end. No shower but she had wipes to clean up with. The cleanup girl did ask for a tip so I gave her $2,000 cop. Here is a question for anyone. My friend took a vennie from here. She told him $100,000 cop. When they got up, they went to the bar first and he told me she gave the bartender $20,000. Then they went upstairs where she asked for the money up front. The question here, is why did she pay the bartender $20,000?

Fiebre. Another stripclub with good talent. My coke was $10,000 and the lady drinks were the same price of what we pay. To take a girl up was between $150,000 to $200,000 cop. Yes it's more expensive than Troyas. I took a girl named Scarlett upstairs. She asked for $150,00 and was well worth it. She was one of the stripper and a body to die for..[/QUOTE]I am typing this up directly from my first night out in Bogota 4/13/22. I went to 4 different clubs including Troyas, Paisas and 2 other random spots recommended by the Uber. Every single spot charged 50,000 for Beer and 30,000 for soda, juice or water. 1 Dance was 50,000 and taking a girl upstairs was 500,000 k. When was the last time you were in Santa Fe? It seems the gangster have all gotten together and fixed the prices because it was insane paying $50 for 2 beers and a water with my 2 friends and the prices were exactly the same all 4 places we went.