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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2187003]I have been online since there was an online to be on and I never seem to find chicks like this. And coming from me it would not even be a scam. Some guys have all the luck.[/QUOTE]I have been told by a couple of girls that they have been asked to pay a foreign guys expenses. Usually some guy will come over on a cheap ticker and expect the girl to house and feed him while giving unlimited sex.

They will promise that it is only for a short time and that they will repay many times over once their money comes through from some sale of a business, house or divorce is finalized or their inheritance gets paid out. Since these sort of sob stories are common with Filipinos, some pinas fall for them and come home one day from their 12 hour shift at KFC to find the guy and anything valuable in the house has disappeared.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2187003] ..... And coming from me it would not even be a scam. Some guys have all the luck.[/QUOTE]A year before while I was visiting Cebu a girl of 40 ish invited me to visit her city in Negros Occi. Even she was willing to pay my travel expanses. I counted funny but she was damn serious.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2180399]I was actually in discussions with some guys back home where we would pay for the place, set it up with hot tub, sauna etc and have two girls live there. They would be paid a "salary. ".

Each "investor" would have exclusive nights. It would have worked out much less than traditional methods but we could never get enough guys interested in to make a go of it. There were two ladies who did fully interactive 3 ways interested in the arrangement. They wanted a veto right on any investor.

The main drawback to getting others to come on board was that they said that they would quickly tire of the same two several times a month. A few were OK with once a month but the original ones in the discussion wanted to have several nights a month. The girls wanted to keep it to less than 6 guys so we were looking at 5 times each a month. (We were looking at about $3 k CDN each a month. That would be $5 k for the place and $5 k each lady, with a small reserve in case we had people drop out.).

We were going to set it up that you could come as early as 6 PM and sleep over leaving by 6 AM. In hind sight it was a good thing we never went ahead with it. Just after the discussions fell apart my employer closed doors and I had to leave for overseas work ending up here a year later.

However for the guys who come and go, renting a place on a 12 month term, setting it up as the group wants, with scheduled times to use just might work out. You could offset some costs with Airbnb when not otherwise in use by the investors.[/QUOTE]Ehmmm. Sounds like a semi private brothel to my eyes.

1. 5 CND for two ladies: hell of a salary for the country.

As a side comment, you need to be 200% of the liability of the girls unless you make provisions it somebody else being the warden of the flat.

FWIW, I am not sure about BM's POV but KG, I think you are overpaying. Seoul is expensive but not that so. Also, that is a lot for the girls and the terms are quite long. Remember, their attention span is really not that long. Also, I assume they can play on the side. I would keep it simple and just do it for yourself or one other.

This type of arrangement was not uncommon in the PI and elsewhere for certain people. I recently told a Filipina to take up a sponsored offer because she was just not good at any financial management and kept digging a deeper hole. The guy was will willing to pay quite a lot as it would be much cheaper for him. Anywat just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2180399]That would be $5 k for the place and $5 k each lady, with a small reserve in case we had people drop out.).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BionicMan;2187051]Ehmmm. Sounds like a semi private brothel to my eyes.

1. 5 CND for two ladies: hell of a salary for the country.

As a side comment, you need to be 200% of the liability of the girls unless you make provisions it somebody else being the warden of the flat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bushes;2186958]Have not read the whole thread but I cannot agree more and am stupefied by what I hear and see. These girls are from all walks of life and treat most guys like shXt but are conned out of big bucks by what I can only assume are silver tongued casa novas. Known several women conned by Indian / Pakistani / African guys over the Internet.
[/QUOTE]Lest we forget, there is a women's sex tourism "industry." Smaller probably than ours, but it does exist. Mostly older, professional women who are striking out with men in their own countries and go looking for romance with virile young men in places such as the East Coast of Africa (for Russian and European women), the search for "Big Bamboo" in Jamaica and the Caribbean (for North American women), and in Thailand and elsewhere in Southeast Asia for Japanese and other East Asian women. Perhaps Australian women are getting into the action.

The movie **How Stella Got Her Groove back** is built on this model of May-December romance. Obviously economic disparities are a major ingredient in our hobby, so why not for women as well? Of course women don't like calling it sex tourism; they claim that, unlike male sex tourists, they are pursuing real romance.

A brief internet search for women's sex tourism will turn up stories of lonely European women sending large sums of money to support men they'd met, including some who are married, during their vacations in Africa, Jamaica, and elsewhere. In other cases they try to bring the men to marry or live with them in their home countries, but usually with dismal results--for a variety of reasons.

Mr. E, you probably do see these women in Thailand, but you look past them because you don't find them attractive.

[QUOTE=Bushes;2187072]FWIW, I am not sure about BM's POV but KG, I think you are overpaying. Seoul is expensive but not that so......[/QUOTE]Not Seoul but Canada. These ladies could easily make that in a week offering their services publicity, it had to work financially for them well.

Anyway the idea never got off the ground for a lot of reasons.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2187223]Lest we forget, there is a women's sex tourism "industry." Smaller probably than ours, but it does exist......[/QUOTE]Female sex tourism has been around for a long time. In 1981 my now ex and I went to Jamaica. There were two pairs of unaccompanied women at the same small hotel, one pair was there for sex tourism, we only saw them at meal times and they were always accompanied by at least two big local guys, each.

The other pair was there for a vacation, them and my ex quickly learned that they could not be at the pool or anywhere around the hotel without a male with them, if they were all the chairs around them quickly filled up with local guys who would just sit and stare at them. If I was with them the guys disappeared quickly.

A couple of the staff took to calling me Mr 3. Now that would have made some vacation memories LOL.

[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2187223]Perhaps Australian women are getting into the action.[/QUOTE]There is no perhaps. It is widely known that they go to Indonesia.
[QUOTE=Soapy Smith;2187223]Of course women don't like calling it sex tourism; they claim that, unlike male sex tourists, they are pursuing real romance. In other cases they try to bring the men to marry or live with them in their home countries, but usually with dismal results--for a variety of reasons.[/QUOTE]See this a lot in my favorite show 90 Day Fiance, where an American woman has gone to Jamaica or Dominican Republic and brought a guy back. Works out well in some cases, but it is always a shock to the women when they are expecting the money the man makes to add to their household, but he is sending so much money back home to his family instead. In one case on the show, a girl in my city and her Dominican fiance were living in a studio apartment while he had sent his mom (a lawyer) enough money that she was able to move into a 3 bedroom apartment. Meanwhile she had to shell out for her own engagement ring. That chick was livid!

I used to date a (rather small for a) Samoan chick in the US. She was a virgin when we met (but not for long) and treated me like a king. She had been to school for nursing but never had money to take the state test because she was always sending money back home. That made absolutely no sense to me (so I let her get away from me). My idea was help yourself before you go trying to help others. Know the culture before you go off getting into relationships with people.

Know a couple and seen many. Also, seen some in the PI. You would not know who has the money until you know the couple. The Filipina has most of the dough or the company the guy works in. The French are great at this. Another reason to dislike them! LOL

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2187274]There is no perhaps. It is widely known that they go to Indonesia..[/QUOTE]

Oh, I see. But if you do the leg work and setup, you don't need to pay them market. Then again, you don't want them to get caught free lancing.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2187244]Not Seoul but Canada. These ladies could easily make that in a week offering their services publicity, it had to work financially for them well.

Anyway the idea never got off the ground for a lot of reasons.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2187274]There is no perhaps. It is widely known that they go to Indonesia.
See this a lot in my favorite show 90 Day Fiance, where an American woman has gone to Jamaica or Dominican Republic and brought a guy back. Works out well in some cases, but it is always a shock to the women when they are expecting the money the man makes to add to their household, but he is sending so much money back home to his family instead. In one case on the show, a girl in my city and her Dominican fiance were living in a studio apartment while he had sent his mom (a lawyer) enough money that she was able to move into a 3 bedroom apartment. Meanwhile she had to shell out for her own engagement ring. That chick was livid!

I used to date a (rather small for a) Samoan chick in the US. She was a virgin when we met (but not for long) and treated me like a king. She had been to school for nursing but never had money to take the state test because she was always sending money back home. That made absolutely no sense to me (so I let her get away from me). My idea was help yourself before you go trying to help others. Know the culture before you go off getting into relationships with people.[/QUOTE]Many Filipinas send all of their money back home to the Philippines, along with any money they get from their "poriner" husband, while the husband struggles to keep up with the demands of supporting a wife with a ravenous appetite for consumer goods and a need to make as many children as possible.

When the husband is busy working two jobs to make ends meet, his Pinay wife will try out the more energetic cockerels in the neighborhood only a swipe away on her hookup apps. Mongers find themselves in such situations knowing that financial incompetence and marital infidelity are part of Flip culture, because their penis is boss and convinces them that they found the one exception. The only culture that matters is that the pussy is tight! LOL!

[QUOTE=Bushes;2187284]Oh, I see. But if you do the leg work and setup, you don't need to pay them market. Then again, you don't want them to get caught free lancing.[/QUOTE]It wasen't full market rate. They could make in a week what we would pay a month but we would include the house for them.

There were many trust issues all around. We had to trust that they would have been exclusive to us. We would have had to trust each other not to drop out leaving the bank short or us scrambling for a replacement of paying a larger share (abet getting a larger share in return.) The ladies would have to trust us to come up with the money each month because if they announced that they were retiring they would lose their client list as others moved into their market.

It was a nice fantasy, to have your own share in a small harem. Of course for what my share would have been I could actually have one here, except for the dangers of pina jealousy and reliability.

Bit dangerous in NA. Don't know the details but think easier for Filipinas to travel to Canada.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2187644]It wasen't full market rate. They could make in a week what we would pay a month but we would include the house for them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bushes;2188605]Bit dangerous in NA. Don't know the details but think easier for Filipinas to travel to Canada.[/QUOTE]There were Canadian girls.

Getting tourist visa for Philippine to Canada is difficult, any unaccompanied person from SE Asia will have difficulty getting tourist visa. They should have a history of going places here and returning home on time to even have a chance unless they own substantial property or have a good job.

Not hard to immigrate if young, educated, speak English or French, have some Canadian work experience (USA experience will help too.) and have a Canadian job offer.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2187247]Female sex tourism has been around for a long time. In 1981 my now ex and I went to Jamaica. There were two pairs of unaccompanied women at the same small hotel, one pair was there for sex tourism, we only saw them at meal times and they were always accompanied by at least two big local guys, each.

The other pair was there for a vacation, them and my ex quickly learned that they could not be at the pool or anywhere around the hotel without a male with them, if they were all the chairs around them quickly filled up with local guys who would just sit and stare at them. If I was with them the guys disappeared quickly.

A couple of the staff took to calling me Mr 3. Now that would have made some vacation memories LOL.[/QUOTE]There were two German young girls with Dominican guys where I stayed one time in DR. One German girl was very friendly with me and the DR guy got very jealous. However we managed to sneak around one time. She said her and her friend come once a year to DR. She gave me her number and e mail address. I did not contact her. If she is going to DR to look for guys she could be a sex tourist going to any number of places in the world.

Another time two Hong Kong girls I met at breakfast in Cebu hotel. They showed interest in me but they were fugly. Next morning I saw them with two Philippine guys at breakfast. Then I knew they were coming there to hook up with local guys. Another time I saw two Indian older ladies in Bangkok with local young guys at breakfast.

Do not know if these girls offer money for sex.

It maybe hard for girls to solicit young guys for sex. Sex market is generally geared towards men seeking women.