Its hard to change habits
[QUOTE=Kafka;2605340]I'm in Cartegena Now and things are much improved since June when everything was uptight there are many chicas everything is fun and open there are all kinds of posse's running around here which is entertaining to watch and the world is already out about the posse's being cheap and hard to deal. One girl told me flat out she won't have anything to do with them. But they're still attract the vendors like flies. I think this would be on a case-by-case basis but the squad concept is kind of unattractive to begin with..... However everybody is friendly enough to fellow gringos which is all I really care about to each his own.
As far as the guys who take a hard line on trying to get deals out of the girls and try to bargain too hard with the vendors it's not going to work it's coming back on you, I just will put a Target on your back. I've been coming here for several years several times a year everyone knows me they know my face they welcome me and they understand the way I operate it's the same for all the people who try to be difficult-.[/QUOTE]You are so right on this. I always tell my friends that the chicas are the best resource for information so keep them as friends and talk to them about daily things so you learn more. The whole "posse" mentality is why I only travel with 1 or 2 people max now. There have been many times when we are in the club and a chica will ask me where I'm staying and as soon as I say AirBB or casa they immediately want to know how many people are staying there with me. At first I was thinking they want to get me alone to drug me and rob me but then come to find out that's no the case, they ask because based on their experience and what other girls tell them, if there are allot of guys in the house multiple guys will try to fuck them for free without paying and then try to kick them out if they don't do it (This happened on my last trip with a chica who ended coming over to my place to sleep for the night because it was after curfew and unsafe for her to travel the distance home). Some chicas will refuse to go with a gringo when she finds out there are multiple guys staying there. On my last trip a new girl I got from tinder came over for a morning session and when she came in and saw how big the place was she wanted to search the whole apartment before we do anything, I couldn't help it but laugh but she heard stories and was scared. I had to have my boys chica who slept over come out his room and talk to her, then she was cool. But I understand her point of view, since Newbie left it was just 2 of us in that 3 bedroom 4 bathroom duplex. Usually when my friends and I get girls from the club, if one of them knows one of us from for another girls Instagram story or whatsapp status it works in our favor and she's totally relaxed and will talk to the other girls who don't know us to ensure them were not going to do anything stupid and everyone's happy. Its not as advanced as the Thai network where they take your picture and toss it in their secret group chat to get all the info if the gringo is good or bad but its a start.
I keep telling these guys coming from the Tristate area, DMV, ATL or Miami that they don't need a whole basketball team with them but they just don't get it.
Enjoy your time there! I know I sure did despite it raining every day jajaja. Every time I get on that plane to come back state side I start the countdown lock to the next return trip.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2605422]Great advice on the bargaining. I just keep it to a minimum and don't try to beat them down too hard. I find that a lot of the time the chicas end up spending 2,3 hours or more because of the good vibes and time I am showing them instead of a hard bargained business like 1 hour. Then they come back for more. Not all the time but when it happens its awesome and then you really get a bargain. Where do you stay in CTG that is chica freindly?[/QUOTE]Bargaining have become tiring now. When you have these new chicas telling you 800 mil la noche and its midnight it becomes so frustrating and usually we settle somewhere in the middle. Now I hardly try to get anything at night and just get them in the day due to day time I can get the same girl for 150 mil or 200 mil she comes over between 9 am or 10 am and hangs out for hours and I usually get 2 polvos if I'm not too sore. I say its all fair game if they want to overcharge then its fair to lowball them and see if they walk away to the next gringo who is willing to pay. I believe this is why I usually end up with many Venezuelans in my contact list, because based on my experience they are more reasonable with the price. The only downside is when I return they may not be there because they went back home or immigration issues.
But yes, I can't wait to return this year. Only downside is all my usual AirBB prices are way more expensive toward the end of the year or booked solid.
A day in Cartagena. Sept. 2021
My personal life doesn't allow me much opportunity to stumble unto this forum. That being said. As a long time member (many many years) I continue to visit and chime in when possible as this community always avoided trolling, children, and confrontation. It's about sharing information. And most importantly: mongering
After a bit of catching up I was astonished at some of the rubbish being tossed around.
Anyways; please excuse the rant and please allow me to heed my own advice and stay on point. Cartagena.
Arrived daytime and checked into airbnb 1 pmish daytime. Did a light stroll through side streets into clock tower and only stumbled onto two chubby SW. I'm a bit spoiled so I passed and this is now two day trips into Cartagena around clock tower where I find it difficult. It seems the internet is the best way to find hotties (Call me ol' fashion. I simply enjoy the scouring. Will try beach today as I've had luck in the past there during the day. Day compared to night are truly two separate sides of a coin in this town.
Buddy wanted to gamble so we ubered up to Casino Rio where despite wagering much higher denominations than anyone around us. It's nothing to the liking of Las Vegas where the chips attract honey. Here in Cartagena they seem to keep a lot of girls out of the casinos. Outside of girls already paired with men. I saw not-a-one. Got caught up w / beers, laughs and gamble and didn't make it to Clock / Watch Tower till 1:30 amish.
** There is a 2 am co-vid curfew in effect right now on this day in Cartagena*.
I had NO idea about this. While bullshitting with the girls I was told you could be fined. American I met said same thing. Information is posted online. Cops outside my airbnb were shooing people off the streets.
Arriving to Watch Tower about 1:30 am on a Friday I walked into at least 50+++ girls lined up on the wall, meandering around. Beer vendors and all the commotion! Genuinely didn't realize I was pressed for time.
Got attached by a young Venezuelan girl. Looked great with skirt. Drastically decreased while naked yet still terrific. Swore we agreed to 250,000 COP though once back at airbnb she hits me with 300,000. My buddy had her Amiga- they're giggling having fun so I simply went along. Back of my head I want to toss her out and replace.
Buddy with more exp. Paid 200,000 1 HR.
Got the job done extremely quick. 15 minutes to completetion. Then boy did both our attitudes change. She became an obsessed "Propena" witch!
I continued to tell her to relax, calm down. Just enjoy your beer and wait for your friend. "No no no. Propensity propensity propensity taxi taxi".
Offered 20,000 COP and she refuses. Continues to press. By this time I'm starting to get annoyed as I gave her the initial 50,000 pre-tip as a friendly gesture. Mistake (I finally change my tune. She wants to find her friend but we're in an extremely large place. (5 bedrooms) she walks out into the front of the house and I lock the front door so she cannot bother my friend and begin to walk her down the stairs as I'm through with this game. She obliges as there's cages and I verbally tell her I'll ok her ass in, I don't give a fuck I want some street food!
While ordering a hotdog she's still fucking asking me for taxi $$ She's going to the next door hotel security, telling random Colombian strangers. I mean wtf! She eventually walks up to the police who were ushering people off the busy street. I'm not taking my chances so I simply walk back to front of my airbnb and lock myself behind my metal cage and stand there drinking my beer.
She realizes no more $$$ - reaches through and hits me. Walks off.
Was extremely rude as I over paid, was a gentleman, offered taxi $$$ and my sex manuvers were light.
Moral of story: don't impulse purchase. Sometimes getting to know her a little bit may go along way? I dunno.
Today will try anew and hope to find a sweet gem.
Help for a Cartagena Newbie
Hello gents,
I am a first-timer to Cartagena. Do you have the tips to find the girls? I tried [URL]SA.com[/URL] for a few days, but didn't find any matches in Cartagena.
Which is the surprise, because I had lots of luck in Bogata and Medellin the past week.
Is there a way to find safe girls who will not rob and drugs me in my Airbnb. Agency girls? I don't mind paying a bit extra.
I don't think I will feel comfortable with just pick girl in streets. Esp since my building doesn't have security guard at night.
Hope you can help me with good advices.
Of if you have names and don't mind sharing, please PM me. I will appreciates.
U1.
Forget what you knew, its a whole new game
[QUOTE=AroundTheGlobe;2605679]My personal life doesn't allow me much opportunity to stumble unto this forum. That being said. As a long time member (many many years) I continue to visit and chime in when possible as this community always avoided trolling, children, and confrontation. It's about sharing information. And most importantly: mongering
After a bit of catching up I was astonished at some of the rubbish being tossed around.
Anyways; please excuse the rant and please allow me to heed my own advice and stay on point. Cartagena.
Arrived daytime and checked into airbnb 1 pmish daytime. Did a light stroll through side streets into clock tower and only stumbled onto two chubby SW. I'm a bit spoiled so I passed and this is now two day trips into Cartagena around clock tower where I find it difficult. It seems the internet is the best way to find hotties (Call me ol' fashion. I simply enjoy the scouring. Will try beach today as I've had luck in the past there during the day. Day compared to night are truly two separate sides of a coin in this town..[/QUOTE]Since every idiot now have a passport things changed. These weekend millionaires fly down, throw money and leave messing things up for the next monger.
If you read some of my reports I wee out allot of shit every day and just when I think I have it to a science something new comes along.
Your host should have told you about the 2 am - 5 am curfew when you checked in, it is a curtesy they should have given you.
Gong to the clockTower in the daytime is a big no that place is only for 9 pm - 1 am. You should head to HollyWood Beach around Kiosk#4 around 1 pm - 5 pm. Avoid Jose and his son, and all the annoying vendors. Get a chair close to water and hunt for what you want as they will be constantly walking by.
The chicas asking for payment in American dollars? As I've said before in my reports, my chicas tell me they are laughing at gringos coming down and asking how much, when the chica tell them $300 for the night the gringo think they are getting a deal as up here in the big city's its usually $300 for the hour.
The whole girl going back to talk to her friends about the price you gave her and she coming back to counter with a higher number? Yep! I've had that many times and it is so much bullshit when it happens. But if the chica knows you from her friends and you were good then they won't even negotiate because they know they are going to get paid to have fun.
Your next one should be better. Just a heads up, if you get them from inside the club they will try charge you more. Happy mongering jajaja.
I mixed up my replies jajaja
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2605977]Arrived in Cartagena late and it was raining. Quickly checked into my Airbnb and my friend and I hit the block. Hit both clubs but my friend is very choosy. We run into this problem everywhere we go. Prior to coming I was giving him photos of Friends of friends. He saw a few he liked however once Our feet touch the ground he became disinterest.
We went to both delirium and space. We also went to the club next to space. The women were asking American dollars. My friend is an all night man. I tried to negotiate with one Chica. I asked her her price and she had to go and talk to her friends. She came back and said $300 and something dollars for all night. I told her she will not eat tonight.
I had a repeat that said her prices were 300 k an hour or 600 k all night. I had to show her my photo. Sorry mommy you cannot up charge me. My conscience would not let me do it.[/QUOTE]Yes, the whole back and forth of her talking to her friends then coming back to you with a higher number is always bullshit and whenever they do that to me I usually just walk away, lowball them, or counter with my original price + taxi fare.
Asking for $300 is the new norm as these large city guys are accustom to paying $300 for the hour so when they hear $300 for the night they think they are getting a deal and happily pay for it. Meanwhile the chicas are laughing at them overpaying.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2605984]I noticed the taxi drivers are being more and more deceitful. Gentlemen please have your 10 k peso or small change Ahead of time. If you give them a large bill do not expect to get your full change. I had one cab driver telling me it was a tip and would not give me my complete change. The argument was to no avail because I gave The big bill And I know how taxi drivers can get down. It wasn't about the money with me. I was upset because he looked at me holding onto my money asserting is propina.
I had another cab driver they drove me around 10 extra minutes. It was only a five minute drive but I was trying to find my Airbnb. I gave him 70 k pesos for helping me. That MF started asking for some more. I told him in English to kick rocks. He didn't understand the words but he understood my body language.
There was another cab driver who try to charge us 30 K for a normally 10 K ride. His excuse was it's raining. I told him to get his money from mother nature because it's not my fault.
These cabdrivers attitudes are so different than how they were in January. This is being corrupted fast and we mongers are the root cause of it. With more and more Americans in large groups spinning money loosely; I can only imagine how things are going to be in another 6 to 8 months.
Another problem I had was the Uber driver canceling my ride. That was a reason why we were late waiting on an Uber driver.[/QUOTE]As a chica told me, many of the cab drivers are not actually cab drivers. They are curriers for drugs and other things and the taxi job is their cover. What I normally do is I punch in the address in Waze and once they enter Centro I direct them with "izquierda, derecha, despacito, aqui" My Spanish is very basic but those were the most important words I learned once I realized these cab drivers have no sense of direction once they enter Centro with all the one way streets.
Every idiot with a pulse have a passport now and they are bringing their ways overseas spreading the nonsense. Once these stimulus checks dry up and PPP loan funds dry up things will return to normal.