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[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2193122]Coincidence sometimes looks like conspiracy. But here's a rule of thumb I have learned from working in many different kinds of organizations: assume incompetence before malevolence. Malevolent conspiratorial actions require skills and coordination; incompetence requires neither of these.
[/QUOTE]That's a good saying. I'm thinking about the airline security requirement that luggage doesn't fly if the checked-in pax doesn't board the flight. Another great corporate error. I assumed they cared.

All of that being said I have chatted a few CP flight attendants a bit of flirting and gotten zero phone numbers or any real attention or interest. Hey generally seem to be well educated and remunerated. They work long shifts.

[QUOTE=PinaLove;2194353]All of that being said I have chatted a few CP flight attendants a bit of flirting and gotten zero phone numbers or any real attention or interest. Hey generally seem to be well educated and remunerated. They work long shifts.[/QUOTE]And short and unattractive women need not apply.

[QUOTE=PinaLove;2194353]That's a good saying. I'm thinking about the airline security requirement that luggage doesn't fly if the checked-in pax doesn't board the flight. Another great corporate error. I assumed they cared.

[/QUOTE]A lot of airlines have this policy. There is a recognised risk of terrorists checking in rigged baggage, but not taking the flight.

[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2194482]A lot of airlines have this policy. There is a recognised risk of terrorists checking in rigged baggage, but not taking the flight.[/QUOTE]Most good carriers nowadays will not let baggage go unattended in the hold of an aircraft.

I fly a lot and at times we are delayed as someone has checked in the bags, not appeared at the gate and these must be removed. It is a real pain when that happens especially on a full A380 but better safe than sorry.

As for the smaller carries and the more third world countries this can be slap dash at best.

[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2194482]A lot of airlines have this policy. There is a recognised risk of terrorists checking in rigged baggage, but not taking the flight.[/QUOTE]This has been airline policy ever since 9/11.

I have been delayed numerous times all over the world by the need to remove checked bags from the plane that belong to someone who checked in the bag but didn't board.

It even happened on a domestic flight Sydney to Melbourne.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2194531]This has been airline policy ever since 9/11.

I have been delayed numerous times all over the world by the need to remove checked bags from the plane that belong to someone who checked in the bag but didn't board.

It even happened on a domestic flight Sydney to Melbourne.[/QUOTE]You will also hear lots of page calls for last passenger to board, telling them that if they do not board immediately, their luggage will be removed. Often the people board late and the plane departs but once they open the baggage compartment to get the bags the passanger will be denied boarding.

I saw that at an adjacent gate once, the passenger arrived a minute after they opened the baggage compartment and was denied boardimng. They were not happy and everyone within ear shot of them know it.

Does anyone have experience with bringing a pinay to the USA for a few weeks on a tourist visa? The girl will need to apply for the visa and the gentleman will need to assume financial support for that trip. In looking around on the web I think you can do this by affidavit. The guy has a good job in a very vanilla industry so hopefully there will not be a suspicion of sex trafficking.

Any experiences, hints or suggestions?

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2197163]Does anyone have experience with bringing a pinay to the USA for a few weeks on a tourist visa? The girl will need to apply for the visa and the gentleman will need to assume financial support for that trip. In looking around on the web I think you can do this by affidavit. The guy has a good job in a very vanilla industry so hopefully there will not be a suspicion of sex trafficking.

Any experiences, hints or suggestions?[/QUOTE]Where does this gentleman assume financial support for that trip come from? That is not part of any tourist visa process that I have ever heard of. If it was that simple, this place would be swarming with third world hookers. The person requesting the visa must show they have enough to support themselves. They want bank statements. They must also prove good reason to return, such as property in their name and a very good job. A Brazilian friend of mine tried to pull that so and so will be responsible for me. They asked, well what if something happens to so and so? She had no answer for that. Denied!

I have helped several friends get a visa, but these were by no means desolate chicks that would depend on my care. The times that we had seen each other I would always make sure to take pictures together in different situations showing that we have a history together and I didn't just meet this person on the internet last night. Then I would make a letter saying they would stay with me on such and such dates and include a picture of my passport and driver's license on the letter. The girl would take the letter and all of our photos to the interview with her. But like I said, these were chicks with places to live and jobs to return to. If you are just trying for some educationless, jobless scalawag to come see you then they pretty much know it is sex trafficking. And in the words of Judge Judy, it ain't going to happen.

Difficult if the girls is not a professional; as in a trade other than in the sex trade. If visiting family members, they get also suspicious. But can be done.

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2197163]Does anyone have experience with bringing a pinay to the USA for a few weeks on a tourist visa? The girl will need to apply for the visa and the gentleman will need to assume financial support for that trip. In looking around on the web I think you can do this by affidavit. The guy has a good job in a very vanilla industry so hopefully there will not be a suspicion of sex trafficking.

Any experiences, hints or suggestions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2197175]Where does this gentleman assume financial support for that trip come from? That is not part of any tourist visa process that I have ever heard of. If it was that simple, this place would be swarming with third world hookers. The person requesting the visa must show they have enough to support themselves. They want bank statements. They must also prove good reason to return, such as property in their name and a very good job. A Brazilian friend of mine tried to pull that so and so will be responsible for me. They asked, well what if something happens to so and so? She had no answer for that. Denied!

I have helped several friends get a visa, but these were by no means desolate chicks that would depend on my care. The times that we had seen each other I would always make sure to take pictures together in different situations showing that we have a history together and I didn't just meet this person on the internet last night. Then I would make a letter saying they would stay with me on such and such dates and include a picture of my passport and driver's license on the letter. The girl would take the letter and all of our photos to the interview with her. But like I said, these were chicks with places to live and jobs to return to. If you are just trying for some educationless, jobless scalawag to come see you then they pretty much know it is sex trafficking. And in the words of Judge Judy, it ain't going to happen.[/QUOTE]And it can be even more complicated. One time I asked a Philippine friend to come visit me in Kuala Lumpur. No visa granted for her in Malaysia. But she was denied to leave the Philippines by their imigrationsofficers in the airport. They asked why she should go. She answered honestly "to meet boyfriend". They was scared that it was a victim for human T. I booked a new ticket for her for the next day and send her copy of some fligts we have done together. Normaly I never take pictures but luckily we also had a couble of pictures. She also printed some conversations from Messenger. Then she get permision to leave the country.

Unmarried, no child and / or under 25 can create problems because of HT concerns. Will get worse when metoo hits Asia. Even worse when Miss(?) America no swimsuit thinking hits Asia.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;2197181]But she was denied to leave the Philippines by their imigrationsofficers in the airport.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2197163]Does anyone have experience with bringing a pinay to the USA for a few weeks on a tourist visa? ....[/QUOTE]I have an American friend with a Thai wife. He has had trouble getting her a tourist visa up until a couple years of marriage. For some reason they would never issue her one. At one meeting he was advised to get her a Green Card, he was told it would be easier than getting her a tourist visa?

The laws and rules on visa's and immigration are very complex and then the actual enforcement is left up to a relatively low level administrator who is paying his or her dues before moving up in the system. They will never be blamed for denying someone entry but will be blamed f someone they issue a visa to breaks the rules. This is not only an American phenomena but one I have seen just about everywhere. Of course the current political climate in the US does not help, with all the press on illegal immigration.

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2197163]Does anyone have experience with bringing a pinay to the USA for a few weeks on a tourist visa? The girl will need to apply for the visa and the gentleman will need to assume financial support for that trip. In looking around on the web I think you can do this by affidavit. The guy has a good job in a very vanilla industry so hopefully there will not be a suspicion of sex trafficking.

Any experiences, hints or suggestions?[/QUOTE]If she is not wealthy with substantial real estate, business, and a large stream of steady income in her name, she will not get a tourist visa. Filipinas abscond at a high rate on tourist visas, and even 90-day K-1 visas, running off to live with relatives already in the USA or to marry a younger wealthier man than the sponsor. The vanilla guy is going to have to fly to the Philippines to bang her, or find one that already ran away from her K-1 sponsor to bang if his good job in the vanilla industry does not give him any vacation time.

Gentlemen. Thank you for all of the replies and advice. Let me respond.

I've know this pinay for maybe ten years. She is over 25, single and has one child. Familiar pinay story. She has a university degree, actually a fairly substantive one (not hotel management), but does not have a "real job" at the moment. She has worked overseas and returned to the Philippines when her contract was up. She has been corresponding and talking with the guy in the US for more than four years. As I mentioned in my original post, the guy is a US citizen of an appropriate age and has a professional job in a very vanilla industry and doesn't fit the mold of someone who would bring over a girl to traffic.

I brought my Asian wife to the US on a K-1 so I'm very familiar with relationship evidence and have advised her how to build a portfolio.

The problem is financial and propensity to return to the Philippines. We can build a fairly good roots case based on her child and family ties. It's the financial thing that worries me.

Mr. Ent: he's a US guy with credible career. I'm thinking of advising her that she needs to develop a financial package that includes his commitment to support the trip.

Blushes: Thanks for your comment. She has an overseas work history but not a professional career.

Aske: Yep, I'm aware of the departure probs. She will need to have evidence with her. The same as she used for the visa.

Kabul: Yep, I agree the system is wired to denial.

Thanks again guys for you inputs. Does anyone know of a case where a USA tourist visa was approved based, in part, on financial responsibility from the guy she was visiting?

[QUOTE=NiceGuy99;2197263]Thanks again guys for you inputs. Does anyone know of a case where a USA tourist visa was approved based, in part, on financial responsibility from the guy she was visiting?[/QUOTE]That may not be a good idea if he is her boy friend. The main criteria is she needs to demonstrate that she has strong ties (stable job, property) in Philippines so she will return after the visit. If she wants to get a tourist visa, the best thing to do is to act and prepare like a tourist for the interview.