Moscow

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]

It's a clusterfuck with Russian law. I don't have time to get registered.

I get by with a bribe.

Bez is in the boondocks for the cool hats.

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AJ, just call your travel agent and they'll hook you up. Its a breeze.

I was just here doing nothing, so I just wanted to remind some good old things in Moscow around 1994-6.

So you all notice how the city is changed.

If you could not afford National or Metropol (expensive as today) you could get the suites at the Intourist Hotel (now it’s demolished, It was on Tverskaya just behind National), the corner ones were comfortable with A/C and all you needed, even a nice view over the Kreml.

Here a picture: [url]http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/01/08/moscow.hotel/[/url]

Already at the bar in the lobby and in the sofa you could see some girls, just two or three, the real thing was going on at the third floor…

I remember taking the lift typical six elevator soviet block… 8x8 meters, when the door opened you could see, around 10-11 pm, already 15 or 20 girls, then you had to go to the bar… at the right (in front there was still a beriozka!) The girls were living in the hotel, in the cheap rooms at CIS citizen prices (at that time there were still double prices).

You just got right from the elevators (at the left there was a pantera bar with older girls, around 25-30 y.o. usually very cultured and well English speaking), got in the bar making your steps in a corridor full of willing teens…

The bar went restructured… firs it had the classical desk like a pub plus a lot of “closed” tables… you just had to sit there take a drink, look around and smile to a chosen girl, in a couple of minutes she was sitting there usually asking for a coke or a beer (they had no idea of night club concept making you spending on drinks!). After renovation there was a dance podium in the middle, so you could choose the girls even better!

The standard rate was 100 USD/night, often including BBBJ and anal! 150 for 24 hours!

I met two sisters (18 and 20) and tried to do them both, but they did not want… (I was already a pig :D ) One (18teen obviously) stayed a whole week in my room…

Another time two friends got two interpreters (Russian-Hungarian!), ya they were called so… Interpreters, of course they did a lot of togue work (on cocks!). My friends got tired on them, but living with their mates they had (for saving money) reserved other days for their room… Two nights and no place to go! The hotel was full for a religious meeting so low chanches in getting customers so I got them for two days for free, offering room/food, etc, but on ground they had no hotel card they could not get out of the hotel, really funny! A real 2 day orgy... I did not need Cialis at that time!

As in the pics section I wrote another thing this kind of Moscow do not exists anymore! Unfortunately! :(

IT

Fellow Mongers,

Has anybody ever heard of this service provider or has already some experience with it?

[url]http://www.russian-escorting.com/[/url]

Thank you for your kind feedback,

L.

I enjoy the mixed blessing of living next to an apartment brothel (or "salon" as the girls like to call it) in central Moscow. For 'defender's day' my company gave me a pair of binoculars, ostensibly to defend the motherland from fascists. I managed to put them to good use spying on the brothel,which keeps its windows open now that the weather is warmer. Anyway, the set up goes as follows - you ring #39 and they let you in (it's at 7 Tatarskaya, btw) and proceed to the top floor. There's a decked-out pink flat with neoclassical trim, where you're given a selection of about 5 girls to choose from - more on the weekends when they come in from the other cities. They charge either 2000 or 3000 roubles (80 or 120 bucks) based on quality. The salon has done well and now maintains satellite apartments in the surrounding buildings. I managed to get one of the cheaper ones, and on my way out I saw these fellow i-bankers. One of them had hooked up with this girl that had fallen for me months before, who I was surprised and happy to see - I had thought she was back in Tambov. I wanted to switch but mine was a few shades shorter, quality-wise. I should have slipped the banker 50 bones to close the deal.

Anyway the provincial girls are coming - school is out in a week and all of the new recruits are going to start to arrive at the city's open-air ***** markets. This 19-year old girl I got for about 20 bucks/hour in Saratov (the agency takes half- ha ha ha) called me at 2am last night because her dog had died and she felt depressed. Where else in the world does that happen?

[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]Doc, Bez,

What's the new info about the registration?

I am planing to stay at my friend's apartment and register at travel agency(that I used several times).

Is this still possible or there are new regulations on registration procedures.

As usual I will be there for the weekend(approx. 38 hours)

Thnx.[/QUOTE]Registration is no longer the mind-boggling hassle it once was. I used to use [url]www.visalink.ru[/url], which will register you for about 40 bucks for a month. I'm here with a work permit and so now my company registers me.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]You are planning to go to Moscow and then refer to my post about St.Petersburg? That's a bad start.

Sponsorship has been discussed again and again on this board and you are still asking what it is?[/QUOTE]When you talk about 'internet' sponsorship specifically, I assume you mean finding a girl on one of the camslut sites (camcontacts, imlive) and making an offer, or do you mean finding a girl cold on icq or love.mail.ru that's po' and will jump at the chance? Many girls at this time of the year want to move to Moscow, and are more likely to sleep with you if you lie and say you own your flat, because owning a flat in Moscow is one of the few ways a 'normal' guy can become amazingly rich... (apartments are worth $4,000/m2 and up)

just arrived home from 6 day first time visit to moscow.

fascinating city. had some old friends (married couple) living there and I had spent the first three nights with them. although it was nice and off the beaten track nothing to report here.

on my last last night (unfortunately) moved to a friends rented house on tverskaya 6. fabulous apartment just for $250 night and it was serviced very professionally. Their addy can be found on Moscow Times (free english newspaper) which also has a website version.

After work, we eat at a place called pyramide cafe on tverskaya..mind you it was 30-35 celcius in moscow this week and you can NOT imagine what an eye-candy girls walking on Tverskaya were. I have travelled to more than 20 countries which some of which are holy monger destinations (cuba, thailand, brazil, ukraine) never seen anything like that. After dinner, my friend took me to a strip club called Safari. Brothers, that place rocked. Imagine a small place, like Luomo in Rio, put 50-60 half naked gorgeous slav women who walk around, tease and beg you for a lap dance with their gorgeous bodies, tight little asses and firm handful breasts. I thought I like bigger breasts but after this experience I changed my mind. Lap dance costs 200 rubles per song where you can do almost anything except fingering and kissing. You can have a more intimate 2 song version in a private cabin for 2000 rubles and fuck suck is also on the menu for app $200 per 30 minutes. So almost a Russian version of a Therma. After Safari, we head for the infamous Night Flight to complete my Moscow pilgramage. We got a cab and got off about 100 meters from NF. I saw 2 militia checking the ids of some local teenagers. For some stupid reason, I thought we could pass by while they were busy with them but the moment they saw us, they kind of launched on us. The thing is, you need to register within 3 working days. Since I have been told that it was a lot of hassle and I was leaving on the 4th day, I of course did not bother with registiring. The militia was very kind but said that it is a problem and that they will take us to the police station. My friend, who speaks sufficient russian, did not want me to spend my last hours in Moscow in a police station, so he settled a bribe of USD 250 (he was not registered either) with them. Guess their starting price for USD 400.

We got away and entered NF. One of the owners, was a friend of my friend so he treated us in. Wow. Its worth all the reputation. Although it was almost 2 am and probably most of the cute ones were already taken there were lots lots lots of beautiful women. They were quite agressive too. Some were jaded directly getting to the subject but some were quite nice to talk. My friend got a 10 face brunette and managed to get her down to USD 200 for 1 hour. I have been told that she worth every penny. I did some market research but the Newbie written on my forehead with zero russian skills the prices offered to me were mainly in the range of USD 400. Well it might worth if you got her early and fuck her all night long, maybe. Anyway, could not find the girl who would worth that in my book so I left empty handed.

Despite its crazy expensive nightlife, snobbish but at the same time the most unfucking belivable beautiful women, chaotic logistics for a non-russian speaker, Moscow is a place where each monger should see before he dies.

[QUOTE=Atreides75]... Guess their starting price for USD 400.

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Just like an NF ho? :)

You're still paying for sex. I spend about 20 dollars a night on my own drinks and I am still grabbing asses and kisses with consent IN THE US. I am reducing my costs over time. Russian is a backup plan that I haven't had to use yet. The risks are too high. I'll go as a far as prague. But heh, keep doing what you are doing. I am down to 20 a weekend to meet women in their 20s and I am middle age and average looking and I am doing this in the states. I try to use the experience over seas and apply it to the states. Anyone can pay for it but who wants to live like this where money does not grow on trees. I am just looking to come up with creative ideas. But sometimes you can't teach a monkey to dance.

There are producers and there are consumers. I don't want to be a consumer. Women have needs. Even good looking chicks like to fuck. They are fucking someone for free and it is not you. There are guys out there who are getting laid without paying for it. That's why I don't want to pay for an escort, because I know she is giving it away for free and laughing at you. I analyze the Moscow posts to try to understand how the freebies think. I do not believe that freebies just exist in Moscow. I think the Girls Gone Wild culture in the States is just a more subtle version of the freebies.

[QUOTE=Guy #2]You're still paying for sex. I spend about 20 dollars a night on my own drinks and I am still grabbing asses and kisses with consent IN THE US. I am reducing my costs over time. Russian is a backup plan that I haven't had to use yet. The risks are too high. I'll go as a far as prague. But heh, keep doing what you are doing. I am down to 20 a weekend to meet women in their 20s and I am middle age and average looking and I am doing this in the states. I try to use the experience over seas and apply it to the states. Anyone can pay for it but who wants to live like this where money does not grow on trees. I am just looking to come up with creative ideas. But sometimes you can't teach a monkey to dance.[/QUOTE]

G2:

Kindly do us all a favor and take your drivel to another board... it has nothing to do with Moscow, Russia or the thousands of super babes there you'll never fuck because you're too fucking cheap.

It Travel,

Its changed beyond recognition. Even back in 1999 I could get $150/night at the National just by turning up (although the room they usually gave me was like a broom cupboard in size), whilst the turn-up rate at the Intourist was $99. Although going upstairs to the Travel Agency in the building allowed you to buy vouchers often for $60. A weird and wonderful system alas no longer with us. Once turned up on-spec at the Intourist. Told me it was full. Walked around the corner and managed to persuade them to take $150/night at the National. National NEVER questioned the girls, at least if they were accompanied by you on the way in. I loved that place. Still do. Although its very pricy now. (it actually used to be part of the intourist chain in the 50s/60s/70s and 80s), as did the Savoy (also a nice hotel, perhaps not as good as the National but excellent Restaurant on the corner).

Before my seven years working in Moscow I actually stayed at probably all the major Hotels. I liked the National the best, Marriot Tverskaya the worst, others in between.

Once left $1000 in my room at the national. Forgot about it for a week (was busy.) remembered. Called them. And they had found it and kept it for me in the safe. Amazing. That was 1999 for you.

I have been checking out some of the sites like intimcity and devushki - I know that these are mostly "glammed up" but WOW, even if they are only 10% "real", these are women to spend the night of fun. Nice long, slim legs from floor to "heaven". Hope to find some of this talent in some of the clubs mentioned in the various ISG reports.
Can't wait for my first time trip to Moscow later part of this year.

[QUOTE=Privetprivet] Although its very pricy now. (it actually used to be part of the intourist chain in the 50s/60s/70s and 80s), as did the Savoy (also a nice hotel, perhaps not as good as the National but excellent Restaurant on the corner).

Before my seven years working in Moscow I actually stayed at probably all the major Hotels. I liked the National the best, Marriot Tverskaya the worst, others in between.

Once left $1000 in my room at the national. Forgot about it for a week (was busy.) remembered. Called them. And they had found it and kept it for me in the safe. Amazing. That was 1999 for you.[/QUOTE]

You mean "Grand Opera" near Savoy? Nice place, but haven't been there in years. Friend of mine once paid a 500 ruble bill with 500 euros (both approx same color) at Akademiya on Kamergersky and the waiter brought it back saying he couldn't change it. Sometimes in a city as cutthroat and corrupt as Moscow the honesty can be astounding.

Which hotels you like now?

I like SwissOtel for the best rooms, but location is impractical.

Hyatt Ararat has great lobby and roof terrace, rooms OK.

Budapest/Peter 1 also have good location and OK price, but average rooms.

Everything central 4*+seems to run at least $350/night these days, the new Ritz Carlton supposedly will "start" at $700/night... crazy ass prices.

As for me, I always liked Marriott Tverskaya, despite its less than ideal location and average facilities... but banging 2 of their staff in 1999-2000 might have influenced my decision. Life was too easy back then. Even strippers would meet you for free if they thought you might rescue them from economic doom. Tsunami was my favorite strip club, little podunk club in the basement. Closed years ago. Things changed about 2002 as Russia suddenly felt the money really flowing in and many Russian women decided there was more opportunity for them (i.e.$$$) by staying in Moscow with the locals as opposed to abandoning ship, at least that's the impression I got. Not that things ever got truly bad (they still aren't), but things definitely changed.

[QUOTE=Blaked]When you talk about 'internet' sponsorship specifically, I assume you mean finding a girl on one of the camslut sites (camcontacts, imlive) and making an offer, or do you mean finding a girl cold on icq or love.mail.ru that's po' and will jump at the chance? Many girls at this time of the year want to move to Moscow, and are more likely to sleep with you if you lie and say you own your flat, because owning a flat in Moscow is one of the few ways a 'normal' guy can become amazingly rich... (apartments are worth $4,000/m2 and up)[/QUOTE]

I mean those actively looking for sponsors, for example on love.mail.ru. They are getting more aggresive too... they write me all the time. Many of them turn out to simply be girls working in salons. Seems that regular pros and agencies are infiltrating the sponsorship market, which actually is something between prostitution and girlfriend depending on how you choose to see it... sponsorship doesn't make much sense for me personally, but for some I suppose its a good deal.