East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=ThomKatt;2106770]Hey fellers,

Anyone know about the red light districts where only locals go still operating? The ones in qibao and Fengzhuang? With the lock down, I'm wondering if these places were still running, or have they been demolished a long time ago?[/QUOTE]Any takers? They're a bit out of the way where I'm staying, wouldn't want to go and be thoroughly disappointed.

Also, any info on:

Caojiadu.

Xianan road.

If the officers were using a clicker on keeping tabs of people going in and out, its for fire safety. Anyone notice if they had on police uniforms? Could have been auxiliaries, which don't do anything.

As for the VPN issue, I've never had to use a VPN to get on ISG. I've always been able to get on ISG without a VPN whether at home or at a Starbucks.

[QUOTE=NRock;2107509]
By the time January rolls around though, my guess is fewer WG will bother making the trip to Shanghai and the talent will slowly erode as they hear about how difficult is to do business. We'll see.[/QUOTE]Yes, that could definitely be an outcome or some other bar will take its place. Although I have never been, I hear Zapata's is also a good place to pick up talent or the German restaurant down in Xian Tian di. Never tried either.

It must be a great time to be in shanghai then. Girls must be giving pretty good pricing (or service) with some stuck outside the bar. I remember a girl I picked up for 900 a year ago. She was probably a 5-6 but had not had a lot of business. Body was great and face ok., She popped me 3 times that night. She was up for a 4th. But I was not. she wanted another night. Not pretty enough to be repeatable but a good evening.

Thank you! anyone with updates on Judy's or Manhattans keep them coming!!!! I have always provided good intel on my adventures. (check my posts over the years) I would appreciate some help here. PM works if you're shy or concerned.

[QUOTE=SamCan;2107651]Yes, that could definitely be an outcome or some other bar will take its place. Although I have never been, I hear Zapata's is also a good place to pick up talent or the German restaurant down in Xian Tian di. Never tried either.

It must be a great time to be in shanghai then. Girls must be giving pretty good pricing (or service) with some stuck outside the bar. I remember a girl I picked up for 900 a year ago. She was probably a 5-6 but had not had a lot of business. Body was great and face ok., She popped me 3 times that night. She was up for a 4th. But I was not. she wanted another night. Not pretty enough to be repeatable but a good evening.

Thank you! anyone with updates on Judy's or Manhattans keep them coming!!!! I have always provided good intel on my adventures. (check my posts over the years) I would appreciate some help here. PM works if you're shy or concerned.[/QUOTE]I have been to both Zapata's and Paulaner, which is the German place I assume you are referring to at XinTianDi. Zapata's is fun if you are in your 20's /30's and can blend into the crowd but the issue the majority of the patrons are regular folks having a good time. Pretty hard to gauge which ones are WGs and I didn't think the talent was as good looking as Judy's or Manhattan. Paulaner is an odd place partly because XinTianDi is an artificial community and very contrived. I liked the German beergarden feel and didn't try to pick up anyone there because everything is pretty out in the open to the public.

Oh well, cities evolve and I'm sure something else will pop up to address the demand.

Thanks for all those who replied.

I use a VPN, based in the US, ran by Chinese Ex-pats, so I am not surprised that it got blocked (and continued to be blocked) because it is very popular among the locals. I was going to switch over to Express VPN or Nord, but according to the article, all VPN providers will be blocked. They are working with China TeleCom, China Mobile and UniComm to block access to them. I do not want to take out one years subscription and found out in 3 months that it will be worthless.

Between the goverment's actions on VPNs and naughty businesses, it is getting very frustrating.

I thought ID give something back to the community, sorry for posting late (my first post). Was in SH in April 2017.

First night: Tired from 15 h flight and jetlag, but hey. Judys and Manhattan were both running at that time with 70% girls when I was in there. Did not bring anyone but spoke to several just for fun. Tell the girls you like to go outside for some air, outside you park close to a lamp to check them out in decent light, 50% looked the same as inside the place, the other 50% had a ton of make up to hide their real age. Good to know before you decide who to bring. I will always do this. The spot and Zapatas were really good hunting grounds as well and the girls were really easy to talk to. Not obvious it was a bar just to meet girls, but lets say the normal Chinese girls does seem to have other hobbys than hanging out at bars with westeners in the evening, all girls seemed to be more or less interested in making contact. Stayed at Peoples square, Marriott, decided to walk back from Zapatas at 2 AM. Should have been like 4 km, but new in town and drunk it was at least 6 km. Funny thing 1, a not very good looking 30 something girl on a bike followed me half the way trying to make me interested in sex. She was levering the price continuously and came down to 200 RMB for whatever I liked on the street or at her place, said she lived close. At that time I was tired of being harassed so I stopped joking with her and asked her to get the heck out of there so she left. Funny thing 2, back at Marriott, 3 AM or something, two other dudes returning with 2 girls they apparently picked up somewhere. One dude changed his mind or never had any interest but the chinese girl holds on to him anyway. We go up in the same elevator all 5 and in the elevator she decides to try me instead, I think this is hilarious to be picked up in an elevator at 3 AM so I agree to let her come to my room. We all go off at different floors, she comes back with me. In room I send her to the shower and I put all my valuable belongings in the safety while she is in the bathroom, after this we both undress and she starts to do her best. Even more drunk, tired and jet lagged I hardly manage to keep my eyes open so I send her away with unfinished business after 15 minutes with a 300 RMB tip. I slept well for 12 h after this.

Second night: Staying on executive floor you get access to a lounge with free food and booze. This was packed with westeners having a good time and I met a really nice (but drunk) american lady there that decided to have some fun with me.

Third night: Changed hotel to the Eton due to business. Plenty of massage places and bars with working girls on the street outside the hotel. Tried one named "American sportsbar" or something similar. Bought drinks for a really nice girl, 20 something, with a fantastic body with small rock hard tits. We connected on Wechat and she kept texting me for 2 days, asking if I was coming back to the bar and so on. Did not try but was pretty sure it would have been easy to get her come to the hotel after closing time.

Some day later I tried one of the massage places outside Eton. Really good looking girl but no English. 600 RMB for full nude, some fingering, kissing and HJ. Likely a little pricey, the place was clean but not very nice. There were about 5-10 massage places and 5-10 girlie bars outside Eton.

Funny thing, two really good looking western girls came out of one massage place one evening, I really could not stop thinking about what had happened in there, would have enjoyed watching them getting a he.

Going to CH again soon and was maybe planning to take a short stop in SH just for some fun, but due to later reports it seems like maybe I can have a better time in some other city.

[QUOTE=GregoryB;2107395]Wenli does advertise here under classifieds, but you may as well learn more going to.

Or just PM to me.

Gregory.[/QUOTE]I know you like Wenli, and have frequently plugged her in this forum. That's fine. But for most of us, a woman in her 40's might be a bit too aged, even if she looks good for middle-aged.

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;2107766]Thanks for all those who replied.

I use a VPN, based in the US, ran by Chinese Ex-pats, so I am not surprised that it got blocked (and continued to be blocked) because it is very popular among the locals. I was going to switch over to Express VPN or Nord, but according to the article, all VPN providers will be blocked. They are working with China TeleCom, China Mobile and UniComm to block access to them. I do not want to take out one years subscription and found out in 3 months that it will be worthless.

Between the goverment's actions on VPNs and naughty businesses, it is getting very frustrating.[/QUOTE]I am glad that the Lantern is working again, but it was on and off for about two weeks.

I am also glad that I kept my ExpressVPN account even though I thought Lantern is wonderful.

I never know if I will need a backup solution.

If I do return to the states, I will probably fix myself a very private VPN.

There are also rumors that IPV6 is inherently incompatible with the GFW.

Which is why China is so interested in setting the 5 G standard which will be compatible with the wall.

There has been many posts where everyone shares their personal experience with the VPN services. We can see it seems that it is not consistent on daily, weekly or monthly bases. Many are not aware, that there is a org monitoring this. I would like to share this link which gives a glance of what is working and what is not.

I hope this helps many on making a right decision on VPN, SSL or similar services.

[URL]https://cc.greatfire.org/en[/URL]

Ciao!

Gesh.

YMMV, let's know some contacts here or via PM.

Thanks, Gregory.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;2108004]I know you like Wenli, and have frequently plugged her in this forum. That's fine. But for most of us, a woman in her 40's might be a bit too aged, even if she looks good for middle-aged.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregoryB;2108161]YMMV, let's know some contacts here or via PM.

Thanks, Gregory.[/QUOTE]No problem. I still like Hu Jing from SNG fame. Not as pretty as a few years ago, but still quite good and really aims to please.

[QUOTE=Geshtasp;2108156]There has been many posts where everyone shares their personal experience with the VPN services. We can see it seems that it is not consistent on daily, weekly or monthly bases. Many are not aware, that there is a org monitoring this. I would like to share this link which gives a glance of what is working and what is not.

I hope this helps many on making a right decision on VPN, SSL or similar services.

[URL]https://cc.greatfire.org/en[/URL]

Ciao!

Gesh.[/QUOTE]As expected, that site requires a VPN to be viewed in China. LOL.

[QUOTE=Geshtasp;2108156]There has been many posts where everyone shares their personal experience with the VPN services. We can see it seems that it is not consistent on daily, weekly or monthly bases. Many are not aware, that there is a org monitoring this. I would like to share this link which gives a glance of what is working and what is not.

I hope this helps many on making a right decision on VPN, SSL or similar services.

[URL]https://cc.greatfire.org/en[/URL][/QUOTE]This page is just a page for them to make $$ like many pages comparing VPNs.

The best and most stable VPNs are note even mentionned on it.

BTW please bring all this talk about VPNs to [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?938-General-Info[/URL].

The current thread is about Shanghai.

But via PM there may be more to share!! Just ask and hopefully some brothers come forward as well.

Gregory.

[QUOTE=TheGuy;2108372]No problem. I still like Hu Jing from SNG fame. Not as pretty as a few years ago, but still quite good and really aims to please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregoryB;2108488]But via PM there may be more to share!! Just ask and hopefully some brothers come forward as well.

Gregory.[/QUOTE]The funny thing is that they were the only 2 that I saw last month. Hahaha.