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[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]Hello,

I have been using aTel 3 advantage calling card to call Colombia. This card is the type that is rechargeable, and I am suppose to be paying only 12 cents a minute from the United States to call cellular phones with billing at one minute increments. However, this is not the case, as I am being billed according to my call history that is viewable on the internet for 2 minute increments, and for calls that do not go through, such as dead time, or if the call goes through but is not answered. I have contacted Tel 3 Advantage many times in the past about this situation, only to be told that I will be reimbursed, and my complaint will be expedited to the technicians, only to never have anything done. In any even event this gets quite expensive, which brings me to my question:

What is the preferred calling method, and with whom, for you members who regularly call Colombia?

Thanks again for the info.![/QUOTE]

For you guys having phone issues, I suggest you look into magicJack. Its a USB thumb drive with a phone attachment that allows you to make free calls within the US and the International rates are cheap. For example a call to Colombia (landline) is 5 cents a minute. Like vonage you can tote it around wherever you are in the world.

Anyone know of a sports bar in Bogota that show American football?

Please advise.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Anyone know of a sports bar in Bogota that show American football?

Please advise.[/QUOTE]Lots of gringos watch fotball in sports bars and pubs. Bogota Beer Companies, Irish Pubs (amounting to more than 10 in different areas of the city) and such always have their tvs on, mostly with sports. You just have to tell the bartender to switch to the correct channel, and you'll get to watch the game of your choice (of course, if there are no colombians watching soccer, which they just won't change).

[QUOTE=Trendy Andy]If it helps: When the girl use a comcel card f . e. you can write SMS on their website [url]www.comcel.com.co[/url] for free.[/QUOTE]Free-ish. The receiver pays, so many people switch it off.

Would you rather spend two weeks in Bog or CTG or BA?

I have my R&R comming up in 20 days want to know which place is better for:

1) Beauty of women
2) Pliability of women--BBBJ, GFE, turning a pro into a multi-day date
3) Non-mongering activities
4) Prices of girls--BA seems like $200-$250 for an 8-10 for a few hours from Blacks or Mahdallos while BOG or CTG seems like about 1/2 -2/3 of that price
5) Prices of nice accomodation--will be on my own dime as opposed to an expense account.
6) Safety of city and disco scene.
7) Airfare from Dubai/NYC. I see a BOG RT for about $1500 on AA while a trip to EZE is about $1900.

I've been to BOG and CTG about 6 years ago and liked it very much.


Thanks,

DirkDingy

I have two weeks total time spent in B. A. , so am no expert but will give it a stab. I'd pick CTG or B. A..- a toss up for me.

1. For beauty I'd give B. A. The edge, although La Dolce Vita in Cartagena and the top clubs in Bogota (e. G. Casanova) will give any venue in B. A. A run for the money.

2. For me Cartagena was best for GFE and turning a pro into a multi-day date. However as far as pliable goes, B. A. Was best. Of my three outstanding "porn star" experiences in B. A. , though, one was a nonpro and one was Brazilian.

3. Cartagena and B. A. Are both excellent and would be well worth visiting even if there were no *****s. Bogota for me has been so so, but I've never had a chance to get out and see the city.

4. I don't think any of the cities has a price advantage for the chicas. Yeah, you're right, you can pay $200-$250 in Black. The one time I went there I translated for a fellow gringo who paid that for an hour with an absolute dog. I've never pulled a woman from Black or Madaho's, but have been with woman in B. A. As fine as you'll there or anywhere in CTG or BOG for US$100 and under. The private apartments in B. A. Are convenient and affordable.- better in my opinion than comparable options in BOG and CTG.

5. I'll defer to others. I'm on expense account in BOG, and have used primarily apartments in CTG and hotels in B. A. , so hard to compare. CTG and B. A. Appear to be fairly comparable in cost to me though.

6. I felt reasonably save in the neighborhoods I frequented in Cartagena and B. A. Bogota makes me nervous, and I take precautions, especially with taxis. Discos.- no idea.

7. No idea.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]Would you rather spend two weeks in Bog or CTG or BA?

I have my R&R comming up in 20 days want to know which place is better for:

1) Beauty of women
2) Pliability of women--BBBJ, GFE, turning a pro into a multi-day date
3) Non-mongering activities
4) Prices of girls--BA seems like $200-$250 for an 8-10 for a few hours from Blacks or Mahdallos while BOG or CTG seems like about 1/2 -2/3 of that price
5) Prices of nice accomodation--will be on my own dime as opposed to an expense account.
6) Safety of city and disco scene.
7) Airfare from Dubai/NYC. I see a BOG RT for about $1500 on AA while a trip to EZE is about $1900.

I've been to BOG and CTG about 6 years ago and liked it very much.

Thanks,

DirkDingy[/QUOTE]Well I know Colombia very well, and now have spent some time in BA and though I'm not expert, I know the basic scene there as well.

1. Both Colombia and BA have beautiful women. Hard to answer which are more beautiful. Depends a lot on your own taste.

I'd say BA had some absolute stunners, but in general, for my taste, the average Colombiana is prettier.

I made love to maybe the most beautiful girl ever in BA, and I met her in a small privado. But I had to do lots of searching to find her.

I DO NOT go to and pay the ridiculous prices at the high end clubs in either country, I hunt for the diamonds.

2. I would easily say the Colombiana is the best GFE. No contest.

Funny thing is, the 2 most loving chicas I met in BA, were raised in Colombia.

One was a Peruana, the other from Paraguay, but both raised in Caolombia.

3. Well, if you like the beach, Cartagena has a small, not so great beach, but has nice islands very nearby, easy to reach.

BA is a by far the nicest city. Great restaurants, music, etc.

4. Both countries have their high price venues and less expensive venues. I visited just to see, Madahos, Blacks, etc in BA. I'll never go back. For me ridiculous to pay those prices. For hard-core pros. Funny. But guys do go there and pay, I've seen it.

Of course Colombia has high price venues also. LDV in Cartagena can be expensive, but there are low end options as well.

I always say this. The absolute key to lower prices is your ability with chicas. Speaking spanish. Your personality.

I've seen it in BA, all cities in Colombia, and many other latin cities. What some dude pays a chica, I can get for much less. Because I make them laugh and feel good.

I'm no Don Juan, average looking, but I understand the key is in schmoozing the chica.

One of the best accomplishments of my life is learning and always perfecting my Spanish skills.

5-7. I'll defer these questions to other guys, I'm no expert in these areas.

My favorite country in the world by the way is Colombia. I'd choose it over Brazil, Argentina, etc.

I love chicas, I love the loving, sweet chicas, and Colombia seems to breed them.

Good luck!

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whomever

gents,

i am glad, that beside the ". how many girls i have fucked in colombia. " there is space for some serious discussion like this.

what is the most important in every culture when men and women concur? first: age second: looks

of course there a girls, who like to be with much older guys like father complex or who knows. otherwise why they prefer older guys over younger guys is the material status and probably loyalty. young, good looking and rich. that's what women desire is, colombia is no exception.

nonetheless the mayority of colombianas like to stay with gringos, from us or europe, anyway. why? because we are different! we are not better, nor more bad, we are just different! different in looks, behavior and settings. call us exotic, if you want so. summary: don't try to imitate colombians or brazilians or whomever. be yourself. it's not a panacea but i have still good success with that.

indeed, when ist comes to marriage, founding a family or similars normally everybody knows contrasts are not benefits.commonalities attract!

i would like to disagree, you pointed out the exact oposit of an european/american guy (if he is not a hardcore mormone, lol) versus a latin guy. it is exactly that. being a bit more modest, respectfull, "educated". than these crazy testosteron adicted " average latin " guys. i mean, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is still a minor delict, i have been in guatemala and heard that these giels veryoften got killed. to avoid any claims at the police afterwards. and believe it or not, the police cares a sh. t about these things. i have been in mexico. the same. i mean i am german, but that is so far away from "european" views that, there is a diffrence between latin/sa guys (and women) in order to europeans. i would recomand each german woman a week with such an latin lover. and each german man a week with a sweet latin chica. i supose the population problem in germany would be solved either, all german guys would leave the country or sa would have to stand a loss of some millions of their preciouse ladies. lol

to come to an end, i talked with several girls in sa and all (from guatemala, mexico, and costa rica) said the same. latin guys are quickly violent, lazy at home, with the years tending to drink to much, and do not care about the household at all. and i found that to be true, but thats my opinion about that.

viva los chicas,

yours,

c.

[QUOTE=Carnevalisticus]Whomever

Gents,

I am glad, that beside the ". How many girls I have fucked in Colombia. " 0there is space for some serious discussion like this.[/QUOTE]Choosing age over looks would depend on the motivation of the relationship - in my opinion. If the girl is looking for marriage and a family, an older man would likely be more attractive. Older men will generally be more mature, financially stable, and probably more family oriented (ie: they aren't partying every night like the younger guys). If the chick is looking for money and a good time, I would guess she would take the young guy any day. Motivation is the factor.

Colombian chicks that are working girls are a crap shoot when it comes to a relationship. A lot of them are afraid to even be seen with a gringo for fear that they'll be labeled a working girl (if they aren't already). Chances are as soon as you hit the airport, they have moved onto the next guy. It's not uncommon for them to host several guys at the same time. "Western Union" is certainly earning some money from the girls.

It's true that there is probably a big attraction to someone from a different culture. That's what attracts me. I'm not sure that alone is enough to sustain a relationship though. You still need to find some common ground you can work with: goals and desires.

The thing you didn't mention is that some of the girls will never leave the life of the working girl. They just simply like it. It's the better money, the attention from the guys, etc. Given a choice between working as a ho or taking the stable relationship/married life, they will keep working. I've already run into that. That's assuming they don't have a boyfriend or husband already.

David

The other side of the coin is, Colombian men are sensual and emotionally responsive to Colombian women in a way very few foreigners are, especially ones from non-Romance language speaking cultures, and ESPECIALLY ones who don't speak the language and bother to learn the local customs backwards and forwards. And they tend to have more priorities in common with Colombian women. In the short term, exotic wins hands down every time. In the long term, the waters are a tad muddy.

bdhabtz,

great report, one of the best i've seen on this site. though i'm sure you know from reading all these posts that the phrase "different folks for different folks definitely applies" here. you and i, however, seem to be tracking on several levels though, so i'll pass along some thoughts and others of like minds.

1. if you haven't done so already, start reading pua (pick up artist) info from guys like mystery and david deangelo. pick up a copy of the game by neil strauss. this will get you into a mind set of attraction theory and an a +b=c formula of picking up women and banging them. you are already have a systemic approach so that should naturally amp your game. just begin understanding the pua mind set and adapt because not all of those skills and technics are applicable to latin american chicas.

2. on these sites like latinamericancupid.com or colombiancupid.com, volume is key. you did right by working up a profile with pics that peek their attraction interest, but don't waste so much time emailing them canned text. just work something up snappy or ping them to see if they respond, which shows that they interested. i ping 15-20 good looking chica each day and get about a 20% response, that's low but over a 2 week period you have about 10 descent chicas from which you can start narrowing down the ones with real potential. in a month, that can be a list of 20-30 chicas.

also, fyi, those sites are full of gringos and old farts and your should know that it will be tough for you (as a latino/colombian looking male) to get the attention of hottest chicas because they are fishing for attractive white gringos under 30 with marriage potential. i think latino match.com may work better but i haven't used it as often. anyway, all those hot chicks are fielding their international options. i connected with a hot 18 yo from that site a few weeks ago and she said that on her first day of membership, she had about 50 emails and pings.

3. next step, get to phone conversation sooner. find a way to make cheap international calls and go from email/chat to cell phone asap. there is no better way to begin filtering chicks than through real voice conversation, but don't talk too much. just enough time to develop some attraction interest, distinguish yourself from the other guys online (who are distance and depend on email and chatting), and to bump them over till your next call as you bridge to the day you can meeting.

at this point, you have become the real deal, not some online penpal / romance potential. the reason why these chicas msn chat so fricken much is because that can afford the calls and minutes, so give them a 5-10 minute buzz if they are good looking enough. also, once you get them on the phone, that the best time to ask for recent pics.

4. okay, here are my thoughts on educated latinas without children. if they have attended university and have a descent career, they are often considered over the hill ( 25 y. o.), not attractive enough to land a latino bf with marriage potential, or they have adopted an independent/cultured attitude like the american women.

after examining my experience and approach with this issue for a few years now, i've come to the conclusion that i am most happiest with with young (<25) hot latinas who will screw my brains out, care for me with her traditional femininity, and in general, treat me like a king.-forget about class and education status that all social programming preferences. fyi, i am a professional latino male in his 40s, never married, no kids.

[quote=bdhabtz]its about midnight and i can't seem to get any sleep. i have spent the last hour reading different reports and i decided to add to the thread.

i see that some of the guys have used the different websites to try to line up girls that are non-pro, more cultured or anything else than the regular p4p. i have some great experiences with that and some bad ones. *one big thing to note you have to either be single or have a great amount of alone time since this is a time investment and its very hard to accomplish in less than 3 months.

a little background on who i am since i have been a member for a while but really not posted very much.

i was born in latin america but i grew up my whole life in the states, which creates a little dilemma. to everyone who knows me they would refer to me as hispanic because of my name and birth place but everyone i meet in latin american countries refers to me as a gringo because i never really lived in latin america and grew up in the states. my spanish is perfect but dated since i learned it at home and school yet i don't know the local idioms people are using.

in the last few years i really started to travel more to latin america and i have spent time in costa rica, dominican republic, mexico, peru, and colombia. usually with a gf and then solo or with a buddy to do some mongering.

ok, back to the website story. i was surfing the web and i ran across a site [url]www.latinamericancupid.com[/url] and decided to check it out. i had never used a and online dating site and decided what the hell lets see how this turns out.

i posted my profile, some good pics, riding motorcycles, pics from other cities, paris, london and then i worked on my profile. the gist of my message was that i wanted to meet women that i shared similarities and were interested in a friendship and more (pure bs, i just wanted some hot ass but obviously i could not put that)

the site lets you send winks, or emails since initially did not have a good plan i was all over the place and the responses were lame. specially since i was not getting any from the hottest girls.

i devised a new and created an email template (i spent some time really playing with the words so the women could dig it) that was personal enough but i could quickly adjust for each girls profile. i then created a list of all the women i wanted to meet and sent it out (when you are creating a list in the website you can use filters, i did no kids, age 21-35, college educated, very attractive to attractive looks and athletic body types). i called it the shotgun approach, blast it to everyone and see what happens.

initally i sent it out to about 50 women in different cities in colombia, i got back about 65-70% response rate. i then followed up with a second email asking them to send me a recent photo with the date stamp and i attached recent pics of me so they would get the point. this time i still had a response rate better than 50%. now i started to prioritize who i wanted to meet. i discarded cities i would not go to, and i focused on medellin, bogota, pereira, manizales and armenia.

after the first to emails came the chatting on msn, at this point you will realize that some are more interested than others and the list begins to get smaller. also once i started chatting with them the personalities come out and some are just not my type. finally i had a list of about 10 girls that i was in regular contact with and then i made my travel plans.

i have to tell you that i went to medellin in may of 2006, with a buddy of mine (born in the us but raised in venezuela, speaks english with a think accent and all, total opposite of my situation) and started to hook up with these girls. most of them i went out twice or three times before i got laid and all of them where from el poblado. with 3 i met the parents and 1 even took me to the private club her family is a member of.

i totally agree with some of the posts regarding the class system in colombia and i use it to my advantage. i know that there are some hot poor girls but i want a girl with some class, educated, and that has a good network of friends. mejor rosca en medellin. also the higher educated girls tend to not have kids, can afford the gym, have passports and many of them visas.

i will have to write a separate report on the ones that came over to the states to visit me.

the website has worked so well that usually before a trip to colombia i start up again 3 of 4 months before and go at it.

i will post some pics of the girls i met, but i have to block out the faces since they are regular girls and they deserve a little privacy.

i will be leaving for medellin in 2 days i have some other girls lined up for this trip. i think they will even be better than the ones from last time.

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[QUOTE=Tom Cruze]Great report, one of the best I've seen on this site. Though I'm sure you know from reading all these posts that the phrase "different folks for different folks definitely applies" here. You and I, however, seem to be tracking on several levels though, so I'll pass along some thoughts and others of like minds.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm missing the point, but why spend so much effort on dating web sites if you're traveling to the countries? If someone is experienced, they can pick up new girls (live and in person) in a matter of minutes in many cities. My idea of those sites is that they're for people that never intend to meet the girls, or at least not for a long time. I wouldn't want to share my girl with 1000 other guys exchanging emails with her too. After all, this is an international travel forum, right?

David

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